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	<title>Comments on: Facebook Completes Rollout Of Haystack To Stem Losses From Massive Photo Uploads</title>
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		<title>By: Hongkie Town &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beatlie Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-2/#comment-3105997</link>
		<dc:creator>Hongkie Town &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Beatlie Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has this piece on Facebook&#8217;s struggles to keep up with user demand. The guess is that their electricity bill [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pearls Before Breakfast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facebook and Renren reach profitability</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-2/#comment-2997104</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearls Before Breakfast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facebook and Renren reach profitability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] run rate basis, excluding capital expenditures which must be pretty substantial considering the amount spent on picture storage by an SNS, but hey, still a great milestone) Good job, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chonga</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-2/#comment-2986472</link>
		<dc:creator>Chonga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Crosses 300 Million Users. Oh Yeah, And They Just Went Cash Flow Positive. &#124; gakcity.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-2/#comment-2986178</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Crosses 300 Million Users. Oh Yeah, And They Just Went Cash Flow Positive. &#124; gakcity.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in April, we noted that while the company has been EBITDA profitable for several quarters in a row, they weren’t [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Crosses 300 Million Users. Oh Yeah, And Their Cash Flow Just Went Positive</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2984349</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Crosses 300 Million Users. Oh Yeah, And Their Cash Flow Just Went Positive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in April, we noted that while the company has been EBITDA profitable for several quarters in a row, they weren&#8217;t [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Phase 4 Of Facebook’s Systematic Attack On Twitter: The Everyone Button</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2808787</link>
		<dc:creator>The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Phase 4 Of Facebook’s Systematic Attack On Twitter: The Everyone Button</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] down to its core magic, you’d have Twitter’s real time news stream with a really expensive-to-maintain photo site bolted [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Phase 4 Of Facebook&#8217;s Systematic Attack On Twitter: The Everyone Button</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2807649</link>
		<dc:creator>Phase 4 Of Facebook&#8217;s Systematic Attack On Twitter: The Everyone Button</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its core magic, you&#8217;d have Twitter&#8217;s real time news stream with a really expensive-to-maintain photo site bolted [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Phase 4 Of Facebook’s Systematic Attack On Twitter: The Everyone Button &#124; Cellphone Ultra</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2807211</link>
		<dc:creator>Phase 4 Of Facebook’s Systematic Attack On Twitter: The Everyone Button &#124; Cellphone Ultra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its core magic, you&#8217;d have Twitter&#8217;s real moment news stream with a really expensive-to-maintain photo site bolted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] its core magic, you&#8217;d have Twitter&#8217;s real moment news stream with a really expensive-to-maintain photo site bolted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I Have Seen the Future of Local Media &#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2777405</link>
		<dc:creator>I Have Seen the Future of Local Media &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] many “interactions” (a proxy for searches) happen in one month in Facebook and Twitter. This Techcrunch article gives us a better idea by indicating that “more than 850 million photos (are) uploaded [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] many “interactions” (a proxy for searches) happen in one month in Facebook and Twitter. This Techcrunch article gives us a better idea by indicating that “more than 850 million photos (are) uploaded [...]</p>
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		<title>By: YouTube makes newspapers look like a good investment at Doug&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2771725</link>
		<dc:creator>YouTube makes newspapers look like a good investment at Doug&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And then there&#8217;s Facebook: Last year, TechCrunch reported that Facebook spends $1 million a month on electricity, $500,000 a month on bandwidth, and up to $2 million per week on new servers to keep up with its users&#8217; insatiable photo-uploading needs. (Members post nearly a billion photos every month.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And then there&#8217;s Facebook: Last year, TechCrunch reported that Facebook spends $1 million a month on electricity, $500,000 a month on bandwidth, and up to $2 million per week on new servers to keep up with its users&#8217; insatiable photo-uploading needs. (Members post nearly a billion photos every month.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Praized Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Have Seen the Future of Local Media</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2757444</link>
		<dc:creator>The Praized Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Have Seen the Future of Local Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (a proxy for searches) happen in one month in Facebook and Twitter. This Techcrunch article gives us a better idea by indicating that &#8220;more than 850 million photos [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack &#124; Reviews Manual</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2724876</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack &#124; Reviews Manual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With more than 15 1000000000 photos (and 60 1000000000 ikon files with copy for assorted sizes), Facebook eats up a aggregation of element with its picture covering alone. Members are adding members add 220 meg newborn photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of element for its photos, and that is ontogeny at a evaluate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated $30 million on NetApp element appliances lonely meet to ready up with the ontogeny of photos and another uploaded content. To turn whatever of these costs, Facebook definite to organise its possess element structure titled Haystack. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With more than 15 1000000000 photos (and 60 1000000000 ikon files with copy for assorted sizes), Facebook eats up a aggregation of element with its picture covering alone. Members are adding members add 220 meg newborn photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of element for its photos, and that is ontogeny at a evaluate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated $30 million on NetApp element appliances lonely meet to ready up with the ontogeny of photos and another uploaded content. To turn whatever of these costs, Facebook definite to organise its possess element structure titled Haystack. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techeroid &#187; Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2724815</link>
		<dc:creator>Techeroid &#187; Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With more than 15 billion photos (and 60 billion image files with replication for different sizes), Facebook eats up a lot of storage with its photo application alone. Members are adding members add 220 million new photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of storage for its photos, and that is growing at a rate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated $30 million on NetApp storage appliances alone just to keep up with the growth of photos and other uploaded content. To reduce some of these costs, Facebook decided to engineer its own storage architecture called Haystack. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With more than 15 billion photos (and 60 billion image files with replication for different sizes), Facebook eats up a lot of storage with its photo application alone. Members are adding members add 220 million new photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of storage for its photos, and that is growing at a rate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated $30 million on NetApp storage appliances alone just to keep up with the growth of photos and other uploaded content. To reduce some of these costs, Facebook decided to engineer its own storage architecture called Haystack. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trade Jim News &#187; Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2724775</link>
		<dc:creator>Trade Jim News &#187; Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With more than 15 billion photos (and 60 billion image files with replication for different sizes), Facebook eats up a lot of storage with its photo application alone. Members are adding members add 220 million new photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of storage for its photos, and that is growing at a rate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated million on NetApp storage appliances alone just to keep up with the growth of photos and other uploaded content. To reduce some of these costs, Facebook decided to engineer its own storage architecture called Haystack. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With more than 15 billion photos (and 60 billion image files with replication for different sizes), Facebook eats up a lot of storage with its photo application alone. Members are adding members add 220 million new photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of storage for its photos, and that is growing at a rate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated million on NetApp storage appliances alone just to keep up with the growth of photos and other uploaded content. To reduce some of these costs, Facebook decided to engineer its own storage architecture called Haystack. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2724758</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Gets Three Times More Efficient At Finding Photos In Its Humungous Haystack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With more than 15 billion photos (and 60 billion image files with replication for different sizes), Facebook eats up a lot of storage with its photo application alone. Members are adding members add 220 million new photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of storage for its photos, and that is growing at a rate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated $30 million on NetApp storage appliances alone just to keep up with the growth of photos and other uploaded content. To reduce some of these costs, Facebook decided to engineer its own storage architecture called Haystack. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] With more than 15 billion photos (and 60 billion image files with replication for different sizes), Facebook eats up a lot of storage with its photo application alone. Members are adding members add 220 million new photos every week. Facebook currently has more than 1.5 petabytes of storage for its photos, and that is growing at a rate of 25 terabytes a week. Last year, Facebook spent an estimated $30 million on NetApp storage appliances alone just to keep up with the growth of photos and other uploaded content. To reduce some of these costs, Facebook decided to engineer its own storage architecture called Haystack. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: User-generated content may have changed the Internet, but sites like YouTube are suffocating under the costs of storing it &#171; winsty</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2722269</link>
		<dc:creator>User-generated content may have changed the Internet, but sites like YouTube are suffocating under the costs of storing it &#171; winsty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new servers to keep up with its users&#8217; insatiable photo-uploading needs. (Members post nearly a billion photos every month.) But Facebook gets relatively little in return for storing all your memories. Ad rates on its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new servers to keep up with its users&#8217; insatiable photo-uploading needs. (Members post nearly a billion photos every month.) But Facebook gets relatively little in return for storing all your memories. Ad rates on its [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UGC: User Generated Costs &#171; Social Media Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2701576</link>
		<dc:creator>UGC: User Generated Costs &#171; Social Media Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the same growth in storage and bandwith due to UGC from the now 200 million user base. Techcrunch reported that facebook is spending almost $1 million a month just for electricity.    Questo post è stato [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the same growth in storage and bandwith due to UGC from the now 200 million user base. Techcrunch reported that facebook is spending almost $1 million a month just for electricity.    Questo post è stato [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bandwidth doesn&#8217;t grow on trees &#171; Raja Jasti&#8217;s Blog - Renaissance Thinking</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2701309</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandwidth doesn&#8217;t grow on trees &#171; Raja Jasti&#8217;s Blog - Renaissance Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new servers to keep up with its users&#8217; insatiable photo-uploading needs. (Members post nearly a billion photos every month.) But Facebook gets relatively little in return for storing all your memories. Ad rates on its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new servers to keep up with its users&#8217; insatiable photo-uploading needs. (Members post nearly a billion photos every month.) But Facebook gets relatively little in return for storing all your memories. Ad rates on its [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Opinija. Žiniasklaidos kronikos &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Keli įdomūs skaičiai apie &#8220;Facebook&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2700466</link>
		<dc:creator>Opinija. Žiniasklaidos kronikos &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Keli įdomūs skaičiai apie &#8220;Facebook&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Facebook&#8221; sparčiai populiarėja įvairiuose pasaulio kampeliuose ir tai turi savo kainą. Jau dabar &#8220;Facebook&#8221; yra popiuliariausia nuotraukų talpinimo internete tarnyba, į [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Facebook&#8221; sparčiai populiarėja įvairiuose pasaulio kampeliuose ir tai turi savo kainą. Jau dabar &#8220;Facebook&#8221; yra popiuliariausia nuotraukų talpinimo internete tarnyba, į [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Web Scale &#171; Streamy Development Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2698057</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Scale &#171; Streamy Development Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they seem to finally have solved their photo storage cost issues with Haystack, saving them from needing to buy an additional $2M+ server every month just to keep up.  The difference in architectures is well described in Niall Kennedy&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they seem to finally have solved their photo storage cost issues with Haystack, saving them from needing to buy an additional $2M+ server every month just to keep up.  The difference in architectures is well described in Niall Kennedy&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: April 6, 2009 &#124; next media update</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2697893</link>
		<dc:creator>April 6, 2009 &#124; next media update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Facebook Completes Rollout of Haystack To Stem Losses From Massive Photo Uploads FACEBOOK One nugget of information Facebook leaked out to press last week during the Gideon Yu fiasco: the company has been EBITDA profitable for five quarters, but doesn&#8217;t expect to generate positive cash flow until 2010. Why the discrepancy? There&#8217;s only one answer to that - Facebook is paying out big dollars for something that must be depreciated over time. If they could just write off the expense in full as they paid it they&#8217;d be having much bigger losses now that matched cash flow, and they&#8217;d hit profitability sooner. Source&gt; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Facebook Completes Rollout of Haystack To Stem Losses From Massive Photo Uploads FACEBOOK One nugget of information Facebook leaked out to press last week during the Gideon Yu fiasco: the company has been EBITDA profitable for five quarters, but doesn&#8217;t expect to generate positive cash flow until 2010. Why the discrepancy? There&#8217;s only one answer to that &#8211; Facebook is paying out big dollars for something that must be depreciated over time. If they could just write off the expense in full as they paid it they&#8217;d be having much bigger losses now that matched cash flow, and they&#8217;d hit profitability sooner. Source&gt; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aleksey Korzun</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2692902</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleksey Korzun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, but flicker caters to a completely different demographic (photographers) who have genuine interest in using their &#039;pro&#039; service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but flicker caters to a completely different demographic (photographers) who have genuine interest in using their &#8216;pro&#8217; service.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2689402</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In six months they&#039;ll have more photos than anyone else, and they already have almost five times as many as Flickr.  A few years from now Facebook may be the one hosting photos for other sites.  They&#039;ll probably have enough money to buy Yahoo/Flickr in just a few years.

Photos are just more data.  If Facebook doesn&#039;t host the users&#039; data then what are they?  A gigantic list of links to outside content?  That&#039;s not how the social network business model game is played.  He who owns the data owns the customer.  Why do you think people are beating on their doors to free the data, because they want to make money from data they don&#039;t have to pay to host.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In six months they&#8217;ll have more photos than anyone else, and they already have almost five times as many as Flickr.  A few years from now Facebook may be the one hosting photos for other sites.  They&#8217;ll probably have enough money to buy Yahoo/Flickr in just a few years.</p>
<p>Photos are just more data.  If Facebook doesn&#8217;t host the users&#8217; data then what are they?  A gigantic list of links to outside content?  That&#8217;s not how the social network business model game is played.  He who owns the data owns the customer.  Why do you think people are beating on their doors to free the data, because they want to make money from data they don&#8217;t have to pay to host.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2689400</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook has like 200 million active users and is still growing very quickly.  AOL peaked at 30 million users in 2000.  That&#039;s way more than enough to have access to capital markets even in this economy.  

They&#039;re changing out the CFO for someone who can take them public.  After that they&#039;ll have billions of dollars in the bank and could mismanage the company for ten years before they have any meaningful financial troubles.  They do NOT need to worry about money, except how long it will take them to count it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook has like 200 million active users and is still growing very quickly.  AOL peaked at 30 million users in 2000.  That&#8217;s way more than enough to have access to capital markets even in this economy.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re changing out the CFO for someone who can take them public.  After that they&#8217;ll have billions of dollars in the bank and could mismanage the company for ten years before they have any meaningful financial troubles.  They do NOT need to worry about money, except how long it will take them to count it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/06/facebook-completes-rollout-of-haystack-to-stem-losses-from-massive-photo-uploads/comment-page-1/#comment-2689395</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EBITDA is basically earnings minus a bunch of big expenses like interest on loans, taxes, etc.  If you borrowed a lot of money, and are selling the product made by equipment you bought with the borrowed money, your EBITDA is like what your earnings might be if you owned the equipment outright.  Of course in real life you have to pay interest and taxes etc. - so it is not a very good measure of what&#039;s going on.  The idea of EBITDA is to show that once the loan is paid off, the business will be very profitable, but by then there will typically be new equipment to buy, so it&#039;s not predictive of future earnings any more than it&#039;s a clear indicator of present earnings.  It&#039;s a phony way to make earnings look better than they are.  No wonder EBITDA is not GAAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EBITDA is basically earnings minus a bunch of big expenses like interest on loans, taxes, etc.  If you borrowed a lot of money, and are selling the product made by equipment you bought with the borrowed money, your EBITDA is like what your earnings might be if you owned the equipment outright.  Of course in real life you have to pay interest and taxes etc. &#8211; so it is not a very good measure of what&#8217;s going on.  The idea of EBITDA is to show that once the loan is paid off, the business will be very profitable, but by then there will typically be new equipment to buy, so it&#8217;s not predictive of future earnings any more than it&#8217;s a clear indicator of present earnings.  It&#8217;s a phony way to make earnings look better than they are.  No wonder EBITDA is not GAAP.</p>
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