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	<title>Comments on: You Call 50,000 Palm Pres Sold A Success?  Investors Don&#8217;t Think So.</title>
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		<title>By: Denise Milani</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2855084</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise Milani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, developers go where the money is.  But the money follows the law of supply and demand.  If fewer developers work on Palm apps that&#039;s less competition and may mean more market share.  If devs are burning the midnight oil for Iphone apps and have a huge market with stiff competition, maybe being a dev for Palm apps isn&#039;t such a money-losing prospect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, developers go where the money is.  But the money follows the law of supply and demand.  If fewer developers work on Palm apps that&#8217;s less competition and may mean more market share.  If devs are burning the midnight oil for Iphone apps and have a huge market with stiff competition, maybe being a dev for Palm apps isn&#8217;t such a money-losing prospect.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone 3G S sold over ONE MILLION this weekend! - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhone 3G S sold over ONE MILLION this weekend! - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came out with its second iPhone 3G last year, it sold one million units the first weekend.        You Call 50,000 Palm Pres Sold A Success? Investors Don&#8217;t Think So.    Last edited by nfl46 : Yesterday at 08:58 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] came out with its second iPhone 3G last year, it sold one million units the first weekend.        You Call 50,000 Palm Pres Sold A Success? Investors Don&#8217;t Think So.    Last edited by nfl46 : Yesterday at 08:58 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2810636</link>
		<dc:creator>The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why is that? After all, reports are that the Pre itself is selling pretty well. Well, the reasons are fairly obvious, and are all Palm’s fault. Right now, there are only 30 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Techeroid &#187; The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2810555</link>
		<dc:creator>Techeroid &#187; The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why is that? After all, reports are that the Pre itself is selling pretty well. Well, the reasons are fairly obvious, and are all Palm&#8217;s fault. Right now, there are only [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault. &#124; Cellphone Ultra</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2810503</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault. &#124; Cellphone Ultra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why is that? After all, reports are that the Pre itself is selling pretty well. Well, the reasons are fairly obvious, and are all Palm&#8217;s fault. Right now, there are only [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault. &#124; GeekStream</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2810386</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple’s App Store. And It’s Palm’s Fault. &#124; GeekStream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why is that? After all, reports are that the Pre itself is selling pretty well. Well, the reasons are fairly obvious, and are all Palm&#8217;s fault. Right now, there are only [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple&#8217;s App Store. And It&#8217;s Palm&#8217;s Fault.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2810351</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pre App Catalog Is Tracking Way, Way Behind Apple&#8217;s App Store. And It&#8217;s Palm&#8217;s Fault.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why is that? After all, reports are that the Pre itself is selling pretty well. Well, the reasons are fairly obvious, and are all Palm&#8217;s fault. Right now, there are only [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2801514</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question for the loser writing this article. How is it you use the stock price of PALM to justify and link low Pre sales rates(http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/) that end on Monday...an entire weeks worth of data omitted! How about the price on Friday(http://www.precentral.net/palm-stock-smashes-through-14-barrier-company-now-worth-over-2-billion)? 
Smashes a few holes in your journalism doing the homework?
Come on...the Pre has provien a coup for WebOS introduction and it is not going away. How about 500,000+ applications uploaded in the first 6 days of release?
You do realize that people seeing it firsthand it are drooling. Your lack of integrity does nothing to change this fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for the loser writing this article. How is it you use the stock price of PALM to justify and link low Pre sales rates(http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/) that end on Monday&#8230;an entire weeks worth of data omitted! How about the price on Friday(http://www.precentral.net/palm-stock-smashes-through-14-barrier-company-now-worth-over-2-billion)?<br />
Smashes a few holes in your journalism doing the homework?<br />
Come on&#8230;the Pre has provien a coup for WebOS introduction and it is not going away. How about 500,000+ applications uploaded in the first 6 days of release?<br />
You do realize that people seeing it firsthand it are drooling. Your lack of integrity does nothing to change this fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Asuran</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-1/#comment-2801371</link>
		<dc:creator>Asuran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erm, it&#039;s palm, they don&#039;t have time like apple and rim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erm, it&#8217;s palm, they don&#8217;t have time like apple and rim.</p>
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		<title>By: Asuran</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-1/#comment-2801367</link>
		<dc:creator>Asuran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... but look at it tho, her fingers are not that big and yet it&#039;s much too big to press those buttons... the Pre fails compared to the Blackberry cos it&#039;s too narrow, it&#039;s like an attempt to steal from both apple and blackberry and ends up with neither</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; but look at it tho, her fingers are not that big and yet it&#8217;s much too big to press those buttons&#8230; the Pre fails compared to the Blackberry cos it&#8217;s too narrow, it&#8217;s like an attempt to steal from both apple and blackberry and ends up with neither</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2801029</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it funny how the Apple guys have turned into such bullies, now that they&#039;ve become dominant?

Remember when Apple was almost dead?  Even then, the Microsoft guys didn&#039;t come in constantly and gleefully predict the collapse of Apple when Windows 2000 shipped.  They didn&#039;t incessantly declare that Macintosh was dead because the Microsoft ecosystem was shipping 100x as many machines on its platform.

Back then, Apple acolytes talked about how &quot;being the biggest isn&#039;t everything,&quot; and how a choice of machines is a good thing, and that one size didn&#039;t fit all, and how competition keeps things moving forward.

But now that they&#039;re in the driver&#039;s seat, they cannot STAND the idea of competition.  Any phone that ships from Palm, or Android developers, or anyone else, must be CRUSHED INTO THE DIRT!

Apple is far, far worse than Microsoft EVER was.  They have deliberately crippled their phones so that things like tethering and open connectivity don&#039;t work.  They regulate who may develop and sell applications on their platform.  They even regulate what applications and data their own users can have on their phones -- with the ability to remote wipe them if you &quot;break their terms.&quot;  They lock you to a single network and brick your phone if you modify it to work on other networks.

No hardware keyboard, no multitasking, an &quot;app store&quot; filled with fart and boob-jiggle &quot;apps,&quot; and one of the most arrogant and fanatical userbases on planet Earth.  The legions of phone users who don&#039;t use Apple&#039;s stuff will be CHEERING when Palm or Android or even Microsoft dethrone this bunch of wieners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it funny how the Apple guys have turned into such bullies, now that they&#8217;ve become dominant?</p>
<p>Remember when Apple was almost dead?  Even then, the Microsoft guys didn&#8217;t come in constantly and gleefully predict the collapse of Apple when Windows 2000 shipped.  They didn&#8217;t incessantly declare that Macintosh was dead because the Microsoft ecosystem was shipping 100x as many machines on its platform.</p>
<p>Back then, Apple acolytes talked about how &#8220;being the biggest isn&#8217;t everything,&#8221; and how a choice of machines is a good thing, and that one size didn&#8217;t fit all, and how competition keeps things moving forward.</p>
<p>But now that they&#8217;re in the driver&#8217;s seat, they cannot STAND the idea of competition.  Any phone that ships from Palm, or Android developers, or anyone else, must be CRUSHED INTO THE DIRT!</p>
<p>Apple is far, far worse than Microsoft EVER was.  They have deliberately crippled their phones so that things like tethering and open connectivity don&#8217;t work.  They regulate who may develop and sell applications on their platform.  They even regulate what applications and data their own users can have on their phones &#8212; with the ability to remote wipe them if you &#8220;break their terms.&#8221;  They lock you to a single network and brick your phone if you modify it to work on other networks.</p>
<p>No hardware keyboard, no multitasking, an &#8220;app store&#8221; filled with fart and boob-jiggle &#8220;apps,&#8221; and one of the most arrogant and fanatical userbases on planet Earth.  The legions of phone users who don&#8217;t use Apple&#8217;s stuff will be CHEERING when Palm or Android or even Microsoft dethrone this bunch of wieners.</p>
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		<title>By: JakiChan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2798036</link>
		<dc:creator>JakiChan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend went to Best Buy to buy one on launch day.  There were about 8 people in line.  Store opens, he goes to the mobile section.  They were already sold out before the store even opened. He asked the sales droid where the people were who had bought them (since they had to be in the store, right?) and the guy just mumbled something.  Then he asks to be on the waiting list and he&#039;s like 8th or something.  WTF Best Buy?  Insiders getting first pick?  Breaking street date?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend went to Best Buy to buy one on launch day.  There were about 8 people in line.  Store opens, he goes to the mobile section.  They were already sold out before the store even opened. He asked the sales droid where the people were who had bought them (since they had to be in the store, right?) and the guy just mumbled something.  Then he asks to be on the waiting list and he&#8217;s like 8th or something.  WTF Best Buy?  Insiders getting first pick?  Breaking street date?</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2797704</link>
		<dc:creator>elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want one, but I don&#039;t want to have to switch to Sprint to get it - unlock the Pre, Palm!</description>
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		<title>By: Nowinki &#187; Rumor: Sluggish Palm Pre Sales Put Second webOs Project On Hold</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/08/you-call-50000-palm-pres-sold-a-success-investors-dont-think-so/comment-page-2/#comment-2797653</link>
		<dc:creator>Nowinki &#187; Rumor: Sluggish Palm Pre Sales Put Second webOs Project On Hold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Pre smartphone. But Palm&#039;s kept the sales figures for the first weekend under wraps, and the best estimates of industry analysts have put them between 50,000 and 100,000 units. Palm&#039;s even saying it sold out [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Kimsal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kimsal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palm had an excellent opportunity over the past 6 months to engage developers and the rest of the community to gauge demand and modify production rates.  

Don&#039;t go for the iPhone-killer label, because people are always going to think the comparison comes up short.  If they&#039;d focused on building up a great community beforehand, this could have been a totally different launch day, but also a totally different build-up.

1.  Getting SDKs to developers earlier would have helped build early-stage apps, and had developers evangelizing the platform well in advance of the release.  A directory of upcoming apps (from early-release SDK devs) with &quot;I want this app&quot; voting buttons would have given devs feedback early on, but also given Palm an idea of what people were interested in doing on the phone even before its launch.

2.  Sponsoring &#039;public user&#039; days by raffling off trips to Palm&#039;s HQ for &#039;average Joe&#039; testing, complete with videos and such.  Total transparency.  $10 tickets for a chance to win a tour of the Palm Pre HQ and meet with the team - all proceeds to go to a charity.  Free flights and hotels for the winners.  Candid feedback on user experience stuff.  Blogged/videod/documented.

3.  Same experience for devs, based on which pre-release apps had best community feedback earlier on.  Palm could have purchased the apps from the dev community as pre-installed apps.  Fly top community devs out to meet with Pre team.  What would that have done to your development resume and street cred, that one of your apps made it on to the Pre at launch?

Instead, what did we get?  Standard CES announcement, then months of nothing, then some web ads, then low inventory, store experiences that are the exact same as every other phone on the market (plastic models that don&#039;t work, unfriendly staff, etc.).  

Palm had a chance to really change how phones are developed and launched.  They had a huge community of people *wanting* something new, and they blew it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palm had an excellent opportunity over the past 6 months to engage developers and the rest of the community to gauge demand and modify production rates.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t go for the iPhone-killer label, because people are always going to think the comparison comes up short.  If they&#8217;d focused on building up a great community beforehand, this could have been a totally different launch day, but also a totally different build-up.</p>
<p>1.  Getting SDKs to developers earlier would have helped build early-stage apps, and had developers evangelizing the platform well in advance of the release.  A directory of upcoming apps (from early-release SDK devs) with &#8220;I want this app&#8221; voting buttons would have given devs feedback early on, but also given Palm an idea of what people were interested in doing on the phone even before its launch.</p>
<p>2.  Sponsoring &#8216;public user&#8217; days by raffling off trips to Palm&#8217;s HQ for &#8216;average Joe&#8217; testing, complete with videos and such.  Total transparency.  $10 tickets for a chance to win a tour of the Palm Pre HQ and meet with the team &#8211; all proceeds to go to a charity.  Free flights and hotels for the winners.  Candid feedback on user experience stuff.  Blogged/videod/documented.</p>
<p>3.  Same experience for devs, based on which pre-release apps had best community feedback earlier on.  Palm could have purchased the apps from the dev community as pre-installed apps.  Fly top community devs out to meet with Pre team.  What would that have done to your development resume and street cred, that one of your apps made it on to the Pre at launch?</p>
<p>Instead, what did we get?  Standard CES announcement, then months of nothing, then some web ads, then low inventory, store experiences that are the exact same as every other phone on the market (plastic models that don&#8217;t work, unfriendly staff, etc.).  </p>
<p>Palm had a chance to really change how phones are developed and launched.  They had a huge community of people *wanting* something new, and they blew it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Best Mobile Stock Trading App?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Best Mobile Stock Trading App?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: babnkr</title>
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		<dc:creator>babnkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah - but now the iphone is 99 bucks.. so - the old numbers are kind of irrelevant ppl have options</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah &#8211; but now the iphone is 99 bucks.. so &#8211; the old numbers are kind of irrelevant ppl have options</p>
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		<title>By: babnkr</title>
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		<dc:creator>babnkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ur hot. and thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ur hot. and thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet you are too.</description>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not true. I have a Dell and I *had* all intentions of buying the Pre that day. Still do.. well, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true. I have a Dell and I *had* all intentions of buying the Pre that day. Still do.. well, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure where you&#039;re located... but look at the facts.

Sprint: http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?language=EN

AT&amp;T: http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/

btw... I&#039;ve never dropped a call on my iPhone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where you&#8217;re located&#8230; but look at the facts.</p>
<p>Sprint: <a href="http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?language=EN" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?language=EN'>http://coverage...jsp?language=EN</a></p>
<p>AT&amp;T: <a href="http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/'>http://www.wire...coverageviewer/</a></p>
<p>btw&#8230; I&#8217;ve never dropped a call on my iPhone</p>
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		<title>By: Palm Pre Sells 50,000 &#124; Handheld Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palm Pre Sells 50,000 &#124; Handheld Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no sweetheart, stop kidding youself.  The techie blogs hyped the pre since the CES in january...so only the people who read those blogs knew what the hell a pre was.  Most &quot;normal&quot; or average non-techie customers had (and still have) no idea what the hell a pre is.  

If you read the bloomberg and WSJ article on the pre sales projections from the weekend, they both mention multiple times about the lack of a marketing campaign.  

there were no pre commercials and a few print ads.  they hype you refer to was coming from blogs and tech sites excited about the phone.

compare that to the marketing machine of apple and the campaign for the iphone before its release.  if you draw the same conclusion as you had above, you are not being honest with yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no sweetheart, stop kidding youself.  The techie blogs hyped the pre since the CES in january&#8230;so only the people who read those blogs knew what the hell a pre was.  Most &#8220;normal&#8221; or average non-techie customers had (and still have) no idea what the hell a pre is.  </p>
<p>If you read the bloomberg and WSJ article on the pre sales projections from the weekend, they both mention multiple times about the lack of a marketing campaign.  </p>
<p>there were no pre commercials and a few print ads.  they hype you refer to was coming from blogs and tech sites excited about the phone.</p>
<p>compare that to the marketing machine of apple and the campaign for the iphone before its release.  if you draw the same conclusion as you had above, you are not being honest with yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey....Jackasses....did anyone remember a little thing called WWDC going on yesterday?  You know, a little thing called a new iphone?  Stocks went down in anticipation of the announcement.  Now that a new and improved iphone has been announced, they will stay down until Pre sales figures post-new-iphone-announcement can be obtained.

I swear, it is morons like you who have gotten this contry to where we are today.  Stop trying to be jailhouse brokers and go back to pretending you know how to do something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey&#8230;.Jackasses&#8230;.did anyone remember a little thing called WWDC going on yesterday?  You know, a little thing called a new iphone?  Stocks went down in anticipation of the announcement.  Now that a new and improved iphone has been announced, they will stay down until Pre sales figures post-new-iphone-announcement can be obtained.</p>
<p>I swear, it is morons like you who have gotten this contry to where we are today.  Stop trying to be jailhouse brokers and go back to pretending you know how to do something else.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone 3GS &#124; Palm Pre &#124; Three Strikes Law &#124; Pirate Party - Week in Review #3 &#124; yesterdayshero</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhone 3GS &#124; Palm Pre &#124; Three Strikes Law &#124; Pirate Party - Week in Review #3 &#124; yesterdayshero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Palm Pre Earlier this week Palm released their long awaited iPhone killer, the Palm Pre. The product has generally been welcomed to warm reviews, but with the announcement of Apple&#8217;s new iPhone, it&#8217;s looking like less of a threat. It does however provide a decent option for people not willing to give in to the iPhone craze. Success is important for the company that struggled to make it into the mobile market. &gt; Palm Pre review &gt; Here’s what’s wrong with the Palm Pre &gt; You Call 50,000 Palm Pres Sold A Success? Investors Don’t Think So. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Palm Pre Earlier this week Palm released their long awaited iPhone killer, the Palm Pre. The product has generally been welcomed to warm reviews, but with the announcement of Apple&#8217;s new iPhone, it&#8217;s looking like less of a threat. It does however provide a decent option for people not willing to give in to the iPhone craze. Success is important for the company that struggled to make it into the mobile market. &gt; Palm Pre review &gt; Here’s what’s wrong with the Palm Pre &gt; You Call 50,000 Palm Pres Sold A Success? Investors Don’t Think So. [...]</p>
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