Comments on: Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:13:04 -0800 hourly 1 By: The Worst Business Model in the World? Why Facebook Still Doesn’t Make Money « Social Capital http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-3112113 The Worst Business Model in the World? Why Facebook Still Doesn’t Make Money « Social Capital Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:06:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-3112113 [...] came across an interesting article on Tech Crunch recently about social networking websites in China. China has basically shut off Facebook – [...] [...] came across an interesting article on Tech Crunch recently about social networking websites in China. China has basically shut off Facebook – [...]

]]> By: rexy http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-3039304 rexy Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:26:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-3039304 3ren? I thought the first Ning clone was www.jujuya.com. Higher Alexa ranking too 3ren? I thought the first Ning clone was http://www.jujuya.com. Higher Alexa ranking too

]]> By: Bernard Leong » Why and How Facebook should come to Southeast Asia http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-2994495 Bernard Leong » Why and How Facebook should come to Southeast Asia Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:23:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2994495 [...] [1] All Facebook, Facebook Announces 300 Million Milestone And Cash Flow Positive [2] TechCrunch, Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis. [3] Grey Review, Snapshot of Social Networking in Malaysia. [4] My recent lecture in Nanyang [...] [...] [1] All Facebook, Facebook Announces 300 Million Milestone And Cash Flow Positive [2] TechCrunch, Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis. [3] Grey Review, Snapshot of Social Networking in Malaysia. [4] My recent lecture in Nanyang [...]

]]> By: Travis http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-2991409 Travis Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:17:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2991409 Guys, this is a very interesting post. I am originally from Miami, and I have actually been living in Shanghai for more than two years. A lot of what you guys are saying is true, and a lot of what this post details is true. The biggest thing about China that no one really mentions here are the invisible market barriers. IE Communism and the will of the government. Case in point, I know of a company that posts event and party pictures. After only a few months they moved to the second position in the market, generating millions of hits a month - just for the city of Shanghai. A crucial component of this platform was its interaction with Facebook. Guess what, Facebook is now blocked in China. When I say blocked, I mean it is impossible to get to it. A nationwide firewall prevents any user inside the country from accessing that domain. Same thing with youtube. I am sure I don't have to tell you what happened to that company that so heavily depended on facebook. Almost overnight they went out of business. They did nothing wrong, they played by the rules, and when push came to shove, the received no warnings, no notifications. One day when they woke up, everything they had worked for and invested in was completely gone with no sign of ever returning. This was in May, around the time of the riots in Xinjiang, and Facebook has yet to return. Guys, this is a very interesting post. I am originally from Miami, and I have actually been living in Shanghai for more than two years.
A lot of what you guys are saying is true, and a lot of what this post details is true.
The biggest thing about China that no one really mentions here are the invisible market barriers. IE Communism and the will of the government.
Case in point, I know of a company that posts event and party pictures. After only a few months they moved to the second position in the market, generating millions of hits a month – just for the city of Shanghai. A crucial component of this platform was its interaction with Facebook.
Guess what, Facebook is now blocked in China. When I say blocked, I mean it is impossible to get to it. A nationwide firewall prevents any user inside the country from accessing that domain. Same thing with youtube. I am sure I don’t have to tell you what happened to that company that so heavily depended on facebook. Almost overnight they went out of business. They did nothing wrong, they played by the rules, and when push came to shove, the received no warnings, no notifications. One day when they woke up, everything they had worked for and invested in was completely gone with no sign of ever returning.
This was in May, around the time of the riots in Xinjiang, and Facebook has yet to return.

]]> By: Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis - XM Asia Pacific http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-2979178 Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis - XM Asia Pacific Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:17:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2979178 [...] them are teenagers—with social networking and entertainment applications being the most popular. Read on - from [...] [...] them are teenagers—with social networking and entertainment applications being the most popular. Read on – from [...]

]]> By: Bernard Leong » Top 3 Social Networks in China after QQ http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-2967518 Bernard Leong » Top 3 Social Networks in China after QQ Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:55:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2967518 [...] social networking features), with the data I have found. Based on an earlier article “Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis” by George Godula, David Li & Richard Yu in TechCrunch about an analysis on how Chinese [...] [...] social networking features), with the data I have found. Based on an earlier article “Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis” by George Godula, David Li & Richard Yu in TechCrunch about an analysis on how Chinese [...]

]]> By: louis http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-2965789 louis Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:24:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2965789 I just jion the biggest 9911.com in china. I just jion the biggest 9911.com in china.

]]> By: links for 2009-08-18 « dupola’s weblog(en) http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-3/#comment-2931731 links for 2009-08-18 « dupola’s weblog(en) Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:04:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2931731 [...] Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis (tags: SNS) [...] [...] Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis (tags: SNS) [...]

]]> By: 3RD WORLD GUILTY OF JUST CONSUMING « A blog for internet entrepreneurs, developers and enthusiasts in Kenya http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2917370 3RD WORLD GUILTY OF JUST CONSUMING « A blog for internet entrepreneurs, developers and enthusiasts in Kenya Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:24:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2917370 [...] more sad tales on this you can visit http://futuresphere.wordpress.com/ and also pay a visit to http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace... to see how Chinese sites are kicking American sites straight in the crotch as far as visitors and [...] [...] more sad tales on this you can visit http://futuresp....wordpress.com/ and also pay a visit to http://www.tech...ook-and-myspace... to see how Chinese sites are kicking American sites straight in the crotch as far as visitors and [...]

]]> By: „In China kaufen sie 交互式娱乐服. Hier zahlen sie für‘s Flirten. #Tencent #KTO“ — Warum? « atilla yücel http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2836821 „In China kaufen sie 交互式娱乐服. Hier zahlen sie für‘s Flirten. #Tencent #KTO“ — Warum? « atilla yücel Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:30:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2836821 [...] Tencent’s Qzone (registrierte Mitglieder: Qzone ~200 Mio. & QQIM ~370 Mio.) ist inhaltlich auf Beziehung sowie Entertainment und für die junge, moderne, vorrangig „white collar“ Bevölkerungsgruppe in China ausgelegt. Mit der höchsten Anzahl registrierter Mitglieder dominiert Qzone den Markt in China. MySpace kommt in China mit sechs Mio. Usern an 13., Facebook mit 1,5 Mio. an 17. Stelle (vgl. techcrunch.com). [...] [...] Tencent’s Qzone (registrierte Mitglieder: Qzone ~200 Mio. & QQIM ~370 Mio.) ist inhaltlich auf Beziehung sowie Entertainment und für die junge, moderne, vorrangig „white collar“ Bevölkerungsgruppe in China ausgelegt. Mit der höchsten Anzahl registrierter Mitglieder dominiert Qzone den Markt in China. MySpace kommt in China mit sechs Mio. Usern an 13., Facebook mit 1,5 Mio. an 17. Stelle (vgl. techcrunch.com). [...]

]]> By: “Ich hieß Dimitri, dann Kinyu” — Weshalb ich mir KTO und QQ空间 von Tencent 腾讯 (Tencent Qzone) näher angeschaut habe. « zeitgeistdigital http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2826480 “Ich hieß Dimitri, dann Kinyu” — Weshalb ich mir KTO und QQ空间 von Tencent 腾讯 (Tencent Qzone) näher angeschaut habe. « zeitgeistdigital Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:45:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2826480 [...] Die Vermutungliegt nahe, dass in beiden Fällen die Er­tragsmodelle durch einen gewissen „cultural mindset“ bei den Mitgliedern begünstigt werden und folglich in WSN, neben der Größe, andere Erfolgsfaktoren den monetären Erfolg beeinflussen: “the astronomical growth of China’s social networks can be attributed as much to its massive market size as to its cultural norms and values” (techcrunch.com). [...] [...] Die Vermutungliegt nahe, dass in beiden Fällen die Er­tragsmodelle durch einen gewissen „cultural mindset“ bei den Mitgliedern begünstigt werden und folglich in WSN, neben der Größe, andere Erfolgsfaktoren den monetären Erfolg beeinflussen: “the astronomical growth of China’s social networks can be attributed as much to its massive market size as to its cultural norms and values” (techcrunch.com). [...]

]]> By: Chikabebe http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2817991 Chikabebe Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:23:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2817991 Wow! China is really good on social networking sites.. I'm surprised that facebook is just on the 17th place Wow! China is really good on social networking sites.. I’m surprised that facebook is just on the 17th place

]]> By: Weshalb ich mir KTO und QQ空间 von Tencent 腾讯 (Tencent Qzone) näher angeschaut habe. « Atilla Y. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2816161 Weshalb ich mir KTO und QQ空间 von Tencent 腾讯 (Tencent Qzone) näher angeschaut habe. « Atilla Y. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:17:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2816161 [...] Während die globalen Akteure ihren Umsatz zum Großteil aus den Werbeeinnahmen generieren und – allgemein gesprochen – WSN bei ihren Mitgliedern grundsätzlich auf das Problem der Umsonst-Mentalität stoßen. Aus welchen Gründen sind z.B. die „Flirt-Community“ KTO5exy.de (im Folgenden: KTO) (Mitglieder: 800 Tsd.) für russischsprachige Deutsche und Tencent’s Qzone in China (Mitglieder: Qzone ~200 Mio. / QQIM ~370 Mio.) – „a conglomerate of consumer-facing web services“ – vergleichsweise erfolgreicher bei der Durchsetzung von Gebühren für diverse Dienste und Produkte? Eigenen Angaben zufolge generiert das WSN von Tencent mittlerweile sogar mehr Umsatz ($1 Mrd. in 08) als Facebook (~$300 Mio. / ~200-230 Mio. User) und MySpace (~$800 Mio. / ~120 Mio. User) (venturebeat.com). Es ist zu vermuten, dass in beiden Fällen die Erlösmodelle durch einen gewissen „cultural mindset“ in der Mitgliederschaft begünstigt werden und folglich in WSN, neben der Größe, andere Erfolgsfaktoren den monetären Erfolg beeinflussen: “the astronomical growth of China’s social networks can be attributed as much to its massive market size as to its cultural norms and values” (techcrunch.com). [...] [...] Während die globalen Akteure ihren Umsatz zum Großteil aus den Werbeeinnahmen generieren und – allgemein gesprochen – WSN bei ihren Mitgliedern grundsätzlich auf das Problem der Umsonst-Mentalität stoßen. Aus welchen Gründen sind z.B. die „Flirt-Community“ KTO5exy.de (im Folgenden: KTO) (Mitglieder: 800 Tsd.) für russischsprachige Deutsche und Tencent’s Qzone in China (Mitglieder: Qzone ~200 Mio. / QQIM ~370 Mio.) – „a conglomerate of consumer-facing web services“ – vergleichsweise erfolgreicher bei der Durchsetzung von Gebühren für diverse Dienste und Produkte? Eigenen Angaben zufolge generiert das WSN von Tencent mittlerweile sogar mehr Umsatz ($1 Mrd. in 08) als Facebook (~$300 Mio. / ~200-230 Mio. User) und MySpace (~$800 Mio. / ~120 Mio. User) (venturebeat.com). Es ist zu vermuten, dass in beiden Fällen die Erlösmodelle durch einen gewissen „cultural mindset“ in der Mitgliederschaft begünstigt werden und folglich in WSN, neben der Größe, andere Erfolgsfaktoren den monetären Erfolg beeinflussen: “the astronomical growth of China’s social networks can be attributed as much to its massive market size as to its cultural norms and values” (techcrunch.com). [...]

]]> By: Google avança no campo das moedas complementares - Em busca de Sistemas Monetários Sustentáveis http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2780040 Google avança no campo das moedas complementares - Em busca de Sistemas Monetários Sustentáveis Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:45:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2780040 [...] milhões de usuários em Abril deste ano, de acordo com as informações encontradas no site do TechCrunch.  Ou a moeda virtual QQ Coins que chegou a uma circulação equivalente a 1 bilhão de dólares [...] [...] milhões de usuários em Abril deste ano, de acordo com as informações encontradas no site do TechCrunch.  Ou a moeda virtual QQ Coins que chegou a uma circulação equivalente a 1 bilhão de dólares [...]

]]> By: Meeya & 校內網 | DreamersCorp. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2751359 Meeya & 校內網 | DreamersCorp. Sat, 16 May 2009 04:12:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2751359 [...] Chinese Social Networks 『Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis 2009-04-11 12:46:40 Posted in Web 2.0 / | [...] [...] Chinese Social Networks 『Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis 2009-04-11 12:46:40 Posted in Web 2.0 / | [...]

]]> By: Social networks – the monetisation problem « Tales of a young London VC http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2750451 Social networks – the monetisation problem « Tales of a young London VC Fri, 15 May 2009 17:36:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2750451 [...] Goods: Getting users to pay for things online is possible and many Far East social networks, virtual worlds (Habbo, Second Life) and other services like Flirtomatic are generating direct [...] [...] Goods: Getting users to pay for things online is possible and many Far East social networks, virtual worlds (Habbo, Second Life) and other services like Flirtomatic are generating direct [...]

]]> By: Which Countries Have the Most Internet Users? The Answers May Surprise You! - Page 2 http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2726239 Which Countries Have the Most Internet Users? The Answers May Surprise You! - Page 2 Fri, 01 May 2009 16:58:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2726239 [...] social networks. It's reportedly, a billion dollar market and growing. Check out this blog post: Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis [...] [...] social networks. It’s reportedly, a billion dollar market and growing. Check out this blog post: Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis [...]

]]> By: Inside Facebook Reports: Why Hasn’t Facebook Grown More in China? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2720798 Inside Facebook Reports: Why Hasn’t Facebook Grown More in China? Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:07:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2720798 [...] Number of Users in China (in millions) [...] [...] Number of Users in China (in millions) [...]

]]> By: Social Networking in Non-English Speaking Countries » Blue Sky Thinking http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2719298 Social Networking in Non-English Speaking Countries » Blue Sky Thinking Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:04:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2719298 [...] are approximately 220 million just on the QQ’s network. These statistics are for early 2008. TechCruch also reported that there were 376 million QQ users as of April 2009 and just over a year it grew [...] [...] are approximately 220 million just on the QQ’s network. These statistics are for early 2008. TechCruch also reported that there were 376 million QQ users as of April 2009 and just over a year it grew [...]

]]> By: singe http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2705714 singe Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:35:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2705714 http://www.3ren.com very good ! http://www.3ren.com

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]]> By: Techcrunch article | iheartyu.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2705162 Techcrunch article | iheartyu.com Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:10:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2705162 [...] http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace... Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis 151 Comments by Guest Author on April 5, 2009 [...] [...] http://www.tech...ook-and-myspace... Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis 151 Comments by Guest Author on April 5, 2009 [...]

]]> By: Freight Forum http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2703789 Freight Forum Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:36:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2703789 I'm doing web development in China right now, I have to say western websites have a lot to learn from Chinese in terms of offering services, virtual or not, in exchange for micropayments. QQ users can go to a corner store and use real money to purchase Q dollars, and then use their Q dollars online to purchase a range of virtual gimmicks and services, such as clothes for their avatar, etc. The user is happy because they did something with value to them for a very minimal price, and the website has been successfully monetized even by receiving such a tiny micropayment. However they receive so many so the revenue is very high. I’m doing web development in China right now, I have to say western websites have a lot to learn from Chinese in terms of offering services, virtual or not, in exchange for micropayments. QQ users can go to a corner store and use real money to purchase Q dollars, and then use their Q dollars online to purchase a range of virtual gimmicks and services, such as clothes for their avatar, etc. The user is happy because they did something with value to them for a very minimal price, and the website has been successfully monetized even by receiving such a tiny micropayment. However they receive so many so the revenue is very high.

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="3431508">Season Xu</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2703275 Season Xu Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:29:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2703275 This is the official Happy Farm game. Check it out: http://apps.facebook.com/happyfarmers This is the official Happy Farm game. Check it out: http://apps.fac...om/happyfarmers

]]> By: Jennifer Kitty http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2700812 Jennifer Kitty Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:44:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2700812 Well i Think China gonna be the largest online users in the world 10 years from now Mark my words ! http://Passionel.com Well i Think China gonna be the largest online users in the world 10 years from now

Mark my words !

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]]> By: Facebook in Europa führend - in China nicht | Leander Wattig http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/05/chinese-social-networks-virtually-out-earn-facebook-and-myspace-a-market-analysis/comment-page-2/#comment-2699651 Facebook in Europa führend - in China nicht | Leander Wattig Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:26:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=54109#comment-2699651 [...] ► Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis [...] [...] ► Chinese Social Networks ‘Virtually’ Out-Earn Facebook And MySpace: A Market Analysis [...]

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