Comments on: How To Save The Newspapers, Vol. XII: Outlaw Linking

By: harleymc

harleymc — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:56:01 +0000

The easiest solution to unauthorised links to material is to not publish to the web.

So if Jurassic media have a problem with the digital world they have the option of not playing in it.

By: Copyright Corner » A Tale of Two Proposals to Change Copyright Law to Protect Newspapers: Part 1

Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:38:29 +0000

[...] feel that changing copyright law is what is needed to save newspapers. On the other side, some commenters have decried Posner’s and the Marburgers’ proposals on First Amendment grounds. Others, [...]

By: Linkfest! «

Linkfest! « — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:43:23 +0000

[...] Como Salvar os Jornais: Criminalize os Links. [...]

By: Are we really this blind as a nation? : The Chronicle Watch

Are we really this blind as a nation? : The Chronicle Watch — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:25:12 +0000

[...] To Save The Newspapers, Vol. XII: Outlaw Linking http://www.techcrunch.com/ Expanding copyright law to bar online access to copyrighted materials without the copyright [...]

By: Rajendra Tiwari

Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:32:46 +0000

my dear urban, this whole thing is not hilarious, it needs deep thinking and innovations. it is for sure that old rules will not be doing needful anymore!!!!

Ans 1 : Every one of us need credible news and analysis. Afa plateform is concerned, newspaper is most convenient.

Ans 2 : newspapers are not worth 0 the day after. One can use them as per ones requirement or convenience.

Ans 3 : U know news gathering is very costly and delivering it credibly even more.

By: Rajendra Tiwari

Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:18:25 +0000

Ans 1 : Every one of us need credible news and analysis. Afa plateform is concerned, newspaper is most convenient.

Ans 2 : newspapers are not worth 0 the day after. One can use them as per ones requirement or convenience.

Ans 3 : U know news gathering is very costly and delivering it credibly even more.

And my dear urban, this whole thing is not hilarious, it needs deep thinking and innovations. it is for sure that old rules will not be doing needful anymore!!!!

By: Kevin Kennedy

Kevin Kennedy — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:31:48 +0000

Interesting post. I tackle some of the same issues as it impacts business newspapers in “Business newspapers sharpen focus on the future.” http://tinyurl.com/knj97r

By: Rob

Rob — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:27:54 +0000

If you charge me for reading your newspaper – I would expect ‘perks’ – such discounts/savings on national and local merchants.
I’m a loyal reader – so it stands to reason you should have a loyalty program for me.
You know where I live so why not make life easier for me in these economic times – by saving me money on the things I already buy?
OneBigPlanet is already partnering with newspapers across the US to make this reality.”

By: Would you pay for a newspaper website subscription? | BitterWallet

Would you pay for a newspaper website subscription? | BitterWallet — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:34:47 +0000

[...] in part, but revenue was falling long before it began. So what are newspapers to do about it? One judge in the US has suggested banning hyperlinks, while the New York Times is considering making online content available only to [...]

By: Daily Pundit » Copyright Clowns and Cretins

Daily Pundit » Copyright Clowns and Cretins — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:15:09 +0000

[...] author of the TechCrunch article which pointed me to Posner’s blog post is outraged at the notion. “I don’t need to [...]

By: Steven Riggs

Steven Riggs — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:06:37 +0000

Your comment about linking to copyrighted material being legal since “That is just the way the Web works” is just plain wrong.

Let’s assume your bank stupidly publishes an API that lets anybody create a link such that each time someone clicks it a hundred dollars is deducted from your bank account. If somebody does click the link, is it not stealing? You would probably sue your bank, but I suspect you would also want to go after anybody who did use the link. Most people would call such use of the link stealing. Similarly, you certainly can create a link to somebody’s copyrighted content, but that act *by itself* does not grant that person legal access to content to which you do not own the rights.

Copyright law is not about what is physically possible; it’s about what’s legally defined. Just because you can physically point a gun at someone and pull the trigger doesn’t mean you can ignore the legal concept of “murder”.

If you want to justify linking to someone’s copyrighted material, you had better base your argument on existing copyright law. You seem to be arguing that by putting something on the web somebody gives up the right on how it is accessed. That’s not an unreasonable argument, but it needs to be based on existing copyright law. Saying it’s legal just because you can do it is an emotional argument without any legal validity.

By: This Week» Blog Archive » Should linking be illegal?

This Week» Blog Archive » Should linking be illegal? — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:34:02 +0000

[...] notion set off an eruption from the likes of Jeff Jarvis, Matt Welch and Erick Schonfeld, among others. And they are right to be furious. Not only would Posner stop online media dead in [...]

By: statism watch » Blog Archive » Should linking be illegal?

statism watch » Blog Archive » Should linking be illegal? — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:43:35 +0000

[...] notion set off an eruption from the likes of Jeff Jarvis, Matt Welch and Erick Schonfeld, among others. And they are right to be furious. Not only would Posner stop online media dead in [...]

By: P T Withington

P T Withington — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:17:39 +0000

[This article](http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/newspapers-and-thinking-the-unthinkable/) by Clay Shirky seems especially relevant to this conversation. Interestingly, I discovered the article because Utne (a print medium) “linked” (excepted) the original article from Shirky’s web site.

By: LSDI : Paralizzare il Web per salvare i giornali?

LSDI : Paralizzare il Web per salvare i giornali? — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:28:34 +0000

[...] rema a tutta forza proprio in questa direzione. E adesso ne sanno qualcosa anche negli USA , dove un giudice di nome Posner vuole vietare per legge l’uso di link verso qualsiasi articolo di giornale o materiale protetto da copyright, senza prima aver ottenuto i [...]

By: Is Outlawing Links A Way To Save Newspapers? - SeanPAune.com

Is Outlawing Links A Way To Save Newspapers? - SeanPAune.com — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:02:01 +0000

[...] the weekend, Erick Schonfeld of TechCrunch wrote up a post about how Judge Richard Posner wrote up a blog about the death of newspapers, and [...]

By: averros

averros — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:27:10 +0000

> how can we ensure access to timely, and truthful
> information, if the Press is being sucked dry?

Well, killing the Press will improve quality and truthfulness of information by reducing amount of propaganda being pushed as objective “news”. At least nobody has illusions that people on the Internet are biased – and one does have access to a much wider range of opinions, without the control of those who own the Press.

By: Photomaniacal » Blog Archive » Should linking be illegal? | Dan Kennedy

Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:36:58 +0000

[...] notion set off an eruption from the likes of Jeff Jarvis, Matt Welch and Erick Schonfeld, among others. And they are right to be furious. Not only would Posner stop online media dead in [...]

By: DWF » Blog Archive » A Law Against Web Links?

DWF » Blog Archive » A Law Against Web Links? — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:57:21 +0000

[...] everyone turn in their library cards and we burn the books as well. Even more scary, according to tech crunch, Posner was once considered as a nominee for the supreme [...]

By: Linky

Linky — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:56:18 +0000

Eric, remember Posner has friends on the federal bench who can throw you in jail for premeditated, felonious linking.

I’m sure he’s got your number now.

Say hi to Bernie for me.

By: Patrizia Broghammer

Patrizia Broghammer — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:00:21 +0000

Admitting he was right, how could they punish ALL bloggers and ALL links?
Unless they would fine (outrageously) a very few as an example, which I find unacceptable.
In a moment in which the copyrights life is on stake, it is simply ridiculous to propose to criminalize linking.
It is not only useless, but even dangerous to make laws you are sure you won’t be able to oblige people to follow.
You could start the thought that when a crime is committed by millions becomes a habit…

Patrizia

http://woip.blogspot.com

By: mim

mim — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:23:40 +0000

Erick Schonfeld, you missed the scariest part. Judge Posner wants it to be illegal to paraphrase anything under copyright, without the copyright holder’s express permission. That means talk about what someone else said in our own words.

Can you imagine having to submit a written request to the New York Times Company to be able to talk about anything anyone said on the Times site?

Judge Posner, I just paraphrased you. So did Erick Schonfeld. So are you going to order TechCrunch to take down this post?

Why not just call for the repeal of the First Amendment?

By: save The New York Times

save The New York Times — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:16:37 +0000

How To Save The New York Times: Outlaw Linking…

TechCrunch’s Erick Schonfeld explores yet another scheme to save the newspaper industry (and, yes, I’m guilty already).
“Of all the misguided schemes put forth lately to save newspapers (micropayments! blame Google!), the one put fort…

By: Required social media reading for today | www.3gcom.org

Required social media reading for today | www.3gcom.org — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:04:55 +0000

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By: Joe Mescher

Joe Mescher — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:48:22 +0000

…Didn’t we Just Hear Some Newspapers Contemplating Bailouts from Congress?

Are we heading for the end of Free Speech here?

The day a bureaucrat is allowed the power to censor the links I share, honestly and with attribution, is the day I buy a houseboat and leave our shores for good.

Joe Mescher
http://www.Soci...diaCommando.com