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		<title>By: Morag</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2656846</link>
		<dc:creator>Morag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The core business in media is about the brand promise, not the channel of delivery. If you&#039;re only around because you have access to a printing press, you&#039;re in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The core business in media is about the brand promise, not the channel of delivery. If you&#8217;re only around because you have access to a printing press, you&#8217;re in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: The Great Gazzoo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2655831</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great Gazzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch: Media companies don&#8217;t need digital divisions &#124; MoJo DoJo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2653889</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch: Media companies don&#8217;t need digital divisions &#124; MoJo DoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Schonfeld makes the case that stand-alone digital divisions are becoming increasingly irrelevant at big-media companies. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: paullmf</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2653666</link>
		<dc:creator>paullmf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on. You&#039;re saying that Digital Divisions in big media companies are dead, because M&amp;A&#039;s have slowed? And you cant see a reason for them to exist without M&amp;A tactics? 
Can you imagine if every division in CBS did its OWN new media? Can you imagine the duplication, cost inefficiencies, message dilution, internal fights over content rights...well its endless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on. You&#8217;re saying that Digital Divisions in big media companies are dead, because M&amp;A&#8217;s have slowed? And you cant see a reason for them to exist without M&amp;A tactics?<br />
Can you imagine if every division in CBS did its OWN new media? Can you imagine the duplication, cost inefficiencies, message dilution, internal fights over content rights&#8230;well its endless.</p>
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		<title>By: ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA &#171; Daily Marauder</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2653450</link>
		<dc:creator>ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA &#171; Daily Marauder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are said to be &#8220;transitioning to the business-building mode.&#8221; (Iwantmedia 3/12, http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are said to be &#8220;transitioning to the business-building mode.&#8221; (Iwantmedia 3/12, <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media'>http://www.tech...ad-at-big-media</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mediavorous &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links for March 12th</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2653403</link>
		<dc:creator>Mediavorous &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links for March 12th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2653349</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true</description>
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		<title>By: 2above</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2653248</link>
		<dc:creator>2above</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M&amp;A is gone at both large and small scale, institutional and individual. I learned this in a hard way.</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-03-12 &#124; acervus.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2653242</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-03-12 &#124; acervus.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: not sure either</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652979</link>
		<dc:creator>not sure either</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was a good article until the last sentence..

&quot;how many of them get it?&quot;

there is NOTHING TO GET, there is no MONEY here.

until the model gets shifted, or the consumer engages on a new order of magnitutde with digital platforms this shit is on hiatus. 

so wait another 20 years when the kid who is 0 now is 20 and can twit,fip,fb,txsms with his toes while sleeps , otherwise save your cash and use it wisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was a good article until the last sentence..</p>
<p>&#8220;how many of them get it?&#8221;</p>
<p>there is NOTHING TO GET, there is no MONEY here.</p>
<p>until the model gets shifted, or the consumer engages on a new order of magnitutde with digital platforms this shit is on hiatus. </p>
<p>so wait another 20 years when the kid who is 0 now is 20 and can twit,fip,fb,txsms with his toes while sleeps , otherwise save your cash and use it wisely.</p>
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		<title>By: who knows</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652854</link>
		<dc:creator>who knows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is not clear why media companies even need separate digital divisions anymore.&quot;

Because of AOL bringing down TimeWarner.  Everyone else learned form that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is not clear why media companies even need separate digital divisions anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because of AOL bringing down TimeWarner.  Everyone else learned form that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652822</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;M&amp;A is gone&quot;....until it comes back again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;M&amp;A is gone&#8221;&#8230;.until it comes back again!</p>
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		<title>By: HipMojo.com &#187; Big Media: The Bigger They Were, The Smaller They Now Look</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652709</link>
		<dc:creator>HipMojo.com &#187; Big Media: The Bigger They Were, The Smaller They Now Look</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Schonfeld over at TechCrunch comments: Consider, for example, that CBS’s entire market capitalization is now only $2.5 billion, which [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ビッグメディアは、デジタル事業部では死んでいる @ このガジェット＆テクノロジー関連のニュース</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652441</link>
		<dc:creator>ビッグメディアは、デジタル事業部では死んでいる @ このガジェット＆テクノロジー関連のニュース</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch   Tech Industries, Web [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Die Digital-Abteilungen sind tot. Auf Big Media @ Gadgets &#38; Technology News</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652440</link>
		<dc:creator>Die Digital-Abteilungen sind tot. Auf Big Media @ Gadgets &#38; Technology News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 数字化司死在大媒体 @ 工具及科技新闻</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652439</link>
		<dc:creator>数字化司死在大媒体 @ 工具及科技新闻</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Deano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually... true! If the US went all European on our asses with what&#039;s allowable, there&#039;d be a brief firestorm, but then a huge resurgence in viewership, at least for a few years. Middle America isn&#039;t going totally broadband anytime soon, and they&#039;d eat those boobs right up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually&#8230; true! If the US went all European on our asses with what&#8217;s allowable, there&#8217;d be a brief firestorm, but then a huge resurgence in viewership, at least for a few years. Middle America isn&#8217;t going totally broadband anytime soon, and they&#8217;d eat those boobs right up!</p>
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		<title>By: Deano</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652240</link>
		<dc:creator>Deano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I click on facebook ads, which have been surprisingly relevant. I&#039;ve got a batch of great-fitting pants, along with tips for events in my area that have been fun to check out. All in the advert sections... So, maybe you&#039;re just unlucky vis a vis relevancy, or missing out on some new finds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I click on facebook ads, which have been surprisingly relevant. I&#8217;ve got a batch of great-fitting pants, along with tips for events in my area that have been fun to check out. All in the advert sections&#8230; So, maybe you&#8217;re just unlucky vis a vis relevancy, or missing out on some new finds?</p>
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		<title>By: nooge hooobs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652212</link>
		<dc:creator>nooge hooobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bcasters need to show huuuggee booooobs</description>
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		<title>By: Jon L</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652065</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s just the problem right there.  Old school execs = old school overhead.  Most large media companies structure their &quot;digital division&quot; org charts just like their old broadcast businesses, and have $3-4m (on the low end) a year in overhead just in their execs.

There&#039;s very few large media companies who hire out-of-their-box thinkers who can come in, shake things up and see if they work, and do so without a $500k/year salary.  

The overhead costs of legacy org charts are a huge problem at these large media companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s just the problem right there.  Old school execs = old school overhead.  Most large media companies structure their &#8220;digital division&#8221; org charts just like their old broadcast businesses, and have $3-4m (on the low end) a year in overhead just in their execs.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s very few large media companies who hire out-of-their-box thinkers who can come in, shake things up and see if they work, and do so without a $500k/year salary.  </p>
<p>The overhead costs of legacy org charts are a huge problem at these large media companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Farber</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652032</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire world is in a depressed environment, but this will pass...and at CBS we have new school and old school execs working together to create the next generation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire world is in a depressed environment, but this will pass&#8230;and at CBS we have new school and old school execs working together to create the next generation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: marty</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2652003</link>
		<dc:creator>marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, powerful, arrogant and predictably absurd.</description>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2651980</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. 

What is wall street saying?

1. Metro newspapers are under-water. Paper costs (paper + print + distribution + labor to handle paper) is greater than revenues. Who&#039;s going to pay the editors, reps, and management?

2. Is broadcasting going the same route? These executives bet $3 million per show. For $3 million, what can a savvy web company achieve? What about $150 million per year? Take a look at what we achieved with less than $500k http://s.tEarn.com .

Yet, the same executives don&#039;t have the experience to make the right decisions in technology. They bet on shows without proof, using their experience to guide them. Can they do the same with hi-tech? 

Is this why the market cap of these companies have dropped so low? Are they in danger of following newspapers down the tube?

Investors seem to be saying yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. </p>
<p>What is wall street saying?</p>
<p>1. Metro newspapers are under-water. Paper costs (paper + print + distribution + labor to handle paper) is greater than revenues. Who&#8217;s going to pay the editors, reps, and management?</p>
<p>2. Is broadcasting going the same route? These executives bet $3 million per show. For $3 million, what can a savvy web company achieve? What about $150 million per year? Take a look at what we achieved with less than $500k <a href="http://s.tEarn.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://s.tEarn.com'>http://s.tEarn.com</a> .</p>
<p>Yet, the same executives don&#8217;t have the experience to make the right decisions in technology. They bet on shows without proof, using their experience to guide them. Can they do the same with hi-tech? </p>
<p>Is this why the market cap of these companies have dropped so low? Are they in danger of following newspapers down the tube?</p>
<p>Investors seem to be saying yes.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2651971</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one point, I actually liked reading comments at techcrunch but now it seems like it&#039;s 1 spam reply after the next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one point, I actually liked reading comments at techcrunch but now it seems like it&#8217;s 1 spam reply after the next.</p>
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		<title>By: classic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/11/the-digital-divisions-are-dead-at-big-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2651969</link>
		<dc:creator>classic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>powerful statement.</description>
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