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		<title>By: Traditional News Outlets Still Beating Blogs to the Punch 96.5 Percent of the Time &#171; context analytics</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2985918</link>
		<dc:creator>Traditional News Outlets Still Beating Blogs to the Punch 96.5 Percent of the Time &#171; context analytics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Twitter getting all the credit for breaking the news of Michael Jackson’s death, it’s nice to see mainstream media getting its [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Old Media vs. New Media: Battle to the death? &#124; Old Media, New Tricks</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2831475</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Media vs. New Media: Battle to the death? &#124; Old Media, New Tricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Robin Wauters took Old Media to task for not being quick enough to report the Michael Jackson&#8217;s death, saying new media entities [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bo Ring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo Ring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TMZ got this right why? What did they do to confirm it? Are we sure is the question that everyone should ask before publishing something as fact. You act like this is a bad thing when it is in fact, the most important thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TMZ got this right why? What did they do to confirm it? Are we sure is the question that everyone should ask before publishing something as fact. You act like this is a bad thing when it is in fact, the most important thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter is a communication tool, not an information source - The Downside</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2829803</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter is a communication tool, not an information source - The Downside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Michael Jackson&#8217;s untimely death, the TechCrunch blowhards bellyached about how the mainstream media didn&#8217;t recognize Twitter&#8217;s role in the story coverage.  Author Robin Wauters cites the Chicago Tribune&#8217;s coverage: Gossip [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Michael Jackson&#8217;s untimely death, the TechCrunch blowhards bellyached about how the mainstream media didn&#8217;t recognize Twitter&#8217;s role in the story coverage.  Author Robin Wauters cites the Chicago Tribune&#8217;s coverage: Gossip [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sour Grapes: TMZ and the Michael Jackson Scoop of the Decade &#171; Lance Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2829729</link>
		<dc:creator>Sour Grapes: TMZ and the Michael Jackson Scoop of the Decade &#171; Lance Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the battle is joined. TechCrunch is quick to argue that the mainstream offline press is having a defensive reaction to being [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Jackson&#8217;s Death Spurs Conflict Between Twitter and Old Media &#124; @Tweet_Newz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2828573</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jackson&#8217;s Death Spurs Conflict Between Twitter and Old Media &#124; @Tweet_Newz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For a more thorough look at this debate check out the following article on Techcrunch. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sunday Roundup: Replies, Breaking Twitter, and Profile Expansion - idoTwitter.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2826578</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Roundup: Replies, Breaking Twitter, and Profile Expansion - idoTwitter.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mainstream Media Still Has Eyes Wide Shut (techcrunch.com) &#8211; Twitter search was &#8220;broken&#8221; by the news of the death of King of Pop Michael Jackson. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, in fact this situation shows just how useless twitter information truely is. Twitter is constantly touted as a real time source for news worthy events, but in actuality twitter is just a high speed rumor mill, completly void of useful information. The more interested the followers become in the twitter stream, the more useless the information becomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, in fact this situation shows just how useless twitter information truely is. Twitter is constantly touted as a real time source for news worthy events, but in actuality twitter is just a high speed rumor mill, completly void of useful information. The more interested the followers become in the twitter stream, the more useless the information becomes.</p>
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		<title>By: marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit ridiculous robin. Old media rarely makes mistakes on the magnitude of someones death - the bbc, NY Times, etc. etc. they make small errors from time to time sure, but nothing serious. (discounting tabloids) Twitter is rumour mongering and mob mentality, and all over the internet every day there are massive rumours / lies and god knows what.
Whilst i read blogs (such as TC) i always do with a healthy degree of scepticism. Call me old school, but i love the fact that there are old dogs at newspapers still checking sources, still with serious codes of ethics and old school attitudes. And still, when it comes to the REAL stories, the serious ones, such as things on the level of watergate, election fraud etc. etc. it&#039;ll still be, and probably always be, the old school media organisations breaking them. A blog may find out by coincidence (or guess) about a celebrity death, but thet&#039;s see them try and break something major. Maybe they will one day, but i&#039;ve never seen it yet, and without the infastructure those stories require for support, i doubt i ever will do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit ridiculous robin. Old media rarely makes mistakes on the magnitude of someones death &#8211; the bbc, NY Times, etc. etc. they make small errors from time to time sure, but nothing serious. (discounting tabloids) Twitter is rumour mongering and mob mentality, and all over the internet every day there are massive rumours / lies and god knows what.<br />
Whilst i read blogs (such as TC) i always do with a healthy degree of scepticism. Call me old school, but i love the fact that there are old dogs at newspapers still checking sources, still with serious codes of ethics and old school attitudes. And still, when it comes to the REAL stories, the serious ones, such as things on the level of watergate, election fraud etc. etc. it&#8217;ll still be, and probably always be, the old school media organisations breaking them. A blog may find out by coincidence (or guess) about a celebrity death, but thet&#8217;s see them try and break something major. Maybe they will one day, but i&#8217;ve never seen it yet, and without the infastructure those stories require for support, i doubt i ever will do.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvey Levin at TMZ is trash and scum.  Is new media mean that everyone is being monitored on CCTV and your every step is reported on twitter or facebook, even if voluntarily?  Do we really want hospital workers leaking illness and death to scummy papperazzi people?  MJ could have alredy died or been in a coma, but I would have hate to have found out by TMZ if I was his family.  

Does new media mean there is no common decency?  Does it mean that gossip on twitter runs and ruins our lives?  New media is penniless and runs on gossip to earn money from the eroding pie that we call news.  Will anyone ever pay for a subscription to Twitter like the newspapers or cable news, probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvey Levin at TMZ is trash and scum.  Is new media mean that everyone is being monitored on CCTV and your every step is reported on twitter or facebook, even if voluntarily?  Do we really want hospital workers leaking illness and death to scummy papperazzi people?  MJ could have alredy died or been in a coma, but I would have hate to have found out by TMZ if I was his family.  </p>
<p>Does new media mean there is no common decency?  Does it mean that gossip on twitter runs and ruins our lives?  New media is penniless and runs on gossip to earn money from the eroding pie that we call news.  Will anyone ever pay for a subscription to Twitter like the newspapers or cable news, probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: david woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>david woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got the michael jackson news on topix someone said michael jackson had died then i looked up in the left hand corner of the topix site hey had a news bulletin  with his pic, then i moved over to the tv,and of course all the cable networks had it on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got the michael jackson news on topix someone said michael jackson had died then i looked up in the left hand corner of the topix site hey had a news bulletin  with his pic, then i moved over to the tv,and of course all the cable networks had it on</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Tomaso</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2825490</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Tomaso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but my impression is that -- unlike with previous big breaking stories -- Twitter added little if any value to the early reporting on Jackson&#039;s death. 

As someone said above, most of the tweets just parroted what other sites were reporting; often, Twitter (hardly alone) either crashed or was slow; and at least some of the information it helped spread turned out to be BS. (Jeff Goldblum?) So if Old Media don&#039;t deserve any crowns of laurel for their Jackson coverage, neither, perhaps,  do New -- except TMZ.

As for that silly Chicago Trib article: My midnight guess is that it wasn&#039;t written by a &quot;dinosaur&quot; at all. My guess is that it was written by a young,  inexperienced reporter who was in way over his or her head and who was only on an important story like this because the Tribune, like so many once-great news organizations, has slashed its newsroom budgets and pushed dozens of skilled, exceptional journalists out the door.  

A lot of the time, you really do get what you pay for -- something that readers of the free Web and of stripped-down newspapers and magazines would do well to keep in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but my impression is that &#8212; unlike with previous big breaking stories &#8212; Twitter added little if any value to the early reporting on Jackson&#8217;s death. </p>
<p>As someone said above, most of the tweets just parroted what other sites were reporting; often, Twitter (hardly alone) either crashed or was slow; and at least some of the information it helped spread turned out to be BS. (Jeff Goldblum?) So if Old Media don&#8217;t deserve any crowns of laurel for their Jackson coverage, neither, perhaps,  do New &#8212; except TMZ.</p>
<p>As for that silly Chicago Trib article: My midnight guess is that it wasn&#8217;t written by a &#8220;dinosaur&#8221; at all. My guess is that it was written by a young,  inexperienced reporter who was in way over his or her head and who was only on an important story like this because the Tribune, like so many once-great news organizations, has slashed its newsroom budgets and pushed dozens of skilled, exceptional journalists out the door.  </p>
<p>A lot of the time, you really do get what you pay for &#8212; something that readers of the free Web and of stripped-down newspapers and magazines would do well to keep in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the &quot;either/or&quot; dichotomy.  Twitter is not a &quot;source&quot;, any more than words on paper, the telegraph, smoke signals or jungle drums are. It&#039;s a distribution mechanism. 

The value of any information on it depends on its accuracy (determined case by case) and the  credibility of the originator (determined over time, and subject to fluctuation).

In this case, the facts are straightforward. TMZ (of which I was previously not aware) got the scoop, and had the confidence to publish it. Sky News, for one, went big early, crediting TMZ. (At this point, Twitter alerted many of us to the story.) Other mainstream media were more cautious, until the LAT &quot;confirmation&quot;. 

That&#039;s a big range of approaches, and I think all of them proved right in this case. We were able to look at many sources, and make our own interim judgments based on their previous credibility.

Other brief points:

1. Time of death is a red herring. Someone can be known to be dead long before a coroner is in the position to confirm it and put a minute on it.

2. TMZ does gain a lot of credibility, but that would be eroded or destroyed if it takes a punt in the future and gets something wrong.

3. As for TMZ not developing its &quot;one-fact&quot; story - there was, and perhaps still is, only one fact that matters - Michael Jackson was dead. Everything else was speculation and filler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the &#8220;either/or&#8221; dichotomy.  Twitter is not a &#8220;source&#8221;, any more than words on paper, the telegraph, smoke signals or jungle drums are. It&#8217;s a distribution mechanism. </p>
<p>The value of any information on it depends on its accuracy (determined case by case) and the  credibility of the originator (determined over time, and subject to fluctuation).</p>
<p>In this case, the facts are straightforward. TMZ (of which I was previously not aware) got the scoop, and had the confidence to publish it. Sky News, for one, went big early, crediting TMZ. (At this point, Twitter alerted many of us to the story.) Other mainstream media were more cautious, until the LAT &#8220;confirmation&#8221;. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a big range of approaches, and I think all of them proved right in this case. We were able to look at many sources, and make our own interim judgments based on their previous credibility.</p>
<p>Other brief points:</p>
<p>1. Time of death is a red herring. Someone can be known to be dead long before a coroner is in the position to confirm it and put a minute on it.</p>
<p>2. TMZ does gain a lot of credibility, but that would be eroded or destroyed if it takes a punt in the future and gets something wrong.</p>
<p>3. As for TMZ not developing its &#8220;one-fact&#8221; story &#8211; there was, and perhaps still is, only one fact that matters &#8211; Michael Jackson was dead. Everything else was speculation and filler.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-1/#comment-2825161</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares about who breaks it? I want the most accurate, credible, informative news story, not a headline generate by a room full of rumor-mongering sheeple. Be careful what you wish for, the old media might die, and then it is open season on unsubstantiated news...won&#039;t that be fun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares about who breaks it? I want the most accurate, credible, informative news story, not a headline generate by a room full of rumor-mongering sheeple. Be careful what you wish for, the old media might die, and then it is open season on unsubstantiated news&#8230;won&#8217;t that be fun?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jackson si Internetul dupa el - Blogu&#8217; lu&#8217; nebunu&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2825157</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jackson si Internetul dupa el - Blogu&#8217; lu&#8217; nebunu&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Jackson; - At its peak, Google Trends rated the Jackson story as &#8220;volcanic&#8221;; - TechCrunch reported that TMZ, which broke the story, had several outages; - CNN reported a fivefold rise in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1.

To me, the role Twitter played here is just a bunch of people crowding around a big screen TV waiting for the next update to the news story. Point is, Twitter would be nothing without the &quot;old media.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1.</p>
<p>To me, the role Twitter played here is just a bunch of people crowding around a big screen TV waiting for the next update to the news story. Point is, Twitter would be nothing without the &#8220;old media.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tribune got it right: La Times broke story by confirming its authenticity</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-1/#comment-2825116</link>
		<dc:creator>Tribune got it right: La Times broke story by confirming its authenticity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t disagree more strongly.  Once again--the facts get in the way of your story.

Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t disagree more strongly.  Once again&#8211;the facts get in the way of your story.</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-06-26 &#171; POPMODERNE</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2824986</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-06-26 &#171; POPMODERNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mainstream Media Still Has Eyes Wide Shut A look at how media, old and new alike, handle news reporting and distribution in this day and age (tags: media entertainment Twitter web2.0 journalism) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mainstream media will always be behind online - it is the nature of the business.  It&#039;s no wonder that more and more money is being moved to online.  http://www.slicefinder.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mainstream media will always be behind online &#8211; it is the nature of the business.  It&#8217;s no wonder that more and more money is being moved to online.  <a href="http://www.slicefinder.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.slicefinder.com'>http://www.slicefinder.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Will Seberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Seberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the time when there were multiple newspapers publishing multiple editions in the same city, daily, papers wanted to have news first to sell more papers.

Indeed, many &quot;breaking&quot; stories today are exactly of this MJ type.

Sure, the scope of his existence merited immediate coverage, but what is the real influence of all this?  How important is Michael Jackson or any celebrity in the grand scheme of things?

This is one of those cases where the rumor mill will always be faster than the press.

Conversely, Woodward and Bernstein &quot;broke&quot; Watergate through meticulous, years-long research and reporting.

Getting it right, at least the way I do the job, is vastly more important to getting it first.

The very best get it right and first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the time when there were multiple newspapers publishing multiple editions in the same city, daily, papers wanted to have news first to sell more papers.</p>
<p>Indeed, many &#8220;breaking&#8221; stories today are exactly of this MJ type.</p>
<p>Sure, the scope of his existence merited immediate coverage, but what is the real influence of all this?  How important is Michael Jackson or any celebrity in the grand scheme of things?</p>
<p>This is one of those cases where the rumor mill will always be faster than the press.</p>
<p>Conversely, Woodward and Bernstein &#8220;broke&#8221; Watergate through meticulous, years-long research and reporting.</p>
<p>Getting it right, at least the way I do the job, is vastly more important to getting it first.</p>
<p>The very best get it right and first.</p>
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		<title>By: WulfCry</title>
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		<dc:creator>WulfCry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video is like watching a neural network of tweets finding the most interesting neural tweet. 

Fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video is like watching a neural network of tweets finding the most interesting neural tweet. </p>
<p>Fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: GanaiteD &#187; MJ darma internetul ca ramas bun</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mainstream-media-still-has-eyes-wide-shut-proves-michael-jacksons-death-reporting/comment-page-2/#comment-2824320</link>
		<dc:creator>GanaiteD &#187; MJ darma internetul ca ramas bun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch arata si film emotionant despre efectul anuntarii mortii pe Twitter: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rb</title>
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		<dc:creator>rb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I believe Robin is wrong on what the Chicago Tribune wrote? Yes. I don&#039;t see anything the Tribune said wrong. They give a full picture by starting out acknowledging the &quot;gossip site&quot; was out front with the news, but that old media like the AP and Times provided the &quot;fastest, most &lt;i&gt;credible&lt;/i&gt;&quot; reporting. In terms of credibility only two people would qualify (at least the way I see it) the actual medic on scene or a reporter from a news source with pre-established credibility. The only way an non-established reporter could be credible is by having a viewable interview with the medic.

As for the &quot;coma&quot; reporting, technically that is not wrong. Definition of coma: a state of unconsciousness and unresponsiveness. Yes, being dead would yield the same thing, but at least this way the early reporting was safe based on the limited information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I believe Robin is wrong on what the Chicago Tribune wrote? Yes. I don&#8217;t see anything the Tribune said wrong. They give a full picture by starting out acknowledging the &#8220;gossip site&#8221; was out front with the news, but that old media like the AP and Times provided the &#8220;fastest, most <i>credible</i>&#8221; reporting. In terms of credibility only two people would qualify (at least the way I see it) the actual medic on scene or a reporter from a news source with pre-established credibility. The only way an non-established reporter could be credible is by having a viewable interview with the medic.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;coma&#8221; reporting, technically that is not wrong. Definition of coma: a state of unconsciousness and unresponsiveness. Yes, being dead would yield the same thing, but at least this way the early reporting was safe based on the limited information.</p>
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		<title>By: swagv</title>
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		<dc:creator>swagv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet MJ did not tweet. Which is more proof behind the theory that social media is what the little people do.

Well, that and Ashton Kutcher.</description>
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<p>Well, that and Ashton Kutcher.</p>
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		<title>By: cease</title>
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		<dc:creator>cease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>probably the most relevant point on here Karl.  Also people overlook the quality of details.  In 140 characters, there is no way you convey what can be written with a full news article, even if it is released hours after the incident.  I guarantee, people are reading more today at the standard news outlets for details, and not twitter.

Trying to push the importance of real time streams is getting a little ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probably the most relevant point on here Karl.  Also people overlook the quality of details.  In 140 characters, there is no way you convey what can be written with a full news article, even if it is released hours after the incident.  I guarantee, people are reading more today at the standard news outlets for details, and not twitter.</p>
<p>Trying to push the importance of real time streams is getting a little ridiculous.</p>
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