There was a lot of buzz last week upon the announcement that Twitter would soon expand its search offering to crawl links tweeted out on top of the tweets themselves. The ramifications of such a move are potentially large, as it would seem to be a way for Twitter to serve up a tailored, real-time view of what’s hot around the web. Who knows how long it will take Twitter to actually do that, but you don’t have to wait — another company, OneRiot, is launching the same functionality today.
And scanning tweets is just a part of what OneRiot plans to offer. Today, it will also launch with a Digg link search, and soon it hopes to roll out live search results from a wide range of social services, Tobias Peggs, the general manager of OneRiot, tells me. But there are two keys to how this will work. The first is that OneRiot is crawling not just tweets and diggs, but is actually crawling the pages behind the links themselves. And second, this is all done in real-time. Content is indexed within 35 seconds, Peggs said.
Big claims are one thing, but how does it actually stack up? Pretty good from my initial tests (running on an incomplete dev server). For example, I did a search for “Spock” (not to be confused with the title of Star Trek III). In the real-time view, I got a glimpse of recent links related to Spock that people have been tweeting out and digging recently. These are done in reverse chronological order, and are constantly updating when someone tweets or diggs another link. (But the same links are bundled together to avoid clutter.)
If you’re more interested in quality over real-time views, you can simply switch to the “Pulse” mode, which shows popular recent links about your query. Both views show not only the link, but who the link was first shared by (on either Twitter or Digg), and can also be expanded to show all the retweets and other users who dugg the link. Those users’ names are all hyperlinks as well to their respective profiles on Twitter or Digg to give them proper credit for the finds.
Unlike FriendFeed, which recently implemented its real-time element, OneRiot takes the “queue” approach, where it indicates at the top of the results that there are new results waiting to be viewed. This is the same thing that Facebook and the actual Twitter Search use. Peggs says they built the system both ways to test it, and that users overwhelmingly favored this queue approach. The actual real-time view made some nauseous, he joked.
But why is OneRiot better than a service like Scoopler, a service we covered the other day that also does real-time search? Well, OneRiot believes the two are simply different. Scoopler is focusing on conversational search (basically what Twitter Search is now, searching for words in tweets), while OneRiot is about content search (more like Google). Eventually, Twitter wants to evolve into a cross between the two, and some reports indicate that Google is also interested in exploring this intersection. But for now, it would seem that OneRiot will have a bit of a head start in parsing the real-time shared web links.
One reason OneRiot believes that real-time content search is more valuable than real-time conversation search, is because conversational search is too easy to spam. We’ve already seen that in some regards when users manipulate the trending items on Twitter. That’s more difficult to do with links because OneRiot is looking at the content of the links and can pull out any that it thinks are spam. That would stop those links from appearing over and over again in the results.
Rather than focusing on making money right now, OneRiot is taking the Twitter approach, and trying to create a product that users will love first. But the future has potential to be pretty bright in terms of monetization when OneRiot decides to turn it on (assuming that it gets a lot of users). According to tests OneRiot has done, real-time searchers are more likely to search multiple queries. And they do so more often throughout a day than those doing a regular web search, according to Peggs. And because OneRiot is looking at the content within links, it can see if a link is to an article talking about Britney Spears wearing some kind of outfit, and will serve up a contextual ad that relates to that. But again, that’s down the road — the users have to come first.
To get those users, the service will first and foremost have to be good at what it does. It’s hard to know exactly how on a large scale OneRiot will stack up to Twitter Search or a simple Google Search for something, because as I mentioned, I’m testing it out on a limited development server right now. When it launches in a few hours, it should be more complete — but it is still very much a work in progress, according to Peggs. Still, the promise of real-time search is great. And it’s certainly more interesting that some of the stuff OneRiot was previously working on.
Being able to get a current look at what hot items people are sharing across social networks on the web is something people want. But can a startup like OneRiot live up to the real-time hype? We shall see.










Is there a reason this is taking up half of the home page?
I guess http://www.boilingpage.com, one of the best real-time search engines is far far better than oneriot. See it for yourself by searching in both.
oneriot is trying to defeat twitter.But still not possible because twitter expand its tools and trying to expand its search features.Oneriot is trying to get Twitter approach its search is cool because it gather Social search.
I doubt oneriot is trying to defeat twitter, if anything it’s in the best interest of oneriot to make sure twitter grows, because if there’s no twitter, there’s no oneriot.
this search kind of sucks
autos: quick fix fail
http://www.epic.../load/8-1-0-345
I don’t know if its just because its early days or what, but even just searching ‘techcrunch’ in one riot shows pretty poor results
WTF? Thats a lot of funding and a lot of staff overhead for something a good Ruby on Rails developer can whip up in 2 days …
You know I was about to really get annoyed at another Twitter post then decided to read it before going to the dark site of the Twitter hateraid.
Funny, for the first time through this article I think I finally realize how important a real-time search could be compared to Google which takes a day or so for search logging.
This is really key for small things like if I wanted to know what the traffic is like on the Belt Pwky in Brooklyn, I can search Tweets and get a sense of traffic based on other people’s updates about their trip to work that morning, i.e “Just got to work, bad accident on belt pkwy”.
Ok i got it now.
This is about 80% of what I use Twitter for currently.
or…
you could listen to the local radio!!!
But wouldn’t you rather read tweets while you drive?
@Zee, yeah I just tried it and it sucks, maybe they haven’t fully implemented it yet. I like twitscoop.com a lot better.
now officially every 3rd post on TC is about twitter.
all good things come to an end, so did TC too.
@zee @igor would love to know if you are seeing any issues. ping me on twitter @tobiaspeggs
I like the concept but they can’t beat http://search.twitter.com model as in twitter millions of users pushing real content and OneRiot robots can’t pull data from external resources so fast.
I tried some words; on which twitter show records just 2 or 3 minutes old but OneRiot shows 2-3 hours old.
Last time I’ll link to this. Grease monkey user script that filters out twitter stories on techcrunch (sorry if you’ve seen it before):
http://www.iizu.../notwit.user.js
Too much pink… I just find pink so dam distracting. The site is too happy. got all these happy colors…
Does not really make sense to me what OneRiot is trying to do here. I don’t see them as a competitor, and their aggregation or link search doesn’t seem as valuable as the same service on Twitter. I need to see more to further understand what it is that OneRiot is actually aiming for.
Results need some tweaking but there is potential here.
The world now revolves around Twitter apparently.
going to be a fun day as we just launched -> http://search.tweetmeme.com
maybe it doesn’t make sense but I searched http://www.worstpizza.com and loved the results, check out what happens
Yup. The real-time "mess" begins too. Bit.ly scoopler twazzup and a slew of others.
Resuts are completely different between OneRiot ant Tweetmeme. Tweetmeme seems to give more links, and OneRiot returns only English websites, but a more complete analysis would be welcome.
Jim, they will be completely different, we are focusing on relevancy + realtime, realtime alone sucks as you get any old shit
hey Zach, the key difference between OneRiot and twitter search is that we’re focused on helping you find the most socially relevant _content_ rather than focus on the _conversation_. Clearly, there’s value in both. but they are different. Look at the star trek example in the article. we show you the blogs, videos and news stories that people on the social web think are important right now. Twitter search will show you that lots of people are talking about star trek right now (some of whom links to interesting stuff). It’s a different spin. Like I said, huge value in both, but different propositions.
hi Nick
hey nick, looks like you guys are not indexing full content on the page like we are? I get some porn when i search for star trek, which is what will happen if you only index the tweet and the title in the link (http://tweetmem...php?id=64916527)
Tobias, we do index the full content, plus we get the text from videos + images
huh, cool! We should chat!
Let’s see, $15MM in funding to search Twitter. Maybe TechCrunch is an investor, otherwise, why would they give it so much attention on their home page today?
Samepoint has offered real-time search, including Twitter and Digg for the past three months. And, btw, no funding to date, and no coverage by TechCrunch either. Check it out for yourself at http://www.same...m/real-time.php. Better yet, do a comparison between Samepoint results and that of OneRiot. All the funding and publicity in the world cannot change the fact that this service as it stands now, is an inferior offering.
Sounds pretty interesting, these things are surely what will grow twitter in the future!
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Someone should make one of those “Hitler gets pissed” movies about TC incessantly covering Twitter.
Oh look! The ‘Leave Comment’ fields now include one for Twitter! For fuck’s sake is there nothing out there with an actual business model to cover?
Yea, another unneeded twitter story
OneRiot is nice but their videos are just links out to YouTube. How boring and exactly what every one else is doing.
Over at the new Beta version of Twitmatic we have support for over 300 online sites and the videos appear inline along with the search results. Real time? Why yes, we are also parsing twitter data immediately as it comes in.
A good example is to do a search on both OneRiot and Twitmatic for “collegehumor.” While OneRiot just shows a bunch of clips from YouTube, Twitmatic will shows you actual videos from college humor.
This is the future of real-time video search.
Thanks.
http://www.twit...om/twitmatic_v2
Is there a search engine for twitter apps or whatever these things are called which compares and contrasts them? Maybe I got pink on the brain and am having flashbacks to girls in high school but it is all so confusing… why should the general user care? do any of these apps make money? what is the success rate of a twitter app? Is it about the same as a facebook app?
no distribution, no chance
MG i thought you said you were done talking about twitter what is wrong with you lying bastards. Twitter is shitty. Service is shitty. Idea is shitty. The whole mess is shitty.