October 8, 2005

Google Reader - Beautiful, Needs Work

Michael Arrington

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Product: Google Reader
Launched: October 7, 2005

Google launched a web-based ajax RSS reader yesterday at Web2.0. The coverage saturated Memeorandum.

Unlike Bloglines, which uses frames to avoid page refreshes, Google Reader uses Ajax. The reader is visually stunning and at first glance appeared to be a contender. However, upon further review we’ve found what we consider to be some serious structural flaws.

The reader loads quickly and uses your stored gmail credentials to sign you in. Adding feeds is fairly easy via opml upload (which we did) or using the search bar. As you add feeds you have the option of adding tags (called “labels”). Individual posts are listed on the left - clicking on a post brings up the content in the view box on the right.

Google Reader is actually Google’s second RSS reader. See Google IG as well, which Google launched in late July. Unlike Google IG, which targets light RSS users who only read a few feeds, their new reader is targeted at those who want to move through a lot of feeds quickly.

What Google Reader Does Well

There are a lot of positive features.

The reader uses ajax quite effectively to avoid page refreshes and to create a great visual experience.

Feeds can be tagged, and individual posts can be kept unread and starred.

The search functionality is excellent, and adding feeds requires no knowledge of RSS, opml or XML. It’s all automatic. Search only pulls up feeds you aren’t already subscribed to.

What Google Reader Is Doing Wrong

As I mentioned above, Google Reader is targeting heavy RSS readers. The product isn’t useful, however, for moving through a large number of feeds efficiently.

Posts are listed in order of “relevance” (which doesn’t seem to actually sort things in any relevant way), or by date. I need posts to be grouped under the individual blog because I read some feeds first - Google Reader doesn’t allow me to do this and I am frustrated trying to find the authors I like to read the most. There is no search functionality within feeds already subscribed to, so there is no way to find this content.

The reader is slow. Paging down through posts results in a long and unacceptable delay. As a side note, importing my OPML list took about 10 minutes. Since this was a one-time cost, it’s not that big of a deal.

Since this is a web-based reader only, there is no syncronization.

Google uses ajax instead of frames. While frames is an old technology, readers using it allow for multiple scroll bars - this means you can keep the feed frames locked while scrolling through individual posts. This needs to be addressed.

There is no unsubscribe button for feeds.

Google Reader is optimized for Firefox. It isn’t working properly on other browsers yet.

Summary

Many of the feature limitations can be addressed, but Google Reader has a long way to go if it is going to seriously threaten existing heavy-duty RSS readers. Brad Hill also posts a lengthy review of Google Reader.

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  1. bloxor

    Bloxor is the best online aggregator ever!
    Keep your blogroll on the web
    Enjoy your favorite blogs everywhere
    And much more things to come
    Best of all, it is FREE!

  2. dusoft

    Actually, there is Unsubsrcibe in small dropdown menu above the article from feed listing - but unfortunately, it doesn’t work and Firefox display some Javascript error.

    Anyway, I could agree with all issues you mention - but I won’t be using it as I like to have RSS reader as a sidebar in Firefox. And this is the most important issue, Google Reader (being a web application) can’t address.

    Otherwise - I would wait with all the criticism - it’s still just beta.

  3. Will

    I have been trying bloxor but the spam at this and a couple of other sites REALLY turns me off.

    Re: Google. I love the tag featurers and its fast AJAX design, but its a bit too light weight at the minute. I have fooled around with about 20 RSS readers and I have a personal preference that turns me off many, including many peoples favorite: bloglines.

    Specifically, I like a 3rd window that allows the actual html web link of the article to appear without having to leave the reader. Google doesnt have this feature and given its design I can’t see it being added.

    Regards

  4. Srini

    I agree with Will. That will help me see all the posts even if the feed is partial without visiting each blog seperately. In fact, on the face of it, it might well be a killer feature that solves the pain of both the author and readers in partial feeds..

  5. Alexander Muse

    It does not take my full OPML file. It seems slow and error prone right now. I think it might be seeing a lot of usage - slowing it down. Oh, Mike since you missed most of the conference you should check out the video:

    http://texasvc.weblogswork.com/?p=279

  6. Michael Arrington

    I like the idea of a third pane too. Alex - you obviously don’t understand that the action at a conference always occurs in the hallways. :-)

  7. Razvan Antonescu

    well…in fact:

    - it has a refresh button to check feeds, Bloglines doesn’t
    - click subscriptions and click on blogs and get new posts (complicated when you have a large number of feeds i admit)
    - a comment before already said that it has unsubscribe :)

    What it must add is a search function within new and old posts. I think that they have the capacity to store feeds and that’s not an issue

    Overall an original G product. I am pretty happy with it

  8. O.J.

    I agree, I see a lot of potential coming out from this Google Reader, but it has a long way to go. Over the past week I’ve been using http://www.netvibes.com as my RSS Aggregator, I like the interface with this a bit better than Google’s, also I like how a particular entry is opened in a box that overlays the page but doesn’t open a new browser window. It doesn’t have fancy features like flagging/searching yet.

    Posted on TechCrunch: http://www.techcrunch.com/2005.....-homepage/

  9. Alexander Muse

    Mike - actually just kidding about missing the conference - the hallway track was great too - I kept trying to catch up with you - maybe next time… I did get to talk to Fred…

  10. Michael Arrington

    Alex, I know you were kidding. It’s a great video by the way.

  11. Vinu

    I have a quick Q first - how do I export the feeds from bloglines??

    I use flickr feeds a lot and bloglines does a good job of it. g reader is a lot slower!!

    Also all the lines in a post don’t come when i am reading - is this because of RSS or atom??

    I am a high end user in a way - i subscribe to 175 feeds - aroun 20 of them flickr. I also spend 70% of my time on the net using RSS.

    Hence will have to think twice before I move to G reader … I am not ready to put in the effort to do it manuall! but the ADVANTAGE of having a search engines & readers integrated as a service. This is defintely something Google has an advantage.

  12. Michael Arrington

    Vinu -

    “How Can I Export My Subscriptions?

    From the My Feeds page, click the Edit link at the top of the left panel. There will be a link to export your subscriptions in OPML format.”

    Once you see xml on your browser, just save as whatever.opml

  13. Jon

    I personally found it very disappointing.

    It’s clunky, slow, the UI makes no sense to me and it’s sorting and navigation makes it the most unintuitive RSS reader I’ve used.

    I’ll stick with Bloglines.

  14. David

    I agree. Disappointing. Slow is not the word. That I assume they can fix. The UI will take a lot of fixing. It’s utterly a mess. Not what I expect from Google. I just sat looking at it not understanding what it wanted me to do. I’ll stick with Bloglines.

  15. Kyle

    I wrote a quick critique of it on my blog. Overall, I like the direction Google is taking it, I would just like to see at least some of the following:

    - Dump the Home view. It’s pointless. Replace it with the Subscription view, and make the subscription data table more useful. I’d rather see a more data rich table, with the number of unread posts in each subscription, along with perhaps the number Starred posts and a link to display only the starred posts in each feed.

    - The subscription view, by default, use the all label, which is the same as the current Home view. The only problem with using the subscription view as your default view is that it takes up quite a bit of screen space, often pushing part of the current article below the fold on smaller resolutions. Allow us a -/+ button in the top right corner to minimize the subscription view. Infact, it might be nice if they allowed us an option to resize the subscription view on our own.

    I feel the above suggestions would be a great improvement over the current model. At least they seem to have improved the speed and crashing issues over the last couple of days.

    Oh, and if anyone can explain to me why the “New Subscription”s stay unread, it would relieve quite a bit of insanity that I’m currently experiencing. ;-)

  16. Ho John Lee

    I wrote up a few quick notes on my blog. I love keyboard navigation, but the relevance sorting (or lack of it) drove me nuts, since it didn’t have a clue about what to look for in my basket of 500 newly added feeds and no click-throughs.

    The user interface is pretty and “fun”, and I think I’m going to point some “new-to-feedreader” users at it, as it seems like it might be easier than Bloglines or Rojo for a mostly casual user.

    If they turn a revision based on user feedback, this could end up being pretty good, though. There are a lot of things I wish for in Bloglines, like better feed management (navigation, sorting), and useable search integration.

  17. GodsMoon

    I wrote a subscribe button for Google Reader in the form of a bookmarklet. Fell free to go use it.

    What I’d really like is an offline client that I could sync Google Reader with. That’d be really nice.

  18. Steven

    I just started playing around with google reader. It’s got a ways to go for sure, but I’ll bet this will set the standard in due course. I’d like to be able to save content. I suppose emailing it or printing it from webpages isn’t a bad solution. There’s always making pdfs. But I’d like to be able to save to a folder. This is one reason I’ve liked Feeddemon as a desktop solution for Windows.

  19. aka wombat

    Google Reader took me a few days to get used to (coming from FeedDemon) and is now my favorite rss reader of all time. I was concerned about not being able to pull up individual feeds without having to go to the Edit Subscriptions option, but I learned the magic of making secondary labels to create a tiny mix bag of my daily essentials and have that load up on my Personalized Google Home :)