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By: Tesla Puts Another $82.5 Million In The Tank

Tesla Puts Another $82.5 Million In The Tank — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:17:35 +0000

[...] not disclosing the amount. Tesla has been on a roll recently. They announced profitability, secured $465 million in government loans to build their next car plant and raised another $50 million in equity from Daimler that valued the [...]

By: Tesla Snags YouTube Exec To Run Communications

Tesla Snags YouTube Exec To Run Communications — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:46:09 +0000

[...] has been on a roll recently. They announced profitability, secured $465 million in government loans to build their next car plant and raised another $50 million in equity from Daimler that valued the [...]

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Tesla Snags YouTube Exec To Run Communications | Cellphone Ultra — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:25:33 +0000

By: Tesla Says It Is Now Profitable, Ships 109 Roadsters In July | Trinitude Network

Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:55:59 +0000

[...] brought on by Tesla’s ousted co-founder Martin Eberhard. In June, Tesla was also awarded a $465 million loan from the Department of Energy, which will help it manufacture its more reasonably priced Modern S [...]

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Tesla Says It Is Now Profitable, Ships 109 Roadsters In July - BlogAngle — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 02:03:08 +0000

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By: Tesla Says It Is Now Profitable, Ships 109 Roadsters In July | Cellphone Ultra

Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:49:10 +0000

[...] on by Tesla’s ousted co-founder Martin Eberhard. In June, Tesla was additionally awarded a $465 million loan from the division of Energy, which will help it manufacture its more reasonably priced contemporary [...]

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By: Tesla Says It Is Now Profitable, Ships 109 Roadsters In July | Techdare

Tesla Says It Is Now Profitable, Ships 109 Roadsters In July | Techdare — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:16:34 +0000

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Tesla Says It Is Now Profitable, Ships 109 Roadsters In July — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:06:15 +0000

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:34:49 +0000

http://moneycen...xes/P148855.asp

Married, 2 kids
United States 11.9%
Canada 21.5%

15% sales tax, gas that costs twice as much due to a 55% fuel tax. If you want to import anything from another country because the cost of goods are too expensive here in the US because of the above policies, the tarrif will be no less than 35%.
The tax on small business owners and SCORPs will be about 60-75% total.

Life will become unbearable, the mafia will take hold like in Canada. The people in Louisiana will start to speak french again because of the mayhem, and then everyone will be completely FSCKED.

That is what’s coming if we continue GM, AIG, Tesla, ect….

Anybody that thinks Canada is a great place to live should actually go there. Canada is a dump and most people there would happily do anything, anything at all, to leave.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:25:29 +0000

It’s a real shame Tesla couldn’t get a loan, but that should have been the end of the company.

This artificial cloud is going to dissipate and they’re going to fall hard to the ground.

The government needs to stay out of it. Otherwise it’s not America anymore, it’s Russia.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:22:48 +0000

wrong, tax money should stay in the pockets of people.

No person should be subjugated to fund a private enterprise, without so much as a vote.

NO ONE voted for this. Pretty soon we’ll have a Queen of America again and we’ll be as downtrodden as the people to the north of us riddled with corruption and the Sicilian mafia.

By: tim

tim — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:47:13 +0000

umm, model s is a family car and costs ~50k.

By: Mr. Non-Bureaucrat

Mr. Non-Bureaucrat — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:22:12 +0000

Yes Chris, this amounts to picking winners and losers, and all too often the tilt is toward the loss side. Bureaucrats become enamored with personas, or technologies and they get sucked into supporting a train that really has no wheels. Add in the political ‘requirements’ to get guvment money and you know . . .

By: Joel N. Weber II

Joel N. Weber II — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:43:16 +0000

Coal plants don’t change output power instantly. Tesla’s cars will probably be charged mostly using power that coal plants are producing at night that currently goes unused because shutting down a coal plant at night and then starting it up again the next morning just doesn’t work.

Additionally, Tesla’s cars will transition to clean energy as our electric generating capacity is transitioned.

Given that lithium is potentially in short supply, I doubt people will be any more likely to dispose of those car batteries as trash than they would be to get rid of unwanted gold jewelry via the trash. I suspect recyclers will pay hundreds if not thousands for a used battery pack from any of Tesla’s cars.

By: pwb

pwb — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:00:49 +0000

“One of the better uses of the bailout money”

It’s not bailout money. But I would agree that it’s one of the better uses of tax dollars.

By: pwb

pwb — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:03:04 +0000

Someone with a brain on these boards.

By: pwb

pwb — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:57:58 +0000

It’s a slippery slope but reflects that it is important for the USA to reduce its dependence on Middle Eastern oil. Gas prices currently don’t even begin to cover the military cost of supporting this dependence.

By: Miz

Miz — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:23:52 +0000

Rory, put your money where your mouth is at. You have no clue what the future brings for Tesla. They claim that their next car will be $60K, that is not in stone yet. They could run into unexpected obsticles for all we know and sell the Model S for $80K. If you think that anyone can afford $30K cars – then you are in another universe. People are getting their cars, homes and more taken away from them in the middle of the night because they can’t afford their payments. Whomever believes that giving the auto makers more money right now is good is a true and utter moron. You obviously know nothing about the stock market and how this effects it and has been for the last year and a half. Slap Slap – you need to be brought back to earth my friend because our government can’t even afford the money they are handing out right now. Wake up people, we are going to be run by the Republic of China within the next 10 years if we keep this up.

By: aj

aj — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:40:40 +0000

Tesla has now failed as a private enterprise. There is no way around this. It might succeed as a subsidized organization, but it cannot now *ever* succeed as a private business. Tesla is not a Google, an Apple, or in any way comparable to a successful privately-funded company. Driving a Tesla is about as cool as serving government cheese at a wine tasting.