Comments on: Sun Ready To Renew Acquisition Talks With IBM, If They Promise To Walk The Walk http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/ Startup and Technology News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:04:48 -0800 hourly 1 By: Tahir Akram http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2704197 Tahir Akram Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:06:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2704197 MaggieL, I was saying this because Microsoft PDC also held in Pakistan. O yeah I am collecting $ if I can fly to SF for JavaOne :) but it require huge.... MaggieL, I was saying this because Microsoft PDC also held in Pakistan. O yeah I am collecting $ if I can fly to SF for JavaOne :) but it require huge….

]]> By: Terry http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2703633 Terry Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:09:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2703633 The problem is Sun doesn't realize that Open source supports communism not capitalism. No wonder they are begging to be bought out by IBM. Lack of coherent business model anyone? EPIC FAIL... The problem is Sun doesn’t realize that Open source supports communism not capitalism. No wonder they are begging to be bought out by IBM. Lack of coherent business model anyone? EPIC FAIL…

]]> By: anon http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2702784 anon Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:55:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2702784 Note to Sun executives: Reality check, Sun's business model has not worked since the dot com bust. Stop living in a bubble and trying to take the easy way out by selling to IBM. 3 ways to save Sun: 1. new disruptive technology: I don't see anything earth shattering on this front. 2. shed LOBs that are sucking $$: shed unprofitable HW lines and shift to providing more services. 3. chop off the head of the beast: GET RID OF ALL EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT! The have failed miserably for 8 years. Sun can survive if they're forced to choose option 3 and implement parts of 2. A new executive management, with a solid business background and a much smaller, leaner company can get thru tough times and stickaround for when the economy improves. Note to Sun executives:
Reality check, Sun’s business model has not worked since the dot com bust. Stop living in a bubble and trying to take the easy way out by selling to IBM.

3 ways to save Sun:
1. new disruptive technology: I don’t see anything earth shattering on this front.

2. shed LOBs that are sucking $$: shed unprofitable HW lines and shift to providing more services.

3. chop off the head of the beast: GET RID OF ALL EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT! The have failed miserably for 8 years.

Sun can survive if they’re forced to choose option 3 and implement parts of 2. A new executive management, with a solid business background and a much smaller, leaner company can get thru tough times and stickaround for when the economy improves.

]]> By: Verschobene Elefantenhochzeit: Sun und IBM nach wie vor Gesprächsbereit | TechFieber | Hot Gadget Blog. Smart Tech News. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2702471 Verschobene Elefantenhochzeit: Sun und IBM nach wie vor Gesprächsbereit | TechFieber | Hot Gadget Blog. Smart Tech News. Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:52:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2702471 [...] Sun Ready To Renew Acquisition Talks With IBM, If They Promise To Walk The Walk Share and Enjoy: [...] [...] Sun Ready To Renew Acquisition Talks With IBM, If They Promise To Walk The Walk Share and Enjoy: [...]

]]> By: Tim http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2702404 Tim Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:42:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2702404 No one is mentioning StorageTek, which was acquired by Sun for $4Bn a while back. I don't know what StorageTek is worth these days, but they are one of IBM's big competitors in storage, especially in tape robotics. I think besides Java and ZFS Sun may have some hardware technology IBM would like No one is mentioning StorageTek, which was acquired by Sun for $4Bn a while back. I don’t know what StorageTek is worth these days, but they are one of IBM’s big competitors in storage, especially in tape robotics.

I think besides Java and ZFS Sun may have some hardware technology IBM would like

]]> By: Sun、IBMとの買収交渉再開へ、ただし有言実行が条件 http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2702312 Sun、IBMとの買収交渉再開へ、ただし有言実行が条件 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:26:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2702312 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: TECHNOLOGY « Daily Marauder http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2702128 TECHNOLOGY « Daily Marauder Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:51:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2702128 [...] latter makes a stronger commitment to actually closing the deal, according to Bloomberg sources. (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-t... [...] [...] latter makes a stronger commitment to actually closing the deal, according to Bloomberg sources. (http://www.tech...-they-promise-t... [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2701436 Jason Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:07:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2701436 Sun has done a ton for the industry and continues to innovate. NFS, Java, Solaris/Opensolaris, VirtualBox and ZFS. Not to mention they now own MySQL which runs the majority of your silly startups. They need to stick around and not get run into the ground by IBM, like everything else they take on. Sun has done a ton for the industry and continues to innovate. NFS, Java, Solaris/Opensolaris, VirtualBox and ZFS. Not to mention they now own MySQL which runs the majority of your silly startups. They need to stick around and not get run into the ground by IBM, like everything else they take on.

]]> By: Falafulu Fisi http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2701431 Falafulu Fisi Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:04:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2701431 CNCB said... <i>IBM doesn’t want Sun at any price. IBM is concerned over a anti-trust review by the Justice dept.</i> This is why the anti-trust law is an a$$hole. CNCB said…
IBM doesn’t want Sun at any price. IBM is concerned over a anti-trust review by the Justice dept.

This is why the anti-trust law is an a$$hole.

]]> By: Gadget Sleuth http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2701141 Gadget Sleuth Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:19:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2701141 Sun needs this to stay alive at this point, as its been a struggling company for years now. Sun needs this to stay alive at this point, as its been a struggling company for years now.

]]> By: CNBC Watcher http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2701129 CNBC Watcher Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:13:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2701129 CNBC said this morning the deal was dead. IBM doesn't want Sun at any price. IBM is concerned over a anti-trust review by the Justice dept. IBM got a chance to look under the hood, didn't like what they saw and walked. Maybe Sun will get a chance to put the dot in the dot com again? CNBC said this morning the deal was dead.

IBM doesn’t want Sun at any price. IBM is concerned over a anti-trust review by the Justice dept.

IBM got a chance to look under the hood, didn’t like what they saw and walked.

Maybe Sun will get a chance to put the dot in the dot com again?

]]> By: Anon http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2701026 Anon Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:03:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2701026 You mean Sun's people are so smart and experienced that they can't convince customers to pay diddly-squat for their products? Yes, Sun would make quite a unique service company - one that can't even charge for its services. You mean Sun’s people are so smart and experienced that they can’t convince customers to pay diddly-squat for their products? Yes, Sun would make quite a unique service company – one that can’t even charge for its services.

]]> By: MaggieL http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700993 MaggieL Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:37:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700993 Tahir, would you just buy a ticket to SF like everybody else does and quit whining all over the intarweb that JavaOne should be moved to you? Tahir, would you just buy a ticket to SF like everybody else does and quit whining all over the intarweb that JavaOne should be moved to you?

]]> By: eCurmudgeon http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700957 eCurmudgeon Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:09:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700957 Rather than selling Sun off to IBM, I'd rather see an acknowledgment that Sun's outlived whatever usefulness it may have once had and instead shut down in an orderly manner. Sell off the technology bits that may still have value in the market (Java to IBM or Oracle, parts of Solaris to Apple, other software to Red Hat, etc.), open-source the remaining unsold/unsellable bits, liquidate the assets, pay off the stockholders and call it a day. This would also have the advantage of releasing a talented pool of developers and engineers out into the wild to spawn a new generation of start-ups, not unlike what happened when Netscape and Silicon Graphics imploded. While we're at it, can we do the same thing for Yahoo as well? Rather than selling Sun off to IBM, I’d rather see an acknowledgment that Sun’s outlived whatever usefulness it may have once had and instead shut down in an orderly manner.

Sell off the technology bits that may still have value in the market (Java to IBM or Oracle, parts of Solaris to Apple, other software to Red Hat, etc.), open-source the remaining unsold/unsellable bits, liquidate the assets, pay off the stockholders and call it a day.

This would also have the advantage of releasing a talented pool of developers and engineers out into the wild to spawn a new generation of start-ups, not unlike what happened when Netscape and Silicon Graphics imploded.

While we’re at it, can we do the same thing for Yahoo as well?

]]> By: Bitter Twitterer http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700909 Bitter Twitterer Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:43:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700909 This is a bad deal for IBM, if they get tied into a commitment to purchase even if the regulators force tough terms or divestiture of business as part of the deal. If I were Sam, I would cool my jets for 6-9 months - Sun isn't going anywhere soon. This is a bad deal for IBM, if they get tied into a commitment to purchase even if the regulators force tough terms or divestiture of business as part of the deal.

If I were Sam, I would cool my jets for 6-9 months – Sun isn’t going anywhere soon.

]]> By: anon http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700903 anon Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:37:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700903 Sun is a unique position to be a service company: they're not trying to sell software licenses and can freely recommend non-free software. Even with hardware they make, half their line is generic x86 servers. Plus, they have a large group of very smart and experienced people to build on. Sun is a unique position to be a service company: they’re not trying to sell software licenses and can freely recommend non-free software. Even with hardware they make, half their line is generic x86 servers. Plus, they have a large group of very smart and experienced people to build on.

]]> By: James Jackson http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700884 James Jackson Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:15:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700884 No Robin, What Sun is saying is we tried the Jerry Yang tactic for holding out for a better offer. Unfortunately IBM called us on ou bluff. Now our stock is in freefall. Save our asses, please. No Robin,

What Sun is saying is we tried the Jerry Yang tactic for holding out for a better offer. Unfortunately IBM called us on ou bluff. Now our stock is in freefall. Save our asses, please.

]]> By: Tahir Akram http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700882 Tahir Akram Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:14:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700882 I read in some news that SUN CEO Jonathan Shwartz wants this acquisition to be happen where as SUN's open source division head is against it. SUN really needs brand promotion and more industry participation programs. JavaOne conference should be localized to other countries. And SUN should launch developer recognition programs. There are hell of things to do first before going towards this silly acquisition stuff. I read in some news that SUN CEO Jonathan Shwartz wants this acquisition to be happen where as SUN’s open source division head is against it. SUN really needs brand promotion and more industry participation programs. JavaOne conference should be localized to other countries. And SUN should launch developer recognition programs. There are hell of things to do first before going towards this silly acquisition stuff.

]]> By: Vengu http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700870 Vengu Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:58:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700870 Haiyoooo Haiyooo.... Another no from IBM is gona push sun stock to go down to 0$ . Haiyoooo Haiyooo…. Another no from IBM is gona push sun stock to go down to 0$ .

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/sun-ready-to-renew-acquisition-talks-with-ibm-if-they-promise-to-walk-the-walk/comment-page-1/#comment-2700869 Jason Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:56:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56961#comment-2700869 I'm not welcoming this purchase, it can only end badly for Solaris and MySQL. I’m not welcoming this purchase, it can only end badly for Solaris and MySQL.

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