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		<title>By: Press gone too far - Politics and Other Controversies - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Press gone too far - Politics and Other Controversies - City-Data Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This story really angered me on so many levels but mostly because of the fact that just a few short months ago we learned that a NY Times reporter had escapted capture after beig held for 7 months but, we had never read about his capture because the NY Times and his family asked it be kept quiet to ensure his safety. Major news sources and Wkipedia as well as other sites did everything they could to keep this story from the news yet they go against the request from this family to not show this footage.. They ought to be ashamed of themselves!   NYTimes and Wikipedia Save Reporter&#8217;s Life By NOT Reporting On His Capture [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This story really angered me on so many levels but mostly because of the fact that just a few short months ago we learned that a NY Times reporter had escapted capture after beig held for 7 months but, we had never read about his capture because the NY Times and his family asked it be kept quiet to ensure his safety. Major news sources and Wkipedia as well as other sites did everything they could to keep this story from the news yet they go against the request from this family to not show this footage.. They ought to be ashamed of themselves!   NYTimes and Wikipedia Save Reporter&#8217;s Life By NOT Reporting On His Capture [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wikipedia Article on Rorschach Test Is a Potential Cheat Sheet &#124; Techgeist</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-2/#comment-2887924</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikipedia Article on Rorschach Test Is a Potential Cheat Sheet &#124; Techgeist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to remove it. Wikipedia even believes this philosophy in some cases &#8211; recently, it removed edits to an article about a New York Times employee who had been kidnapped in order to not increase the man&#8217;s perceived value in the eyes of his captors. If you were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to remove it. Wikipedia even believes this philosophy in some cases &#8211; recently, it removed edits to an article about a New York Times employee who had been kidnapped in order to not increase the man&#8217;s perceived value in the eyes of his captors. If you were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Saving David Rohde Through Media Muffling - PSFK.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saving David Rohde Through Media Muffling - PSFK.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mtBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism and Wikipedia&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-2/#comment-2834536</link>
		<dc:creator>mtBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism and Wikipedia&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: charlieV</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlieV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is more to the story than meets the eye.


It&#039;s easy enough to switch information around on a Wikipedia page, but how do you erase the cache of saved pages in the Google SERP&#039;s? 

If you googled &quot;Rohde&quot; and found the Wikipedia page in the results, you hit the cache link and see a snapshot of the site as it appeared a few months before. 

Any story, comment, snipit or blog posting that was spidered by Google is in the search engine&#039;s cache. It&#039;s viewable even after it&#039;s gone. If you were searching for this story, you would have found it.

People will google &quot;The Hills&quot; or &quot;Michael Jackson&quot; for hours on end. I just don&#039;t believe that people that would kidnap an American wouldn&#039;t spend more than 10 minutes googling their hostage.

Whatever happened I&#039;m happy this guy is ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is more to the story than meets the eye.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy enough to switch information around on a Wikipedia page, but how do you erase the cache of saved pages in the Google SERP&#8217;s? </p>
<p>If you googled &#8220;Rohde&#8221; and found the Wikipedia page in the results, you hit the cache link and see a snapshot of the site as it appeared a few months before. </p>
<p>Any story, comment, snipit or blog posting that was spidered by Google is in the search engine&#8217;s cache. It&#8217;s viewable even after it&#8217;s gone. If you were searching for this story, you would have found it.</p>
<p>People will google &#8220;The Hills&#8221; or &#8220;Michael Jackson&#8221; for hours on end. I just don&#8217;t believe that people that would kidnap an American wouldn&#8217;t spend more than 10 minutes googling their hostage.</p>
<p>Whatever happened I&#8217;m happy this guy is ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Fun watching the chaos time-killing clone edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fun watching the chaos time-killing clone edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really happened is somebody decided holding him wasn&#039;t worth a Shiite, Sunni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really happened is somebody decided holding him wasn&#8217;t worth a Shiite, Sunni.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in the ACORN case the decision was not to report something that was not really a big deal because there were loads of misinformed people who would think it was a big deal. ACORN was not involved in voter fraud. ACORN itself flagged all ballots it suspected as fraudulent before it submitted them. They had to submit the fraudulent ballots by law. 
You could say this is suppressing the news, or you could say it&#039;s not printing a non-story, like any number of other non-stories they don&#039;t print. Since there are several so-called news organizations out there aggressively spreading misinformation, the NYTimes and other organizations who have an interest in truth perhaps have to be careful not to put out this unimportant information that can easily be turned into lies and innuendo. It could have been a &quot;game-changer,&quot; but only in the same way printing a picture of McCain with his dark-skinned daughter the day before the South Carolina primary in 2000 could have had a huge effect. For those skeptical about the misinformation spread by the Rove smear-polls, it might have turned them against McCain. (Not that the smears weren&#039;t already enough to bring him down). What I&#039;m saying is, newspapers do not have to print every possible fact in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in the ACORN case the decision was not to report something that was not really a big deal because there were loads of misinformed people who would think it was a big deal. ACORN was not involved in voter fraud. ACORN itself flagged all ballots it suspected as fraudulent before it submitted them. They had to submit the fraudulent ballots by law.<br />
You could say this is suppressing the news, or you could say it&#8217;s not printing a non-story, like any number of other non-stories they don&#8217;t print. Since there are several so-called news organizations out there aggressively spreading misinformation, the NYTimes and other organizations who have an interest in truth perhaps have to be careful not to put out this unimportant information that can easily be turned into lies and innuendo. It could have been a &#8220;game-changer,&#8221; but only in the same way printing a picture of McCain with his dark-skinned daughter the day before the South Carolina primary in 2000 could have had a huge effect. For those skeptical about the misinformation spread by the Rove smear-polls, it might have turned them against McCain. (Not that the smears weren&#8217;t already enough to bring him down). What I&#8217;m saying is, newspapers do not have to print every possible fact in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Conlon Fans &#187; Discoveries: 6/26/09 through 6/30/09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Conlon Fans &#187; Discoveries: 6/26/09 through 6/30/09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Links: 2009-06-30 - Credit Writedowns</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-2/#comment-2830108</link>
		<dc:creator>Links: 2009-06-30 - Credit Writedowns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] concerns over the dilutive effect of new share issues planned by the two financial groups.&quot;NYTimes and Wikipedia Save Reporter&#8217;s Life By NOT Reporting On His Capture &#8211; Tech Crunch DeLong: Sympathy for Greenspan &#8211; Mark [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] concerns over the dilutive effect of new share issues planned by the two financial groups.&quot;NYTimes and Wikipedia Save Reporter&#8217;s Life By NOT Reporting On His Capture &#8211; Tech Crunch DeLong: Sympathy for Greenspan &#8211; Mark [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same NY Times that compromised national security by illegally and unethically leaking stories about the fed govt programs to track suspicious terrorist activities?  Let&#039;s see, we&#039;ll hold news stories to save the skin of one of our own reporters but we will (in a heartbeat), compromise the safety of U.S. citizens by printing anything we can that promotes our agenda.  Hmmm, not the kind of values I would want to teach my children.  But hey, we&#039;re the NY Times and we decide what&#039;s good for the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same NY Times that compromised national security by illegally and unethically leaking stories about the fed govt programs to track suspicious terrorist activities?  Let&#8217;s see, we&#8217;ll hold news stories to save the skin of one of our own reporters but we will (in a heartbeat), compromise the safety of U.S. citizens by printing anything we can that promotes our agenda.  Hmmm, not the kind of values I would want to teach my children.  But hey, we&#8217;re the NY Times and we decide what&#8217;s good for the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Sabaya</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-2/#comment-2829402</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Sabaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it will be now the policy of 37 major news organizations not to report kidnappings of journalists abroad?  What if the kidnappers also change their policies by killing &#039;no value&#039; hostages, who will be responsible for suppressing the truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it will be now the policy of 37 major news organizations not to report kidnappings of journalists abroad?  What if the kidnappers also change their policies by killing &#8216;no value&#8217; hostages, who will be responsible for suppressing the truth?</p>
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		<title>By: Rockwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rockwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NY Times reports on stories related to national security all the time that endanger the lives of American operatives and servicemen, in certain cases after the State Department has specifically requested that they not release stories due to their sensitive nature and the possibility of people getting killed. When they do that, they call it &quot;journalistic integrity&quot;. However, when the person at risk is one of their own, withholding the information is &quot;laudable&quot;. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NY Times reports on stories related to national security all the time that endanger the lives of American operatives and servicemen, in certain cases after the State Department has specifically requested that they not release stories due to their sensitive nature and the possibility of people getting killed. When they do that, they call it &#8220;journalistic integrity&#8221;. However, when the person at risk is one of their own, withholding the information is &#8220;laudable&#8221;. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel Goldstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmanuel Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great article here proving that Wikipedia is manipulated and controlled, in regards to information on naked short selling of shares in the financial markets:

http://www.deepcapture.com/do-i-live-in-a-synthetic-reality-do-it-yourself-home-test/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great article here proving that Wikipedia is manipulated and controlled, in regards to information on naked short selling of shares in the financial markets:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.deepcapture.com/do-i-live-in-a-synthetic-reality-do-it-yourself-home-test/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.deepcapture.com/do-i-live-in-a-synthetic-reality-do-it-yourself-home-test/'>http://www.deep...self-home-test/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-2/#comment-2828878</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wikipedia is not censored&quot;, well looking at this story it is! 
&quot;We cannot anticipate every bad idea any one of us might have&quot; well having administrators not allow postings of truthful content is a bad idea.

Hence the truth is out; almost all you read anywhere is manipulated or spun! There is no place where true freedom of expression is tolerated. We all live in controlled environments. 

Wikipedia has lost it&#039;s facade of high ideals and the truth is that we the public are the poorer for it. We hoped in our millions in perennial hope for something better that being a sheep. 

But here we are just sheep, being manipulated, monitored and controlled. 

The internet was a good hope for freedom but it is slowly being soured by Governments everywhere, I am not sure if we will ever have real freedom, but I for one applaud Anonymous from Florida, for at least trying to get his voice heard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wikipedia is not censored&#8221;, well looking at this story it is!<br />
&#8220;We cannot anticipate every bad idea any one of us might have&#8221; well having administrators not allow postings of truthful content is a bad idea.</p>
<p>Hence the truth is out; almost all you read anywhere is manipulated or spun! There is no place where true freedom of expression is tolerated. We all live in controlled environments. </p>
<p>Wikipedia has lost it&#8217;s facade of high ideals and the truth is that we the public are the poorer for it. We hoped in our millions in perennial hope for something better that being a sheep. </p>
<p>But here we are just sheep, being manipulated, monitored and controlled. </p>
<p>The internet was a good hope for freedom but it is slowly being soured by Governments everywhere, I am not sure if we will ever have real freedom, but I for one applaud Anonymous from Florida, for at least trying to get his voice heard</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-1/#comment-2828837</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should humanity be top of all in civilisation? especially when such request was raised by the employer NyTimes which care for the employee&#039;s life.

You don&#039;t want to sacrifice David&#039;s life for your value of telling the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should humanity be top of all in civilisation? especially when such request was raised by the employer NyTimes which care for the employee&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want to sacrifice David&#8217;s life for your value of telling the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: New Gadgets &#124; NYTimes and Wikipedia Save Reporter&#8217;s Life By NOT Reporting On His Capture</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-2/#comment-2828770</link>
		<dc:creator>New Gadgets &#124; NYTimes and Wikipedia Save Reporter&#8217;s Life By NOT Reporting On His Capture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABSOLUTE HOGWASH - the NYT and other media outlets bleat to the high heavens when a soldier or marine is captured, but bend the rules when it is one of their own.

Laudable?   Hardly, more apropos would be disgusting hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABSOLUTE HOGWASH &#8211; the NYT and other media outlets bleat to the high heavens when a soldier or marine is captured, but bend the rules when it is one of their own.</p>
<p>Laudable?   Hardly, more apropos would be disgusting hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: IONIZED: A Journal of Witty Commentary - Wikipedia and NYTimes Save a Reporter&#8217;s&#160;Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>IONIZED: A Journal of Witty Commentary - Wikipedia and NYTimes Save a Reporter&#8217;s&#160;Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Murch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Murch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Greg but I have to call B.S. here.

You write &quot;what’s special about this case is that it’s clear now that these terrorists have made specific targets of journalists&quot;

The Taliban and Al Qaeda have been very clear that they target *all* westerners.  

Journalists are certainly a high value target, but their *lives* are of equal value to other citizens.  

As just one example, Red Cross Workers have been kidnapped, and the NYTimes further jeapordized their lives by reporting it (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9906E6DA1F3EF93BA1575AC0A9619C8B63).  

The NYTimes had no problem reporting on the kidnapping of Daniel Pearl, and he&#039;s a journalist.  (Just not a NYTimes employee.)

The NYTimes has repeatedly been asked in the past not to detail certain military plans because it would jeapordize an ongoing operation, yet they frequently ignore these requests.

Sure seems hypocritical to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Greg but I have to call B.S. here.</p>
<p>You write &#8220;what’s special about this case is that it’s clear now that these terrorists have made specific targets of journalists&#8221;</p>
<p>The Taliban and Al Qaeda have been very clear that they target *all* westerners.  </p>
<p>Journalists are certainly a high value target, but their *lives* are of equal value to other citizens.  </p>
<p>As just one example, Red Cross Workers have been kidnapped, and the NYTimes further jeapordized their lives by reporting it (<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9906E6DA1F3EF93BA1575AC0A9619C8B63)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9906E6DA1F3EF93BA1575AC0A9619C8B63'>http://query.ny...75AC0A9619C8B63</a>).  </p>
<p>The NYTimes had no problem reporting on the kidnapping of Daniel Pearl, and he&#8217;s a journalist.  (Just not a NYTimes employee.)</p>
<p>The NYTimes has repeatedly been asked in the past not to detail certain military plans because it would jeapordize an ongoing operation, yet they frequently ignore these requests.</p>
<p>Sure seems hypocritical to me.</p>
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		<title>By: wow</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-1/#comment-2828125</link>
		<dc:creator>wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, this is actually well and good, but does this make you realize how easy it is to keep things quiet? This story should make you finally realize that media censorship and bias is very real in this country, even on the internet. There are only small enclaves of free speech left, and even those are constantly under attack. http://anonboard.com is a good example of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, this is actually well and good, but does this make you realize how easy it is to keep things quiet? This story should make you finally realize that media censorship and bias is very real in this country, even on the internet. There are only small enclaves of free speech left, and even those are constantly under attack. <a href="http://anonboard.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://anonboard.com'>http://anonboard.com</a> is a good example of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharlene</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-1/#comment-2828096</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty simple, Erick is saying that the NYT valued the life of their reporter over the value of the report, but when it comes to military they value the report over the life of the soldier.

It&#039;s not a political or election-based opinion. 

The NYT isn&#039;t altruistic because they&#039;ve valued a report over the safety of others plenty before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty simple, Erick is saying that the NYT valued the life of their reporter over the value of the report, but when it comes to military they value the report over the life of the soldier.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a political or election-based opinion. </p>
<p>The NYT isn&#8217;t altruistic because they&#8217;ve valued a report over the safety of others plenty before.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-1/#comment-2828009</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m astonished by all the &quot;I don&#039;t don&#039;t see what is different about this kidnapping/this story&quot; posts.  First, the Times has held back innumerable stories and pieces of information during its existence at the request of governments, including the GWB administration, during its history, in order not to put lives in danger.  The newspaper probably has to make calls like this hundreds of times every year, and, of course, we generally don&#039;t hear anything about the stories/information not released.  These decisions are often not easy, and you can&#039;t comply with every government call for secrecy since government types would keep the color of their toenail polish classified if they could.  And certainly mistakes are made.

Second, what&#039;s special about this case is that it&#039;s clear now that these terrorists have made specific targets of journalists, and it&#039;s also clear now, after the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl, that trying to publicly pressure these kidnappers to release journalists held as hostages puts those hostages in more danger and encourages the terrorists to try and take more journalists hostage. The US has never had to deal with terrorists like this before; previous generations of terrorists, such as the PLO and its offshoots, were sensitive to public pressure in many hostage situations, because they were trying to advance their cause partly by appealing to public opinion.  And they tended not to target journalists, because journalists provided them with a way to spread their message.  The Taliban and their associates are different.  They aren&#039;t looking to earn Western support.  They don&#039;t believe that having any Western reporters in their countries provides any benefit.  And they&#039;ve made journalists targets because they know think that kidnapping journalists will get more attention and that, in general, journalists often work for Western corporations they might be able to successfully blackmail for cash.  And the downside of kidnapping journalists is that they have to settle for ridding their country of one more journalist, which is a victory for them in and of itself 

I can kind of sympathize with those who believe that information should not be kept from the public regardless of the consequences.  But those who can&#039;t see what makes this case different just don&#039;t want to look.

PS - On a different note, it is funny to see that people pop up arguing that the New York Times is no longer relevant.  The Times now is more widely read and more influential than it has been at any previous point in its history.   Even if you don&#039;t read the Times at all, it&#039;s impossible to escape its influence in the blogosphere.   Its financial problems are serious and what importance it will have in the future is open to question, but anybody who doesn&#039;t see that the net the growth net and the collapse of much of the mainstream media has enabled the Times to greatly expand its influence is living in an alternate dimension. The Times&#039; mystical status has probably declined, but one of the reason the Times got labeled the &quot;paper of record&quot; is that 40 years ago, it published many stories of international and national importance that were so boring that absolutely no one read them beyond the editor and the government official quoted in the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m astonished by all the &#8220;I don&#8217;t don&#8217;t see what is different about this kidnapping/this story&#8221; posts.  First, the Times has held back innumerable stories and pieces of information during its existence at the request of governments, including the GWB administration, during its history, in order not to put lives in danger.  The newspaper probably has to make calls like this hundreds of times every year, and, of course, we generally don&#8217;t hear anything about the stories/information not released.  These decisions are often not easy, and you can&#8217;t comply with every government call for secrecy since government types would keep the color of their toenail polish classified if they could.  And certainly mistakes are made.</p>
<p>Second, what&#8217;s special about this case is that it&#8217;s clear now that these terrorists have made specific targets of journalists, and it&#8217;s also clear now, after the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl, that trying to publicly pressure these kidnappers to release journalists held as hostages puts those hostages in more danger and encourages the terrorists to try and take more journalists hostage. The US has never had to deal with terrorists like this before; previous generations of terrorists, such as the PLO and its offshoots, were sensitive to public pressure in many hostage situations, because they were trying to advance their cause partly by appealing to public opinion.  And they tended not to target journalists, because journalists provided them with a way to spread their message.  The Taliban and their associates are different.  They aren&#8217;t looking to earn Western support.  They don&#8217;t believe that having any Western reporters in their countries provides any benefit.  And they&#8217;ve made journalists targets because they know think that kidnapping journalists will get more attention and that, in general, journalists often work for Western corporations they might be able to successfully blackmail for cash.  And the downside of kidnapping journalists is that they have to settle for ridding their country of one more journalist, which is a victory for them in and of itself </p>
<p>I can kind of sympathize with those who believe that information should not be kept from the public regardless of the consequences.  But those who can&#8217;t see what makes this case different just don&#8217;t want to look.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; On a different note, it is funny to see that people pop up arguing that the New York Times is no longer relevant.  The Times now is more widely read and more influential than it has been at any previous point in its history.   Even if you don&#8217;t read the Times at all, it&#8217;s impossible to escape its influence in the blogosphere.   Its financial problems are serious and what importance it will have in the future is open to question, but anybody who doesn&#8217;t see that the net the growth net and the collapse of much of the mainstream media has enabled the Times to greatly expand its influence is living in an alternate dimension. The Times&#8217; mystical status has probably declined, but one of the reason the Times got labeled the &#8220;paper of record&#8221; is that 40 years ago, it published many stories of international and national importance that were so boring that absolutely no one read them beyond the editor and the government official quoted in the story.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="503398414">Jeremy Gordinier</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-2/#comment-2827987</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="503398414">Jeremy Gordinier</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, this story works as an uplifting piece because of the outcome. Had the reporter died at the end of this struggle then the Times could be held accountable for keeping a lid on his capture. It is also possible that publicizing his capture would have allowed more us to marshall more resources on his behalf. Media censorship is not cause for celebration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, this story works as an uplifting piece because of the outcome. Had the reporter died at the end of this struggle then the Times could be held accountable for keeping a lid on his capture. It is also possible that publicizing his capture would have allowed more us to marshall more resources on his behalf. Media censorship is not cause for celebration.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Courtrille</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/28/nytimes-and-wikipedia-save-reporters-life-by-not-reporting-on-his-capture/comment-page-1/#comment-2827924</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Courtrille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it scary how many people are perfectly fine with the media distorting the truth as it fits their needs/desires.  

I guess we&#039;ve all gotten well past the point where we expect the media to be unbiased and honest but that doesn&#039;t mean I can&#039;t be unhappy with the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it scary how many people are perfectly fine with the media distorting the truth as it fits their needs/desires.  </p>
<p>I guess we&#8217;ve all gotten well past the point where we expect the media to be unbiased and honest but that doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t be unhappy with the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW EASILY MEDIA INSTITUTIONS CAN COLLABORATE TO CONTROL THE NEWS WE RECEIVE, EVEN SOURCES LIKE WIKIPEDIA. THIS IS BETTER THAN CENSORSHIP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW EASILY MEDIA INSTITUTIONS CAN COLLABORATE TO CONTROL THE NEWS WE RECEIVE, EVEN SOURCES LIKE WIKIPEDIA. THIS IS BETTER THAN CENSORSHIP.</p>
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