Comments on: Shocker: AT&T Wants To Keep Sitting On Its Golden Egg (The iPhone) http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:37:28 -0800 hourly 1 By: AT&T: Don’t Blame Us For The iPhone’s Google Voice Ban | Trinitude Network http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2889026 AT&T: Don’t Blame Us For The iPhone’s Google Voice Ban | Trinitude Network Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:53:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2889026 [...] change its tune. AT&T would be foolish to paint a bulls-eye on Apple as it tries to extend its incredibly valuable exclusive iPhone contract, but it’s doing what it can to deflect a few of the blows coming [...] [...] change its tune. AT&T would be foolish to paint a bulls-eye on Apple as it tries to extend its incredibly valuable exclusive iPhone contract, but it’s doing what it can to deflect a few of the blows coming [...]

]]> By: AT&T: Don’t Blame Us For The iPhone’s Google Voice Ban http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2888776 AT&T: Don’t Blame Us For The iPhone’s Google Voice Ban Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:41:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2888776 [...] change its tune. AT&T would be foolish to paint a bulls-eye on Apple as it tries to extend its incredibly valuable exclusive iPhone contract, but it’s doing what it can to deflect a few of the blows coming [...] [...] change its tune. AT&T would be foolish to paint a bulls-eye on Apple as it tries to extend its incredibly valuable exclusive iPhone contract, but it’s doing what it can to deflect a few of the blows coming [...]

]]> By: AT&T: Don’t Blame Us For The iPhone’s Google Voice Ban http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2888762 AT&T: Don’t Blame Us For The iPhone’s Google Voice Ban Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:35:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2888762 [...] change its tune. AT&T would be foolish to paint a bulls-eye on Apple as it tries to extend its incredibly valuable exclusive iPhone contract, but it’s doing what it can to deflect a few of the blows coming [...] [...] change its tune. AT&T would be foolish to paint a bulls-eye on Apple as it tries to extend its incredibly valuable exclusive iPhone contract, but it’s doing what it can to deflect a few of the blows coming [...]

]]> By: Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Design Website Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2886489 Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Design Website Blog Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:33:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2886489 [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...] [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...]

]]> By: Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Technology http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2886437 Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Technology Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:05:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2886437 [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...] [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...]

]]> By: Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Technology http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2886436 Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Technology Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:05:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2886436 [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...] [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...]

]]> By: Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? - Programming Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2886296 Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? - Programming Blog Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:43:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2886296 [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...] [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...]

]]> By: Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Family Learning Center http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2886022 Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? | Family Learning Center Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:45:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2886022 [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...] [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...]

]]> By: Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2885899 Can AT&T Handle The iPhone? Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:02:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2885899 [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...] [...] course, AT&T is said to be working hard to extend the exclusive deal with Apple beyond next year. But that will be a nightmare for everyone involved. We have no [...]

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Test Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2868654 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Test Blog Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:02:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2868654 [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...] [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...]

]]> By: Timothy Tripp http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2868373 Timothy Tripp Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:41:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2868373 Even though Verizon is an excellent carrier, don't kid yourself into thinking that an exclusive deal with them would be any better than the exclusive deal with AT&T. For example, Verizon FORCES some Windows Mobile devices to deactivate the Bluetooth file transfer profile so that users can't get their pictures off their phones without sending MMS messages. This is on hardware that already supports the feature, just like AT&T is currently forcing the iPhone to disable MMS and tethering. The only way to stop this Draconian behavior is for Apple to stop with the carrier exclusive deals. It's a battle the carriers can't win anyway. The GPS/CDMA incompatibility of AT&T and Verizon already means you can't unlock an iPhone and get it to work on Verizon. Only T-Mobile is a viable alternative here in the U.S. So Apple, PLEASE do this: Sell an unlocked 3GS 16GB for $299 and the 32GB for $399. We already know your production cost is about $179 so you pocket $100 instead of $300+ up front but you add a user that will buy lots of music and apps, and will be an iPhone CONVERT which means they'll buy more hardware down the road. Then let the carriers fight it out for data plan and voice plan rates, and let them compete with each other over features too, like tethering! Apple stands as the only solution on the horizon to the problem of carrier abuse of power. In one fell swoop Apple can eliminate the early termination fiasco that carriers are charging, and strong-arm them into upgrading their network to compete with each other instead of leeching off customers who can't get out of contracts and have little choice up front. Even though Verizon is an excellent carrier, don’t kid yourself into thinking that an exclusive deal with them would be any better than the exclusive deal with AT&T. For example, Verizon FORCES some Windows Mobile devices to deactivate the Bluetooth file transfer profile so that users can’t get their pictures off their phones without sending MMS messages. This is on hardware that already supports the feature, just like AT&T is currently forcing the iPhone to disable MMS and tethering.

The only way to stop this Draconian behavior is for Apple to stop with the carrier exclusive deals. It’s a battle the carriers can’t win anyway. The GPS/CDMA incompatibility of AT&T and Verizon already means you can’t unlock an iPhone and get it to work on Verizon. Only T-Mobile is a viable alternative here in the U.S.

So Apple, PLEASE do this: Sell an unlocked 3GS 16GB for $299 and the 32GB for $399. We already know your production cost is about $179 so you pocket $100 instead of $300+ up front but you add a user that will buy lots of music and apps, and will be an iPhone CONVERT which means they’ll buy more hardware down the road. Then let the carriers fight it out for data plan and voice plan rates, and let them compete with each other over features too, like tethering!

Apple stands as the only solution on the horizon to the problem of carrier abuse of power. In one fell swoop Apple can eliminate the early termination fiasco that carriers are charging, and strong-arm them into upgrading their network to compete with each other instead of leeching off customers who can’t get out of contracts and have little choice up front.

]]> By: TibTV » Blog Archive » AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2868047 TibTV » Blog Archive » AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:29:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2868047 [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...] [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...]

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2866325 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:30:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2866325 [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...] [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...]

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Geek News and Musings http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2865200 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Geek News and Musings Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:20:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2865200 [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...] [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...]

]]> By: AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Stoth http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2864953 AT&T Is A Big, Steaming Heap Of Failure | Stoth Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:16:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2864953 [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...] [...] exclusive deal with Apple is set to expire next year, and they’re trying to extend it right now. I will say right now that if Apple does re-up with AT&T it will easily be one of the most [...]

]]> By: And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | Techdare http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2834039 And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | Techdare Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:06:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2834039 [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...] [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...]

]]> By: And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | Spin Valley Post http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2833966 And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | Spin Valley Post Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:27:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2833966 [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...] [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...]

]]> By: And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | GeekStream http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2833903 And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity | GeekStream Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:56:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2833903 [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...] [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...]

]]> By: And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2833882 And Yet More Proof Of Why AT&T Needs To Keep That iPhone Exclusivity Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:41:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2833882 [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...] [...] contract with Apple for the iPhone is set to expire next year. There has been a lot of talk about AT&T wanting to extend the deal for at least another year, but there has also been talk of Apple flirting with rival [...]

]]> By: JR http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2831685 JR Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:14:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2831685 You could always by a phone *outside* the United States, and have it shipped, if you want it that bad. Also @Latricia, by COMPETITION do you really mean COMPETITION, or do you mean you want an iPhone? There is plenty of COMPETITION in the "cellular telephone service market" (by the way, they aren't "cellular" anymore). Get a different phone, on a different carrier. - There are a lot out there that are better than the iPhone. You could always by a phone *outside* the United States, and have it shipped, if you want it that bad.

Also @Latricia, by COMPETITION do you really mean COMPETITION, or do you mean you want an iPhone? There is plenty of COMPETITION in the “cellular telephone service market” (by the way, they aren’t “cellular” anymore). Get a different phone, on a different carrier. – There are a lot out there that are better than the iPhone.

]]> By: Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit | Design Website Easy http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-2/#comment-2814004 Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit | Design Website Easy Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:21:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2814004 [...] them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other [...] [...] them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other [...]

]]> By: Colin Kenney http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2813776 Colin Kenney Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:15:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2813776 Agreed. Agreed.

]]> By: Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit | Stoth http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2813773 Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit | Stoth Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:10:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2813773 [...] them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other [...] [...] them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other [...]

]]> By: Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2813690 Apple Stuck Apologizing For AT&T Yet Again With A $30 iTunes Credit Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:12:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2813690 [...] them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other [...] [...] them in for another 2 years of service because I’m betting that when its exclusive deal is up next year, Apple is going to ask to starting seeing other [...]

]]> By: AT&T Finally Releases What Should Have Been The First iPhone App | iPhone Topic|TechBeta http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/14/shocker-att-wants-to-keep-keep-sitting-on-its-golden-egg-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2805309 AT&T Finally Releases What Should Have Been The First iPhone App | iPhone Topic|TechBeta Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:08:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=56422#comment-2805309 [...] march substantially won’t have any outcome upon a negotiations with Apple to try as good as extend a disdainful deal an additional year. But it doesn’t verbalise good when it comes to a probability of a [...] [...] march substantially won’t have any outcome upon a negotiations with Apple to try as good as extend a disdainful deal an additional year. But it doesn’t verbalise good when it comes to a probability of a [...]

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