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	<title>Comments on: Google Loses A Round In Sponsored Search Litigation</title>
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		<title>By: shahzad</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2835765</link>
		<dc:creator>shahzad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can earn online 

its very easy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can earn online </p>
<p>its very easy</p>
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		<title>By: Google Sponsored Links Guru</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2711717</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Sponsored Links Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how are people still paying for pay per clicks.  Click on my site above. Google Sponsored Links at a set fee and no pay per click charges. I been using them for 5 years and its under less than one hundred dollars a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how are people still paying for pay per clicks.  Click on my site above. Google Sponsored Links at a set fee and no pay per click charges. I been using them for 5 years and its under less than one hundred dollars a month.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Neville</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2691196</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, brandholders can have their brand name in the ad text, so they&#039;d have a lower CPC, but why should they be paying Google what amounts to protection money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, brandholders can have their brand name in the ad text, so they&#8217;d have a lower CPC, but why should they be paying Google what amounts to protection money?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Fields</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2688131</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hmm

You sir, are a d*ckhead. 

I hate to use that word just as much as I dislike people who cannot grasp the simple concept of decency when offering a counter-argument.

Eric Clemons didn&#039;t deserve your vitriol.

Honestly, the rudeness that exudes out of people who hide under the mask of anonymity is shocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hmm</p>
<p>You sir, are a d*ckhead. </p>
<p>I hate to use that word just as much as I dislike people who cannot grasp the simple concept of decency when offering a counter-argument.</p>
<p>Eric Clemons didn&#8217;t deserve your vitriol.</p>
<p>Honestly, the rudeness that exudes out of people who hide under the mask of anonymity is shocking.</p>
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		<title>By: ahb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2687163</link>
		<dc:creator>ahb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with indexing. LV sued because google SOLD someone else placement based on a search of LV&#039;s trademark.

If I search for Louis Vuitton and Google knowingly gives me Gucci instead, Google may be found guilty of misusing LV&#039;s trademark by misleading me to click on Gucci.  If LV doesn&#039;t come up at the top when someone searches for them on google that&#039;s something completely different.

It really pisses me off to find that when I search for my company on Google a competitor has purchased the adwords. Maybe we should sue (:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with indexing. LV sued because google SOLD someone else placement based on a search of LV&#8217;s trademark.</p>
<p>If I search for Louis Vuitton and Google knowingly gives me Gucci instead, Google may be found guilty of misusing LV&#8217;s trademark by misleading me to click on Gucci.  If LV doesn&#8217;t come up at the top when someone searches for them on google that&#8217;s something completely different.</p>
<p>It really pisses me off to find that when I search for my company on Google a competitor has purchased the adwords. Maybe we should sue (:</p>
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		<title>By: Court Rules Search Ads a &#8216;Use in Commerce&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686599</link>
		<dc:creator>Court Rules Search Ads a &#8216;Use in Commerce&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch points to a recent ruling in the Rescuecom v. Google case that has been bouncing around the courts for a few years.  The court ruled that search ads can represent a &#8216;use in commerce&#8217; and sent the case back to court for another trial. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TechCrunch points to a recent ruling in the Rescuecom v. Google case that has been bouncing around the courts for a few years.  The court ruled that search ads can represent a &#8216;use in commerce&#8217; and sent the case back to court for another trial. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686555</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope my sarcasm was not lost in the imagery of Eric Clemons in a Snuggie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope my sarcasm was not lost in the imagery of Eric Clemons in a Snuggie.</p>
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		<title>By: oldperfesser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686456</link>
		<dc:creator>oldperfesser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not? What if the search is not for &quot;Brand X&quot; but for &quot;Alternatives to Brand X&quot; or &quot;Something more affordable than Brand X&quot;?

You would also ban the competitor&#039;s ad for these searches, even though that&#039;s exactly what the searcher is hoping to find.

The day of the one word search is over. The long tail searches that are becoming the norm will use any term - not just trademarks - in many ways. To make law as if the search was for just one word would be plain stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not? What if the search is not for &#8220;Brand X&#8221; but for &#8220;Alternatives to Brand X&#8221; or &#8220;Something more affordable than Brand X&#8221;?</p>
<p>You would also ban the competitor&#8217;s ad for these searches, even though that&#8217;s exactly what the searcher is hoping to find.</p>
<p>The day of the one word search is over. The long tail searches that are becoming the norm will use any term &#8211; not just trademarks &#8211; in many ways. To make law as if the search was for just one word would be plain stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: oldperfesser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686448</link>
		<dc:creator>oldperfesser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes you think that when people include a trademark in a search they are just looking for that one brand? You assert that as a fact, but I think it is highly unlikely to be true. I know that I routinely use trademarks as a shortcut to get to a class of products, even when I am actively looking for competitive options.

Beyond that, as time goes by, there will be even less truth in your assertion. In the relatively primitive world of 2009, I count as a relatively sophisticated user of search engines. As both the technology and user sophistication advance - and they will - people will get increasingly able to use trademarks to get at information somehow proximate to but not limited to the brand.
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To freeze the law based on how you assert people search in 2009 would foreclose those developments, thereby increasing the cost of finding information. That would be a bad thing for citizens and consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes you think that when people include a trademark in a search they are just looking for that one brand? You assert that as a fact, but I think it is highly unlikely to be true. I know that I routinely use trademarks as a shortcut to get to a class of products, even when I am actively looking for competitive options.</p>
<p>Beyond that, as time goes by, there will be even less truth in your assertion. In the relatively primitive world of 2009, I count as a relatively sophisticated user of search engines. As both the technology and user sophistication advance &#8211; and they will &#8211; people will get increasingly able to use trademarks to get at information somehow proximate to but not limited to the brand.<br />
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To freeze the law based on how you assert people search in 2009 would foreclose those developments, thereby increasing the cost of finding information. That would be a bad thing for citizens and consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: oldperfesser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686436</link>
		<dc:creator>oldperfesser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, I&#039;m not following you.

To give trademark owners control over all use of their trademarks in sponsored ads to deal with fraud is an incredibly overbroad response. It&#039;s like using Agent Orange to kill all the vegetation in the neighborhood instead of bending over to pick a weed. If fraud is an issue, use the many remedies addressed at fraud (including the trademark risk of confusion standard) instead of just limiting use of the trademark to those the trademark holder approves.

Again, this shouldn&#039;t be just about the rights of the trademark holder. The ultimate issue is helping consumers and citizens get to accurate information in the most efficient way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, I&#8217;m not following you.</p>
<p>To give trademark owners control over all use of their trademarks in sponsored ads to deal with fraud is an incredibly overbroad response. It&#8217;s like using Agent Orange to kill all the vegetation in the neighborhood instead of bending over to pick a weed. If fraud is an issue, use the many remedies addressed at fraud (including the trademark risk of confusion standard) instead of just limiting use of the trademark to those the trademark holder approves.</p>
<p>Again, this shouldn&#8217;t be just about the rights of the trademark holder. The ultimate issue is helping consumers and citizens get to accurate information in the most efficient way.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686388</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True... An infomercial for the Slanket should never have a a commercial run for the Snuggie.

Touche my friend....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True&#8230; An infomercial for the Slanket should never have a a commercial run for the Snuggie.</p>
<p>Touche my friend&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Loses Trademark/Search Case, Amazon Changes Affiliate Program &#124; Will Johnston &#124; Mind Muse</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686368</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Loses Trademark/Search Case, Amazon Changes Affiliate Program &#124; Will Johnston &#124; Mind Muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch reported on Google&#8217;s loss in litigation dealing with sponsored search.  In short, the question is whether or not it is illegal to use a search for a trademarked term to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686145</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="605731040">Matt Boland</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686132</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="605731040">Matt Boland</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s touched on the Quality Score as part of this. If competitors want to compete on others brand terms they can do so, but at a much higher cost. Brand holders can have the brand name in their text ad meaning they will often have much, much lower CPCs. This makes it often ineffective to try and compete as the ROI will not be worth it. 

I think Eric misses the point - if consumers didn&#039;t find what they wanted on Google then they wouldn&#039;t use it. There&#039;s a reason why it&#039;s owning just about every market it&#039;s in - it returns very relevant results. Although the sponsored listings aren&#039;t perfect it&#039;s still light years away from what used to be returned on earlier search engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s touched on the Quality Score as part of this. If competitors want to compete on others brand terms they can do so, but at a much higher cost. Brand holders can have the brand name in their text ad meaning they will often have much, much lower CPCs. This makes it often ineffective to try and compete as the ROI will not be worth it. </p>
<p>I think Eric misses the point &#8211; if consumers didn&#8217;t find what they wanted on Google then they wouldn&#8217;t use it. There&#8217;s a reason why it&#8217;s owning just about every market it&#8217;s in &#8211; it returns very relevant results. Although the sponsored listings aren&#8217;t perfect it&#8217;s still light years away from what used to be returned on earlier search engines.</p>
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		<title>By: Falafulu Fisi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686110</link>
		<dc:creator>Falafulu Fisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah said...
&lt;i&gt;How many times have you googled a brand, been given store links, only to find that store doesn’t sell that brand ??!&lt;/i&gt;

What gives you the right to demand that a search engine must exist in the first place for you to search for anything that you want? What&#039;s wrong with the phone book? See, this is the problem with anti-trust laws which is anti-property rights. Before Google came along, there was no such rights pre-existed. If you don&#039;t like Google, then don&#039;t use it.  Google has no obligation to index everything on the net for you to search for. There are millions of things on the net that Google search doesn&#039;t index at the moment, but does it mean that someone is searching for those non-existent topics on Google should file a complaint about Google not indexing them? 

Think about it clearly. Can you answer that question? The law is wrong, pure and simple and it is not rocket science to see that the law is wrong.  Google can selectively index the net if they want to. It is non of anyone&#039;s business to demand them to index pages or contents that they wish not to. WHY? Because it is their inalienable rights to do so. The rights to property is not a rights granted by courts or by populism. It is an objective rights which is not something arbitrarily given/granted to someone. If you don&#039;t understand this easy to understand concept of inalienable rights to one&#039;s property, then perhaps you can go to the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Objective Standard&lt;/a&gt; site to do some serious readings regarding this right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah said&#8230;<br />
<i>How many times have you googled a brand, been given store links, only to find that store doesn’t sell that brand ??!</i></p>
<p>What gives you the right to demand that a search engine must exist in the first place for you to search for anything that you want? What&#8217;s wrong with the phone book? See, this is the problem with anti-trust laws which is anti-property rights. Before Google came along, there was no such rights pre-existed. If you don&#8217;t like Google, then don&#8217;t use it.  Google has no obligation to index everything on the net for you to search for. There are millions of things on the net that Google search doesn&#8217;t index at the moment, but does it mean that someone is searching for those non-existent topics on Google should file a complaint about Google not indexing them? </p>
<p>Think about it clearly. Can you answer that question? The law is wrong, pure and simple and it is not rocket science to see that the law is wrong.  Google can selectively index the net if they want to. It is non of anyone&#8217;s business to demand them to index pages or contents that they wish not to. WHY? Because it is their inalienable rights to do so. The rights to property is not a rights granted by courts or by populism. It is an objective rights which is not something arbitrarily given/granted to someone. If you don&#8217;t understand this easy to understand concept of inalienable rights to one&#8217;s property, then perhaps you can go to the <a href="https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/" rel="nofollow">The Objective Standard</a> site to do some serious readings regarding this right.</p>
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		<title>By: Gustopher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686109</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they were truly evil, it would probably make sense to buy more stock while the markets are down, don&#039;t you think?

The wheels of justice move slowly, and a skilled evil corporation can delay the inevitable reckoning nearly indefinitely, while building up market share and value. The stock would go way up, at least for a few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they were truly evil, it would probably make sense to buy more stock while the markets are down, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>The wheels of justice move slowly, and a skilled evil corporation can delay the inevitable reckoning nearly indefinitely, while building up market share and value. The stock would go way up, at least for a few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Gustopher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686107</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually is an interesting question, and I think that trademark holders need to be able to protect their trademark against infringement where it will confuse a consumer, but should not be able to restrict all use to the point where they can stifle competition.

And this really isn&#039;t a Google issue, per say, as all of the major search engines do the same thing. Google just happens to have the deepest pockets, so people sue them first, and call them evil, and all of that.

All that said, despite the orangey-pink background, and the text that says &quot;sponsored link,&quot; I think that the ad that appears at the top of the search results might confuse consumers. It could appear like the top search result has been highlighted. (This is worse on Google than Yahoo! or MSN, since Google has fewer ads on top)

But, the ads off to the right should be fair game. They&#039;re not mixed in with the search results, so there should be a lot less confusion for the consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually is an interesting question, and I think that trademark holders need to be able to protect their trademark against infringement where it will confuse a consumer, but should not be able to restrict all use to the point where they can stifle competition.</p>
<p>And this really isn&#8217;t a Google issue, per say, as all of the major search engines do the same thing. Google just happens to have the deepest pockets, so people sue them first, and call them evil, and all of that.</p>
<p>All that said, despite the orangey-pink background, and the text that says &#8220;sponsored link,&#8221; I think that the ad that appears at the top of the search results might confuse consumers. It could appear like the top search result has been highlighted. (This is worse on Google than Yahoo! or MSN, since Google has fewer ads on top)</p>
<p>But, the ads off to the right should be fair game. They&#8217;re not mixed in with the search results, so there should be a lot less confusion for the consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686080</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other point I wanted to make is the Google used to prevent competitive bidding. In 2004, if I called and said a competitor was using our brand as a search term (NOT IN THE AD), Google would block it for me. Now they won&#039;t. That&#039;s how they are making their money. Not the general keywords like before, but the bidding up of top brand names. I think its abhorrent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other point I wanted to make is the Google used to prevent competitive bidding. In 2004, if I called and said a competitor was using our brand as a search term (NOT IN THE AD), Google would block it for me. Now they won&#8217;t. That&#8217;s how they are making their money. Not the general keywords like before, but the bidding up of top brand names. I think its abhorrent.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686076</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally, I&#039;m  privacy advocate and strong believer in freedom of speech. I also believe trademark holders have gone way too far in claiming protections, since I believe the spirit of trademark laws were to protect CONSUMERS, not companies.

That being said, I&#039;ve been in charge of Google programs before for vendors and have seen first hand just how Google has exploited company trademarks for profit, and I think Google should NOT allow competitors to bid on your trademark. 

Because, I believe Gopogle&#039;s use of trademarks is directly in opposition to the spirit of the laws. If someone google&#039;s Pepsi, OBVIOUSLY they are looking for the Pepsi Web site. They aren&#039;t looking for &quot;colas&quot;. It is not in the consumer&#039;s interest to be potentially misdirected to other sites when the person is looking for Pepsi.

The exception: If someone is looking for places to buy Pepsi, then Pepsi could allow official affiliates to bid on the brand keyword in a &quot;store&quot;. This would be separate from general listings. This type of service would not only benefit the companies, but consumers. How many times have you googled a brand, been given store links, only to find that store doesn&#039;t sell that brand??! Uggs are a great example. 

Anyways, I think Google deserved to lose this case and I will be happy if the final judgment falls away from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, I&#8217;m  privacy advocate and strong believer in freedom of speech. I also believe trademark holders have gone way too far in claiming protections, since I believe the spirit of trademark laws were to protect CONSUMERS, not companies.</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;ve been in charge of Google programs before for vendors and have seen first hand just how Google has exploited company trademarks for profit, and I think Google should NOT allow competitors to bid on your trademark. </p>
<p>Because, I believe Gopogle&#8217;s use of trademarks is directly in opposition to the spirit of the laws. If someone google&#8217;s Pepsi, OBVIOUSLY they are looking for the Pepsi Web site. They aren&#8217;t looking for &#8220;colas&#8221;. It is not in the consumer&#8217;s interest to be potentially misdirected to other sites when the person is looking for Pepsi.</p>
<p>The exception: If someone is looking for places to buy Pepsi, then Pepsi could allow official affiliates to bid on the brand keyword in a &#8220;store&#8221;. This would be separate from general listings. This type of service would not only benefit the companies, but consumers. How many times have you googled a brand, been given store links, only to find that store doesn&#8217;t sell that brand??! Uggs are a great example. </p>
<p>Anyways, I think Google deserved to lose this case and I will be happy if the final judgment falls away from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob F</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686030</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is going to be very hard to figure all this out considering there are trillions of keywords. The govt can&#039;t regulate on a case by case basis and neither can google. It would have to be an &quot;all or nothing&quot; approach. 

If trademarks bidding is completely banned that wouldn&#039;t be fair to consumers or competitors. I always see TV ads from GM talking about how much better their car is than a Honda. I know that it&#039;s GM trying to stop me from buying a Honda and to hopefully buy a GM. It&#039;s not misdirection, it&#039;s &quot;additional information&quot; to my buying process. Let&#039;s try this in the online world.

I type in &quot;Honda Accord&quot; and an ad from GM with the headline comes up saying &quot;Better MPG than Accord?&quot; Would that not be fair? I would love for that ad to come up while I&#039;m searching for an Accord.

I think the only time when sites should not use a trademark is when they are outright pretending to be the trademark (i.e. similar urls as trademark and outright saying they are the trademark). I&#039;m not sure this even happens nor have I ever seen it. It&#039;s not like someone can say they are Nike Airs and than you purchase them and they send you Reeboks -such a company wouldn&#039;t stay in business very long.  Therefore in the end the &quot;free market&quot; system can regulate itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is going to be very hard to figure all this out considering there are trillions of keywords. The govt can&#8217;t regulate on a case by case basis and neither can google. It would have to be an &#8220;all or nothing&#8221; approach. </p>
<p>If trademarks bidding is completely banned that wouldn&#8217;t be fair to consumers or competitors. I always see TV ads from GM talking about how much better their car is than a Honda. I know that it&#8217;s GM trying to stop me from buying a Honda and to hopefully buy a GM. It&#8217;s not misdirection, it&#8217;s &#8220;additional information&#8221; to my buying process. Let&#8217;s try this in the online world.</p>
<p>I type in &#8220;Honda Accord&#8221; and an ad from GM with the headline comes up saying &#8220;Better MPG than Accord?&#8221; Would that not be fair? I would love for that ad to come up while I&#8217;m searching for an Accord.</p>
<p>I think the only time when sites should not use a trademark is when they are outright pretending to be the trademark (i.e. similar urls as trademark and outright saying they are the trademark). I&#8217;m not sure this even happens nor have I ever seen it. It&#8217;s not like someone can say they are Nike Airs and than you purchase them and they send you Reeboks -such a company wouldn&#8217;t stay in business very long.  Therefore in the end the &#8220;free market&#8221; system can regulate itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Warstler</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2686005</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Warstler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really.  Brand Y is welcome to use their trademark for search and their own web site to compare themselves to Brand X.

Google shouldn&#039;t be taking Brand Y&#039;s money to be in the search results for Brand X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really.  Brand Y is welcome to use their trademark for search and their own web site to compare themselves to Brand X.</p>
<p>Google shouldn&#8217;t be taking Brand Y&#8217;s money to be in the search results for Brand X.</p>
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		<title>By: riot</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2685990</link>
		<dc:creator>riot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is when trademarks are allowed to be used in outright lies or deceptive ads -- ie: XYZ is a scam or ABC software is spyware. In fact this can border on libel. It&#039;s perfectly fine to throw up a page and optimize it to show up organically, but for a trademark holder to have no control over results like this in sponsored ads is troubling. As has already been stated, many users don&#039;t even understand the difference between organic and sponsored results, so a sponsored result triggered by typing a company&#039;s name could be incredibly damaging to a less savvy user. I do think trademarks should be allowed with permission -- as a reseller, distributor, affiliate, etc..

As an AdWords user, I&#039;ve run into a blacklist of sorts when attempting to place an bid that used a company name, receiving a message that the term was forbidden. What&#039;s unusual is that there seems to be so much variation in what people are experiencing when bidding on or reporting sponsored ads that contain trademarks (not to mention the shadiness when Google has scrubbed sponsored ads on particular trademarks in the city where a court case is ongoing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is when trademarks are allowed to be used in outright lies or deceptive ads &#8212; ie: XYZ is a scam or ABC software is spyware. In fact this can border on libel. It&#8217;s perfectly fine to throw up a page and optimize it to show up organically, but for a trademark holder to have no control over results like this in sponsored ads is troubling. As has already been stated, many users don&#8217;t even understand the difference between organic and sponsored results, so a sponsored result triggered by typing a company&#8217;s name could be incredibly damaging to a less savvy user. I do think trademarks should be allowed with permission &#8212; as a reseller, distributor, affiliate, etc..</p>
<p>As an AdWords user, I&#8217;ve run into a blacklist of sorts when attempting to place an bid that used a company name, receiving a message that the term was forbidden. What&#8217;s unusual is that there seems to be so much variation in what people are experiencing when bidding on or reporting sponsored ads that contain trademarks (not to mention the shadiness when Google has scrubbed sponsored ads on particular trademarks in the city where a court case is ongoing).</p>
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		<title>By: clear mislead</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2685957</link>
		<dc:creator>clear mislead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you search &quot;ford&quot;, sponsored link will be &quot;Jobs in ford&quot; linking to a common job site. I am just too irritated. Also google makes corporates pay for traffic that should be naturally coming to them.

Whenever I browse with some net newbie, he/she clicks on Google sponsored links. It is daylight robbery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you search &#8220;ford&#8221;, sponsored link will be &#8220;Jobs in ford&#8221; linking to a common job site. I am just too irritated. Also google makes corporates pay for traffic that should be naturally coming to them.</p>
<p>Whenever I browse with some net newbie, he/she clicks on Google sponsored links. It is daylight robbery.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2685952</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very good point.  Please respond Eric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very good point.  Please respond Eric.</p>
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		<title>By: Cog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/google-loses-a-round-in-sponsored-search-litigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2685905</link>
		<dc:creator>Cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google owns 65% of the search market, or more in some countries, and they own several online advertising networks?

When they start to regulate how other companies and other individuals utilize search and content, and their decisions have the effect of boosting their bottom line, anti-trust issues need to be investigated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google owns 65% of the search market, or more in some countries, and they own several online advertising networks?</p>
<p>When they start to regulate how other companies and other individuals utilize search and content, and their decisions have the effect of boosting their bottom line, anti-trust issues need to be investigated.</p>
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