We’ve heard the phrase ‘reinventing the web’ too many times already, so we’re wary of Opera’s claims, but this made us curious anyhow. The browser maker has just unveiled Opera 10 in beta, so it could be taking the wraps off the product and taking it public rather quickly. Or it could be something entirely different.
Opera users don’t seem to know what’s going on either.
We’ve asked the company for clarity, although we don’t expect a clarifying response at all. We’ll just have to wait until June 16th; everyone can stop doing whatever it is they are doing on the current Web for now until Opera is ready with the new version. 
In the meantime, anyone care to venture a guess?
And no, it’s likely not the Internet on a stick.
i don’t think they’ve done anything yet.
Their message clearly says they’ll do the reinventing on june 16th.
@dna – haha good one
Maybe Opera wants to improve its render of Web videos. I’ve never used Opera and heard it’s quite dominant in Europe. As it is not so popular, I don’t expect much from what it will do in “reinventing the Web.”
It may not be the most popular browser, but you can’t deny their influence on the browser. Most features you take for granted in modern browser were first introduced by Opera
they were first introduced to the main public by opera. most of those features were already present in browsers with even less market share (>0.1%)
Did they check with Al Gore first? That would only be polite if they are going to make any changes to his invention.
Are you kidding?! – Al Gore is doing the PowerPoint presentation for him. He has already reserved two cherry pickers to help get his point across.
he is also making a multibillion dollar charity and multiple start ups to help *cough*himself *cough* (he didn’t get richer doing nothing)
No one thinks you’re funny. Please stop wasting everyone’s time with your lame jokes. Try adding something constructive to the conversation instead.
I actually thought that was pretty funny.
I didn’t.
I did.
Funny to a 14 year old.
I chuckled too.
You mean like you just did?
I thought it was funny too.
I think this is a publicity stunt.But they are really upto something would appreciate it very much
ya think.
Check their source code… For some older quotes, see favbrowser
Yeah they keep adding more words to the source code on a daily basis, but it doesn’t make one wiser.
The internet on a stick’s already been done: http://images.g...dband+usb+modem
Wow! Never heard about this exciting technology before… what year is it again?
you are smart dude..
I think you mean “wary”, not “weary” of Opera’s claims. You are made wary of Opera’s claims because your are weary of hearing the phrase ‘reinventing the web’.
Doh, thanks. Changed it.
Going open source? I don’t see how that will reinvent the web – themselves, yes. the web, not so much – but this was my first thought when i read opera dot com slash freedom.
My guess is that they’re adding support for the HTML 7 standard.
I think they have implemented a feature of storing cache of your browsing history and personal information in a folder on your hard disk, and you will be able to take a copy of that folder on your USB and you will be able to use opera on any other computer as you were on your own computer.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to just store it online instead? I reckon Maxthon has been doing this for years (although I could be mistaken).
actually yes, but it will be hard to immediately download tens of megabytes of data (or even more). May be they let you have your data on usb and synchronize it to the cloud.
Opera already has this
Its called Opera Link : http://link.opera.com/
Yes, Opera already has Opera Link for syncing. But it only syncs certain things, like bookmarks, speed dial, etc. It would be nice if it could sync ALL settings, like currently open tabs, skin, etc. I would anticipate that this would be cloud-based as even though it might be 10’s of megabytes of data, only the first sync would be long as the following syncs would be incremental. However, a USB key option would be nice for those settings that are a bit more consistent.
You seriously think this is what they’re going to do? What a non-story that would be. Plus, it already exists anyways.
On September 13, 2010, I will reinvent what it means to comment on a post about a company reinventing the web. Stay tuned.
I rarely laugh out loud… but this little one was priceless. Thanks Robin.
“everyone can stop doing whatever it is they are doing on the current Web for now until Opera is ready with the new version.”
Opera/Chrome/Safari/Firefox/IE ????????
Initially I was hesitant to use any browser other than firefox but after using the current version of Chrome, I can say I love the speed with which it load a website (specially websites which depends on heavy javascript).
Don’t be surprised.
opera has done this before,with speed dial hype.
Opera is fantastic,In terms of innovations in browser space,Opera is far ahead of anyone ,no one is even close.
Pity that doesn’t realy translate into market share on desktop.That paid browser thingy years ago hurt them bad,i think.
(Hint) probably the innovation isn’t all that hot as you want to believe it is. Market proliferation of alternative browsers may suggest that Opera isn’t that far ahead
Opera was first with many functions that we today take for granted (tabs for example). Just because everyone copies Opera, it doesn’t mean that they don’t innovate.
And for the few who did use tabs, they are now being rethought because they are useless with modern numbers of open pages.
Note, only a few did use tabs. Millions of tech heads vs hundreds of millions of average users who do not want yet another level of complexity to their UI. Not all tech heads used them either. I preferred the dock. The dock on OSX works like tabs but in a graphical form, and it auto hides when I am not accessing it. I am sure Windows has a similar solution, so why have what is in effect two or more lots of page docks?
I haven’t heard of anyone, including Opera including my one must have feature. A block or ban domain list. If I do not want to be tricked for a second/third or fourth time into following a link, I can put the domain onto a block list greying out any future offending links.
If the Firefox team were more open to suggestions, this feature would already be in Firefox (many years ago actually). Don’t get me wrong, I love firefox, but as with most open source communities, they have a brick wall surrounding the development team so suggestions do not get through.
The “few” who use tabs? Useless with numbers of open pages? Do you open a new browser instance with every new location?
Anyway, Opera was the only browser that actually allowed true caching of web pages correctly for years. I could not have survived on my dialup connection without it.
Bunny — Opera has this: Preferences -> Advanced -> Content -> Blocked Content…
As for feature speculation, from the hints in the source code of the Opera Freedom page, my guess would be P2P web hosting. Sort of like BitTorrent but for websites instead of files.
Opera already has BitTorrent built-in, and they’re good at caching. Opera could offer free or cheap seed hosting, and you wouldn’t have to pay a lot for server bandwidth.
They could even let you trade local space for online space à la Wuala.
From the implications of the word ‘freedom’ in the URL and the use of clouds in the logo I am expecting it to be cloud storage service. Perhaps one that syncs anything, everything, and always?
I think so too
O-Phone
From the page source:
“We start our little story with the invention of the modern day computer.
Over the years, the computers grew in numbers, and the next natural step in the evolution was to connect them together. To share things … “
I don’t know if oyu left off a line by accident or if they just added another one:
“But as these little networks grew, some computers gained more power than the rest and called themselves servers …”
What is this, like P2P browsing or some crap?
and yet they wont get any real attention for it. I really don’t get it. Opera should have as much market share as firefox. Hell its a better browser, it just doesnt have extensions
“it just doesnt have extensions”
That pretty much sums it up in my opinion.
Opera’s extensions are called widgets.
Overhyped Firefox’ extensions are not even supported, and you need to get your extensions for functionality that is in Opera (e.g. AdBlock)
Simple. They’ll add a clock radio to the browser.
my guess is a 3d web browser.
I was thinking along those lines, too. But what good is a 3D interface with 2D websites? :eh:
Opera, Will be like flock.com browser it will be very social based.
you will be able to be logged into many profiles, Though the browser will still function smooth.
Page speed
Might have something on there like Yslow to tell you your browser capabilities and speed ect. performance ways to improve performance.
Security
It also will have a safer restriction like a antivirus from a browser. They can scans keyworks and files to tell you if anything is a threat on a webpage.
webcalendar
also will have its own inbuilt calendar. So you can save all in your browser take notes of any site that you have gone to. This will also show you the time and date that you visted the webpage. but in a simple calendar version. It would also tell you what you downloaded from that specific webpage.
You can also expect to be an iphone browser capabilities that sync your browser capabilites to your home or office pc.
Funny… I don’t believe them ! lol
Tall claim. Reinvention, that is Wave territory.
Reading kevin lewis comment I also looked at the source code and found
“The Web is your browser. Discover how fast and fun the Web can be.”
How can the web be my browser… makes me think.
The media is the message. That’s nothing original.
It is will be a new Widgets platform. They are making a JIL implementation for Voda. So app store and JS device integration with web runtime-based widgets.
Source update:
I hope this is something useful or interesting…
There’s a message hidden in the HTML source code
Comment text doesn’t like HTML comment tags. Here’s the message:
We start our little story with the invention of the modern day computer.
Over the years, the computers grew in numbers, and the next natural step in the evolution was to connect them together. To share things.
But as these little networks grew, some computers gained more power than the rest and called themselves servers …
… then the computers, envious of the power of server started a rebellion against the servers and so began the first machine war ever
sounds like SkyNet, the evil computer in Terminator. Maybe it’s a cloud computing capabilities or br201 comments below seems interesting
I guess they would roll out something along the lines of Google Chrome: web browser/desktop hybrid or something along these lines.
It has to be a new widgets platform based around bleeding edge W3C standards (that Opera lead) and existing tech like HTML, CSS and JS.
Unlike existing widgets, which are nowhere near as well designed as the new standards, they will be entirely future-proof, just like HTML 4 > 5 > etc, and a single widget will be capable of running across all your devices – PC, mobile, erm…your watch… (via css media tag manipulations to fit the given display).
And yes, it’s going to be very standards based and very big for end consumers.
…that’s my impression from spending way too much time with Opera tech guys over the last few weeks.
Maybe they wrote a new operating system.
Don’t you mean OPERAting system?
This is basically what I was thinking, an OS that’s just a browser. You won’t need programs because they’ll all be in the cloud, hence the picture on the page.
I’ve been waiting for entanglement-assisted quantum teleportation features. It would be great if they finally figured that out.
Just do a patent search
http://www.scri...ortation-system
How about a site/ria that acts as a browser with history etc stored in the cloud.
You have freedom because you can use this browser via any other browser (chrome, ie, firefox etc probably switching to fullscreen) on any machine i.e. freedom to browse and the web is your browser kind of makes sense from that perspective.
It would be different and would mean anyone could use it/try it without having to install anything.
Thoughts?
sweet!
Meh.
Companies that litigate first, innovate later are also-rans.
Well, if you were a bit less ignorant you’d realize Opera actually pioneered many of the features that Microsoft and Mozilla rolled into their own browsers, years earlier.
The little lightning sign makes it clear.
Guitar Hero AC/DC will be launching exclusively on Opera, making it defacto the latest gaming console out there, with built-in Opera App Store.
This just in from Opera HQ:
“After we’re done reinventing the web our next step is to reinvent the wheel. We will also be introducing a new concept called bicycle. Stay tuned”.
I m confused. What version of the web are we running on now?
my strategy of repeatedly seraching for opera+usb via opera itself finally pays off….
Heh, from their press release for 10 beta:
“Opera today released the first beta of Opera 10, the newest version of the company’s industry-defining Web browser.”
Right… a browser with 1% market share is industry defining? Me no think so.
5% actually (double that of Safari)
Let me guess: “On June 16th, the governments of EU and China will decide that the web cannot be free anymore. In order to mercilessly punish evil forces (think Redmonster, etc.) and keep the web of in-pure contents, Opera 10 has been officially selected as the mandatory web browser for all Windows machines. All users in EU and China will get the state of the art, well tested, cure all, Opera 10 for free for one whole year. After one year, a small donation of 10 euro/year is required to help Opera continue to mercilessly punish evil forces (think googmonster and applewarm) that may emerge in the future. O, the web is reinvented … let us rejoice, … and dance around our dear leader …)
There are two clues on the /freedom site. The first is the imagery they are using (clouds) and the second is the comment in the HTML.
If you take a step back and look at the evolution of the social web, our content is fast becoming an integral part of the web, and our content is stored on devices – mainly laptops and phones.
Now imagine that your device, rather than being a consumer of the web and having to explicitly push data up to the web, becomes PART OF the web.
I think that Opera may just create a P2P web that easily allows you to share your content with anyone or on any site. Your device effectively becomes a web site.
Maybe.
It will be web-based.
The first meta-browser! Then you could use opera even in ie6!
Think Google Gears in the cloud.
They will be launching a new open source mobile browser with cloud storage
What would make the Internet different for web developers would be having one less browser to support. Maybe they’re going out of business?
Robin: thanks for the update. I think you are referring to their top-secret Metropolitan project.
Best Wishes.
Skynet will be activated.
Defenses will go down.
Cylons will invade.
Humanity will be enslaved.
One will submit to the machines.
You will join the Borg.
Here’s my take: From all the hints, I think, Opera wants anyone to be able to run his web site off his own computer, not needing a separate remote web server anymore. I wonder how this would work, though, as there are many technical barriers…
You can already do that easily by installing IIS or Apache.
It wouldn’t work at all, because it would require your computer to be turned on and connected to the internet at all times, with a fast connection. That’s not practical for a lot of people. The security angle is not good, either.
@XXX: Opera’s VP of consumer engineering is named Borg: http://my.opera...com/borg/about/
“@XXX: Opera’s VP of consumer engineering is named Borg: http://my.opera...com/borg/about/”
Holy Frak-a-moly!
That was quite an interesting coincidence and an odd — A VERY ODD — factoid.
Prepare to fight against assimilation, everybody!
This is not a drill!!
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You will not take us alive, Johan of Borg!
It’s likely to have something to do with html 5
People don’t use Opera because it’s name is REALLY dumb.
come again? try thinking in other languages from time to time..