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		<title>By: The Machine is Just Hype. &#124; Salacious Sound</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-3114005</link>
		<dc:creator>The Machine is Just Hype. &#124; Salacious Sound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] greater influence based on their number of followers. This makes it susceptible to the influence of those with a large twitter following. One tweet by Shaq and you are at the top of the charts? Quick, someone tell Shaq he can revive his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] greater influence based on their number of followers. This makes it susceptible to the influence of those with a large twitter following. One tweet by Shaq and you are at the top of the charts? Quick, someone tell Shaq he can revive his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Live - Ben Walker - The Twitter Song - Musikvideo und Lyrics &#124; Favoritentips</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2873129</link>
		<dc:creator>Live - Ben Walker - The Twitter Song - Musikvideo und Lyrics &#124; Favoritentips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  The Hype Machine&#8217;s New Twitter Music Chart Is Too Easy To RickRoll  (techcrunch.com)   Mehr Musik, Videos und TexteToo Short - Money in the ghettoGinuwine - Same ol´gKeith Sweat - I´ll tradeAvant - 4 minutesShabba Ranks - Mr. Loverman    Bitte bewerte - Danke! WN_Type = 1;  Zum Bewerten - den Button klicken und [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  The Hype Machine&#8217;s New Twitter Music Chart Is Too Easy To RickRoll  (techcrunch.com)   Mehr Musik, Videos und TexteToo Short &#8211; Money in the ghettoGinuwine &#8211; Same ol´gKeith Sweat &#8211; I´ll tradeAvant &#8211; 4 minutesShabba Ranks &#8211; Mr. Loverman    Bitte bewerte &#8211; Danke! WN_Type = 1;  Zum Bewerten &#8211; den Button klicken und [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fusicology News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Miz Metro, Raashan Ahmad, J Dilla &#38; heat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2859678</link>
		<dc:creator>Fusicology News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Miz Metro, Raashan Ahmad, J Dilla &#38; heat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Hype Machine’s New Twitter Music Chart Is Too Easy To RickRoll [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Busted Keys</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2854918</link>
		<dc:creator>Busted Keys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the recent conversations about charts and integrity. however we need to discern what these charts are for.  Billboard for instance is based on units sold. The Hype Machine&#039;s Twitter Music Chart seems to be based on views/readership. while We Are Hunted looks to be based on positive blogs/reviews out there. in effect, all my above mentioned charts are available to game and the debate to measure real popularity may be a cross-referenced search of them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the recent conversations about charts and integrity. however we need to discern what these charts are for.  Billboard for instance is based on units sold. The Hype Machine&#8217;s Twitter Music Chart seems to be based on views/readership. while We Are Hunted looks to be based on positive blogs/reviews out there. in effect, all my above mentioned charts are available to game and the debate to measure real popularity may be a cross-referenced search of them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Hype Machine lança Technorati musical do Twitter &#124; Remixtures</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2851854</link>
		<dc:creator>Hype Machine lança Technorati musical do Twitter &#124; Remixtures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fácil alguém muito influente na Twittosfera desequilibrar a tabela. Foi o que Erick Schonfeld do TechCrunch fez. Ao usar a conta do blog de tecnologia no Twitter (com mais de um milhão de followers), [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fácil alguém muito influente na Twittosfera desequilibrar a tabela. Foi o que Erick Schonfeld do TechCrunch fez. Ao usar a conta do blog de tecnologia no Twitter (com mais de um milhão de followers), [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pinky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2851438</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too easy to RickRoll?

Except for the little problem of trying to get 916,735 followers on your Twitter account.</description>
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<p>Except for the little problem of trying to get 916,735 followers on your Twitter account.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch rickrolls the Hype Machine &#171; Music Machinery</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2851221</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch rickrolls the Hype Machine &#171; Music Machinery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rick Astley&#8217;s Never Gonna Give you Up at the top of the Hype Machine Twitter chart.  Erick writes &#8220;The Hype Machine’s formula is flawed. No single person should be able to affect the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rick Astley&#8217;s Never Gonna Give you Up at the top of the Hype Machine Twitter chart.  Erick writes &#8220;The Hype Machine’s formula is flawed. No single person should be able to affect the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Davenport</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2851110</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a conversation with @haynes_dave of Soundcloud about how it would be easy to game this twitter chart. He pointed out something I hadn&#039;t realised:

This is a chart of how many potential readers have seen about the track. So in this case, more people potentially will have read about the rick astley song.

For The Hype Machine, this makes sense. It&#039;s about measuring &#039;hype&#039;, or how much promotion a track has got. So it&#039;s easy to game, but the chart is a measurement, not a means to itself. 

Get me? It is a MEASUREMENT, so it is still valid for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a conversation with @haynes_dave of Soundcloud about how it would be easy to game this twitter chart. He pointed out something I hadn&#8217;t realised:</p>
<p>This is a chart of how many potential readers have seen about the track. So in this case, more people potentially will have read about the rick astley song.</p>
<p>For The Hype Machine, this makes sense. It&#8217;s about measuring &#8216;hype&#8217;, or how much promotion a track has got. So it&#8217;s easy to game, but the chart is a measurement, not a means to itself. </p>
<p>Get me? It is a MEASUREMENT, so it is still valid for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: alexander capoccia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850863</link>
		<dc:creator>alexander capoccia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem the only way to correct this is by weighting the algorithm based on twitter&#039;s median user metrics, imho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_curve_grading

Speaking of which, anyone know where to find updated averages of twitter&#039;s user-base?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem the only way to correct this is by weighting the algorithm based on twitter&#8217;s median user metrics, imho.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_curve_grading" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_curve_grading'>http://en.wikip...l_curve_grading</a></p>
<p>Speaking of which, anyone know where to find updated averages of twitter&#8217;s user-base?</p>
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		<title>By: Tilipirke</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850714</link>
		<dc:creator>Tilipirke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t a song&#039;s popularity on Twitter be linked to how many times it gets retweeted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t a song&#8217;s popularity on Twitter be linked to how many times it gets retweeted?</p>
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		<title>By: igniguy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850247</link>
		<dc:creator>igniguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or any kind of taste for that matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or any kind of taste for that matter</p>
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		<title>By: Clever Commenting Name</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850181</link>
		<dc:creator>Clever Commenting Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, we could let Rick rest in peace. Maybe then the RickRoll would become funny again.

...on second thought, it becoming funny again is as likely to happen as Michael Arrington professing his love for the former heads of Last.fm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, we could let Rick rest in peace. Maybe then the RickRoll would become funny again.</p>
<p>&#8230;on second thought, it becoming funny again is as likely to happen as Michael Arrington professing his love for the former heads of Last.fm.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850068</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just because one has many twitter followers is no indication of musical taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just because one has many twitter followers is no indication of musical taste.</p>
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		<title>By: twitter luver</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850063</link>
		<dc:creator>twitter luver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We Are Hunted has a much much cooler &lt;a href=&quot;http://wearehunted.com/twitter/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter Music Chart&lt;/a&gt;. 

WAH rocks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Are Hunted has a much much cooler <a href="http://wearehunted.com/twitter/" rel="nofollow">Twitter Music Chart</a>. </p>
<p>WAH rocks!</p>
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		<title>By: igniguy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850062</link>
		<dc:creator>igniguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey erick, can you tweet a song for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey erick, can you tweet a song for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Kainz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2850047</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Kainz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget about the hype machine. Take a look at tweet-tunes.com - The Top 20 Realtime Twitter Music Charts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget about the hype machine. Take a look at tweet-tunes.com &#8211; The Top 20 Realtime Twitter Music Charts!</p>
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		<title>By: Gadget Sleuth</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849992</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadget Sleuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, Astley never had this many fans when his music was actually new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, Astley never had this many fans when his music was actually new.</p>
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		<title>By: DaTruff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849988</link>
		<dc:creator>DaTruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Ashton Kutcher is now the arbiter of online music charts. I can&#039;t wait until he games the charts with &quot;Popo Zao&quot; without a trace of irony...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Ashton Kutcher is now the arbiter of online music charts. I can&#8217;t wait until he games the charts with &#8220;Popo Zao&#8221; without a trace of irony&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849984</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using your twitter account to tweet out links to crappy songs so you can push them up to the top of the charts is one way to lose followers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using your twitter account to tweet out links to crappy songs so you can push them up to the top of the charts is one way to lose followers.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="501760832">Joe Dawson</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849971</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="501760832">Joe Dawson</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to keep Rick Astley number one people :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to keep Rick Astley number one people <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HardyHar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849953</link>
		<dc:creator>HardyHar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice &quot;formula&quot; that&#039;s either the result of someone never attending a university and taking a single decent mathematics course with proofs or the marketing guy... I really really hope its the marketing guy. 

so kids where does your 1/3...0.5...10...10 come from? if you marked D out of your arse you&#039;d be correct!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice &#8220;formula&#8221; that&#8217;s either the result of someone never attending a university and taking a single decent mathematics course with proofs or the marketing guy&#8230; I really really hope its the marketing guy. </p>
<p>so kids where does your 1/3&#8230;0.5&#8230;10&#8230;10 come from? if you marked D out of your arse you&#8217;d be correct!</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849949</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s typos everywhere Erick, get out your spell checker!

Also, it&#039;s not rickrolling if they knowingly visit the video. Rickrolling is tricking someone into watching the video, not just mentioning the video somewhere. Learn your memes, Erick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s typos everywhere Erick, get out your spell checker!</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s not rickrolling if they knowingly visit the video. Rickrolling is tricking someone into watching the video, not just mentioning the video somewhere. Learn your memes, Erick!</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Schonfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849939</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick Schonfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, this is going to be overrun by Twitter spammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, this is going to be overrun by Twitter spammers.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Schonfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849938</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick Schonfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=81529#comment-2849938</guid>
		<description>Who reads comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who reads comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Schonfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/11/the-hype-machines-new-twitter-music-chart-is-too-easy-to-rickroll/comment-page-1/#comment-2849937</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick Schonfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll say!  That&#039;s what four nights in a row with less than 4 hours sleep will do to ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say!  That&#8217;s what four nights in a row with less than 4 hours sleep will do to ya.</p>
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