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		<title>By: How will these &#8220;web 3.0&#8243; trends affect your business? &#171; Commune &#124; Internet Marketing Optimization</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-3078911</link>
		<dc:creator>How will these &#8220;web 3.0&#8243; trends affect your business? &#171; Commune &#124; Internet Marketing Optimization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for web content? Well, yes and no. With over one billion downloads, the Apple app store reportedly makes $1 million a day in application sales. Traditional websites, however, still tend to fail at pay-wall experiments. So it appears that just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: iPhone app Reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-3041346</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone app Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides the Apple guys, no one will really know those true revenue numbers.  All you really need to know right now is that they are doing pretty well for themselves.</description>
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		<title>By: Happy Appiversary! &#171; Mobile Presence</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-2848837</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Appiversary! &#171; Mobile Presence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 60,000+ apps 1billion+ downloads and a mysterious revenue figure somewhere between $20-$95 million. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Festejando un año de Apple App Store &#124; Eunomia Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-2842130</link>
		<dc:creator>Festejando un año de Apple App Store &#124; Eunomia Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] números de la App Store: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/ Cómo es desarrollar para Blackberry: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Gladwell tries to debunk Chris Anderson&#8217;s FREE. &#124; Midas Oracle .NET</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-2829362</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Gladwell tries to debunk Chris Anderson&#8217;s FREE. &#124; Midas Oracle .NET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - I don&#8217;t think that iPhone downloads are that big: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP &#124; Techdare</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-2/#comment-2801790</link>
		<dc:creator>The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP &#124; Techdare</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] of money behind all of this. The App Store is already a big business for many developers, and increasingly for Apple itself. And when Apple launches the in-app payment system in the iPhone 3.0 software due next week, I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of money behind all of this. The App Store is already a big business for many developers, and increasingly for Apple itself. And when Apple launches the in-app payment system in the iPhone 3.0 software due next week, I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ArticleSave :: Uncategorized :: The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArticleSave :: Uncategorized :: The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of money behind all of this. The App Store is already a big business for many developers, and increasingly for Apple itself. And when Apple launches the in-app payment system in the iPhone 3.0 software due next week, I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP &#124; Tech-Framers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2800573</link>
		<dc:creator>The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP &#124; Tech-Framers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of money behind all of this. The App Store is already a big business for many developers, and increasingly for Apple itself. And when Apple launches the in-app payment system in the iPhone 3.0 software due next week, I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of money behind all of this. The App Store is already a big business for many developers, and increasingly for Apple itself. And when Apple launches the in-app payment system in the iPhone 3.0 software due next week, I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aburjubur.com &#187; The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aburjubur.com &#187; The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of money behind all of this. The App Store is already a big business for many developers, and increasingly for Apple itself. And when Apple launches the in-app payment system in the iPhone 3.0 software due next week, I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Update RSS &#187; The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Update RSS &#187; The App Store Needs A Genius Feature, ASAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of money behind all of this. The App Store is already a big business for many developers, and increasingly for Apple itself. And when Apple launches the in-app payment system in the iPhone 3.0 software due next week, I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mobile Operator Smart Pipes And Applications (2) &#171; consultaglobal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2774421</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Operator Smart Pipes And Applications (2) &#171; consultaglobal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Lightspeed Venture Partners estimated that Apple had made only somewhere between $20 and $45 million dollars in revenue off of the App Store (&#8230;) Dan Frommer of Silicon Alley Insider has this exactly right: the App Store is one of the, if not the, key driver of two products that are very high margin: The iPhone and the iPod touch (&#8230;) no matter if its $50 million, $100 million or $200 million, that’s not a huge amount of money for a company that has nearly $30 billion in cash in the bank. But going forward, that number is only going to increase both as the platform expands and as in-app purchases come into play.&#8221; MG Siegler&#8217;s &#8220;About those iPhone App Store numbers&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Lightspeed Venture Partners estimated that Apple had made only somewhere between $20 and $45 million dollars in revenue off of the App Store (&#8230;) Dan Frommer of Silicon Alley Insider has this exactly right: the App Store is one of the, if not the, key driver of two products that are very high margin: The iPhone and the iPod touch (&#8230;) no matter if its $50 million, $100 million or $200 million, that’s not a huge amount of money for a company that has nearly $30 billion in cash in the bank. But going forward, that number is only going to increase both as the platform expands and as in-app purchases come into play.&#8221; MG Siegler&#8217;s &#8220;About those iPhone App Store numbers&#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2759424</link>
		<dc:creator>Rus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>300,000,000 Americans do not have cellphones.</description>
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		<title>By: Rus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2759423</link>
		<dc:creator>Rus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly when PRECISELY [with a link please] was Steve Jobs caught perjuring himself in court?</description>
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		<title>By: The Great iPhone App Store Profit Debate &#124; iPhoneBlogZone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2755327</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great iPhone App Store Profit Debate &#124; iPhoneBlogZone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 08:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcrunch (via Daring Fireball) provides some interesting analysis on that point, and the larger point on just what Apple may be netting in total: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pat Smellie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2754191</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Smellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Digimark

The things you state as facts are your estimates.  Apple has never published numbers on their costs as far as delivery cost, billing cost and operating expense.  What if delivery cost were .05 and billing cost only .10.  That would change the net profit by .07 per .99.  Your data is not 100% accurate so don&#039;t portray it as fact.  As far as the Ifund, I don&#039;t think the funds came from Apple.  According to the Ifund FAQ
&quot;Kleiner Perkins Caufield &amp; Byers (KPCB) has earmarked $100 million for this initiative and it will be managed by KPCB’s partners. Apple will provide KPCB with market insight and support.&quot;
You make some reasonable assumptions, but save the hyperbole.  My guess is Apple has about a 10% Net profit on the App Store which is similar to Music store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Digimark</p>
<p>The things you state as facts are your estimates.  Apple has never published numbers on their costs as far as delivery cost, billing cost and operating expense.  What if delivery cost were .05 and billing cost only .10.  That would change the net profit by .07 per .99.  Your data is not 100% accurate so don&#8217;t portray it as fact.  As far as the Ifund, I don&#8217;t think the funds came from Apple.  According to the Ifund FAQ<br />
&#8220;Kleiner Perkins Caufield &amp; Byers (KPCB) has earmarked $100 million for this initiative and it will be managed by KPCB’s partners. Apple will provide KPCB with market insight and support.&#8221;<br />
You make some reasonable assumptions, but save the hyperbole.  My guess is Apple has about a 10% Net profit on the App Store which is similar to Music store.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2754042</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATT has activated 6,000,000 iPhones.

There are 300,000,00 Americans.

6,000,000/300,000,000 = .02

2% of American have iPhones.

98% of Americans do not have iPhones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATT has activated 6,000,000 iPhones.</p>
<p>There are 300,000,00 Americans.</p>
<p>6,000,000/300,000,000 = .02</p>
<p>2% of American have iPhones.</p>
<p>98% of Americans do not have iPhones.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2754009</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple does not care if they make money with the App store.

Apple also does not care if they make money with ITMS.

These are both about tying users to a hardware platform.

Apple does like to sell hardware at 50% gross margin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple does not care if they make money with the App store.</p>
<p>Apple also does not care if they make money with ITMS.</p>
<p>These are both about tying users to a hardware platform.</p>
<p>Apple does like to sell hardware at 50% gross margin.</p>
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		<title>By: indie devs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2753419</link>
		<dc:creator>indie devs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 08:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>revenue for indie devs matters more to platform. more people on platform better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>revenue for indie devs matters more to platform. more people on platform better.</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="689585659">Noah Rosenberg</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2753247</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="689585659">Noah Rosenberg</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one seems to be mentioning that the more apps you buy, the more you&#039;re tied to the iPhone platform. If I have 50 apps at the end of my two-year contract, I&#039;m more likely to buy another iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one seems to be mentioning that the more apps you buy, the more you&#8217;re tied to the iPhone platform. If I have 50 apps at the end of my two-year contract, I&#8217;m more likely to buy another iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Monday Morning News &#124; MacTalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday Morning News &#124; MacTalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 21:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Evolution of Apple.com « AppStormApple Is Indeed Talking About Opening iPhone Background TasksAbout Those iPhone App Store Revenue NumbersAppleInsider &#124; Apple execs disclose options for boosting iPhone market shareUsing Capo for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DIGIMARK</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2752625</link>
		<dc:creator>DIGIMARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey dude,

Did you even read the details of my post? 

I stated that the mobile apps range from free to above $10.00! I only used an $0.99 app as an EXAMPLE to demonstrate the breakdown of the economics of the store to show you that the net profit per app after variable and fixed costs is around breakeven or a maximum of $0.02 or around 2%.

The data is 100% accurate...I won&#039;t say any more than that.

MG was saying that the analyst was way out with his estimate of $20-45m and saying that it shoud be higher, more like $90m. However, there is no real breakdown or detailed analysis of how MG arrives at his &#039;estimate&#039;.

There are approximately 20,000+ mobile apps in the store.

The current price distribution breakdown and number of apps in that price range is:

4,660 Free
8,153 $0.01-0.99
2,712 $1.00-1.99
1,291 $2.00-2.99
553    $3.00-3.99
1,134 $4.00-4.99
227    $5.00-5.99
92      $6.00-6.99
120    $7.00-7.99
39      $8.00-8.99
613    $9.00-9.99
803    $10.00 &gt;

The way the store is currently designed, only 100 apps are highly visible which means people are competing for positioning in this top 100 by driving down their price which drives down Apple&#039;s margin and therefore keeps the net profit very low to breakeven. Apple are NOT in it to make a profit from the store as stated by Apple. They simply use it to sell more iPhone which is what they are truly monetising for profit.

75% of the top 100 apps are there because they are between free or up to $0.99. This competition for the top 100 visibility is fierce and as stated, for developers to get visibility they need to keep the price low which is driving down the prices and inevitably it will deter developers from investing. This is unless Apple can come up with a better way of exposing the depth and breadth of apps in the store (consumer discovery), create premium categories, create promo opportunities outside of the top 100 and or possibly differentiate revenue share is developers invest in promotion / marketing etc.

The ratio is the ratio - for evey 11 downloaded apps only one is paid for.

If you have ever worked in marketing you will know that YOU are NOT your customer. Your behaviour means means very little in the total scheme of the economics and customer behaviour associated with the store.

My estimate of net profit to Apple from the store is between $0 and $20m in Year 1, more likely between $0 and $7.5m. But, as I said if you factor in sunk costs to establish the store, the $100m iFund etc it will be 2-3 years minimum before Apple sees any return on investment just on the store itself. But once again there aim is simply to breakeven or just above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey dude,</p>
<p>Did you even read the details of my post? </p>
<p>I stated that the mobile apps range from free to above $10.00! I only used an $0.99 app as an EXAMPLE to demonstrate the breakdown of the economics of the store to show you that the net profit per app after variable and fixed costs is around breakeven or a maximum of $0.02 or around 2%.</p>
<p>The data is 100% accurate&#8230;I won&#8217;t say any more than that.</p>
<p>MG was saying that the analyst was way out with his estimate of $20-45m and saying that it shoud be higher, more like $90m. However, there is no real breakdown or detailed analysis of how MG arrives at his &#8216;estimate&#8217;.</p>
<p>There are approximately 20,000+ mobile apps in the store.</p>
<p>The current price distribution breakdown and number of apps in that price range is:</p>
<p>4,660 Free<br />
8,153 $0.01-0.99<br />
2,712 $1.00-1.99<br />
1,291 $2.00-2.99<br />
553    $3.00-3.99<br />
1,134 $4.00-4.99<br />
227    $5.00-5.99<br />
92      $6.00-6.99<br />
120    $7.00-7.99<br />
39      $8.00-8.99<br />
613    $9.00-9.99<br />
803    $10.00 &gt;</p>
<p>The way the store is currently designed, only 100 apps are highly visible which means people are competing for positioning in this top 100 by driving down their price which drives down Apple&#8217;s margin and therefore keeps the net profit very low to breakeven. Apple are NOT in it to make a profit from the store as stated by Apple. They simply use it to sell more iPhone which is what they are truly monetising for profit.</p>
<p>75% of the top 100 apps are there because they are between free or up to $0.99. This competition for the top 100 visibility is fierce and as stated, for developers to get visibility they need to keep the price low which is driving down the prices and inevitably it will deter developers from investing. This is unless Apple can come up with a better way of exposing the depth and breadth of apps in the store (consumer discovery), create premium categories, create promo opportunities outside of the top 100 and or possibly differentiate revenue share is developers invest in promotion / marketing etc.</p>
<p>The ratio is the ratio &#8211; for evey 11 downloaded apps only one is paid for.</p>
<p>If you have ever worked in marketing you will know that YOU are NOT your customer. Your behaviour means means very little in the total scheme of the economics and customer behaviour associated with the store.</p>
<p>My estimate of net profit to Apple from the store is between $0 and $20m in Year 1, more likely between $0 and $7.5m. But, as I said if you factor in sunk costs to establish the store, the $100m iFund etc it will be 2-3 years minimum before Apple sees any return on investment just on the store itself. But once again there aim is simply to breakeven or just above.</p>
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		<title>By: Rus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 12:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These estimates are WAY off ...

The average person I know has at least 3 paid apps on their phone ...

Let&#039;s look at 3 of mine as an example:

(I have more paid apps, but for attention span we&#039;ll look at 3)

Crash Team Racing $4.99 ... In the recent &quot;Billion Song Celebration&quot; this was listed as one of the top 5 paid apps. Not .99 cents.

Tetris $4.99 ... No gaming device is complete without Tetris ... Also celebrated in &quot;Billion Celebration&quot; as a top 5 app downloaded not just &quot;in all&quot; ... Not a .99 cents app.


iBird Explorer Pro $29.99 ... This app is being featured on an iPhone commercial. I have it. I work in  Best Buy with Apple products ... greater than 50% of the over 25 crowd buying an iPhone are buying the it because of that commercial (in my store) They want that app and the compass app (which I also have and is also NOT .99 cents)

So let&#039;s extrapolate a little bit ... The apps mentioned above are very high volume downloads for every 5-30 downloads of these apps, 5-30 free apps could be downloaded and Apple profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These estimates are WAY off &#8230;</p>
<p>The average person I know has at least 3 paid apps on their phone &#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at 3 of mine as an example:</p>
<p>(I have more paid apps, but for attention span we&#8217;ll look at 3)</p>
<p>Crash Team Racing $4.99 &#8230; In the recent &#8220;Billion Song Celebration&#8221; this was listed as one of the top 5 paid apps. Not .99 cents.</p>
<p>Tetris $4.99 &#8230; No gaming device is complete without Tetris &#8230; Also celebrated in &#8220;Billion Celebration&#8221; as a top 5 app downloaded not just &#8220;in all&#8221; &#8230; Not a .99 cents app.</p>
<p>iBird Explorer Pro $29.99 &#8230; This app is being featured on an iPhone commercial. I have it. I work in  Best Buy with Apple products &#8230; greater than 50% of the over 25 crowd buying an iPhone are buying the it because of that commercial (in my store) They want that app and the compass app (which I also have and is also NOT .99 cents)</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s extrapolate a little bit &#8230; The apps mentioned above are very high volume downloads for every 5-30 downloads of these apps, 5-30 free apps could be downloaded and Apple profits.</p>
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		<title>By: The Great iPhone App Store Profit Debate &#124; iPhone Apps</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2752279</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great iPhone App Store Profit Debate &#124; iPhone Apps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 00:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcrunch (via Daring Fireball) provides whatever engrossing psychotherapy on that point, and the large saucer on meet what Apple haw be network in total: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techcrunch (via Daring Fireball) provides whatever engrossing psychotherapy on that point, and the large saucer on meet what Apple haw be network in total: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2752187</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The highest amount I&#039;ve paid for an iPhone app is Netter&#039;s Anatomy at $39.99.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The highest amount I&#8217;ve paid for an iPhone app is Netter&#8217;s Anatomy at $39.99.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Another iPhone Blog! &#187; The Great iPhone App Store Profit Debate</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/14/about-those-iphone-app-store-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-2752175</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Another iPhone Blog! &#187; The Great iPhone App Store Profit Debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcrunch (via Daring Fireball) provides some interesting analysis on that point, and the larger point on just what Apple may be netting in total: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techcrunch (via Daring Fireball) provides some interesting analysis on that point, and the larger point on just what Apple may be netting in total: [...]</p>
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