Gotta love this advertisement from Oracle, directed at current Sun Microsystems customers (and now rival IBM), stating its intentions with SPARC and Solaris before the monster acquisition is even a done deal. It’s a full-page ad that appeared in the European edition of the Wall Street Journal today, and you can find it online on the Oracle website as well.
However, as Matt Asay noted earlier, no mention of MySQL in the ad.
(Thanks to @Toon for the tip)
Excellent. I love when companies this large are this open and up front about their plans. Oracle, I look forward to your increased performance.
Let’s just hope virtualbox and open office don’t get killed in the process.
if you like to believe everything you read.
SUN investment in Solaris in the past years has been near 0, so, 1 buck would be an investment in Solaris.
SUN is in a deep depression, loosing money, loosing market share, loosing confidence and isn’t competitive anymore and Oracle has an urge for not loosing more customers from SUN.
SUN isn’t investing any money in research or developing SPARC platform. They already kill there last R&D on the Rock processor. I don’t really see any chance for SPARC platform in the near feature.
so, anything that Oracle can do to save some market share and clients that SUN still has it would be good for all the money Oracle is throwing away
I would like to see what happens if the EU doesn’t approve this acquisition.
Everything that you assert in your comment is completly false. R&D at Sun is alive and healthy. Go back to sleep, because your input is only valid in your dreams.
LOL…
If Larry Ellison spends just $1 more and 1 hr per day on SPARC and Solaris than Sun spends today (which the world knows is ZERO), then he has met his first two objectives in the ad. Achieving Objective #4 would be doable only if Ellison can work some magic to make #3 work, which seems highly improbable given the following situations Oracle has to deal with:
1) No follow on for SPARC by SUN, who killed their ROCK for being zilch on performance. ROCK was supposed to be their star processor to make SPARC live up to the hype created
2) As a result, SPARC performance have been utterly poor
3) Currently there is huge confusion on their offerings with current HP DB Server offering
4) Customers fear having all eggs in Larry’s basket
5) Most critical, the future of MySQL, and EU’s views on it!
6) Among others…
So mere claims and counter claims do not serve any purpose, and at best will succeed in fooling a few people here and a few there… Who actually is sleeping will be revealed in a matter of days only now!
Is MySQL really that big of a deal anymore? My understanding was that these days, Postgres has become the database of choice for the “open source” community.
You wish that was the case.
No, that *is the case*
orly?
Examples or it didnt happen
um…. you are wrong.
Erh, I have yet to see where that is the case, but I do know that I have more and more customers using postgres. I have personally preferred postgres since 6.x but that doesn’t mean a whole lot
I hate MySQL, but I have to work on it so whatcha gonna do.
It would be curious to see what happens with MySQL + Postgres essentially being owned by the same company. I could see a spinoff happen.
Them fighting words!
Is postgresql better than MySQL overall? I mean does it provide the awesome PHP-MySQL like integration with PHP too?
ummm…. donno ch**ch
Uhh, what integration? There is no special integration in MySQL that doesn’t exist for every other database thats of reasonable popularity…
Larry Ellison is trying to clone himself. Double the crazy double the fun.
Did someone ask if MySQL was a big deal anymore?
Err.. mysql anyone?
Ummm, let me think about that for a sec… is MySQL still a big deal? Well, it’s still the DB of choice for PHP developers. And let’s look at how popular PHP is compared to all of the other languages: http://www.tiob...tpci/index.html. Looks to me like it’s pretty high up there
Also, you’ve just got to love how competitive Ellison still is. It’s not often that we see stuff that takes it head-on like this in the mass media.
There is no competition between mysql and oracle. Long before the sun aquisition, oracle had already aquired the valuable portion of mysql, its transactional db engine innodb. Oracle has long since conquered mysql.
Should be fun to watch the sparcs fly.
*groan*
It’s just a good thing that Oracle doesn’t turn the Sun off, or the world would get very, very dark.
Awesome. The Ellison is always dramatic.
http://www.wiki...L_vs_PostgreSQL
I started like most with MySQL but as the complexity of my projects started to increase I was forced into PgSQL which I now consider superior by a long way. Besides PgSQL has not become encumbered with all this Oracle FUD. And in case you are wondering, YES I have a pet hate for Oracle and all they represent.
Dear Sun Customers,
Remember all your cheap IT stuff what was made possible by the ease of developing with MySQL instead of the buggy, hard to use Oracle stuff? We want you to pay for the latter instead.
My problem with Oracle isn’t that it plans to spend a lot of money on HW: my problem is that their own-made softwares have sometimes more bugs than line of code. OK, they bought BEA, and their own webportal solutions disappeared in a year completely for a reason.
I’ve used Oracle 9i, which had an own opinion of SQL, and by opinion, I mean SQL 99 compliant code which ran on a lot of other databases – tested: MSSQL, postgresql, mysql – but it did not on Oracle. (It was a simple group by with a subselect.)
We said back then: this was the best advertisenment possible for postgresql.
BTW, CMS-es are still nearly all mysql-only. Take for example: wordpress. Remember what blog software does TechCrunch use?:)
Yeah, cms systems are a bummer. I had to find one that would support Oracle just recently… That wasn’t easy.
I ended up settling on dotcms. So far I’m very happy with it, dotcms is awesome.
Oh Snap
Sounds more like a advertisement aimed at the FTC than Sun customers….
Dear Sun Customers,
1. We will spend more on more so you spend more with us and not them!
2. We will continue to purchase more and tell you it’s tightly coupled and integrated because everything has the ‘Oracle’ logo on it, but in reality, you will spend more with us trying to fix our bugs for us!
3. We will continue to support MySQL until we work out how to call it Oracle lite, and charge you for using it.
4. We will continue to ‘acquire’ customers rather than build something worthy of you purchasing, then jack the support costs up!
5. Oh, and it won’t be long, till we have the first ‘Sparc/OracleDB’ cloud wooo aahhhhh not another cloud….(geez im over the cloud crap)
Appreciate the bold acceptance by a competitor to tell the world that “IBM” is “no.1″ in hardware business.
ha ha ha!! Completely agree… Larry really let down his guard this time!!
Business translation
1) Spending more money on SPARC:
Your maintenance invoice will increase instantly
2) Spening more money on SOLARIS
Your maintenance invoice will increase instantly
3) Twice as many hardware specialisits Selling and Servicing
More annoying cold telephone calls from Orcale SUN sales people on a commission.
Instead of online or remote assistance, they will come to your facility in order to invoice more
4) Dramitically improve SUN’s hardware performance for ORACLE software
Great if you run ORACLE software or database. Maybe not so great if you run a different software brand.
Well… How much SUN spending on SPARC development NOW? Zero or about that. Oracle will spend more? WOW!
HA HA HA! Agree!
I was evaluating hardware for SAP and the other two competitors of SUN mentioned that the Sun is already set.
Well it’s not. The SUN has risen and will shine bright.
Larry Ellison must be happy indeed!