Comments on: Apple May Hear Verizon Now http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:17:08 -0800 hourly 1 By: Verizon: iDon’t Not Want The iPhone http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-3/#comment-3058081 Verizon: iDon’t Not Want The iPhone Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:28:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-3058081 [...] The first sentence of Seindenberg’s remarks today reads like pandering. The second sentence sounds like Verizon’s way of telling their customers, “we’re doing all we can to get the iPhone.” The latter also confirms what everyone already knew: That Apple and Verizon are talking. [...] [...] The first sentence of Seindenberg’s remarks today reads like pandering. The second sentence sounds like Verizon’s way of telling their customers, “we’re doing all we can to get the iPhone.” The latter also confirms what everyone already knew: That Apple and Verizon are talking. [...]

]]> By: Shawn http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2974388 Shawn Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:25:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2974388 Why do you have to bring up something like that on such a fine thread!? Get a life, go back to India and bathe in the filthy Ganges river! Why do you have to bring up something like that on such a fine thread!? Get a life, go back to India and bathe in the filthy Ganges river!

]]> By: Pitstop http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2915633 Pitstop Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:55:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2915633 I have no idea why garbage-breath Indians are so proud of their country. I've been there and it is a filthy waste dump. I have no idea why garbage-breath Indians are so proud of their country. I’ve been there and it is a filthy waste dump.

]]> By: Source: Verizon Hurrying To Launch LTE By Early 2010, Perhaps For Apple - Programming Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2877581 Source: Verizon Hurrying To Launch LTE By Early 2010, Perhaps For Apple - Programming Blog Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:42:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2877581 [...] set to end sometime in 2010. While everyone (including me) is quick to dream about Apple offering a Verizon iPhone, currently, Verizon runs a CDMA network which is different from the GSM network that the current [...] [...] set to end sometime in 2010. While everyone (including me) is quick to dream about Apple offering a Verizon iPhone, currently, Verizon runs a CDMA network which is different from the GSM network that the current [...]

]]> By: TibTV » Blog Archive » AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2868048 TibTV » Blog Archive » AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:29:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2868048 [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...] [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...]

]]> By: adam http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2865563 adam Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:09:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2865563 Sifting through all the BS.... Verizon sucks....Why: Just look at all of their phones. Proprietary POS's I dont want an Iphone that has Verizon and Red and Black smeared all over it. I bought the phone, it should look sound and work like i paid for!!!! Their Phones are so retarded looking. GSM tech is soooo much better. Buy any unlocked phone off the net and insert sim...DONE! Anyone who says cdma is better is an American who has never been to Korea or Japan or Europe. You wouldnt believe the crap they can do on their phones. Verizon spent the last 10 years updating Turd-v1.0 to Turd-v.2.0 instead of just simply installing new tech. Sure they have more coverage as a result of it. But, because they have used nothing but CDMA2000-EVDO, until they implement LTE, the switch will be much harder on VERIZON than AT&T or T-Mobile. Hell, the biggest reason why they are going to switch is because Vodaphone(100% GSM) owns 45% of verizon and US customers have to buy special CDMA/GSM phones to use home/overseas. And there is no probably to AT&T upgrading to LTE, they have already started, a umts-hspda network is the baseline for that tech. Both are packet switched networks, the current GSM uses IPv4, as does 99% of the world thanks to NAT! I really like how this article and the "verizon" people commenting on it, portray this 4G technology as something Verizon is inventing. If you wanna separate fact from fiction Learn about the chronological development of 1G(GPRS), 2G, 2.5G(EDGE), 2.75G, & 3G to 4G!!!! Long-Term Evolution. Endorsed by the 3GPP as the official way to burn wireless rubber in the next few years, LTE is a progression of GSM's UMTS platform, making it an ironic choice for CDMA stalwart Verizon and a huge blow for the CDMA Development Group's competing UMB standard. Its all a part of the GSM/wCDMA EVOLUTION BABY Get on board with a GSM carrier and you will be happier overall. Unless your 70 yrs old and all you care about is calling someone. And you dont mind Verizon telling you that the 400 dollar phone you bought from them, has been stripped of its USB transfer, Bluetooth networking, Homemade ringtones,limited browser, etc etc etc... all for the sake of being able to call someone in the middle of B.F.E. on an ancient analogue network put up in 1984 and V-aholes making extra money off of you for wallpapers,ringtones, browsing. I hate you Verizon!!! You screwed me out of hundreds of dollars for 2 years!!!!!!!!! I have been GSM ever since and have been able to what the hell i want, when i want with my HTC Dream! IN YOUR FACE! Sifting through all the BS….
Verizon sucks….Why:
Just look at all of their phones. Proprietary POS’s I dont want an Iphone that has Verizon and Red and Black smeared all over it. I bought the phone, it should look sound and work like i paid for!!!! Their Phones are so retarded looking. GSM tech is soooo much better. Buy any unlocked phone off the net and insert sim…DONE! Anyone who says cdma is better is an American who has never been to Korea or Japan or Europe. You wouldnt believe the crap they can do on their phones. Verizon spent the last 10 years updating Turd-v1.0 to Turd-v.2.0 instead of just simply installing new tech. Sure they have more coverage as a result of it. But, because they have used nothing but CDMA2000-EVDO, until they implement LTE, the switch will be much harder on VERIZON than AT&T or T-Mobile. Hell, the biggest reason why they are going to switch is because Vodaphone(100% GSM) owns 45% of verizon and US customers have to buy special CDMA/GSM phones to use home/overseas. And there is no probably to AT&T upgrading to LTE, they have already started, a umts-hspda network is the baseline for that tech. Both are packet switched networks, the current GSM uses IPv4, as does 99% of the world thanks to NAT!
I really like how this article and the “verizon” people commenting on it, portray this 4G technology as something Verizon is inventing.
If you wanna separate fact from fiction Learn about the chronological development of 1G(GPRS), 2G, 2.5G(EDGE), 2.75G, & 3G to 4G!!!! Long-Term Evolution. Endorsed by the 3GPP as the official way to burn wireless rubber in the next few years, LTE is a progression of GSM’s UMTS platform, making it an ironic choice for CDMA stalwart Verizon and a huge blow for the CDMA Development Group’s competing UMB standard.
Its all a part of the GSM/wCDMA EVOLUTION BABY
Get on board with a GSM carrier and you will be happier overall. Unless your 70 yrs old and all you care about is calling someone. And you dont mind Verizon telling you that the 400 dollar phone you bought from them, has been stripped of its USB transfer, Bluetooth networking, Homemade ringtones,limited browser, etc etc etc… all for the sake of being able to call someone in the middle of B.F.E. on an ancient analogue network put up in 1984 and V-aholes making extra money off of you for wallpapers,ringtones, browsing. I hate you Verizon!!! You screwed me out of hundreds of dollars for 2 years!!!!!!!!! I have been GSM ever since and have been able to what the hell i want, when i want with my HTC Dream! IN YOUR FACE!

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Design Website Easy http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2865524 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Design Website Easy Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:24:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2865524 [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...] [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...]

]]> By: Lea http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2865376 Lea Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:48:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2865376 My friend's mom got an iPhone as a gift. She loves it for all the cool stuff she can do on it, but has to borrow someone else's phone a lot because the service is so crap in our area. I used to be AT&T but the coverage in our area got progressively worse, to the point that I couldn't make calls from my house. I wanted an iPhone, but not if I can't use it properly. My friend’s mom got an iPhone as a gift. She loves it for all the cool stuff she can do on it, but has to borrow someone else’s phone a lot because the service is so crap in our area.

I used to be AT&T but the coverage in our area got progressively worse, to the point that I couldn’t make calls from my house. I wanted an iPhone, but not if I can’t use it properly.

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Newsfed - Aggregate local and tech stories with related videos and tweets! http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2865031 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Newsfed - Aggregate local and tech stories with related videos and tweets! Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:02:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2865031 [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...] [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...]

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Spin Valley Post http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2864975 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Spin Valley Post Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:31:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2864975 [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...] [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...]

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2864889 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:34:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2864889 [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...] [...] carrier, is likely to give it the most resistance. But that resistance is futile. The iPhone will eventually be on Verizon, on Apple’s terms. It’s just a question of [...]

]]> By: And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | Stoth http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2833952 And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | Stoth Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:23:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2833952 [...] AT&T’s exclusive contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival Verizon. [...] [...] AT&T’s exclusive contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival Verizon. [...]

]]> By: And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2833883 And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:42:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2833883 [...] AT&T’s exclusive contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival Verizon. [...] [...] AT&T’s exclusive contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival Verizon. [...]

]]> By: JR http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2831741 JR Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:56:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2831741 Nothing is wrong with GSM, in fact it is technically a better service than CDMA (which is being replaced soon with LTE, btw). Think of it like this: 1 CDMA tower = An inch thick, but a mile wide. 1 GSM tower = A mile thick, but an inch wide. That said, it costs CDMA provides less to cover a wider range quickly, and requires less towers, but 2 things suffer: quality of signal & scalability. The issue that people have with GSM service when they say it is "spotty" is because it requires more towers (high density) to cover the same range - however it is more likely to work in basements, parking garages, the middle of an office building, and areas with higher electrostatic interference (that's the "mile thick" part). Also GSM is scalable, that means that each time newer/faster technology is available, retrofitting existing towers is much cheaper/easier & more profitable. What does this mean you? 1) It means that GSM service will continue to become less "spotty" (most peoples main beef). 2) It also means that when CDMA providers (Verizon/Sprint) have to replace it with LTE they will be starting over from scratch (read: replacing vs. upgrading) and this means that the quality in your area post-upgrade is completely unknown. 3) While this is mostly concerning customers in the US, keep in mind that vast majority of the rest of the world uses GSM. And that the rest of the world is unquestionably ahead of the US when it comes to phone tech. - The only way to catch up is to use a tech that is scalable. In Conclusion: In my opinion, CDMA was a greedy technology decision that wanted to offer [low-quality] service to those outside of urban areas, and will continue pass on those replacement costs to their clients. Companies that choose GSM tech are making an investment in the future quality of their network infrastructure, something I'll gladly put up with for a) long-term reliability & b) international compatibility. -JR CEO, incognito, of a high-tech (non-telecom) US-based international business. Nothing is wrong with GSM, in fact it is technically a better service than CDMA (which is being replaced soon with LTE, btw).

Think of it like this:
1 CDMA tower = An inch thick, but a mile wide.
1 GSM tower = A mile thick, but an inch wide.

That said, it costs CDMA provides less to cover a wider range quickly, and requires less towers, but 2 things suffer: quality of signal & scalability.

The issue that people have with GSM service when they say it is “spotty” is because it requires more towers (high density) to cover the same range – however it is more likely to work in basements, parking garages, the middle of an office building, and areas with higher electrostatic interference (that’s the “mile thick” part).

Also GSM is scalable, that means that each time newer/faster technology is available, retrofitting existing towers is much cheaper/easier & more profitable.

What does this mean you?
1) It means that GSM service will continue to become less “spotty” (most peoples main beef).
2) It also means that when CDMA providers (Verizon/Sprint) have to replace it with LTE they will be starting over from scratch (read: replacing vs. upgrading) and this means that the quality in your area post-upgrade is completely unknown.
3) While this is mostly concerning customers in the US, keep in mind that vast majority of the rest of the world uses GSM. And that the rest of the world is unquestionably ahead of the US when it comes to phone tech. – The only way to catch up is to use a tech that is scalable.

In Conclusion:

In my opinion, CDMA was a greedy technology decision that wanted to offer [low-quality] service to those outside of urban areas, and will continue pass on those replacement costs to their clients.

Companies that choose GSM tech are making an investment in the future quality of their network infrastructure, something I’ll gladly put up with for a) long-term reliability & b) international compatibility.

-JR
CEO, incognito, of a high-tech (non-telecom) US-based international business.

]]> By: Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit | Viningmedia Nieuws http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2813728 Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit | Viningmedia Nieuws Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:38:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2813728 [...] AT&T tried to do the right thing by offering some existing iPhone customers full subsidies for the new iPhone, but that was only those paying a large amount of money each month. It really should have offered it to all existing customers, just to rope them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other carriers. [...] [...] AT&T tried to do the right thing by offering some existing iPhone customers full subsidies for the new iPhone, but that was only those paying a large amount of money each month. It really should have offered it to all existing customers, just to rope them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other carriers. [...]

]]> By: Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2813691 Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:12:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2813691 [...] AT&T tried to do the right thing by offering some existing iPhone customers full subsidies for the new iPhone, but that was only those paying a large amount of money each month. It really should have offered it to all existing customers, just to rope them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other carriers. [...] [...] AT&T tried to do the right thing by offering some existing iPhone customers full subsidies for the new iPhone, but that was only those paying a large amount of money each month. It really should have offered it to all existing customers, just to rope them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other carriers. [...]

]]> By: Have A “Cheap” iPhone 3G Plan? Don’t Expect A “Cheap” iPhone 3G S Upgrade. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2809032 Have A “Cheap” iPhone 3G Plan? Don’t Expect A “Cheap” iPhone 3G S Upgrade. Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:58:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2809032 [...] of expensive monthly service. That’s something AT&T shouldn’t pass up given the rumors swirling about the company losing its iPhone exclusivity after next year. But now, for many users [...] [...] of expensive monthly service. That’s something AT&T shouldn’t pass up given the rumors swirling about the company losing its iPhone exclusivity after next year. But now, for many users [...]

]]> By: Have A “Cheap” iPhone 3G Plan? Don’t Expect A “Cheap” iPhone 3G S Upgrade. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2808255 Have A “Cheap” iPhone 3G Plan? Don’t Expect A “Cheap” iPhone 3G S Upgrade. Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:59:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2808255 [...] of expensive monthly service. That’s something AT&T shouldn’t pass up given the rumors swirling about the company losing its iPhone exclusivity after next year. But now, for many users [...] [...] of expensive monthly service. That’s something AT&T shouldn’t pass up given the rumors swirling about the company losing its iPhone exclusivity after next year. But now, for many users [...]

]]> By: Olivia Norman http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2803795 Olivia Norman Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:25:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2803795 I just broke my contract with Verizon early so that I could get the new Iphone. So far, I have had no problems with AT&T's coverage in the DC metro area, though I will keep in mind what the poster above said about River Road and 123 (Thanks, btw) I am a loyal apple customer and I think in the end Apple is a much bigger brand than Verizon and that apple's customer base will go with what ever network the iphone is on. I was also frustrated with the amount of money I was being charged for data on Verizon's network and was pleased to see my data costs decrease dramatically when I made the switch to AT&T. My other frustration was that my verizon smartphone was windows based and I couldn't use it with my mac. The locking of features by verizon was also an issue for me. I just broke my contract with Verizon early so that I could get the new Iphone. So far, I have had no problems with AT&T’s coverage in the DC metro area, though I will keep in mind what the poster above said about River Road and 123 (Thanks, btw) I am a loyal apple customer and I think in the end Apple is a much bigger brand than Verizon and that apple’s customer base will go with what ever network the iphone is on. I was also frustrated with the amount of money I was being charged for data on Verizon’s network and was pleased to see my data costs decrease dramatically when I made the switch to AT&T. My other frustration was that my verizon smartphone was windows based and I couldn’t use it with my mac. The locking of features by verizon was also an issue for me.

]]> By: C Dub http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2801647 C Dub Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:58:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2801647 Yeah I don't know what all the people are talking about in terms of AT&T's network sucking. Seems like it is the cool and easy thing to do lately...I myself switched to AT&T over 2 years ago, and feel like I have had better service than I had with Verizon. That is the thing about cell phone providers...it is different across the country, they all have their weaknesses. People seem to assume that since they experience it where they live, it is the same across the country (if it is even as bad as some people say). I travel across the country for work, and while I don't travel extensively on the East Coast, I do go to NYC every now and then. I was expecting horrible coverage based on the thousands of posts I have read from people complaining about only getting EDGE, dropping every single call they make, etc. I had absolutely 0 issues while I was there aside from some sketchy coverage in a few buildings, but that was no different when I was on Verizon. Anyways, I always welcome improvements, but I think the AT&T SUCKS banter is getting a little out of hand. If it was that bad, they would probably not be the second largest provider. I have had a wonderful experience thus far, and hope that it only gets better. I guess I should be taking into account that iPhone users (particularly techies) are more demanding than most consumers, and expect way different results. Somehow I have the feeling that the phone would not be that much different when switched over to Verizon...but then maybe we will finally be able to stop hearing people bitch about it. Yeah I don’t know what all the people are talking about in terms of AT&T’s network sucking. Seems like it is the cool and easy thing to do lately…I myself switched to AT&T over 2 years ago, and feel like I have had better service than I had with Verizon. That is the thing about cell phone providers…it is different across the country, they all have their weaknesses. People seem to assume that since they experience it where they live, it is the same across the country (if it is even as bad as some people say). I travel across the country for work, and while I don’t travel extensively on the East Coast, I do go to NYC every now and then. I was expecting horrible coverage based on the thousands of posts I have read from people complaining about only getting EDGE, dropping every single call they make, etc. I had absolutely 0 issues while I was there aside from some sketchy coverage in a few buildings, but that was no different when I was on Verizon.

Anyways, I always welcome improvements, but I think the AT&T SUCKS banter is getting a little out of hand. If it was that bad, they would probably not be the second largest provider. I have had a wonderful experience thus far, and hope that it only gets better. I guess I should be taking into account that iPhone users (particularly techies) are more demanding than most consumers, and expect way different results.

Somehow I have the feeling that the phone would not be that much different when switched over to Verizon…but then maybe we will finally be able to stop hearing people bitch about it.

]]> By: Techcrunch “3GS may be a suckers bet right now.” « O2 Fail http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2795958 Techcrunch “3GS may be a suckers bet right now.” « O2 Fail Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:52:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2795958 [...] Apple is at some point going to move the iPhone beyond the AT&T network. That move could happen as soon as next year. If you buy this iPhone 3G S now, you’ll be locked in for two more years (or have to pay the [...] [...] Apple is at some point going to move the iPhone beyond the AT&T network. That move could happen as soon as next year. If you buy this iPhone 3G S now, you’ll be locked in for two more years (or have to pay the [...]

]]> By: Michael http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2795756 Michael Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:32:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2795756 AT&T works flawlessly all over the southeastern USA from Florida up to the Carolinas and over to Georgia. Cities and countryside. I dont know what people are talking about - the crappy reception and all. On the other hand, Verizon sucks and I live in a very large southeastern city. I had the secretary of Verizon Wireless tell me to go find another carrier - so I did. AT&T. It plain old works. I hope to hell that the iPhone isnt moving to Verizon. I will dump it in a heartbeat. AT&T works flawlessly all over the southeastern USA from Florida up to the Carolinas and over to Georgia. Cities and countryside. I dont know what people are talking about – the crappy reception and all.

On the other hand, Verizon sucks and I live in a very large southeastern city. I had the secretary of Verizon Wireless tell me to go find another carrier – so I did. AT&T. It plain old works.

I hope to hell that the iPhone isnt moving to Verizon. I will dump it in a heartbeat.

]]> By: Why The iPhone 3G S May Be A Sucker’s Bet Right Now http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2790616 Why The iPhone 3G S May Be A Sucker’s Bet Right Now Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:29:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2790616 [...] Apple is at some point going to move the iPhone beyond the AT&T network. That move could happen as soon as next year. If you buy this iPhone 3G S now, you’ll be locked in for two more years (or have to pay the [...] [...] Apple is at some point going to move the iPhone beyond the AT&T network. That move could happen as soon as next year. If you buy this iPhone 3G S now, you’ll be locked in for two more years (or have to pay the [...]

]]> By: I Don’t Know If The New iPhone Has A Frontal Camera, But It Should http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2787696 I Don’t Know If The New iPhone Has A Frontal Camera, But It Should Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:41:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2787696 [...] After all, it doesn’t want to piss off Apple, lest it expands its business to other carriers, like Verizon, as [...] [...] After all, it doesn’t want to piss off Apple, lest it expands its business to other carriers, like Verizon, as [...]

]]> By: I Don’t Know If The New iPhone Includes A Frontal Camera, But It Should http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/26/apple-may-hear-verizon-now/comment-page-2/#comment-2787580 I Don’t Know If The New iPhone Includes A Frontal Camera, But It Should Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:58:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=59606#comment-2787580 [...] After all, it doesn’t want to piss off Apple, lest it expands its business to other carriers, like Verizon, as [...] [...] After all, it doesn’t want to piss off Apple, lest it expands its business to other carriers, like Verizon, as [...]

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