Comments on: If The Watchdogs Are Saved: Ethical Repercussions Of A Newspaper Bailout http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:33:15 -0800 hourly 1 By: -Newspaper Bailouts: a Threat to Freedom of the Press? | ANSWERS For The Faith http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2995479 -Newspaper Bailouts: a Threat to Freedom of the Press? | ANSWERS For The Faith Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:03:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2995479 [...] michael arrington: If The Watchdogs Are Saved: Ethical Repercussions Of A Newspaper Bailout (techcrunch.com) [...] [...] michael arrington: If The Watchdogs Are Saved: Ethical Repercussions Of A Newspaper Bailout (techcrunch.com) [...]

]]> By: Alysson http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2776237 Alysson Mon, 01 Jun 2009 03:01:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2776237 The notion of the government bailing out a failing industry is utterly repulsive. If an entire industry is going bankrupt it is because its way of doing business is becoming obsolete. If that is the case for newspapers, so be it. Adapt or die. The end. Bailing out the newspaper industry will not change the way they do business, nor will it make them any more viable a means of reporting the news than they are today. What it will do, however, is have them all standing in line for the next handout when history repeats itself over and over as a result of their undeniable incompetence and inability to accept that the world, and how people are learning about the news that goes on around it, are changing. We live in a nation whose government sees its role as a corporate and big-business savior simply because those in charge within those industries haven't the sense and foresight to evolve along with the world around them. Newspapers have had the opportunity to change their business models for some time now, and they've refused. They've spat in the face of technological evolution and they should pay the price for their short-sightedness and inability to adapt to the new technology-based world. It makes me ill to think that even a fraction of a cent of my tax dollars will continue to go to bail out industries that should, quite simply, cease to exist - like the thousands of small businesses that fail annually. Apparently, though, the rules for big business are staggeringly different than the rules for the rest of us. The notion of the government bailing out a failing industry is utterly repulsive. If an entire industry is going bankrupt it is because its way of doing business is becoming obsolete. If that is the case for newspapers, so be it. Adapt or die. The end.

Bailing out the newspaper industry will not change the way they do business, nor will it make them any more viable a means of reporting the news than they are today. What it will do, however, is have them all standing in line for the next handout when history repeats itself over and over as a result of their undeniable incompetence and inability to accept that the world, and how people are learning about the news that goes on around it, are changing.

We live in a nation whose government sees its role as a corporate and big-business savior simply because those in charge within those industries haven’t the sense and foresight to evolve along with the world around them.

Newspapers have had the opportunity to change their business models for some time now, and they’ve refused. They’ve spat in the face of technological evolution and they should pay the price for their short-sightedness and inability to adapt to the new technology-based world.

It makes me ill to think that even a fraction of a cent of my tax dollars will continue to go to bail out industries that should, quite simply, cease to exist – like the thousands of small businesses that fail annually. Apparently, though, the rules for big business are staggeringly different than the rules for the rest of us.

]]> By: If You Force Me to Change, I’ll Fight You « Be Innovation http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2770369 If You Force Me to Change, I’ll Fight You « Be Innovation Thu, 28 May 2009 15:03:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2770369 [...] are being forced to change, and because of that, they are fighting that change.  It’s time to rethink distribution, rethink salaried reporters, rethink free [...] [...] are being forced to change, and because of that, they are fighting that change.  It’s time to rethink distribution, rethink salaried reporters, rethink free [...]

]]> By: Newspapers up in the AIR... | yesterdayshero http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2755593 Newspapers up in the AIR... | yesterdayshero Tue, 19 May 2009 12:01:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2755593 [...] more news on the state of the newspaper industry. A look at a potential newspaper bailout in the US in an attempt to save “journalism”. There is also still talk about the [...] [...] more news on the state of the newspaper industry. A look at a potential newspaper bailout in the US in an attempt to save “journalism”. There is also still talk about the [...]

]]> By: Zach Wise » Daily Digest for 2009-05-18 http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2755343 Zach Wise » Daily Digest for 2009-05-18 Tue, 19 May 2009 08:13:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2755343 [...] Bookmarked a link on Delicious. If The Watchdogs Are Saved: Ethical Repercussions Of A Newspaper Bailout [...] [...] Bookmarked a link on Delicious. If The Watchdogs Are Saved: Ethical Repercussions Of A Newspaper Bailout [...]

]]> By: Dans sigue queriendo enterrar a los periódicos (como si no tuvieran edición de Internet desde hace décadas) « El blog de Enrique Dans http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2755108 Dans sigue queriendo enterrar a los periódicos (como si no tuvieran edición de Internet desde hace décadas) « El blog de Enrique Dans Tue, 19 May 2009 05:21:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2755108 [...] Mayo 19, 2009 Dans sigue queriendo enterrar a los periódicos (como si no tuvieran edición de Internet desde hace décadas) Posted by clondans under Clonando día a día | Etiquetas: Cancamusa, periódicos | No Comments  La ya comentada crisis de los periódicos empieza a hacer saltar todas las alarmas por lo vertiginoso de su caída, y provoca que desde algunos círculos se empiece a barajar la posibilidad de un bailout, unamaniobra de salvación con dinero de los presupuestos generales del Estado similar al recibido por la banca durante la última crisis, y de cuáles serían las implicaciones éticas y para la democracia. [...] [...] Mayo 19, 2009 Dans sigue queriendo enterrar a los periódicos (como si no tuvieran edición de Internet desde hace décadas) Posted by clondans under Clonando día a día | Etiquetas: Cancamusa, periódicos | No Comments  La ya comentada crisis de los periódicos empieza a hacer saltar todas las alarmas por lo vertiginoso de su caída, y provoca que desde algunos círculos se empiece a barajar la posibilidad de un bailout, unamaniobra de salvación con dinero de los presupuestos generales del Estado similar al recibido por la banca durante la última crisis, y de cuáles serían las implicaciones éticas y para la democracia. [...]

]]> By: Sobre Tecnologia » ¿Salvar a los periódicos con dinero público? ¿A qué estamos jugando? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2754713 Sobre Tecnologia » ¿Salvar a los periódicos con dinero público? ¿A qué estamos jugando? Tue, 19 May 2009 00:31:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2754713 [...] La ya comentada crisis de los periódicos empieza a hacer saltar todas las alarmas por lo vertiginoso de su caída, y provoca que desde algunos círculos se empiece a barajar la posibilidad de un bailout, una maniobra de salvación con dinero de los presupuestos generales del Estado similar al recibido por la banca durante la última crisis, y de cuáles serían las implicaciones éticas y para la democracia. [...] [...] La ya comentada crisis de los periódicos empieza a hacer saltar todas las alarmas por lo vertiginoso de su caída, y provoca que desde algunos círculos se empiece a barajar la posibilidad de un bailout, una maniobra de salvación con dinero de los presupuestos generales del Estado similar al recibido por la banca durante la última crisis, y de cuáles serían las implicaciones éticas y para la democracia. [...]

]]> By: EvilDave http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2754399 EvilDave Mon, 18 May 2009 22:05:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2754399 It isn't about basing our economy on failed industries. It is about political payback. The unions and news media worked very hard for Obama, this is their reward. It isn’t about basing our economy on failed industries. It is about political payback. The unions and news media worked very hard for Obama, this is their reward.

]]> By: 报纸、内容、付费 | 优比客 http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2754354 报纸、内容、付费 | 优比客 Mon, 18 May 2009 21:32:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2754354 [...] 昨天，TechCrunch的一篇文章提到了最近美国政府出手援助报纸行业的计划。对于拯救报纸行业，美国参议员John Kerry的说法是： [...] [...] 昨天，TechCrunch的一篇文章提到了最近美国政府出手援助报纸行业的计划。对于拯救报纸行业，美国参议员John Kerry的说法是： [...]

]]> By: Preternatural http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2754270 Preternatural Mon, 18 May 2009 20:49:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2754270 There are several factors that have contributed to the demise of the news paper industry: their unwillingness to 'sincerely' pursue new modes of delivery, chief among them. This problem was only made worse during the Bush years in which the news papers repeatedly stopped reporting news, encouraged not reporting the news and removed those who attempted to report the news. This lead to a lack of trust for an industry that must be trusted and became a crisis. The result was an industry already shedding readers accelerating its demise by shunning readers that were interested in some semblance of the truth as opposed to the Administration press junkets masquerading vetted reporting. The conflicts referenced above are very real if not outright hazards. The concern of Government running banks is laughable but palatable compared to it even remotely being intertwined with the Press: a nightmare of the literal worst proportions. There are several factors that have contributed to the demise of the news paper industry: their unwillingness to ’sincerely’ pursue new modes of delivery, chief among them. This problem was only made worse during the Bush years in which the news papers repeatedly stopped reporting news, encouraged not reporting the news and removed those who attempted to report the news. This lead to a lack of trust for an industry that must be trusted and became a crisis. The result was an industry already shedding readers accelerating its demise by shunning readers that were interested in some semblance of the truth as opposed to the Administration press junkets masquerading vetted reporting.

The conflicts referenced above are very real if not outright hazards. The concern of Government running banks is laughable but palatable compared to it even remotely being intertwined with the Press: a nightmare of the literal worst proportions.

]]> By: James http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2754050 James Mon, 18 May 2009 18:32:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2754050 Almost every fiscal action taken by Baracko has raised ethical flags. All of his fanboys followers need to wake up, he is selling America down the river. Almost every fiscal action taken by Baracko has raised ethical flags. All of his fanboys followers need to wake up, he is selling America down the river.

]]> By: Lou Natick http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753989 Lou Natick Mon, 18 May 2009 17:50:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753989 Great article, but it's not really what I'm getting at. Where we get our editorials doesn't really matter. You don't need hard sources to write an editorial. Great article, but it’s not really what I’m getting at. Where we get our editorials doesn’t really matter. You don’t need hard sources to write an editorial.

]]> By: sYgnal http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753988 sYgnal Mon, 18 May 2009 17:49:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753988 I guess, while you're basing "bailout" on the amount of taxpayer loss, I'm basing it on the inquiry : "Why should a private company receive public assistance?" Why should my hard earned money go towards helping any greedy CEO,not just the Newspaper Industry, that didn't have the foresight to embrace technology & their employees rather than their own shallow agendas. They had plenty of opportunities to invest in their future & they failed. It's called Capitalism for a reason! I didn't see them sharing the wealth when they were riding high,but, now I should have to give what little I earn to help an irrelevant dinosaur that panders fluff on paper in the face of our current environment crisis... Yea, Sure. I guess, while you’re basing “bailout” on the amount of taxpayer loss, I’m basing it on the inquiry : “Why should a private company receive public assistance?”

Why should my hard earned money go towards helping any greedy CEO,not just the Newspaper Industry, that didn’t have the foresight to embrace technology & their employees rather than their own shallow agendas.

They had plenty of opportunities to invest in their future & they failed. It’s called Capitalism for a reason! I didn’t see them sharing the wealth when they were riding high,but, now I should have to give what little I earn to help an irrelevant dinosaur that panders fluff on paper in the face of our current environment crisis… Yea, Sure.

]]> By: beachmom http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753890 beachmom Mon, 18 May 2009 16:27:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753890 I watched the hearing, and there is absolutely no talk of bailing out the newspaper industry. When I say bailout, I mean sending taxpayer dollars to newspapers. I think that distinction needs to be made here. A few tax rule tweaks does not amount to a bailout. I watched the hearing, and there is absolutely no talk of bailing out the newspaper industry. When I say bailout, I mean sending taxpayer dollars to newspapers. I think that distinction needs to be made here. A few tax rule tweaks does not amount to a bailout.

]]> By: beachmom http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753887 beachmom Mon, 18 May 2009 16:23:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753887 Actually, it is more complicated than that. The traditional media is relying more and more on bloggers for stories, including The Economist and the New York Times: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/18/parasites/index.html I think it goes both ways. But tellingly, local newspapers are doing less and less investigative reporting. Actually, it is more complicated than that. The traditional media is relying more and more on bloggers for stories, including The Economist and the New York Times:

http://www.salo...ites/index.html

I think it goes both ways. But tellingly, local newspapers are doing less and less investigative reporting.

]]> By: sYgnal http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753884 sYgnal Mon, 18 May 2009 16:21:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753884 Hmmm... Seems the only companies/people worthy of a bail-out are the financially & morally retarded. Kind of like the change wasted on the homeless in Harvard square...Thanks Obama! Hmmm… Seems the only companies/people worthy of a bail-out are the financially & morally retarded.

Kind of like the change wasted on the homeless in Harvard square…Thanks Obama!

]]> By: beachmom http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753883 beachmom Mon, 18 May 2009 16:19:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753883 Well, there is a difference. The car got you from Point A to Point B. The jury is still out if the internet can take over local news reporting. So far, it has not done so. I think we may undergo a dark period where newspapers die and there is nothing to replace what they do. Local politicians will love that. Well, there is a difference. The car got you from Point A to Point B. The jury is still out if the internet can take over local news reporting. So far, it has not done so.

I think we may undergo a dark period where newspapers die and there is nothing to replace what they do. Local politicians will love that.

]]> By: New Media Hub | Blog Archive | Around the web - 5/18 http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753788 New Media Hub | Blog Archive | Around the web - 5/18 Mon, 18 May 2009 15:03:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753788 [...] If The Watchdogs Are Saved: Ethical Repercussions Of A Newspaper Bailout (Techcrunch) [...] [...] If The Watchdogs Are Saved: Ethical Repercussions Of A Newspaper Bailout (Techcrunch) [...]

]]> By: Lou Natick http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753721 Lou Natick Mon, 18 May 2009 14:03:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753721 You have no understanding of professional journalism. You have no understanding of professional journalism.

]]> By: jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753706 jason Mon, 18 May 2009 13:47:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753706 I couldn't agree more! Why does Obama want our economy to be based on inudstries that cannot survive on their own. It will actually make our economy worse in the long run. Its regrowth! Let the forest burn! I couldn’t agree more! Why does Obama want our economy to be based on inudstries that cannot survive on their own. It will actually make our economy worse in the long run.

Its regrowth! Let the forest burn!

]]> By: jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753702 jason Mon, 18 May 2009 13:45:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753702 No, we don't need them at all. I am pretty sure you have heard of the internet as you just used it correct? Let all the journalist find jobs at a local blog and be done with it. No, we don’t need them at all. I am pretty sure you have heard of the internet as you just used it correct?

Let all the journalist find jobs at a local blog and be done with it.

]]> By: Newspapers and Realtors | Real Central VA http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753594 Newspapers and Realtors | Real Central VA Mon, 18 May 2009 12:08:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753594 [...] TechCrunch [...] [...] TechCrunch [...]

]]> By: Lou Natick http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753446 Lou Natick Mon, 18 May 2009 09:27:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753446 That a few journalists can successfully transition does not mean that an industry can. And we need an industry's worth of investigative political journalists to keep the government in check. Journalists who work with PR people in the Valley, by the way, don't face the same challenges that investigative reporters in Washington do, e.g. getting high ranking political officials for sources. Good luck making that happen without the name of a respected newspaper behind you. That a few journalists can successfully transition does not mean that an industry can. And we need an industry’s worth of investigative political journalists to keep the government in check. Journalists who work with PR people in the Valley, by the way, don’t face the same challenges that investigative reporters in Washington do, e.g. getting high ranking political officials for sources. Good luck making that happen without the name of a respected newspaper behind you.

]]> By: Pathik http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753445 Pathik Mon, 18 May 2009 09:25:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753445 Everyone is running around crying for bailouts these days. What happened to the "Survival of the fittest?" Everyone is running around crying for bailouts these days. What happened to the “Survival of the fittest?”

]]> By: greg http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/17/if-the-watchdogs-are-saved-ethical-repercussions-of-a-newspaper-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-2753443 greg Mon, 18 May 2009 09:21:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=65489#comment-2753443 @George "Should we have kept the floppy drive business afloat?" We should support all outdated industries if it means more votes. Lets exchange pro newspaper legislation, for pro politician news coverage. @George “Should we have kept the floppy drive business afloat?”

We should support all outdated industries if it means more votes.

Lets exchange pro newspaper legislation, for pro politician news coverage.

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