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	<title>Comments on: SpiralFrog Goes Belly Up</title>
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		<title>By: Startup-Fehler: Teures Onlinemarketing lässt Erfolgstraum platzen » netzwertig.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2923781</link>
		<dc:creator>Startup-Fehler: Teures Onlinemarketing lässt Erfolgstraum platzen » netzwertig.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SuchmaschinenmarketingIm März diesen Jahres schloss ein in Europa wenig bekannter Musikdienst namens SpiralFrog seine Tore. Der 2004 gegründete und 2007 in der Beta-Phase gestartete Dienst gehörte zu den ersten Vertretern einer neuen Generation durch Anzeigen finanzierter digitaler Musikangebote. SpiralFrog bot Nutzern aus Nordamerika kostenlose, in DRM verpackte Song-Downloads, unter anderem von Universal und EMI. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SuchmaschinenmarketingIm März diesen Jahres schloss ein in Europa wenig bekannter Musikdienst namens SpiralFrog seine Tore. Der 2004 gegründete und 2007 in der Beta-Phase gestartete Dienst gehörte zu den ersten Vertretern einer neuen Generation durch Anzeigen finanzierter digitaler Musikangebote. SpiralFrog bot Nutzern aus Nordamerika kostenlose, in DRM verpackte Song-Downloads, unter anderem von Universal und EMI. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="17821218">Bryce Drennan</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2796191</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="17821218">Bryce Drennan</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in a final grasp at making money they sold their mailing list to the spammers!

While technically not against their privacy policy (http://web.archive.org/web/20080213034624/www.spiralfrog.com/pages/privacy.aspx) SpiralFrog sold their entire email list to spammers.  Starting on June 7th I have now received over 250 spam emails at the address I used to register for them. I know they sold it since I used a unique email address when registering.

I hate spam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in a final grasp at making money they sold their mailing list to the spammers!</p>
<p>While technically not against their privacy policy (<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20080213034624/www.spiralfrog.com/pages/privacy.aspx" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://web.archive.org/web/20080213034624/www.spiralfrog.com/pages/privacy.aspx'>http://web.arch...es/privacy.aspx</a>) SpiralFrog sold their entire email list to spammers.  Starting on June 7th I have now received over 250 spam emails at the address I used to register for them. I know they sold it since I used a unique email address when registering.</p>
<p>I hate spam!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2781625</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would you go out and buy cd&#039;s then. the one thing that made spiral frog better then other free legal music services was there support of drm enabled mobile devices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why would you go out and buy cd&#8217;s then. the one thing that made spiral frog better then other free legal music services was there support of drm enabled mobile devices</p>
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		<title>By: Free Music</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2756699</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone wants something for free on the Internet. They expect companies to figure out how to make money off of advertising. The truth of the matter is though that Google Ads might help pay salaries, but it&#039;s not enough to keep any business going. The free music model is pretty much dead. Murdoch was right, the days of free content on the web are quickly coming to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone wants something for free on the Internet. They expect companies to figure out how to make money off of advertising. The truth of the matter is though that Google Ads might help pay salaries, but it&#8217;s not enough to keep any business going. The free music model is pretty much dead. Murdoch was right, the days of free content on the web are quickly coming to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: john r blade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2732085</link>
		<dc:creator>john r blade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this sucks it was a good site the music companys should be ashamed of themselves but thay are not thx god for p2p programs thay will never stop those lol .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this sucks it was a good site the music companys should be ashamed of themselves but thay are not thx god for p2p programs thay will never stop those lol .</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2727858</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Sprial Frog... all the newest music, right on my computer. It made me want to go out and buy CDs that I might want to listen to somewhere other than my computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Sprial Frog&#8230; all the newest music, right on my computer. It made me want to go out and buy CDs that I might want to listen to somewhere other than my computer.</p>
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		<title>By: CR617</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2711380</link>
		<dc:creator>CR617</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sucks!  I downloaded the majority of my mp3&#039;s from SpiralFrog and I turned so many friends and family on to the site.  It&#039;s a real shame they couldn&#039;t last.  
Oh well....se la vie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sucks!  I downloaded the majority of my mp3&#8217;s from SpiralFrog and I turned so many friends and family on to the site.  It&#8217;s a real shame they couldn&#8217;t last.<br />
Oh well&#8230;.se la vie.</p>
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		<title>By: unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2710783</link>
		<dc:creator>unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can always find a drm decoder online there are a few free good ones out there and then it wont matter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can always find a drm decoder online there are a few free good ones out there and then it wont matter</p>
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		<title>By: Brownie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2703547</link>
		<dc:creator>Brownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I personally don&#039;t like streaming sites is simple- they&#039;re not portable. I don&#039;t have a laptop, and I want to be able to listen to music anywhere- at the gym, on a road trip- and not be tied to a computer by an umbilical-cord-like pair of earphones.

I also don&#039;t want to pay for my music. Call me cheap, but when you&#039;re a teen, money is limited. 

So it&#039;s definitely a pity Spiralfrog&#039;s dead. Does anyone know about any other free (legal) sites? 

I&#039;m NOT looking for music search engines (beemp3, umusicdownloads, etc) whose quality is usually less than fantastic, and who also tend to have viruses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I personally don&#8217;t like streaming sites is simple- they&#8217;re not portable. I don&#8217;t have a laptop, and I want to be able to listen to music anywhere- at the gym, on a road trip- and not be tied to a computer by an umbilical-cord-like pair of earphones.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t want to pay for my music. Call me cheap, but when you&#8217;re a teen, money is limited. </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s definitely a pity Spiralfrog&#8217;s dead. Does anyone know about any other free (legal) sites? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m NOT looking for music search engines (beemp3, umusicdownloads, etc) whose quality is usually less than fantastic, and who also tend to have viruses!</p>
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		<title>By: Goom Radio Hopes To Avoid Same Sad Song</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2699113</link>
		<dc:creator>Goom Radio Hopes To Avoid Same Sad Song</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Inc. croaked. Seeqpod Inc. found bankruptcy. Ruckus Network Inc. went out with a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago &#124; Reviews Manual</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2690902</link>
		<dc:creator>News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago &#124; Reviews Manual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] activity around an ad-supported penalization moving assist (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s just where Amie Street is thinking on attractive Songza. Currently, the assist [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] activity around an ad-supported penalization moving assist (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s just where Amie Street is thinking on attractive Songza. Currently, the assist [...]</p>
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		<title>By: News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago &#124; CHARGED's Digital Lifestyle at Work or Play</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2690736</link>
		<dc:creator>News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago &#124; CHARGED's Digital Lifestyle at Work or Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tech World &#187; News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2690658</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech World &#187; News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The New Green Movement &#187; News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2690628</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Green Movement &#187; News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</p>
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		<title>By: News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2690590</link>
		<dc:creator>News Flash: Amie Street Swallowed Songza Six Months Ago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] business around an ad-supported music streaming service (look at what happened to Ruckus and SpiralFrog), but that&#8217;s exactly where Amie Street is planning on taking Songza. Currently, the service [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Babygirl</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2685127</link>
		<dc:creator>Babygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I KNO EVERYTHING THATS GOOD HAS TO COME 2 AN END ONE DAY. SO IM JUS HELPING OUT, WHOMEVER MAY NEED SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET THERE MUSIC. I DO RECOMMEND  &quot;UMUSICDOWNLOADS.COM&quot; AND &quot;beemp3.com&quot;. AFTER A COUPLE DOWNLOADS FROM THESE SITES IT GETS EASIER. I HOPE THIS HELPS!!! R.I.P. SPIRALFROG!!!!! FROM ANOTHER LOYAL USER. U WILL B MISSED!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNO EVERYTHING THATS GOOD HAS TO COME 2 AN END ONE DAY. SO IM JUS HELPING OUT, WHOMEVER MAY NEED SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET THERE MUSIC. I DO RECOMMEND  &#8220;UMUSICDOWNLOADS.COM&#8221; AND &#8220;beemp3.com&#8221;. AFTER A COUPLE DOWNLOADS FROM THESE SITES IT GETS EASIER. I HOPE THIS HELPS!!! R.I.P. SPIRALFROG!!!!! FROM ANOTHER LOYAL USER. U WILL B MISSED!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kati K</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2683676</link>
		<dc:creator>Kati K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use Ruckus... then I switched to Spiral Frog and now once again I can&#039;t get free music. I really want to do it the legal way but it looks more and more like my friends who do it illegally have the better idea. 
 Do you know of any other free music providers like Ruckus and Sprial Frog that I can use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use Ruckus&#8230; then I switched to Spiral Frog and now once again I can&#8217;t get free music. I really want to do it the legal way but it looks more and more like my friends who do it illegally have the better idea.<br />
 Do you know of any other free music providers like Ruckus and Sprial Frog that I can use?</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2682205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If  you right click on your spiral frog mp3 files and click on properties, it will tell you when the license is up on them.  Mine say April 26th, so I&#039;m guessing after that, my songs will be gone.  I liked Spiral Frog - they had a lot of artists that I liked (Weezer, Lady GaGa, Taylor Swift, etc) and the ads were not annoying at all.  I&#039;ve been on paid sites that didn&#039;t work as smoothly and had more junk on the screen.  Very sad to see it go :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If  you right click on your spiral frog mp3 files and click on properties, it will tell you when the license is up on them.  Mine say April 26th, so I&#8217;m guessing after that, my songs will be gone.  I liked Spiral Frog &#8211; they had a lot of artists that I liked (Weezer, Lady GaGa, Taylor Swift, etc) and the ads were not annoying at all.  I&#8217;ve been on paid sites that didn&#8217;t work as smoothly and had more junk on the screen.  Very sad to see it go <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2673629</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJNorth: Good comment.  I found the service to be really amazing, for FREE.  The ads were not obtrusive and the requirements on the user minimal.  If you had told me when I was a teenager that you could download just about every Bowie album for FREE, I would have built a damn time machine.  It frustrates me when I read that people just were not interested in the service because they had to log in here and there.  I am almost angry that more people did not use the service because it was so good, and legal...no not perfect, but....FREE!  Anyway, sure liked having that Coltrane catalog to listen to...Miles Davis. Every Who album.  Almost every Radiohead recording.  Sonic Youth, tons of SST stuff.  Even pop crap!  The list goes on.  Ella Fitzgerald.  Django Reinhardt.  Thin Lizzy.  Lionel Hampton.   Sigh.  Frog, you will be missed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJNorth: Good comment.  I found the service to be really amazing, for FREE.  The ads were not obtrusive and the requirements on the user minimal.  If you had told me when I was a teenager that you could download just about every Bowie album for FREE, I would have built a damn time machine.  It frustrates me when I read that people just were not interested in the service because they had to log in here and there.  I am almost angry that more people did not use the service because it was so good, and legal&#8230;no not perfect, but&#8230;.FREE!  Anyway, sure liked having that Coltrane catalog to listen to&#8230;Miles Davis. Every Who album.  Almost every Radiohead recording.  Sonic Youth, tons of SST stuff.  Even pop crap!  The list goes on.  Ella Fitzgerald.  Django Reinhardt.  Thin Lizzy.  Lionel Hampton.   Sigh.  Frog, you will be missed.</p>
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		<title>By: Musik-Streaming: Dunkle Wolken am Internet-Himmel » netzwertig.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2670998</link>
		<dc:creator>Musik-Streaming: Dunkle Wolken am Internet-Himmel » netzwertig.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fabchannel, ein Portal, auf dem man sich professionelle Konzertmitschnitte anschauen konnte, sowie SpiralFrog, das durch Werbung finanzierte, kostenlose Downloads bekannter Künstler [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fabchannel, ein Portal, auf dem man sich professionelle Konzertmitschnitte anschauen konnte, sowie SpiralFrog, das durch Werbung finanzierte, kostenlose Downloads bekannter Künstler [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2666585</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not even Roger Bumford could save it</description>
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		<title>By: SpiralFrog Goes Under &#124; RouteNote Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2665430</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiralFrog Goes Under &#124; RouteNote Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been a lot of reports over the weekend about the demise of SpiralFrog. SpiralFrog was an ad supported music streaming and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: FireBrand</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2663481</link>
		<dc:creator>FireBrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god another person thinking free means you don&#039;t have to pay.  Free market means that the market decides.  You guys, the listener. 


You ALL pretty much have decided that it&#039;s ok to DL songs for free and not pay for them.  Now you are pissing and moaning because the company who owns the recording won&#039;t release them.  What incentive do they have.  They are in business to make money not give it to you for free.


The changes you are seeing the music world is just the start.  I presume that all bands will move to the net as the only means of distribution of their music.  I also am willing to bet that they give it away free and just go on tour to make money.  That will SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the number of bands.  Bands are also businesses, they require money (though less today than in the past) to record, to write music, and to basically not have to go to a day job to eat.


You complain that they don&#039;t release older music.  Then be willing to realize that getting it for free isn&#039;t going to stimulate someone to spend money.  Oh and by the way.  There are serious costs involved in setting up a site, paying the hosting costs bandwidth etc...  That&#039;s not free.


So what you are asking is for a business who has investors, oh like someones parent or grandparents or you, to pay good money to make the recording, put the recording up on the site that costs them money to build, and then pay monthly just so you all can have the music for free?


Granted it doesn&#039;t cost as much as it used to for these things, but they aren&#039;t free.  


That makes as much sense as you paying for your home leaving the front door open and then having everyone come over and pay you nothing while they camp out in your house.  Using the electricity you pay for, your food etc...  Why would you do that?  Then why would a music company give it away for nothing?


YOU figure out how to incent them to release old music for free?  You figure that out and you will make a pile of money.  You will need it to pay for that 24 hour party at your house with everyone living there for free.


Wake up and Smell the Coffee.


PS I think the old style music companies are dead.  Mainly because the failed at embracing the internet, but also because everyone out there decided that it was ok in their world view to steal from them.  In the end it will be interesting to see if real music continues to be made after there is no one to bankroll the band while they create that music.


You reap what you sow in this case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god another person thinking free means you don&#8217;t have to pay.  Free market means that the market decides.  You guys, the listener. </p>
<p>You ALL pretty much have decided that it&#8217;s ok to DL songs for free and not pay for them.  Now you are pissing and moaning because the company who owns the recording won&#8217;t release them.  What incentive do they have.  They are in business to make money not give it to you for free.</p>
<p>The changes you are seeing the music world is just the start.  I presume that all bands will move to the net as the only means of distribution of their music.  I also am willing to bet that they give it away free and just go on tour to make money.  That will SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the number of bands.  Bands are also businesses, they require money (though less today than in the past) to record, to write music, and to basically not have to go to a day job to eat.</p>
<p>You complain that they don&#8217;t release older music.  Then be willing to realize that getting it for free isn&#8217;t going to stimulate someone to spend money.  Oh and by the way.  There are serious costs involved in setting up a site, paying the hosting costs bandwidth etc&#8230;  That&#8217;s not free.</p>
<p>So what you are asking is for a business who has investors, oh like someones parent or grandparents or you, to pay good money to make the recording, put the recording up on the site that costs them money to build, and then pay monthly just so you all can have the music for free?</p>
<p>Granted it doesn&#8217;t cost as much as it used to for these things, but they aren&#8217;t free.  </p>
<p>That makes as much sense as you paying for your home leaving the front door open and then having everyone come over and pay you nothing while they camp out in your house.  Using the electricity you pay for, your food etc&#8230;  Why would you do that?  Then why would a music company give it away for nothing?</p>
<p>YOU figure out how to incent them to release old music for free?  You figure that out and you will make a pile of money.  You will need it to pay for that 24 hour party at your house with everyone living there for free.</p>
<p>Wake up and Smell the Coffee.</p>
<p>PS I think the old style music companies are dead.  Mainly because the failed at embracing the internet, but also because everyone out there decided that it was ok in their world view to steal from them.  In the end it will be interesting to see if real music continues to be made after there is no one to bankroll the band while they create that music.</p>
<p>You reap what you sow in this case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MiseryKid</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2663196</link>
		<dc:creator>MiseryKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now my soundTaxi program is worthless!</description>
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		<title>By: MiseryKid</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/20/spiralfrog-goes-belly-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2663194</link>
		<dc:creator>MiseryKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First Ruckus now this?
Awwh welll!
Back to Frostwire!</description>
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Awwh welll!<br />
Back to Frostwire!</p>
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