Despite starting Blogger, Evan Williams rarely blogs. But yesterday, for the first time in several months, he decided to put the digital pen to the digital paper in order to lay out his thoughts for Twitter’s new Retweet functionality. It’s a great view into the mindset behind what is already becoming a controversial change.
Why is there so much controversy? The answer is simple — literally. When Twitter began, you could do one thing on it: Send a blurb about what you were doing in 140 characters or less. This led to an immediate outcry from a wide range of people who thought that it was just about the dumbest service in the world. Others saw the potential behind such a simple service, precisely because it was so simple, and history has proven time and time again that sometimes simple ideas can explode into the biggest ones.
As Twitter grew in size, its simplicity remained largely intact. While just about everyone had ideas for what features Twitter should add, Twitter stayed the course in its core simple vision. Instead, it decided to rely on both its user base (@replies, RTs, etc) and third-party developers to add functionality. In fact, at points, Twitter began removing features (auto-refreshing, IMing) because it simply could not scale with so much load on its servers.
While some might view this as a failure to innovate. I would argue that this adherence to simplicity is what brought Twitter to where it is today. We live in an age where feature-bloat reigns supreme. Far too many startups replace the word “better” with “more.” That is to say, rather than perfecting the product they have and maintaining a singular focus on what they want to accomplish, they keep adding new features either because rivals are doing them, or because users are suggesting them. This is rarely a good idea. One great feature beats a dozen half-assed ones any day of the week. Keep it simple, stupid.
That’s why the past several weeks have been so interesting for Twitter. With its scaling problems seemingly now solved and with enough funding in the bank to buy a small European country, Twitter finally gained the flexibility to address a terrifying question: What’s next?
Search
The answer actually started coming several months ago when Twitter finally wrapped Twitter Search into its core service. By all accounts, that has been a rousing success. Twitter Search is now perhaps the key way to get a pulse of what the web is thinking about at any given time. Microsoft, Google, and Yahoo have all recognized this, and all now either incorporate tweets into their results, or soon will.
The job is hardly done for Twitter in this regard. The success of search has led to a massive influx of spam, which Twitter now must combat in both the search results and the Trending Topic area. The solution for both, it seems, will eventually be a move to highlight tweet relevancy. Part of this will undoubtedly be based on user reputation (which will be controversial), another part is likely to be based on location (more on that in a bit).
Then there is the question of links. Sharing links is one of the key uses for Twitter, and the company has said in the past that it would like to create a way to better search those links. Twitter has run tests on and off to track clicks on links, but it remains unclear if their intention is still to incorporate links into search results in a way more similar to what the big search engines do. That could be a further off goal now since a few of its bigger third-party developers, like bit.ly and Tweetmeme are also working in that space.
Lists
But search was just the first major change to be implemented. These past several weeks have seen a second, and much larger round of changes. It’s been a phase that I’ll call Operation: Features.
The first of these new additions was Lists. Despite fears that spam would overrun it, or that it would simply be a new vanity benchmark, Lists seem to be a hit. They are proving to be great both used as filters, and for user/content discovery.
There is already a robust developer community swarming around Lists, to both add them to existing services, and create new ones around the functionality. That’s great news for Twitter because it reinvigorates their already strong developer ecosystem.
And, if you’ll allow me to go against my “simple” mantra for a second, it seems like Lists are a natural addition to Twitter just for the filtering capabilities alone. Any community that gets big enough absolutely needs a way to filter. Sure, you could argue that you can just do that by not following anyone that you absolutely do not want to see in your stream at all times, but if Twitter continues to grow and more people you want to follow continue to sign up, that’s simply not really a realistic proposition. Filters, in this case, Lists, are.
Geolocation
Another wave in Operation: Features will come shortly in the form of Geolocation. While the ability to add location information to your tweets will undoubtedly raise privacy concerns, it’s important to note that this feature is entirely opt-in. And while the usefulness of such a feature may not be immediately apparent to a lot of users, there are a ton of things Twitter and third-party developers can use this for to make the service more useful.
For example, as I alluded to above, imagine if you want to do a Twitter search query but want to tailor the results to a specific area. You might say that was possible before because of the location information in users’ profiles, but that is hardly real location information. I could say I’m in China, for example, and no one would know that I’m not. With geotagged tweets, a whole new layer of information about happenings in particular places is possible. And Twitter clearly knows this, as it has just released an API for it.
We’re also on the verge of seeing an explosion in interest in location-based services. Foursquare, Gowalla, Brightkite, Loopt, and Google are all already in the game. Facebook is likely to enter soon as well. With its Geolocation API, Twitter has the opportunity to become the go-to place to send your location information when you want to broadcast it widely (well, probably not from Facebook, given their little rivalry). Or, to put it a different way, this feature could allow Twitter to become the de-facto location social graph.
In terms of your social information, like it or not, location will eventually play an important role. Twitter has positioned itself well here.
Retweets
But here’s where things get interesting. So far, none of these stated new features have or will significantly alter Twitter’s core simplicity. Each of these is an add-on. They are either shoved to the side (literally, the right-hand side of the page with Search and Lists), or are opt-in (Geolocation). And with third-party apps, these also do not alter the core experience in any meaningful way. But Retweets are an entirely different story.
As we’ve seen with a limited roll-out over the past few weeks, Retweets alter not only Twitter’s main stream, but also users’ actions. That is why Evan Williams wrote his blog post. And that is why we’re already seeing backlash.
As a general rule, users dislike change to the services they’ve grown accustomed to. But that dislike could be amplified on Twitter for two reasons. 1) They haven’t made such a significant change to the core functionality before. 2) Twitter is an extremely simple service that just got a little more complicated.
As Williams notes in his post, users have been asking for a Retweet button ever since it entered the lexicon of Twitter organically, rising out of the collective. But rather than give everyone a simple RT button that might work like the current Reply button (pre-populating the tweet field), Twitter decided it was time to use this new function to alter the user experience.
There are two key things that people don’t like about this: 1) It potentially inserts a user you don’t follow into your tweet stream. 2) You can no longer comment on the retweet.
Strangers In My Stream
To the first point, Twitter is doing more or less what Yammer CEO David Sacks laid out in a guest post on TechCrunch several months ago (which Williams acknowledges). On one level it’s actually not really different at all from what the current retweet mechanism is doing — which is, putting the words of someone you may or may not follow into your stream. The difference, of course, is the icon. Previously, it was the icon of the user doing the retweeting, now it’s of the original author. This can be unsettling since it alters a previous constant: Twitter’s main stream.
Already, we’ve seen users completely and utterly confused as to what is going on with these new retweets. In one high-profile example, Mallory from Family Ties believed users were actually paying to insert themselves in her stream.
As I wrote at the time, this could well be a harbinger of what’s to come. It doesn’t matter if the actual tweet information is fundamentally the same, what matters is the user perception. Users were used to an unwavering constant: That their stream would contain only tweets (and again, their pictures) from those people that they follow. By breaking that, Twitter will have users questioning the integrity of their stream.
Eventually, most users will get used to this. And remember, from Twitter’s perspective, they believe that there are still many more users who have yet to sign up for the service than those who already have and now have to learn something new. And there is also a way to turn off these new-style Retweets from showing up in your stream, but only on a user-by-user basis. It may be wise for Twitter to introduce a universal off-switch, even if that’s silly and against what it’s trying to do, just to give users comfort.
I Want My Say
The second point may actually be even more problematic for Twitter: Users want a way to include their own statements in Retweets. The new way of doing this does not allow for that. The fundamental principle behind this should be obvious: If you share something, that’s a natural desire to explain why you’re sharing it. That’s what a lot of people do with current retweets. Even if they just add “LOL,” it shows that they think the tweet they’re sharing is funny.
We’re also vain. Sometimes retweeting something is more about getting your say in rather than simply highlighting what someone else has said. Or, maybe you’re even retweeting something because you disagree with it. With the new Retweets, you can’t let that be known.
But Williams says that they’ve thought about this commenting functionality for the new Retweets, and notes it could come down the line as an add-on. I suspect Twitter may have to do something like that if it’s serious about getting everyone to use the new Retweets because otherwise, people are just going to keep doing it the old way.
Two Roads Diverge
And that’s another important thing to note in all of this: Nothing is stopping you from retweeting the old way. But that raises a different problem. Because of that, we’re likely to see a bifurcation of the Retweet. Some will do it the new way, some will do it the old way. In fact, it seems perfectly plausible that people may start to use the two types of Retweets for different reasons.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with that except that it introduces confusion. And again, when you’ve been sold as a simple service, that’s the last thing you want. Perhaps it would have been a better idea to call this something other than “Retweet,” even though that’s what it is. Maybe you call it “Highlight” and see if users (who again, invented the retweet) switch to using it more than manual RTs.
This would seem to go against my belief of tacking-on new features, but as Williams lays out, clearly Twitter believes this new Retweet structure will fundamentally change Twitter for the better. In that case, a new feature is absolutely worth it because it’s extending core concepts (discovery, trackable data), while cleaning up problems (noise, attribution).
Box Of Chocolates
In fact, none of this is to say that the Retweet change is the wrong call to make. When I first read about it, before even seeing it in action, it made perfect sense to me as a concept. But what I am pointing out is that this is a risky call to make. Actually, I would say that it’s the riskiest call Twitter has made yet.
Remember, this is Twitter taking a component that was invented by the users, and altering it. While Twitter has adopted user-created elements in the past such as @replies and hashtags, they didn’t actually alter anything about what the users had created, they simply enhanced them. (And when they did sort of alter things, by removing the option to see @replies for people you don’t follow, there was a mini-shitstorm.) They’re enhancing Retweets too, to an extent, but they’re also changing the idea and making it more complicated. It might ultimately pay off, but again, it’s risky.
But it would seem that Twitter is doing this at an opportune time. As has been discussed a lot in the past few months, Twitter’s growth has been slowing. If everything were still growing like gangbusters, it would probably be ill-advised to change core functionality. But in a slow period, it’s easier to justify risks, and all of these changes are things that could actually help kickstart growth again.
Since Twitter has started Operation: Features, I find myself visiting the actual site all the time now, whereas before I would often use a third-party client. More importantly, I find my overall usage has kicked up a notch. That’s the key. Twitter has known about the problem where people would sign up and then not continue using it, all of these things should help. (Maybe none more than a small new feature: That damn new tweet notification box, which has me refreshing every few seconds.)
But here’s the key question that will play out over the next few months: If a service is predicated on being as simple as possible, and then moves away from that, even just a little, will it still be the same service? Will it maintain its appeal with its rabid user base? Will it pick up new users?
Facebook changes all the time, but it’s ultimately okay because Facebook has always been a mess of things going on. They’ve improved some messes, made others worse, but they didn’t go from simple to that mess. Facebook was not built for one purpose, Twitter was.
Is Twitter still Twitter when the features roll in? You never know what you’re gonna get.
[pictures: Paramount Pictures]
But nobody’s forcing Twitter users to use the RT button. They can just copy and paste like they always have.
yes, that’s in there. paragraph 40 or so (not that I really expected anyway to get that far)
Ah. Didn’t catch that.
No wonder. Not that the article is bad. But it’s sooo long. Writing about simplicity, a more focused approach should have done. People are able to discuss the pros and cons of the Kyoto treaty in less words than this.
But then, maybe that was the point: Showing how things veer off when you no longer stick to your simple rule…
Far too many startups replace the word “better” with “more.”
that is right on…
and not just for startups this begins to infiltrate into regular companies
(especially during a recession when sales are down… they feel like they are doing something wrong so they add stuff ‘features’ – usually crap).
How does that apply here? Twitter isn’t adding features, they are improving (or attempting to improve) on current usage patterns.
how many searches does twitter handle a day? anyone know? is it 10 thousand or 10 million? i just don’t understand the hype over search, who would want to search tweets and why?
I could not resist responding to your comment that searching tweets might not be very interesting for users. There are several search engines – big and small – that now provide ways to search tweets. In particular, I recommend you try TipTop at http://FeelTipTop.com which is the only semantic search engine that searches tweets. You can see there in real time the sentiment associated with anything in the world that people are talking about.
to know what’s going on *right now* … for instance, there were a lot of helicopters flying around in my area one day, so i searched on twitter and discovered that it was because a TV show was being filmed.
Are you serious on why it wouldn’t be important? It is single handly the most up to date way to search anything. It also allows someone to get input very quickly and very easily from multiple sources that are up to date. As Twitter incorporates all these features into one you will see just how great, easy, and powerful Twitters search is.
Don’t mess with the integrity of the stream! Retweets are forking—the tragedy.
MG, can you explain to me why are pictures #1, 2 and 6 there?
what i’m wondering here is why you don’t want me to explain #3, #4, and #5?
haha, me too.
Companies spend so much time trying to sell value added they break the things we really enjoy or add things we don’t need simply to get more money in some way.
Think about bundled network services. We don’t need them and at some point people are going to get smarter and realize we already have the ability to watch tv if we have internet, and phone should be free, as it practically is already so that we keep paying for extra seems a little excessive.
The same can be said for twitter. We don’t need all the extra services, and in fact twitter probably doesn’t need to do more than support what it already has created. Let the other services do more. The services like tweetdeck and socialscope. They can add in more functions. Twitter can just sit back. Assuming they ever quite figure out the money thing, that is ;o)
I find the amount of websites to make twitter to do so many things to be too complex.
I’d much rather twitter add features than have them offered peace-meal by 5 sites for each possible feature. But that’s me.
How long has Arrington been a stakeholder?
Yawn. More Droid, less Twitter. Droid apparently is already making money.
Twitter already lost. They are not going to grow again. They appeal to who they appeal to and that’s it.
Ok you win one internets for using Forest Gump. MG Siegler, I love you.
thank ya.
But you quoted the wrong line from the movie – I think you really wanted
“Stupid is as stupid does”
That about sums up my entire feelings about Twitter. Now geolocation is an interesting (and very frightening) twist.
i’m aware of that, i tailored it to my needs
Grammar police: “layout” is actually a noun. Lay out is what you’re looking for.
Actually it’s both, as you could have checked in about 5 seconds, before posting. For example:
http://dictiona...m/browse/layout
Umm. And if you go back to check your own link, you’ll find that “layout” is only listed as a noun (as expected) while “spread” is listed as both noun and verb (obviously).
In fact, that same page refers to “lay out” being the verb.
Better luck next time, Sherlock.
Wholly shit. You wrote all that about some stupid chat system that allows people to send 140 character long messages to one another. You ever wonder why 140 and not say 256 or some more logical power of two? Imagine a brilliant engineer wearing his thinking cap and thinking about the next big thing: “Dude! I know, i’m going to make this kick ass web site where you can send a message to another user! Shit, what should I call it? ICQ2? No, that’s too dumb. iAIM ? Hello no, that’s not unique enough. I know I’ll call it Twitter!”. To which the other brilliant guy said, “But how will you differentiate yourself from all other chat networks?”. “Dude, we can set a limit on the size of messages! Let’s pick something cool and unique like 140″.
on a more serious note. Could you really help us understand how Twitter manages to keep its users when there are sites like Facebook which does everything twitter does so much better. I don’t think it’s simplicity. It’s more like a cult thing that people who don’t use Twitter don’t get.
nope, didn’t wholly write it. to answer your question though, they really are used currently for two different purposes, that may merge more in the future, we’ll see.
It’s 140 because of punched cards, which originally came from Victorian looms, then were adopted for use with early calculators…
This IBM card format, designed in 1928, had rectangular holes, 80 columns
http://en.wikip...ki/Punched_card
SMS was designed to be 160 characters because twice 80 seemed about right.
http://en.wikip...ia.org/wiki/SMS
Twitter reserved 20 for address information, leaving 140.
http://en.wikip...rg/wiki/Twitter
So blame those Victorians.
it’s designed around sms, which has a 160 character limit. great rant.
Correct it is for sending SMS messages which is what Twitter was originally designed to do. SMS messages can carry 160 characters at a time. So Twitted limited to 140 to allow 20 characters for a user name in the sms message.
I can’t speak for others, but for me, Facebook is for people I actually know (and the service requires that we both confirm that before we can ‘talk’).
Meanwhile Twitter can be used to ‘talk’ with people that I don’t actually know (but probably want to)…and at the same time, on Twitter, just because I find you interesting doesn’t mean you are required to also find me interesting (ie. I can care what you have to say and you are not forced to care back about what I say – and since we probably don’t really know each other, there’s no hurt feelings either way).
I think the blur currently comes in on the ‘announce’ vs. ‘read’ view…I only post to twitter (and then an app automatically posts the same thing to facebook for me)…because generally I want to announce to both the people I know and don’t know about the same things/topics (and then the conversations go in their own directions within each service).
Yes, you are correct, your post is too long, you should just twitter your post, like a postcard. Cause I just skimmed 75% of.
*Sigh*
People seem to have the attention spans of rodents nowadays.
sad. but true.
You need to look on the bright side of it: The instant someone says “too long, didn’t read” or the equivalent, you instantly know the person is so stupid you can dismiss their opinion entirely.
impressive write up, mg.
thanks
The best part about this is that “Here’s where things get interesting” comes three Forrest Gump pictures into the post.
+1
all about the build up.
Good write up MG. I agree completely.
The new official retweet functionality is good in theory, but your two points about what sucks are spot on – I can’t comment on the retweet I’m posting, which I almost always do, and who the hell is this random person in my stream? I hate that. I prefer knowing who retweeted it up front with their name, rather than the original author’s name.
Ev’s post laid out a lot of good points for the reasoning behind everything but it’s these two points that drive me nuts. I will not use the new retweet functionality until I can at least comment on the retweet. The random person in my stream kinda sucks but it’s not as big a deal.
“digital pen to the digital paper” is not a clever expression. sorry.
Hi MG,
Just a nitpick, and nothing serious, but when referring to “retweet” you used the word “lexicon.” The lexicon is the total sum of the words in our heads, not an individual word. So, if saying “word” doesn’t satisfying your flair for writing, you could use “lexeme,” though there is still a bit of debate within the linguistic community about whether words or lexemes really exist, and if so what they are, so perhaps it’s just best to avoid the ling jargon in this circumstance. I don’t want this to come off as rude since I thought the article was great and enjoy your writing.
Best!
no worries, yes, i meant entering the lexicon of twitter will clean that up, thanks.
I am assuming you can’t edit the tweet when retweeting is because you ruin the integrity of the original tweet. Imagine if you retweeted what Lance Armstrong wrote and changed what he said?
no, you can’t.
Twitter is not a business, It’s a social experiment!
When Twitter first appeared on the scene I thought it was the dumbest thing I’d ever seen obtain VC money. It was just a rip off of the Facebook status update with everything else about FB stripped off.
A year or so later I was using Twitter quite regularly because of that stripped down-ness. It was simple and fast.
Now we’re seeing Twitter become more Facebook-ish, Facebook becoming more Twitter-sish, and Google and Bing becoming more of everything. It’s beginning to look like a mess out there.
Didn’t read it all. But I think they can make a link in that RT with all the people that use it. An example could be google reader, where you have “10 people like this”, you click on it and shows who liked it. Same can be with RT too….i think
first, thanks for admitting you didn’t read it all
second, they sort of do that though it’s not expandable in the main stream right now (but is in the retweet area)
I don’t understand people who confess to not reading the whole article then try to weigh in with uninformed commentary.
They pulled this from my account almost as quickly as they enabled it (literally, it was in effect yesterday but today it’s completely vanished) so I’m wondering if the issues have forced a last minute rethink causing them to pull it for retooling.
nah, just bug fixes. hopefully back tomorrow.
Can you write a longer article next time? One that’s even less interesting, breaks less news, and makes more obvious points? Thanks!
not sure. i’ll try.
I really didn’t think this new feature was any big deal until I read every other blog discussing this.
By the way, why is Forrest Gump here in this article?
dunno, he snuck in. he does that.
Forest have invested in Apple back then, are you sure you are not on Apple payroll?
Too long.There should be 140 char limit on posts as well.
totally.
MG, Thanks for a informative story.
I believe that the new Retweet feature is not what Retweet, as a cultural construct, has evolved to be. It is something different, a “Relay” maybe, and should sit side by side with the ReTweet but not try to replace it nor fight for mindspace. This has added confusion where non needs to be.
Twitter must have known that this would be controversial and must have strong business reasons for architecting this feature this way and calling it Retweet. I would venture to guess that this has to do with the search deals with Google and Bing, for surely this new feature adds considerable value to search and twitter likely wants to convert as many people as possible to using the new “retweet” to deliver value to their search partners.
I hope you can correct me and tell me I am dead wrong but it seem all to obvious.
Twitter should evolve and grow and add rich features.
You make some very good points here on why this is a risky implementation for Twitter, but I do think that Ev addressed many of these issues in his post.
Twitter isn’t actually changing much in regards to current RT usage, it is only making it more clear for people who opt to use the new system. The consumption of RTs is going to be greatly improved now that you can actually see clearly who the original author is and you don’t have to see it cloned hundreds of times in your stream.
The only major downside as I see it is that this implementation doesn’t support annotations, but there is really no reason why having to create a new tweet to add your commentary is a bad thing.
Many people have been using (via @username) when commentating on another tweet (or a link from another tweet) in place of RT for a while now, and this just reinforces that mentality.
It makes more sense to me, but clearly not everyone is on board yet with that view of retweets and it’s going to take some upheaval to get everyone to adjust.
It’ll be interesting to see how well Twitter can hold to their guns on this though if the community continues to resist.
Anyway, I’ve outlined my thoughts on the matter in more detail on my blog if anyone is interested: http://transien...er-got-it-right
I am happy they continue to experiment, seemingly without anxiety!
Seeing how hard you guys think about something as banal and stupid as retweeting makes me grateful I didn’t grow up to be a tech blogger. Also you can stop linking to your KISS article now, we’ve seen it probably four hundred times.
MG, fantastic writing on this piece. I read every last word. Equal parts informative, suspenseful and funny.
Speaking of Twitter, it looks like they took off the “in reply to” link in the timestamp and people are freaking out.
i just noticed that myself. weird, i’m sure it’s just a bug.
I’ve honestly never understood the obsession with retweets, I could understand if it was a different set of people every time but there are users who just retweet and it makes no sense. Twitter is about you, the person, okay so links are a part of that but when a persons entire stream is “RT @TECHCRUNCH article info here” it gets tiresome.
I’ve never got the obsession for “retweeting”, If I find an interesting link I’ll say “good article on x ” or “This is awesome! ” I won’t send out “RT @creator ” and it really gets to me when the majority of twitter do this.
Nothing against arrington, but he’s awful for it; http://twitter.com/arrington. I do think he’s an exception as the majority of the articles are his, but I followed him for HIS updates not to receive article updates that I already get from @techcrunch. I hope to god the new retweet functionality stops this, my stream is 80% retweets and it sucks.
I found myself wondering on TechCrunch this evening to read about this new ReTweet phenomenon. Should be interesting.
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Hi SR,
it sounds like you are rewteeting but are totally stripping out who said it in the first place. That’s a shame as it does not give any credit to the source of the information – this is why retweeting came about in the first place.
I agree that some people retweet too much but different people use Twitter in different ways. You can always unfollow.
I thought the above article was well written and well thought out, as what @EV’s blog post.
My opinion is that codifying Retweet is essential as there is value in being able to accurately track the viral spread of content. However, my biggest concern is the lack of comments – this make retweet slightly too “clinical”.
Joel
@joel_hughes
Why does the origin of the source matter? It’s unnecessary information. Sure if it’s a quote then add “by @name” but if it’s a link why does the person who originally posted it matter? I post links because I think they’ll be interesting, not because I want everyone to see my name. Seeing “RT @name RT @name RT @name LOL THIS IS AWESOME!! http://bit.ly/sffds” is awful and does nothing, I don’t care who originally posted a link, odds are they got it from someone else.
Ok, here’s an example…
If I followed you and you occasionally RT’d tweets by someone I wasn’t following then I might be tempted to check that person out and I may even follow that person myself.
If you remove them from the message then you block my ability to connect and network with them.
The message AND the messenger are important.
See what I mean?
I am assuming you can’t edit the tweet when retweeting is because you ruin the integrity of the original tweet….its ReTweet phenomenon. Should be interesting.
Yup. By maintaining the integrity of the tweet AND proving a core API mechanism for tracking retweets), this gives apps and business a fantastic method of virally tracking content. Perhaps EV etc are aware that they need to provide (paying?) business with tools to show accountability of their Twitter efforts?
Joel
It’s a shame that back when they had the “mallory” response they did not learn from it. It seem that the functionality is exactly the same and the response is the same too.
I had Ashton Kutcher (aplusk) show up in my stream when the feature was turned on for my account and the first thing I said was: “What the eff is he doing there?”
While technicallay, aplusk didn’t ever write into my stream, and actually one of the people that I follow put him there, the visual representation was such that I could not easily tell why he was there.
Ev, in his blog post mentions that this is a better representation of the actual authority behind the tweet. I disagree…
Why? – I don’t care that *ashton* said it. I care that *my friend* thought I should hear it. The redesign of RT hides my friend and raises ashton. It’s a bad idea.
Oddly enough, this is one of the golden rules of social media and I’m surprised that even though they’ve invented one of the largest social sites ever, Twitter does not seem to “get” that.
yup – I’d tend to agree here but, as EV say’s in his post, Ashton would have popped up in your stream anyway if your friend RT’d (well, his message would).
Personally I would like the option (e.g. in settings) of NOT showing the avatar of the original tweeter but of the person I KNOW who RT’d it (but with the option of drilling down into the tweet and exploring the ReTweet chain if I like).
Joel
What the!?!
So if someone uses this feature to ReTweet then I will have no way of telling within my stream who did this? I instead in the case of Ashton Kutcher (aplusk) will see his Tweet pop in with no reference to who RT it or the slight bit of visual context to this? Not sure that is really helpful as it only tells me “one of the people I’m following” RT something. I give more weight and have more interest based on who did the RT in various instances and topics.
It would be highly important if there was something beyond what I’ve seen to be able to help visually at glance tell the RT’s from the regular T’s and as well at least text somewhere with the user handle of who did the RT.
Perhaps an alternate would be a RT stream similar to buzz stream on Facebook which would weight based on RT and who had done it with expandable “show more that ReTweeted.”
As it is if its random tweets showing up it will feel more like a pop up ad. This “Mystery ReTweet Theater” design of it, if this is what it turns out to be makes a game of “guess who did the RT” fun for about 1 second and useful for just as much. Not to knock the overall effort but they are a few wrinkles away from making it work. As it is, I see adoption few and far between with majority sticking to the old fashioned way. I’m glad they are on the path to do this but sounds like they should have made version 2.0 the first release and skipped this 1.0 Frankenstein version of it as its more of that Mel Brooks Frankenstein than Mr. Gump running around America in Nike shoes.
In the time stamp you’ll have a “retweeted by @username” link
Hi Blake,
I think either/all of the following will happen:
1) Twitter will give us a “settings” opportunity to override this “ReTweet” avatar behaviour.
2) Your Twitter client of choice will give you that ability (it’s programmatically not complex)
3) For ardent web lovers perhaps a greasemonkey script will exist.
Either way I think this is a solvable problem. (Certainly more so than the comments issue)
Joel
BliZzarD571 and Joel Hughes. Thanks for the further notes. I saw some Tweets pop in earlier this week from people I wasn’t following and it seemed someone had used the ReTweet feature but I couldn’t tell who or why and mannn was it initially confusing.
Joel – If 3rd party clients utilize this more like you are saying that would be great.
Great post and I agree with many of the points that are raised here! I also feel that users will adopt both methods of retweeting what they feel adds relevance!
Although the Twitter team will listen to feedback they’re not known to reverse any changes applied to the service. I really like your suggestion surrounding the notes on retweets as that would be a great addition!!
2witter has had this feature called “favorites” for years – why don’t they extend upon that? In comparision, FriendFeed, and its new owner, Facebook, have a “like” button on every post, which seems terribly similar to the new retweet function on Twitter. It seems like Twitter has had a similar feature for quite some time – why build a whole new API and UI?
Nice writing style, very informative too, I learned a lot about Twitter from this article,
thank you.
Very thorough analysis, you sum up the issue well. Personally, I normally add a comment (as a P.S., not in rebuttal) so I can’t see myself using this new tool at all. This is definitely a solution to a nonexistent problem.
But, as some have told me, there is an ongoing pressure to have measurable features in Twitter and if you’re concerned about how you “rank” (which doesn’t seem the object to me in a SOCIAL network), I can see that this new feature would appeal to those who like to keep score.
I just posted an article on the retweet feature, titled “The Anatomy of a Retweet” at: http://digg.com/u1GAMK
I would like to quote from the article:
“While a RT is definitely an appreciation of good content it is also an acknowledgment of tweeps who find and share good content. More often than not it is a relationship building tool and a valuable way of discussing the tweet being shared. Any attempt to make the retweet predominantly content focused is going to remove the very important social element from the retweets. I understand that twitter is taking its mission of becoming a leading content search provider very seriously, but it should maintain the fine balance between content and social networking.
Ideally, twitter should have come up with a variant of RT and called it DRT (for Direct RT). This would have achieved both the objectives — providing a feature that will help it in the long run, and also giving tweeps a choice to retweet either the content or the tweeter they admire. I wish the third party app providers don’t make the same mistake and retain the RT as it exists right now, and provide the twitter retweet as an additional feature.”
wow! you might some great common sense points there
You can’t buy a “small European” country for $155M, not even in this crappy economy. I tired to no avail. Maybe an African country? Will let you know. G
I read the whole thing
Great post! The internet has become increasingly bloated with all things. Something tells me that we will soon experience a season of simplicity. Although mounting features typically result in a poor user experience, Twitter has to find a way to walk the line. Twitter’s strengh and growth has always been in its API. In fact, my guess would be that most ppl (twitter talk) tweet while mobile.
The problem Twitter has is that a large proportion of its userbase (at least, the loud portion thereof)
A) Are obsessed with having meta-conversations, so will discuss changes to the service endlessly.
B) Are egotists who are obsessed with the fact that they ‘own’ twitter and so will nitpick preciously about every little change to the service. This is the same part of the userbase that thinks changing their twitter icon colour will result in real changes in the world.