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	<title>Comments on: Holocaust Museum Death Won&#8217;t Change Facebook&#8217;s Mind On Hate &#8211; But Advertisers May Be Able To</title>
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		<title>By: Joe V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joe V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Comment 1 of 3)

The &quot;holocaust&quot; did occur, to an extent. But the figure of 6 million Jews is arbitrary and completely false.

The fact is that there were countless Jews who died in internment camps, but the myth that these camps used gas chambers to kill millions of Jews is that, a myth.

The camps were not designed as ways of killing people, there are far, far, easier ways of killing people quickly.

The fact that the Germans even had investigators who examined cases of prisoner abuse should be evidence of this. 

Two concentration camp commanders were executed for the murder of no more than four Jewish prisoners.

Why, if these camps were indeed &quot;death camps&quot;, would they execute high ranking officials for killing Jews if that is the purpose of these Camps?

One of these men was Judge Konrad Morgen, who sentenced many SS officers to death for their abuse of Jewish prisoners.

You can look up Morgen on Wikipedia if you do not believe this claim.</description>
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<p>The &#8220;holocaust&#8221; did occur, to an extent. But the figure of 6 million Jews is arbitrary and completely false.</p>
<p>The fact is that there were countless Jews who died in internment camps, but the myth that these camps used gas chambers to kill millions of Jews is that, a myth.</p>
<p>The camps were not designed as ways of killing people, there are far, far, easier ways of killing people quickly.</p>
<p>The fact that the Germans even had investigators who examined cases of prisoner abuse should be evidence of this. </p>
<p>Two concentration camp commanders were executed for the murder of no more than four Jewish prisoners.</p>
<p>Why, if these camps were indeed &#8220;death camps&#8221;, would they execute high ranking officials for killing Jews if that is the purpose of these Camps?</p>
<p>One of these men was Judge Konrad Morgen, who sentenced many SS officers to death for their abuse of Jewish prisoners.</p>
<p>You can look up Morgen on Wikipedia if you do not believe this claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Comment 1 of 2)

The &quot;holocaust&quot; did occur, to an extent. But the figure of 6 million Jews is arbitrary and completely false.

The fact is that there were countless Jews who died in internment camps, but the myth that these camps used gas chambers to kill millions of Jews is that, a myth.

The camps were not designed as ways of killing people, there are far, far, easier ways of killing people quickly.

The fact that the Germans even had investigators who examined cases of prisoner abuse should be evidence of this. 

Two concentration camp commanders were executed for the murder of no more than four Jewish prisoners.

Why, if these camps were indeed &quot;death camps&quot;, would they execute high ranking officials for killing Jews if that is the purpose of these Camps?

One of these men was Judge Konrad Morgen, who sentenced many SS officers to death for their abuse of Jewish prisoners.

You can look up Morgen on Wikipedia if you do not believe this claim.

I take extreme offense at the classification of anyone taking a critical view of the Holocaust as guilty of &quot;Hate Speech&quot; or racism.

I only care about the truth, I am the type of person who when I hear a politician saying something, and it is accepted by everyone without examination, I become compelled to verify the accuracy of such a claim.

The holocaust is one of the most damning portrayals of human atrocity; with such powerful sentiment being told to us since kindergarden, I felt it important to listen to the criticisms of some of these alleged &quot;racists&quot; and &quot;hate speech&quot; speakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Comment 1 of 2)</p>
<p>The &#8220;holocaust&#8221; did occur, to an extent. But the figure of 6 million Jews is arbitrary and completely false.</p>
<p>The fact is that there were countless Jews who died in internment camps, but the myth that these camps used gas chambers to kill millions of Jews is that, a myth.</p>
<p>The camps were not designed as ways of killing people, there are far, far, easier ways of killing people quickly.</p>
<p>The fact that the Germans even had investigators who examined cases of prisoner abuse should be evidence of this. </p>
<p>Two concentration camp commanders were executed for the murder of no more than four Jewish prisoners.</p>
<p>Why, if these camps were indeed &#8220;death camps&#8221;, would they execute high ranking officials for killing Jews if that is the purpose of these Camps?</p>
<p>One of these men was Judge Konrad Morgen, who sentenced many SS officers to death for their abuse of Jewish prisoners.</p>
<p>You can look up Morgen on Wikipedia if you do not believe this claim.</p>
<p>I take extreme offense at the classification of anyone taking a critical view of the Holocaust as guilty of &#8220;Hate Speech&#8221; or racism.</p>
<p>I only care about the truth, I am the type of person who when I hear a politician saying something, and it is accepted by everyone without examination, I become compelled to verify the accuracy of such a claim.</p>
<p>The holocaust is one of the most damning portrayals of human atrocity; with such powerful sentiment being told to us since kindergarden, I felt it important to listen to the criticisms of some of these alleged &#8220;racists&#8221; and &#8220;hate speech&#8221; speakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;holocaust&quot; did occur, to an extent. But the figure of 6 million Jews is arbitrary and completely false.

The fact is that there were countless Jews who died in internment camps, but the myth that these camps used gas chambers to kill millions of Jews is that, a myth.

The camps were not designed as ways of killing people, there are far, far, easier ways of killing people quickly.

The fact that the Germans even had investigators who examined cases of prisoner abuse should be evidence of this. 

Two concentration camp commanders were executed for the murder of no more than four Jewish prisoners.

Why, if these camps were indeed &quot;death camps&quot;, would they execute high ranking officials for killing Jews if that is the purpose of these Camps?

One of these men was Judge Konrad Morgen, who sentenced many SS officers to death for their abuse of Jewish prisoners.

You can look up Morgen on Wikipedia if you do not believe this claim.

I take extreme offense at the classification of anyone taking a critical view of the Holocaust as guilty of &quot;Hate Speech&quot; or racism.

I only care about the truth, I am the type of person who when I hear a politician saying something, and it is accepted by everyone without examination, I become compelled to verify the accuracy of such a claim.

The holocaust is one of the most damning portrayals of human atrocity; with such powerful sentiment being told to us since kindergarden, I felt it important to listen to the criticisms of some of these alleged &quot;racists&quot; and &quot;hate speech&quot; speakers.

There IS an overwhelming amount of evidence that countless Jews, and other miniorities, died at the hands of Nazi captors.

There is NOT real evidence that they ever used &quot;death camps&quot; or gas chambers to kill these prisoners. In fact if you examine the issue, and are willing to hear the other sides points, it is hard to disagree with what they have to say.

The best Holocaust Revisionist Documentary series was created by a JEWISH holocaust revisionist. David Cole, was a man who despite his heritage and indoctrination, valued the truth more than what other people thought of him.

If you wish to watch the factual analysis of Auschwitz, where he interviews the museum curator of the former camp and gives point by point breakdowns of lies and tricks used to exploit human emotions,  please view this excellent documentary by the Jewish film-maker:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=976870941610001004&amp;ei=C-dlSrfFDaXmqAL3-8DTCQ&amp;q=david+cole+holohoax&amp;hl=en


Anyways, I am not a racist, nor a hateful person. I simply seek the truth, and I take a critical view of any extraordinary claim.

I thought since childhood that of course everything I had heard about the holocaust was accurate, certainly all my teachers, textbooks, and television were not going off close to zero factual evidence. But they were; most of their evidence came in the form of anecdotal stories from a select number of eye-witnesses. Eye-witnesses are usually an unacceptable form of proof in science as they are notoriously biased and inaccurate.

When a friend of mine told me about a Jewish film maker who campaigned for open discussion of the holocaust, I said what the hell, I&#039;ll see what he has to say.

(By the way, the &quot;hate speech&quot; revisionist Jew, David Cole, has he and his families life threatened, was assaulted, and forced to sign a letter saying he only produced his documentaries out of self hate and because he was unintelligent. It&#039;s sad that you can;t even have a differing opinion without REAL HATE being directed at you)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;holocaust&#8221; did occur, to an extent. But the figure of 6 million Jews is arbitrary and completely false.</p>
<p>The fact is that there were countless Jews who died in internment camps, but the myth that these camps used gas chambers to kill millions of Jews is that, a myth.</p>
<p>The camps were not designed as ways of killing people, there are far, far, easier ways of killing people quickly.</p>
<p>The fact that the Germans even had investigators who examined cases of prisoner abuse should be evidence of this. </p>
<p>Two concentration camp commanders were executed for the murder of no more than four Jewish prisoners.</p>
<p>Why, if these camps were indeed &#8220;death camps&#8221;, would they execute high ranking officials for killing Jews if that is the purpose of these Camps?</p>
<p>One of these men was Judge Konrad Morgen, who sentenced many SS officers to death for their abuse of Jewish prisoners.</p>
<p>You can look up Morgen on Wikipedia if you do not believe this claim.</p>
<p>I take extreme offense at the classification of anyone taking a critical view of the Holocaust as guilty of &#8220;Hate Speech&#8221; or racism.</p>
<p>I only care about the truth, I am the type of person who when I hear a politician saying something, and it is accepted by everyone without examination, I become compelled to verify the accuracy of such a claim.</p>
<p>The holocaust is one of the most damning portrayals of human atrocity; with such powerful sentiment being told to us since kindergarden, I felt it important to listen to the criticisms of some of these alleged &#8220;racists&#8221; and &#8220;hate speech&#8221; speakers.</p>
<p>There IS an overwhelming amount of evidence that countless Jews, and other miniorities, died at the hands of Nazi captors.</p>
<p>There is NOT real evidence that they ever used &#8220;death camps&#8221; or gas chambers to kill these prisoners. In fact if you examine the issue, and are willing to hear the other sides points, it is hard to disagree with what they have to say.</p>
<p>The best Holocaust Revisionist Documentary series was created by a JEWISH holocaust revisionist. David Cole, was a man who despite his heritage and indoctrination, valued the truth more than what other people thought of him.</p>
<p>If you wish to watch the factual analysis of Auschwitz, where he interviews the museum curator of the former camp and gives point by point breakdowns of lies and tricks used to exploit human emotions,  please view this excellent documentary by the Jewish film-maker:</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=976870941610001004&amp;ei=C-dlSrfFDaXmqAL3-8DTCQ&amp;q=david+cole+holohoax&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=976870941610001004&amp;ei=C-dlSrfFDaXmqAL3-8DTCQ&amp;q=david+cole+holohoax&amp;hl=en'>http://video.go...ohoax&amp;hl=en</a></p>
<p>Anyways, I am not a racist, nor a hateful person. I simply seek the truth, and I take a critical view of any extraordinary claim.</p>
<p>I thought since childhood that of course everything I had heard about the holocaust was accurate, certainly all my teachers, textbooks, and television were not going off close to zero factual evidence. But they were; most of their evidence came in the form of anecdotal stories from a select number of eye-witnesses. Eye-witnesses are usually an unacceptable form of proof in science as they are notoriously biased and inaccurate.</p>
<p>When a friend of mine told me about a Jewish film maker who campaigned for open discussion of the holocaust, I said what the hell, I&#8217;ll see what he has to say.</p>
<p>(By the way, the &#8220;hate speech&#8221; revisionist Jew, David Cole, has he and his families life threatened, was assaulted, and forced to sign a letter saying he only produced his documentaries out of self hate and because he was unintelligent. It&#8217;s sad that you can;t even have a differing opinion without REAL HATE being directed at you)</p>
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		<title>By: Noah David Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah David Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.seesmic.com/video/G7G3ZeV8UC if the person who quoted Chomsky had read anything about Chomsky they would know there isn&#039;t anything systematic about language according to the axioms of Chomsky.  Language doesn&#039;t have meaning through systematic method. you can&#039;t prove or disprove semiotics. it is simply understood. to be so obtuse and dry as to pretend that meaning is a mathematical science because you quote Chomsky is an immediate sign of bias.  I have asked facebook to be true to free speech for years now. Now I am humbly asking them to at least to be socially responsible with their supposed &quot;discretion&quot;. the fact that they are neither and are in conflict with their own terms is a good argument for AntiTrust laws to be used. I disagree with the expansive mindset of facebook, but the argument is that they are supposedly creating a better environment for communication. enabling hate speech is in conflict with their own arguments. I happen to disagree with their claim that they can censor, but now it seems even their censorship is random and hate based.   we would love for facebook to have free speech! what we have instead is populism. facebook caters to the tyranny of the mob. that isn&#039;t freedom. What has happened is Holocaust denial has become hip enough that facebook is allowing it. In the same respect nudity has become culturally taboo in a majority of circles and therefor facebook censors it. In the same respect Jewish Conservative groups go down all the time. for crying out loud! how is this free speech? if facebook wants to enact a policy of free speech I would support it, but if they are not then it is the users interest to influence facebook into responsible behavior. I was on the forefront of Cyber freedom in 1995 when I was a student at Carnegie Mellon University and we battled Marty Rimm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Rimm 

Throw Robert Scoble off of facebook for hacking the system and he gets to meet with Zuckerberg, but they censor people all the time. the Holocaust denial is just the tip of the iceberg. you get close enough to the SXSW crowd of cowards and traitors and you can do anything on facebook that you want. there is a double standard when it comes to expression. if you hate America&#039;s troops then you have free reign to speak here, but Conservatives they bully. If you support Israel then you are immediately suspect.

 I am disappointed that I have not seen any of the people here who claim to be invoking free speech ideas in relation to protecting violence elaborate any of their thoughts on why one is acceptable, but the expression of the body is somehow not?  facebook how is this free speech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.seesmic.com/video/G7G3ZeV8UC" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.seesmic.com/video/G7G3ZeV8UC'>http://www.sees...ideo/G7G3ZeV8UC</a> if the person who quoted Chomsky had read anything about Chomsky they would know there isn&#8217;t anything systematic about language according to the axioms of Chomsky.  Language doesn&#8217;t have meaning through systematic method. you can&#8217;t prove or disprove semiotics. it is simply understood. to be so obtuse and dry as to pretend that meaning is a mathematical science because you quote Chomsky is an immediate sign of bias.  I have asked facebook to be true to free speech for years now. Now I am humbly asking them to at least to be socially responsible with their supposed &#8220;discretion&#8221;. the fact that they are neither and are in conflict with their own terms is a good argument for AntiTrust laws to be used. I disagree with the expansive mindset of facebook, but the argument is that they are supposedly creating a better environment for communication. enabling hate speech is in conflict with their own arguments. I happen to disagree with their claim that they can censor, but now it seems even their censorship is random and hate based.   we would love for facebook to have free speech! what we have instead is populism. facebook caters to the tyranny of the mob. that isn&#8217;t freedom. What has happened is Holocaust denial has become hip enough that facebook is allowing it. In the same respect nudity has become culturally taboo in a majority of circles and therefor facebook censors it. In the same respect Jewish Conservative groups go down all the time. for crying out loud! how is this free speech? if facebook wants to enact a policy of free speech I would support it, but if they are not then it is the users interest to influence facebook into responsible behavior. I was on the forefront of Cyber freedom in 1995 when I was a student at Carnegie Mellon University and we battled Marty Rimm <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Rimm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Rimm'>http://en.wikip...wiki/Marty_Rimm</a> </p>
<p>Throw Robert Scoble off of facebook for hacking the system and he gets to meet with Zuckerberg, but they censor people all the time. the Holocaust denial is just the tip of the iceberg. you get close enough to the SXSW crowd of cowards and traitors and you can do anything on facebook that you want. there is a double standard when it comes to expression. if you hate America&#8217;s troops then you have free reign to speak here, but Conservatives they bully. If you support Israel then you are immediately suspect.</p>
<p> I am disappointed that I have not seen any of the people here who claim to be invoking free speech ideas in relation to protecting violence elaborate any of their thoughts on why one is acceptable, but the expression of the body is somehow not?  facebook how is this free speech?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know if this will get picked up so long after the  post, but YouTube is rampant in its anti-Semitic banter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPpEQuatcTU&amp;feature=quicklist  Read the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if this will get picked up so long after the  post, but YouTube is rampant in its anti-Semitic banter. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPpEQuatcTU&amp;feature=quicklist" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPpEQuatcTU&amp;feature=quicklist'>http://www.yout...ature=quicklist</a>  Read the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Adolfus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adolfus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you lot are an absoloute joke. how is holocaust denial anti-semetic? if someone doesn&#039;t believe the holocaust happened the way we&#039;re told it happened then why does that mean they hate jews? holocaust denial isn&#039;t illegal in every single country. why is no-one doing anything to bring an end to islamaphobia? there are many fuck islam groups and many books which target the muslim world. but noooo the jews get all the protection. &quot;oh ur people suffered during WW2, here lets make these lot suffer now, we&#039;ll give u their land so u are always protected&quot;. PATHETIC. if i chose to be a holocaust denier, i will deny it all i want!

if it was illegal in every country then it would be deleted. but at the end of the day the UK allows it, i am a british citizen so let me put my view out there...I AM A HOLOCAUST DENIER! :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you lot are an absoloute joke. how is holocaust denial anti-semetic? if someone doesn&#8217;t believe the holocaust happened the way we&#8217;re told it happened then why does that mean they hate jews? holocaust denial isn&#8217;t illegal in every single country. why is no-one doing anything to bring an end to islamaphobia? there are many fuck islam groups and many books which target the muslim world. but noooo the jews get all the protection. &#8220;oh ur people suffered during WW2, here lets make these lot suffer now, we&#8217;ll give u their land so u are always protected&#8221;. PATHETIC. if i chose to be a holocaust denier, i will deny it all i want!</p>
<p>if it was illegal in every country then it would be deleted. but at the end of the day the UK allows it, i am a british citizen so let me put my view out there&#8230;I AM A HOLOCAUST DENIER! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Noah David Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah David Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holocaust denial is a threat everywhere.  It is a threat in Norway http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/06/norways-state-sponsored-antisemitism.html like it is in Poland and Germany.  there are no exceptions.  If facebook wants to have free speech then I would support it.  that is not the claim of facebook.  facebook censors everyday.  they just choose what they want to censor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holocaust denial is a threat everywhere.  It is a threat in Norway <a href="http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/06/norways-state-sponsored-antisemitism.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/06/norways-state-sponsored-antisemitism.html'>http://yidwithl...tisemitism.html</a> like it is in Poland and Germany.  there are no exceptions.  If facebook wants to have free speech then I would support it.  that is not the claim of facebook.  facebook censors everyday.  they just choose what they want to censor.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am usually very much against censorship, but in certain cases I believe it to be a good thing. I am from Austria, and just like Germany, we commited a lot of the worst crimes in histrory. Because of the events that happened in Austria and Germany in history, Austria has a law called the &quot;Wiederbetaetigungsgesetz&quot;. basically every person has the right of speech, BUT, if he openly denies the holocaust, distributes Nazi propaganda or has a swastika, there is a heavy fine and or jail time. This has been a law since over 50 years, and there have been no other forms of cencorship enforced since and the countrz is very liberal about everzthing else, although there is a tendency to push for higher penalties on hate crimes (which I think is good). In either case, this shows that there is a line that can be set between the freedom of speech and the censorship that are well defined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am usually very much against censorship, but in certain cases I believe it to be a good thing. I am from Austria, and just like Germany, we commited a lot of the worst crimes in histrory. Because of the events that happened in Austria and Germany in history, Austria has a law called the &#8220;Wiederbetaetigungsgesetz&#8221;. basically every person has the right of speech, BUT, if he openly denies the holocaust, distributes Nazi propaganda or has a swastika, there is a heavy fine and or jail time. This has been a law since over 50 years, and there have been no other forms of cencorship enforced since and the countrz is very liberal about everzthing else, although there is a tendency to push for higher penalties on hate crimes (which I think is good). In either case, this shows that there is a line that can be set between the freedom of speech and the censorship that are well defined.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allowing free speech on the Facebook platform makes sense. It’s descriptive of the opinions in our world. It’s incredible, for example, to wonder about the populist insurgency in Iran and search Facebook for groups as a barometer of the region and for an actual connection to the people. I agree with the point made that if you suppress anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial, it will spring up in other forums on the Internet (which may--to the detriment of human rights groups--be harder to monitor). 

But people like Dave Willner should not be the authority on what content should be classified as hateful and what poses a threat to the Jewish people. After all, what makes something hateful or threatening? If it affects my physical well-being, is it threatening? Yes. If it affects my psychological well-being? The answer could easily be “yes.”

But for you, Dave, to suggest that Holocaust denial is not threatening is out of your expertise and out of your control. A Holocaust denial group in the U.S. might be all talk, but how about one in Poland? Is it so unlikely that a Facebook group could spur a real life organization of boys who assault Jews, burn down synagogues or deface cemeteries? At what point in the group&#039;s evolution would you pull the plug on it? More importantly, does Facebook even have the infrastructure to deal with such a mass of potentially hateful groups on a day-to-day basis? How many Polish speaking group monitors do you employ? 

Point is, without a semantic analysis system that can identify sentiment and intention, you won’t be able to identify actionable information. Instead, you are left with a choice of allowing all speech, or creating a rule that says that Holocaust denial groups have a statistically higher chance of spurring real-life hate or online abuse, and therefore, ban Holocaust denial groups.

But for Dave, or any other Facebook employee, to take definitive policing action based on the belief that Holocaust denial does not represent a threat to personal safety, is not only lacking in insight, but harmful to members of Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allowing free speech on the Facebook platform makes sense. It’s descriptive of the opinions in our world. It’s incredible, for example, to wonder about the populist insurgency in Iran and search Facebook for groups as a barometer of the region and for an actual connection to the people. I agree with the point made that if you suppress anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial, it will spring up in other forums on the Internet (which may&#8211;to the detriment of human rights groups&#8211;be harder to monitor). </p>
<p>But people like Dave Willner should not be the authority on what content should be classified as hateful and what poses a threat to the Jewish people. After all, what makes something hateful or threatening? If it affects my physical well-being, is it threatening? Yes. If it affects my psychological well-being? The answer could easily be “yes.”</p>
<p>But for you, Dave, to suggest that Holocaust denial is not threatening is out of your expertise and out of your control. A Holocaust denial group in the U.S. might be all talk, but how about one in Poland? Is it so unlikely that a Facebook group could spur a real life organization of boys who assault Jews, burn down synagogues or deface cemeteries? At what point in the group&#8217;s evolution would you pull the plug on it? More importantly, does Facebook even have the infrastructure to deal with such a mass of potentially hateful groups on a day-to-day basis? How many Polish speaking group monitors do you employ? </p>
<p>Point is, without a semantic analysis system that can identify sentiment and intention, you won’t be able to identify actionable information. Instead, you are left with a choice of allowing all speech, or creating a rule that says that Holocaust denial groups have a statistically higher chance of spurring real-life hate or online abuse, and therefore, ban Holocaust denial groups.</p>
<p>But for Dave, or any other Facebook employee, to take definitive policing action based on the belief that Holocaust denial does not represent a threat to personal safety, is not only lacking in insight, but harmful to members of Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: George R</title>
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		<dc:creator>George R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Gebadia on this, and I support Facebook&#039;s decision not to close down these sites. This is every bit a freedom of speech issue in as much as Facebook has decided to set itself up as a forum for free interaction.

This may be a bit cynical but in my opinion, advertisers who chose to pull their ads from Facebook over this issue are either just being plain disingenuous (willfully undertaking a sham PR exercise) or are too stupid to comprehend what Facebook is about. I doubt if an ad appearing randomly on a hate-group&#039;s Facebook page justifies any more connection between the company and the group than would a billboard at at a crime scene would establish a connection between the advertiser and the criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Gebadia on this, and I support Facebook&#8217;s decision not to close down these sites. This is every bit a freedom of speech issue in as much as Facebook has decided to set itself up as a forum for free interaction.</p>
<p>This may be a bit cynical but in my opinion, advertisers who chose to pull their ads from Facebook over this issue are either just being plain disingenuous (willfully undertaking a sham PR exercise) or are too stupid to comprehend what Facebook is about. I doubt if an ad appearing randomly on a hate-group&#8217;s Facebook page justifies any more connection between the company and the group than would a billboard at at a crime scene would establish a connection between the advertiser and the criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Employees Speak Their Mind On Holocaust Denial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook Employees Speak Their Mind On Holocaust Denial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] got fired up over the issue. Six current and former employees commented on a post I wrote about advertisers starting to balk at their ads being shown around this content. Robert Scoble noticed the debate and started his own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] got fired up over the issue. Six current and former employees commented on a post I wrote about advertisers starting to balk at their ads being shown around this content. Robert Scoble noticed the debate and started his own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like someone got Tech Crunch to bury this article.

So much for freedom of speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like someone got Tech Crunch to bury this article.</p>
<p>So much for freedom of speech.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Noah. I am starting to notice that too. There are a few token Hitler groups, a few token Nazi groups, a few token anti-gay groups, a few token Holocaust denial groups, etc.

 I&#039;m really not understanding what this tokenism is all about. 

There are no pictures of women breastfeeding -- that&#039;s for sure. On the other hand,a KKK group and anti-Muslim group were just taken down within these last few weeks. 

There&#039;s no rhyme or reason whatsoever. There is no logical consistency. Dave W. keeps asking me to advance a logical argument. I haven&#039;t seen any logic at all in the arbitrary inconsistent enforcement of their ToS.  It&#039;s all very, very odd indeed. 

There needs to be more transparency. There needs to be a system in place with clear criteria of what constitutes a violation of ToS and what does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Noah. I am starting to notice that too. There are a few token Hitler groups, a few token Nazi groups, a few token anti-gay groups, a few token Holocaust denial groups, etc.</p>
<p> I&#8217;m really not understanding what this tokenism is all about. </p>
<p>There are no pictures of women breastfeeding &#8212; that&#8217;s for sure. On the other hand,a KKK group and anti-Muslim group were just taken down within these last few weeks. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no rhyme or reason whatsoever. There is no logical consistency. Dave W. keeps asking me to advance a logical argument. I haven&#8217;t seen any logic at all in the arbitrary inconsistent enforcement of their ToS.  It&#8217;s all very, very odd indeed. </p>
<p>There needs to be more transparency. There needs to be a system in place with clear criteria of what constitutes a violation of ToS and what does not.</p>
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		<title>By: hypocrites_are_everywhere</title>
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		<dc:creator>hypocrites_are_everywhere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OJ Simpson&#039;s family always insists on his innocence.  Holocaust deniers, you help explain their mentality!  And I&#039;m not even religious!

About Freedom of Speech, what about the &quot;Don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; policy?  You can bet that: the Vatican folks that protected the Boston child abusing priests for decades until they got exposed; the religious right wingers -- Newt, Larry Craig, Coulter, Palin, Strom Thurmond, etc. have touched themselves just as much as you &amp; I! Darn it... I picked on a dead man, Thurmond!  :)

Suppressing evil minds is nearly impossible and to a certain extent, we &#039;all&#039; have double standard.  But it&#039;s crucial that we keep the pressure on private firms like FB (I like your &#039;financial&#039; approach, Michael), and punish criminals like James Von Brunn hard (hmm... never thought those enhanced interrogation techniques were useful on anyone other than Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and a few others...)!  Let&#039;s make sure that we don&#039;t &#039;intend&#039; to cause physical damage, death or serious injury!  Ya know... we &#039;all&#039; have good intention! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OJ Simpson&#8217;s family always insists on his innocence.  Holocaust deniers, you help explain their mentality!  And I&#8217;m not even religious!</p>
<p>About Freedom of Speech, what about the &#8220;Don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; policy?  You can bet that: the Vatican folks that protected the Boston child abusing priests for decades until they got exposed; the religious right wingers &#8212; Newt, Larry Craig, Coulter, Palin, Strom Thurmond, etc. have touched themselves just as much as you &amp; I! Darn it&#8230; I picked on a dead man, Thurmond!  <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Suppressing evil minds is nearly impossible and to a certain extent, we &#8216;all&#8217; have double standard.  But it&#8217;s crucial that we keep the pressure on private firms like FB (I like your &#8216;financial&#8217; approach, Michael), and punish criminals like James Von Brunn hard (hmm&#8230; never thought those enhanced interrogation techniques were useful on anyone other than Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and a few others&#8230;)!  Let&#8217;s make sure that we don&#8217;t &#8216;intend&#8217; to cause physical damage, death or serious injury!  Ya know&#8230; we &#8216;all&#8217; have good intention! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s almost as though if you are mainstream enough with your alternative views then facebook leaves you.  the essence of the problem with how facebook follows their own terms is it is completely arbitrary.  I am not surprised to see anything.  the sad truth is the administrators are attempting to play as *GODS*.  they see themselves as above morality.  the claim to be following free thought, but in essence the only free thought facebook tolerates is their own.  we see this with nudity issues... and we see this with what &quot;Conservative&quot; value facebook deems to exist.  I would not have a problem with self policing... I might not even have a problem with pure free speech.  what I do have a problem is the lack of transparency.  facebook tears down Anti-Gay sites all the time.  the fact that they leave a few token ones up is petty.  in the same respect facebook does the same thing with the Holocaust denial groups.  we only want you to follow your own terms... whatever it may be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s almost as though if you are mainstream enough with your alternative views then facebook leaves you.  the essence of the problem with how facebook follows their own terms is it is completely arbitrary.  I am not surprised to see anything.  the sad truth is the administrators are attempting to play as *GODS*.  they see themselves as above morality.  the claim to be following free thought, but in essence the only free thought facebook tolerates is their own.  we see this with nudity issues&#8230; and we see this with what &#8220;Conservative&#8221; value facebook deems to exist.  I would not have a problem with self policing&#8230; I might not even have a problem with pure free speech.  what I do have a problem is the lack of transparency.  facebook tears down Anti-Gay sites all the time.  the fact that they leave a few token ones up is petty.  in the same respect facebook does the same thing with the Holocaust denial groups.  we only want you to follow your own terms&#8230; whatever it may be</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="709397300">Amin Khad</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="709397300">Amin Khad</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect Zuckerberg&#039;s commitment to permitting free speech on Facebook, especially considering his Jewish background.

Facebook does not allow comments like &quot;all Jews should die&quot;, but it does allow holocaust denial, as it should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect Zuckerberg&#8217;s commitment to permitting free speech on Facebook, especially considering his Jewish background.</p>
<p>Facebook does not allow comments like &#8220;all Jews should die&#8221;, but it does allow holocaust denial, as it should.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="709397300">Amin Khad</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="709397300">Amin Khad</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect Zuckerman&#039;s adherence to permitting free speech on Facebook, especially considering his Jewish background. 

Facebook does NOT allow comments like &quot;all Jews should die&quot;, but it does allow holocaust denial, as it should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect Zuckerman&#8217;s adherence to permitting free speech on Facebook, especially considering his Jewish background. </p>
<p>Facebook does NOT allow comments like &#8220;all Jews should die&#8221;, but it does allow holocaust denial, as it should.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="720657910">Jessica Wilzig Gottlieb</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="720657910">Jessica Wilzig Gottlieb</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Jewish woman and the fist generation post holocaust in America, I find myself conflicted on this issue.

I like knowing that some corporations will shun the groups, but I also like knowing who will advertise there. I want to know who employs these people and where their children go to school.

I want/need? the opportunity to identify the hate groups and their employers and supporters.

I don&#039;t want to drive them underground. 

Do I wish they would change their ways? Naturally I do. Do I believe they will? Sadly no. 

Evil exists. Facebook is a corporation, not a government entity they aren&#039;t obliged to offer any one any particular platform. As a for profit group they can offer any skew they want.

Sometimes it makes me hate facebook a little, but then I realize that they&#039;re just a platform, and a transient one at that. I guess I&#039;m grateful to know what groups and businesses in America really don&#039;t want me, my kids or my family, because, really, we&#039;ve had enough. I don&#039;t want to fight with anyone, and I certainly don&#039;t want to support any businesses that would help these terrorist organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Jewish woman and the fist generation post holocaust in America, I find myself conflicted on this issue.</p>
<p>I like knowing that some corporations will shun the groups, but I also like knowing who will advertise there. I want to know who employs these people and where their children go to school.</p>
<p>I want/need? the opportunity to identify the hate groups and their employers and supporters.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to drive them underground. </p>
<p>Do I wish they would change their ways? Naturally I do. Do I believe they will? Sadly no. </p>
<p>Evil exists. Facebook is a corporation, not a government entity they aren&#8217;t obliged to offer any one any particular platform. As a for profit group they can offer any skew they want.</p>
<p>Sometimes it makes me hate facebook a little, but then I realize that they&#8217;re just a platform, and a transient one at that. I guess I&#8217;m grateful to know what groups and businesses in America really don&#8217;t want me, my kids or my family, because, really, we&#8217;ve had enough. I don&#8217;t want to fight with anyone, and I certainly don&#8217;t want to support any businesses that would help these terrorist organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave W

Hate against gays without question causes harm -- sometimes imminent harm. 

&quot;Hate Against Gays and Lesbians can Lead to Murder and Suicide&quot;http://www.suicide.org/memorials/matthew-sheppard-john-french.html

While this is not a a scholarly article, it is very easy to find several that would corroborate these findings. Oy vey. Facebook is a cesspool of hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave W</p>
<p>Hate against gays without question causes harm &#8212; sometimes imminent harm. </p>
<p>&#8220;Hate Against Gays and Lesbians can Lead to Murder and Suicide&#8221;http://www.suicide.org/memorials/matthew-sheppard-john-french.html</p>
<p>While this is not a a scholarly article, it is very easy to find several that would corroborate these findings. Oy vey. Facebook is a cesspool of hate.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what I notice as a pattern on facebook is that a group no matter how controversial for the most part can survive if it has a robust community.  in the case of MemeShock they embrace Neo-Conservatism and that seems to trigger alarm bells on facebook.  a group that is simply Christian and showcases hostility to gay issues is often tolerated, but a more open minded Conservative is scrutinized.  MemeShock isn&#039;t a hate group... but they do support the war in Iraq and support ProLife ideas.  they are a more complicated then most political activists online and so they are constantly suspect to the administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what I notice as a pattern on facebook is that a group no matter how controversial for the most part can survive if it has a robust community.  in the case of MemeShock they embrace Neo-Conservatism and that seems to trigger alarm bells on facebook.  a group that is simply Christian and showcases hostility to gay issues is often tolerated, but a more open minded Conservative is scrutinized.  MemeShock isn&#8217;t a hate group&#8230; but they do support the war in Iraq and support ProLife ideas.  they are a more complicated then most political activists online and so they are constantly suspect to the administration.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you think discussion of the Holocaust can/should be handled differently than discussion of the many other incredibly horrible events in human history, please explain why.

If you instead believe that it fits into a broader category of tragedies that can/should be handle differently, please specify which events and what criteria should be used to select them.&quot;

We would gladly help come up with the criteria if we thought anyone was actually going to take it seriously.

And David A. is right about negative publicity. When there&#039;s enough of a negative spotlight being shined on FB and when enough advertisers pull their ads, FB will change their stance. The key word though is &quot;enough.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you think discussion of the Holocaust can/should be handled differently than discussion of the many other incredibly horrible events in human history, please explain why.</p>
<p>If you instead believe that it fits into a broader category of tragedies that can/should be handle differently, please specify which events and what criteria should be used to select them.&#8221;</p>
<p>We would gladly help come up with the criteria if we thought anyone was actually going to take it seriously.</p>
<p>And David A. is right about negative publicity. When there&#8217;s enough of a negative spotlight being shined on FB and when enough advertisers pull their ads, FB will change their stance. The key word though is &#8220;enough.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/12/holocaust-museum-death-wont-change-facebooks-mind-on-hate-but-advertisers-may-be-able-to/comment-page-1/#comment-2801619</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also to be fair.  MemeShockers are not just Christian.  they identify with &quot;Conservative&quot; causes.
this group gets disabled all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also to be fair.  MemeShockers are not just Christian.  they identify with &#8220;Conservative&#8221; causes.<br />
this group gets disabled all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/12/holocaust-museum-death-wont-change-facebooks-mind-on-hate-but-advertisers-may-be-able-to/comment-page-1/#comment-2801616</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="817739130">Noah David Simon</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a message I got from a Christian Conservative group

ALERT TO MEMESHOCKERS on facebook: MemeShock is currently inaccessible. I&#039;m unsure why but this is the second time this has happened in a week. Please file a report at: http://htxt.it/qi46 And request that they fix the problem. Also ask if it has been possibly hacked. You will also need a URL, here it is: http://htxt.it/13qA 

I have no doubt that facebook leaves a few token &quot;Conservative&quot; groups up, but those of us online hear the stories all the time from Pro Life and Prop8 supporting groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a message I got from a Christian Conservative group</p>
<p>ALERT TO MEMESHOCKERS on facebook: MemeShock is currently inaccessible. I&#8217;m unsure why but this is the second time this has happened in a week. Please file a report at: <a href="http://htxt.it/qi46" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://htxt.it/qi46'>http://htxt.it/qi46</a> And request that they fix the problem. Also ask if it has been possibly hacked. You will also need a URL, here it is: <a href="http://htxt.it/13qA" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://htxt.it/13qA'>http://htxt.it/13qA</a> </p>
<p>I have no doubt that facebook leaves a few token &#8220;Conservative&#8221; groups up, but those of us online hear the stories all the time from Pro Life and Prop8 supporting groups.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/12/holocaust-museum-death-wont-change-facebooks-mind-on-hate-but-advertisers-may-be-able-to/comment-page-1/#comment-2801615</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="547460338">Jessica Fishbein</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected. I&#039;m pretty shocked and disappointed to discover that Facebook is allowing anti-gay groups, and obviously, I have to tell you that I think the second two groups should indeed be deleted. There&#039;s no reason why the Facebook platform should be used to spread hate. None whatsoever. I may just start alerting some gay activists about this as this particular issue is not my personal crusade but I am pained to see this type of intolerance being allowed to flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected. I&#8217;m pretty shocked and disappointed to discover that Facebook is allowing anti-gay groups, and obviously, I have to tell you that I think the second two groups should indeed be deleted. There&#8217;s no reason why the Facebook platform should be used to spread hate. None whatsoever. I may just start alerting some gay activists about this as this particular issue is not my personal crusade but I am pained to see this type of intolerance being allowed to flourish.</p>
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