Comments on: The Big Cheese: Powerful Version Of Google Search Appliance Can Grow Exponentially

By: Google Upgrades Enterprise Search -> ApaRece

Google Upgrades Enterprise Search -> ApaRece — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:02:04 +0000

[...] and the rest use its hosted site search and other enterprise products. Most recently, Google improved the scalability of its enterprise search appliance (also known as the GSA), allowing businesses to [...]

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:54:17 +0000

This is true, however, when you figure the price of other Enterprise Search devices it is still far cheapter. Also, if after 3 years you decide you don’t like GSA you rip it out and can install something else.

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:48:42 +0000

I’m not sure what you are talking about. I just reviewed several search engines and Google was the cheapest.
“The new GSA is available now starting at $30,000 per server with capacities that serve from 500,000 to 30 million documents. Existing customers get the new software features free. ” -eWeek

Not to mention you don’t have to buy hardware or Microsoft licensing for Windows Server.

By: gsauser

gsauser — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:38:56 +0000

Anyway did you guys know that every two/three years you need to pay the new box price for the box to continue function?

By: Google Search Appliance Woos, But Does It Wow? | The Noisy Channel

Google Search Appliance Woos, But Does It Wow? | The Noisy Channel — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:55:30 +0000

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By: Itman

Itman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:11:52 +0000

Actually, the trick is that exponent does not always mean exponentiation. Say, it can be used to denote a string with n repeating characters.

By: Itman

Itman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:01:27 +0000

There should be a lot large scale enterprise solutions…. Just google them!

By: Itman

Itman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:59:58 +0000

Man,
be polite. Where do you see doubling here? If you need to handle the double load, you double the number of servers. It is not if you added, say 10% more servers, to handle the double load.

By: Itman

Itman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:42:17 +0000

Well phrased!
PS: Technically you might do it a little better, if you get discounts as a loyal customer!

By: Itman

Itman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:40:49 +0000

Joe, exactly. The solution is indeed linear, nobody invented yet, how to deal with exponentially increasing document numbers with linearly increasing sets of servers (of the same CPU speed and storage capacity).

By: Itman

Itman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:39:18 +0000

Seems to me, that you are messing up exponentiation (as a math operation) with a term “exponential growth”, which is for example doubling the number of requests every year. However, what the scalable architecture suggests is really a linear solution. That is to deal with a doubling requests you are doubling number of servers.

By: Israel V

Israel V — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:06:50 +0000

It’s no Bing

By: Gebadia Smith

Gebadia Smith — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:56:59 +0000

The only one I know is Intra but that is for large industry…what else is there? I would like to know..

By: Miguel

Miguel — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:48:41 +0000

Better than anything else out there? Which competing products are you comparing GSA to Gebadia?

By: Gebadia Smith

Gebadia Smith — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:45:05 +0000

Haven’t you figured it out yet? All Google products are a work in progress which is what “beta” meant in a lot of their products. This is still better than anything else out there. You want perfection it will take time.

By: Steve Pole

Steve Pole — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:39:22 +0000

BK, the point is not that the problem isn’t exponential, it’s that you’ll need 2,4,8,16,32… boxes to deal with it, i.e. an exponential number of them.

The only sense in which the “Google Search Appliance Can Grow Exponentially” is if you buy an exponential number of them! Not a problem for Google if you’re buying them at $30k a pop!

By: Nathan

Nathan — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:28:23 +0000

no, exponention would be something like squaring it every time – you know, raising it to an exponent?

2, 4, 16, 256, 65536, …

get it?

By: Miguel

Miguel — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:24:39 +0000

Heh – yes – for which you get to pay exponentially more money to Google …

By: BK Gupta

BK Gupta — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:16:56 +0000

You are a moron of the kind that means to spread their idiocy.

Doubling every 12-18 months. 2, 4, 8, 16, 32… it’s an exponentially growing problem.

By: Novice Tech Blogger

Novice Tech Blogger — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:31:07 +0000

Google is wrong. Their whole attitude towards enterprise software lack one crucial factor – integration.
The GSA can scale to a billion documents, but if this search does not integrate into existing enterprise systems – either ERP (SAP,Oracle) or outlook, which is also heavily used. For the business user, finding the relevant document is not enough – the document has to link to a business transaction (sales order, requisite request, production order etc.)

By: Sanjay Sharma

Sanjay Sharma — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:22:29 +0000

But [GSA] + 1 isn’t nearly as sexy to geeks.

By: Steve Pole

Steve Pole — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:10:05 +0000

Joe, she means it grows exponentially as you buy exponentially more boxes

By: Dave Haucke

Dave Haucke — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:56:11 +0000

Joe, the headline is a nod to how Google is billing its new architecture “GSA to the N” … hence exponentially.

Regardless, as the analyst community will likely point out, scalability has never been the primary weakness of Google’s enterprise search play. Tuning, mining, refinement and security have been the major roadblocks and why most of GSA’s deployments remain relatively tactical.

By: El Big Cheese: Potente versión de Google Search Appliance « Gnu/Linux

El Big Cheese: Potente versión de Google Search Appliance « Gnu/Linux — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:35:27 +0000

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