
Wolfram Alpha is an early primitive. The new search engine that everybody is gushing over and that even Sergey Brin is keeping an eye on, is set to launch on Monday and may soft-launch as early as later today. If you can’t wait that long the first 50 TechCrunch readers to send an email to techcrunchpreview@wolfram.com will get invited to a fully-functioning preview. (Update: invites are way gone). Or check out this screencast, which goes through some examples of what Wolfram Alpha can do.
I’ve been putting Wolfram Alpha through the paces for the past few days and I come away impressed, but not super-impressed. Wolfram Alpha is obviously at a very early stage of development (hence the “alpha” in the name), and it does show a lot of promise. It is certainly not going to be another Cuil, the once-stealth search engine which fell flat on its face at launch. But given all the hype that is surrounding Wolfram Alpha’s launch, the already-brimming rivalry with Google, and the fact that it just bought a supercomputer to help handle its expected load, it needs to be evaluated seriously and without a handicap. When the company states on its blog that its algorithms “include some of the most sophisticated ever developed” it is helping to set expectations pretty high.
Wolfram Alpha is not a regular search engine. It doesn’t scour the Web for data to return the best results. Rather, it ingests data into its own massive databases so that it can run the information through its own constantly-growing set of algorithms to “compute” the answers. These algorithms are based on computer scientist Stephen Wolfram’s Mathematicasoftware. When it does come up with an answer, it can be brilliant. Scientists, engineers, and math geeks are going to love Wolfram Alpha. It can do calculus, regression analysis, compute orbital paths and fluid dynamics, and call up detailed information about specific genes. But too often it doesn’t have the best answers for basic questions and searches.
For instance, it doesn’t do so well with searches for people who are not famous. I tried a vanity search of my name, for instance, and it came back with the distance between Erick, Oklahoma and the town of Schonfeld in Saxony, Germany (5,248 miles).

A search for “techcrunch” came up with nothing. Company names work better for publicly traded companies. You get the stock price and financial data when you search for “Google.” A search for Facebook turns up Alexa data about the site such as pageviews and daily visitors (Alexa is not always the most accurate source for this sort of Web data, however). When I asked, “How much is Facebook worth?” it was comically flummoxed, responding: “Wolfram Alpha isn’t sure what to do with your input.” To be fair, nobody (person or computer) in the world knows the answer to that question.

How about when it does have an answer? I asked it “How fast does hair grow?” It came back with “0.4 mm/day.” It also gave me the answer in nanometers per second (5) and millimeters per year (100). It also knows the “distance between the moon and New York City” (250,842 miles right now), as well as the “Answer to Life, the Universe, and everything,” which is “42″ (as anyone who has read the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy will tell you, as will Google).

Even when Wolfram does have an answer, it is not always the best one. For instance, a search for “new york state unemployment” brings up a 4.5 percent unemployment rate from 2006 (see screen shot above). That answer is completely useless if you want to know the current unemployment rate in New York State, which is 8.1 percent and which turns up as the first result on Google. I chose this search because Google recently added some basic structured data to searches for U.S. unemployment and population. Google pulls these results directly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, whereas Wolfram can only compute information based on the data it has already ingested.
When I do a search for “New York versus California,” Wolfram Alpha comes up with a wealth of trivia, including population, state capitals, the dates they joined the Union, their locations highlighted on a map, land area, highest points, lowest points, number of households, number of businesses, median household income, and more. All of this information is great, but is it the best information? Much of the data is from 2002. The population numbers are from 2006. Search for “New York state population” on Google and you get a July, 2008 estimate pulled straight from the U.S. Census Bureau.

Of course, Google doesn’t provide all of the other contextual data in one convenient search result, but its answer for that one variable is better. All Wolfram has to do, though, to beat Google is update its data, right? That is easy enough. It is already an amazing resource and it will only get better over time. But there is a question of scale and approach here. Wolfram needs supercomputers to “compute” its answers. It is not searching for answers that are already out there. Supercomputers are expensive and generally don’t scale cost-effectively. Beyond that is the issue of whether Wolfram can ingest enough data fast enough to always be up to date, versus finding the best, most current answer to any query on the Web. To put it another way, can Wolfram Alpha ever become smarter than the Web? That simply does not compute.
Finally, it is not as though Web isn’t evolving as well. Wolfram needs to store all of the data it sifts through in its own databases because that is how it imposes structure on the data. The Web is messy and unstructured. Yet there is a general movement afoot to impose structure on the data found across the Web. Everyone from semantic search startups to Google itself is making the Web more computable by categorizing the information on it in a way that computers can understand and manipulate more easily. Of course, to the extent that happens, Wolfram Alpha can take advantage of it as well.
In search, whoever can come up with the best answer wins. As promising as it is, that isn’t Wolfram Alpha yet.









Meh. Will give it a shot…
I’ve tried it and it is quite brilliant.
It is NOT Google.
But if Wolfram Alpha buys a company like http://www.yauba.com or http://www.ask.com and puts them together, then it will make Google crap in their pants.
There will be nothing like it.
It’s the revenge of the Alphas
Any notice that Alpha products are starting to KICK THE ASSES of most full release products?
http://www.yauba.com is in late alpha
http://www.wolframalpha.com is in full alpha
WTF?
I remember when betas were most broken half asses pieces of garbles code. Not alphas are as polished and impressive as anything out there.
I for one can’t wait until these products like Yauba and Wolfram come out of their alphas … maybe that will be enough to get the tech economy back on track
Alpha or no alpha, as long as these sites more Americans outsource more of their brains to machines, our future foreign overlords will be happy.
No wonder non immigrant Americans are close to the bottom of the world in math and science … maybe if they had to do some thinking for a change instead of plugging things into a computer and expecting an instant answer, they would develop some proper thinking skills.
And no Wolfram is not American. He is British.
“A search for “techcrunch” came up with nothing.”
What about: techcrunch.com?
http://www.wolf...=techcrunch.com
Daily pageviews: 3.2 million
Daily visitors: 1.7 million
You can even divide this by subdomains:
techcrunch.com 1.4 million
crunchies2008.techcrunch.com 130 K
jp.techcrunch.com 40 K
search.techcrunch.com 36.7 K
etc. etc.
Maybe not the most accurate data available… but it gives me a good impression of your visitors data
I don’t think the data is accurate. It says that my blog receives around 31,000 visitors a day, where as it’s actually only around 1000 a day O_o
I wish I have 31,000 visitors a day
Possibly, but I think it’s much more likely that Google would try to buy WA, rather than WA trying to buy some other search engine.
No Wolfram will just build his own search engine. Wolfram is much smarter than Craig Silverstein. Compared to SW, Craig is a CS/math wimp.
Let’s just say Brin, Page and Silverstein could not have built Mathematica if their lives depended on it.
Agree with Fissure Down. Wolfram wrote a book on particle physics when he was 14 (yes, fourteen) and published a research paper on it when he was 18. By the time he was 20 he had already completed his PhD.
Yeah, I guess it’ll be pretty simple for Google to do much better than any other search engine going forward. Google just acquire some real-time search engines and plug in their ranking system and that’s it. With the rise of twitter, there are many real-time search engines like http://www.boilingpage.com, http://tweetmeem.com etc .. They do good job in bringing real time contents.
You don’t understand what Wolfram Alpha does. Nor has this article’s author tried doing what it can do. Try entering “eigenvalues {{3,-1},{2,-2}}” in it.
@ssj4Gogeta,
You don’t need Wolfram Alpha for that. Wolfram Mathematica can do it. So, why Wolfram Alpha? It is inferior to Google.
Because Wolfram|Alpha is free and easier to use, and Mathematica costs money and has a relatively hard-to-learn syntax. (I use mathematica though, get it from my school)
True true….
I think its a cool service and is quite useful. Can say thumbs up to their product…as of now.
http://yousuggest.us
I’m just peeved at the 50 invites. That’s pathetic. Techcrunch should have a minimum cut (500?) to keep the trigger-happy site trolls happy. I mean, if a new web app can’t handle a 500 user burst, is it really viable anyway?
Couldn’t agree more. 50 invites is a slap in the face to any web community. Those are like national lottery odds. Lame.
As a follow up, I tried a simple search “what is the largest impact crater”
Just to test. Wolfram returned: Wolfram|Alpha isn’t sure what to do with your input.
Related inputs to try:
impact crater
I clicked on impact crater and got this: Assuming “impact” is referring to materials | Use as referring to materials instead
And this happened for about 50-75% of questions I asked that were very BASIC like this.
yeah,it’s really good!
and find that we can also vistit
http://www.wolpha.com
“wolpha” is the combination of “wolfram”and “alpha”.And it is said that Wolfram is going to use the short domain.
no matter is true or not
It’s really convenient! We would rather not type into 12 letters before searching.
wolpha.com does not appear to be owned by the same people as wolframalpha.com. It’s a nice domain for a short version of it though. Maybe you should approach them with a reasonable offer to sell it to them ;0)
Don’t know if any of you guys have seen this already but here is a great webcast of the Wolfram Alpha control centre as they prepare to go live!!!. There are interviews with the man himself and also his techinical team. The control centre controls 5 seperate distributed clusters; the webcast is a great insight into how large scale datacentres are implemented and maintained. http://www.just...dd6b9f07e7f8a4e
Definitely worth checking out.
Dear Mr Erick Schonfeld,
Wolfram is working on one of the most ground breaking technologies to date and all you do for the next two days is try to tear it apart and find holes.. Dude its called alpha for a reason.. as the definition suggests “just the beginning”!
Your constant comparison to google is irritating, just goes to show you are to narrow minded to understand what wolfram is trying to create here.. ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOGLE!
You complain “it doesn’t do so well with searches for people who are not famous. I tried a vanity search of my name, for instance”
Dude who the f*ck are you?
I put to that if Einstein were alive today , This is the type of thing her would be working on..
Someone fire this clown, seriously..
There’s nothing wrong with trying to find holes in something. That is how we improve things.
But I do agree, This isn’t really a google competitor.
Agreed.
Just was watching the screencast and it ROCKS!!
I don’t care if Erick Schonfield or Techcrunch doesn’t appear in the results… if it can do (only) all of the things that is presented in the screencast.. you can already put this next to Google and Wikipedia!
I agree also… what type of dip sh*t uses a Mathematica based engine to run a vanity search on his name….
Wolfram has maintained since day 1 that WolframAlpha was conceived, developed and released NOT as a competitor to Google, but as a compliment to. It would only be fair to mention that in your incredibly lazy article… I can’t believe you f*ckers pass as journalists these days….
completely agree with chris.
just be glad MG did not write this, it would have been compared to Twitter search
You can try it here…
http://www.wolf...mp;equal=Submit
It worked for me anyway
without an invitation I might add
This did work!!!! thanks Seb… and evidently a search for “Techcrunch” doesn’t come up with “nothing” Eric… you sir, are an idiot.
“evidently a search for “Techcrunch” doesn’t come up with “nothing””
(any more)
Interesting discussion at CNN..
http://scitech....nd-data-online/
Similar discussions at CNN
http://scitech....nd-data-online/
Looking forward to using it. I saw the screencast. Impressed. Hope I get the invite code
It is pretty cool eh..
I look forward to using this and I think it will take some marketshare of my search time.
id try it
I’ll definitely be giving it a try – still lots of questions for me. I think one of the biggest hurdles will be to untrain people on Google. The Value-Add has to be significant enough for people to think, “Hey, it’s worth my super-short online attention span to check this out.” Do I think it’s there based on what I’ve seen? Not yet. Maybe soon? We’ll see.
I’ve been waiting for a peek.
I’ve been curious for a while, I’d love to get an invite.
I wouldnt mind an invite
\o/
hey eric…
i could hace said the exact same thing about google when it first came out, if i had compared it against altavista at the time…
your comparisons are like someone comparing shaq when he was 10 against george mikan…
give wolfram alpha a few years, and then compare the systems… assuming wolfram alpha gets there…
Wasn’t that kind of his point, its not really impressive now but its got the potential, so give it time?
For the last time, Wolfram Alpha is not designed to compete against Google. This is like trying to compare Excel against Photoshop.
Trying to say a product that retrieves information from the web based on short text based user inputs doesn’t compete with Google is like trying to say Ford doesn’t compete with GM for marketshare in personal transportation.
Perhaps they are claiming it “Wasn’t designed to compete with Google”, but it most definitely does, and thinking otherwise is a grave error.
It doesn’t retrieve info from the web, it isn’t meant to compete with Google and you don’t know what Wolfram Alpha is.
@ssj4Gogeta: AFAIK yes it does pull some data from the web.
The fundamental different between google and WA is that google connects users with information sources, WA connects users with information.
Google connects users with information sources. WA connects users with information from 2006.
haha true! well, the natural language processing is the important part; they can acquire more up to date information sources as they move into beta.
This is a bad metaphor. Google was hugely scalable and Altavista wasn’t, so even when Google was small its potential reach was very clear, and this was an advantage against its competition.
WA is a gimmick and is not scalable at all. It will answer some limited set of questions, and it will do it using the data given to it, which will rapidly go out of date. The author of this post asserts that they just have to update the data…except that is difficult when you don’t rely on a universal algorithm to automatically grab it.
There is just no way WA even approaches Google. It has gotten far too much attention on this blog given its massive limitations.
I feel the same, I don’t see how they will keep data up to date and scale up to move beyond answers such as “what is the distance between NYC and LA”.
I read somewhere that they also need a large team of people to validate the data they collect from the internet, which kinds of kill the concept.
This is awfully revisionist. Altavista was producing very usable results from a software POV and it was owned by a company that specialized in high performance computing. Suggesting it wasn’t scalable is silly.
And Google was a relatively minor website that looked nothing like the successful search sites of the time. It was an academic project.
And truth be told, the only real innovation google introduced at that time– pagerank — wasn’t scalable after all. It was far too open to abuse and its influence on search the results has diminished.
Lawrence, not sure how you can’t even see (potential) promise in Wolfram.
Frankly I’m tired of seeing articles on websites that can link you and friends and their pets together. It’s a shame how much energy gets wasted in the pursuit of building shit. At least these guys are trying to build something novel using a radical approach that could deliver real value.
Too much attention on Wolfram? Well then, I think I saw some blogs devoted solely to Kindle rumors you might like.
It isn’t meant to compete with Google, it isn’t a search engine.
Limitations? It’s like saying a helmet has limitations because it can’t write like a pencil. It was never made to.
Try this:
input “d/dx Si(x)^2″ into Wolfram Alpha and Google. And see which is limited.
I put it into Google first, and stopped. First result is Wolfram Alpha.
It does look promising, if it’s impressive in alpha hopefully it’ll be something worth using when it releases fully. Hopefully they’ll learn a lot from what happens over the next few weeks, it’s excellent to see a startup that’s doing something differently, but also planning it well.
I look forward to using it, hopefully by this time next year it’ll be the main destination for knowledge, it won’t overtake google though.
Love to see how this works out, love to get an invite!
Very impressive! Wanna try!
Would love an invite
me too
I’m interested. I love trivia engines and obsure data.
I would love an invite @tranziq
I would love to try it
I’d love to have an invite also
I would try it for sure
With all of the hype around this I’ve been dying to give it a shot. May I have an invite?
You could read the post and follow the instructions, good plan I think.
There’s a high tendency for people to bash new search engines when they launch. You left that one on a sour note. Wolfram clearly has great potential. Once it becomes more pop culture friendly I can see many people using it over Google for simple requests.
As a scientist however, I don’t see this performing well with science based users for the simple reason that there often is no one correct answer and data varies across studies that evaluate the same phenomenon. I would imagine that it would fair quite well with mathematicians though.
What if Wolfram|Alpha presents multiple answers to queries? Would that answer those from imperfect sciences, or really imperfect sciences such as economics?
I’m still trying to figure out whether Wolfram|Alpha is a floor wax or a dessert topping, but presumably its usefulness is highest for items that lend themselves to some type of computation. Unfortunately, it sounds like the stale data may adversely impact its computational ability, at least in the short term.
I think a simple set of links offering up other results/stats reported for a particular topic of interest (i.e. heart disease, diabetes, etc.) would be a perfect solution. Wolfram just needs to inform the user that there isn’t only one answer to these kinds of questions.
First off, this ain’t a search engine and it doesn’t search the web. It searches its own database.
There are so many scientific questions for which answers are objective or can be at least given to a reasonable approximation. Besides, even if can’t do anything else, it will, at least be a access to Mathematica.
would appreciate an invite, thanks!
I’d love an invite too!! Always up for new search engines!
The reason Cuil failed is because of its stupid f***ing name. I bet half of the people don’t even know how to pronounce it correctly, so nobody wants to recommend it to anybody because they don’t want to make an ass out of themselves. Plus it doesn’t have that nice ring to it like “I’m going to Google Techcrunch”. “Hey I’m going to Cuil Techcrunch.” That just sounds retarded.
cooo-il?
coy-il?
ku-il
cool?
coil?
I’m not sure. I don’t think anybody knows how to pronounce it correctly.
It’s sort of like oooooc.com, not a terrible service in theory, but a stupid stupid name.
you’d prefer people want to “wolfram techcrunch”
lol
thank you igor. you said it. ugly name with a black homepage. just saying the name can give a person flashbacks. you can add wolfram alpha to the “nice try pool.”
cuil
wikisearch
wolfram alpha
wolfram alpha has a better layout result page than googl. outside of that Wolfram will never be a major search engine contender. the future of the internet starts with domain names (natural language location) and if you dont believe me maybe you will believe the inventor of the internet. he just might know a thing or two.
Index video to 6:05.
http://www.ted....lks/view/id/484
bottom line is the future of internet discovery is all about “open social natural language linked raw data.” whom ever creates the greatest natural language location based social engine may just win the digital media search wars.
KillerLocator.com – easy prey
Meanwhile, you will continue to waste time with your stupid:
ifellatemyselflocator.com — I blow
Sounds interesting. I’ll give it a go, please!
would love an invite as well. thank you
I’d love an invite. Cause shoot, I can’t wait till tonight and all
Any chance for an invite ?
Neat! How do I get an invite?
Invite, please.
Still any invite availaible?
Any invites left? I’d like one.
Invite please.
Invite please. Muchos Gracias.
Looks intriguing. Love an invite, if there are any left.
Would love to try it.
Thank you for the post, really informative! I would like to get an invite, s’il vous plait.
Invite if you have any left please.
tnx
I’d take one
Any chance for an invite?
Am I too late for an Invite? If not, can I have one too? Thanks!
would love to get an early invite!… Thanks!
I would love an invite. Please?
Invite please, if you have a spare. Cheers, William
Invite please
I’d love to dig into WA
Invite, Please
From the post:
Shhhh, don’t tell them! Let them wonder why they don’t have an invite.
Whoever didn’t take the time to even read the first paragraph doesn’t deserve an invite…
I emailed before any comments were posted, story had been up <1 min and I didn’t get an invite
Taken too fast!
@citricsquid – don’t worry, it should be live in the next few hours