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	<title>Comments on: WaTunes Sells Your Music On iTunes And Amazon Free Of Charge</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Rivers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-3010780</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Rivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rightwind,

That is a false statement and is far from the actual truth. WaTunes no longer charges $10 per month as we eliminated that whole model way back in March when this article took place.

As of now, WaTunes enables every artist &amp; label to gain access to iTunes for free (meaning no upfront charges + 100% of your royalties). For other store services, you can upgrade to VIP for $29.95 per year or do NOISE for $69.95 per album.

You&#039;ve heard it straight from the source! ;)

Kevin Rivers
CEO, WaTunes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rightwind,</p>
<p>That is a false statement and is far from the actual truth. WaTunes no longer charges $10 per month as we eliminated that whole model way back in March when this article took place.</p>
<p>As of now, WaTunes enables every artist &amp; label to gain access to iTunes for free (meaning no upfront charges + 100% of your royalties). For other store services, you can upgrade to VIP for $29.95 per year or do NOISE for $69.95 per album.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve heard it straight from the source! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kevin Rivers<br />
CEO, WaTunes</p>
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		<title>By: rightwind</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea right, another scam, they say its free but that&#039;s BS, 10 dollar montly fee for artists to upload songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea right, another scam, they say its free but that&#8217;s BS, 10 dollar montly fee for artists to upload songs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Rivers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-3007164</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Rivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,

Thank you for your inspiring words. It is your support that makes us work hard to provide ways to help music artists succeed and achieve their dreams.

@Missy: Thank you for your awesome words. I&#039;d like to give you a hug too. All of us at WaTunes truly appreciate your kind words and support and I hope that we&#039;ll be able to assist you to make your music career a tremendous success.

@RealityArchitect: Thank you for your inspiring words. It truly pleases me to see great feedback of what we&#039;re doing. Our goal is to create a huge change in the industry. There is a void to fill and we&#039;re here to fulfill it. Creating this whole new music world is just the beginning for WaTunes. As you&#039;ve said &quot;Infinite Possibilities&quot;, I strongly value those words as with WaTunes, I aim to make those possibilities truly endless.

Until next time, I thank everyone for your feedback (whether it is positive or negative) as this makes us find ways to improve and provide a much friendlier, faster, and quality service. Thank you once again for making WaTunes possible.

Kevin Rivers
CEO, WaTunes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Thank you for your inspiring words. It is your support that makes us work hard to provide ways to help music artists succeed and achieve their dreams.</p>
<p>@Missy: Thank you for your awesome words. I&#8217;d like to give you a hug too. All of us at WaTunes truly appreciate your kind words and support and I hope that we&#8217;ll be able to assist you to make your music career a tremendous success.</p>
<p>@RealityArchitect: Thank you for your inspiring words. It truly pleases me to see great feedback of what we&#8217;re doing. Our goal is to create a huge change in the industry. There is a void to fill and we&#8217;re here to fulfill it. Creating this whole new music world is just the beginning for WaTunes. As you&#8217;ve said &#8220;Infinite Possibilities&#8221;, I strongly value those words as with WaTunes, I aim to make those possibilities truly endless.</p>
<p>Until next time, I thank everyone for your feedback (whether it is positive or negative) as this makes us find ways to improve and provide a much friendlier, faster, and quality service. Thank you once again for making WaTunes possible.</p>
<p>Kevin Rivers<br />
CEO, WaTunes</p>
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		<title>By: RealityArchitect</title>
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		<dc:creator>RealityArchitect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kevin,

What you are doing is genius! The digital environment has created a paradigm shift not only for the music industry but for all business.

Alot of comments I have read here seem not to factoring in the phenomenon (That has arisen from the paradigm shift) that &quot;free&quot; is a legitimate model (Did anyone pay to be on facebook? or Myspace? or Linked In?....E.T.C.).

Companies that use a freemium model (like kevin has chosen to do) are open to succeed in new ways because they will be creatively developing new ways to build strong relationships with customers and leading the online economy with innovative ways to earn money around &quot;free&quot;.

What a perfect way to entice your customers to join your community. Give them something free that will A) help them make money and B) help them achieve their life long dreams of being a successful artist.

Once kevin has built his community around helping, he will have infinite possibilities to earn money with his active audiences. (The real money or currency on the web is &quot;attention&quot;)

I wish you all the best Kevin from one entrepreneur to another, enjoy the ride my friend it looks like its going to be an adventure!

If you need any help I would love to have a brainstorming session with you.


Peace!
&quot;Infinite Possibilities!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kevin,</p>
<p>What you are doing is genius! The digital environment has created a paradigm shift not only for the music industry but for all business.</p>
<p>Alot of comments I have read here seem not to factoring in the phenomenon (That has arisen from the paradigm shift) that &#8220;free&#8221; is a legitimate model (Did anyone pay to be on facebook? or Myspace? or Linked In?&#8230;.E.T.C.).</p>
<p>Companies that use a freemium model (like kevin has chosen to do) are open to succeed in new ways because they will be creatively developing new ways to build strong relationships with customers and leading the online economy with innovative ways to earn money around &#8220;free&#8221;.</p>
<p>What a perfect way to entice your customers to join your community. Give them something free that will A) help them make money and B) help them achieve their life long dreams of being a successful artist.</p>
<p>Once kevin has built his community around helping, he will have infinite possibilities to earn money with his active audiences. (The real money or currency on the web is &#8220;attention&#8221;)</p>
<p>I wish you all the best Kevin from one entrepreneur to another, enjoy the ride my friend it looks like its going to be an adventure!</p>
<p>If you need any help I would love to have a brainstorming session with you.</p>
<p>Peace!<br />
&#8220;Infinite Possibilities!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Missie Howbout</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2983436</link>
		<dc:creator>Missie Howbout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to give you all a big hug, Kevin, Tony, Peter, all you out there who genuinely help artists achieve their dreams and have their music listed.
Thank you for your efforts, thank you for your innovative ideas, my crew will certainly be utilizing them and using your services.

I would spend very little time responding to negativity, wouldn&#039;t waste these wonderful creative minds on that. 

Keep up the good work please. Looking forward to waveTunes new model. Cheers guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to give you all a big hug, Kevin, Tony, Peter, all you out there who genuinely help artists achieve their dreams and have their music listed.<br />
Thank you for your efforts, thank you for your innovative ideas, my crew will certainly be utilizing them and using your services.</p>
<p>I would spend very little time responding to negativity, wouldn&#8217;t waste these wonderful creative minds on that. </p>
<p>Keep up the good work please. Looking forward to waveTunes new model. Cheers guys</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2883773</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got as far as &quot;We&#039;ve went....&quot; (I googled this page as an associated website  - musicexpand.com  - had as of their 7 - only 7 - faq questions - how could they have missed this  &quot; Is all sales final?&quot;

Yes, suh, they sho&#039; izzz!

If this is what the &quot;CEO&quot; does to English, I wouldn&#039;t like to see what he does to money....

They be from Atlanta Gowgia, sho&#039; &#039;nuff!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got as far as &#8220;We&#8217;ve went&#8230;.&#8221; (I googled this page as an associated website  &#8211; musicexpand.com  &#8211; had as of their 7 &#8211; only 7 &#8211; faq questions &#8211; how could they have missed this  &#8221; Is all sales final?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, suh, they sho&#8217; izzz!</p>
<p>If this is what the &#8220;CEO&#8221; does to English, I wouldn&#8217;t like to see what he does to money&#8230;.</p>
<p>They be from Atlanta Gowgia, sho&#8217; &#8217;nuff!!</p>
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		<title>By: miss laidlaw</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2851996</link>
		<dc:creator>miss laidlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why people are running away from a company that is giving a free service. This doesn&#039;t make any sense. You complain about the price when its too high and when you get freeness you want to look a gift horse in the mouth. At the end of the day, I think what they are doing are great. For the paid VIP service you get a lot more stores which is incredible as it knocks Tune core out the system and I am a big fan of them also. I did a load of research on this yesterday and i must say Tunecore, Ditto Music and Wa Tunes have to be the best so far, in terms of what they are offering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why people are running away from a company that is giving a free service. This doesn&#8217;t make any sense. You complain about the price when its too high and when you get freeness you want to look a gift horse in the mouth. At the end of the day, I think what they are doing are great. For the paid VIP service you get a lot more stores which is incredible as it knocks Tune core out the system and I am a big fan of them also. I did a load of research on this yesterday and i must say Tunecore, Ditto Music and Wa Tunes have to be the best so far, in terms of what they are offering.</p>
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		<title>By: Blazing Minds - This, that and a little bit of the other..</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2715722</link>
		<dc:creator>Blazing Minds - This, that and a little bit of the other..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Indie Artists Now Get Paid 100% For Releasing Music for Free on WaTunes...&lt;/strong&gt;


                    
                    //
                Ok to follow on from one of my previous posts about CDBaby vs Tunecore, there is now another road that unsigned artists and Indie lables can take and it WaTunes.com.
As quoted in the WaTunes ...</description>
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<p>                    //<br />
                Ok to follow on from one of my previous posts about CDBaby vs Tunecore, there is now another road that unsigned artists and Indie lables can take and it WaTunes.com.<br />
As quoted in the WaTunes &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blazing Minds - This, that and a little bit of the other..</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2715721</link>
		<dc:creator>Blazing Minds - This, that and a little bit of the other..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Indie Artists Now Get Paid 100% For Releasing Music for Free on WaTunes...&lt;/strong&gt;


                    
                    //
                Ok to follow on from one of my previous posts about CDBaby vs Tunecore, there is now another road that unsigned artists and Indie lables can take and it WaTunes.com.
As quoted in the WaTunes ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Indie Artists Now Get Paid 100% For Releasing Music for Free on WaTunes&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>                    //<br />
                Ok to follow on from one of my previous posts about CDBaby vs Tunecore, there is now another road that unsigned artists and Indie lables can take and it WaTunes.com.<br />
As quoted in the WaTunes &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Internet-Musik-Preiskampf: Amazon zieht Apple iTunes nach &#124; TechFieber &#124; Hot Gadget Blog. Smart Tech News.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2690213</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet-Musik-Preiskampf: Amazon zieht Apple iTunes nach &#124; TechFieber &#124; Hot Gadget Blog. Smart Tech News.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WaTunes Sells Your Music On iTunes And Amazon Free Of Charge [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Internet-Musik-Preiskampf: Amazon zieht Apple iTunes nach &#124; TechFieber &#124; Hot Gadget Blog. Smart Tech News.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2690212</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet-Musik-Preiskampf: Amazon zieht Apple iTunes nach &#124; TechFieber &#124; Hot Gadget Blog. Smart Tech News.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WaTunes Sells Your Music On iTunes And Amazon Free Of Charge [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WaTunes Free Digitial Distribution &#124; Gen-Y Rock Stars</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2671872</link>
		<dc:creator>WaTunes Free Digitial Distribution &#124; Gen-Y Rock Stars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a tough crowd, but I think you and your team handled it with class and had some great responses. One of the major questions was in the event of WaTunes shutting down and artists essentially being left out to dry. In the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a tough crowd, but I think you and your team handled it with class and had some great responses. One of the major questions was in the event of WaTunes shutting down and artists essentially being left out to dry. In the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WaTunes distribui m&#250;sica para o iTunes de borla &#124; Remixtures</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2653874</link>
		<dc:creator>WaTunes distribui m&#250;sica para o iTunes de borla &#124; Remixtures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cento sob todas as receitas geradas pelos seus artistas. Mas agora fiquei a conhecer através do TechCrunch uma distribuidora que não cobra absolutamente nada pelo seu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cento sob todas as receitas geradas pelos seus artistas. Mas agora fiquei a conhecer através do TechCrunch uma distribuidora que não cobra absolutamente nada pelo seu [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VERTSOL in Wordpress</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2651489</link>
		<dc:creator>VERTSOL in Wordpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WaTunes on TechCrunch!...&lt;/strong&gt;

......</description>
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		<title>By: The Pageman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2651239</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pageman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first off, I&#039;m part of WaTunes and working on getting Asians to be part of this platform - think 4x the market size of the U.S. (i.e. China) being part of this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first off, I&#8217;m part of WaTunes and working on getting Asians to be part of this platform &#8211; think 4x the market size of the U.S. (i.e. China) being part of this</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great to see more companies offering independent artists digital distribution--just goes to show how much demand there is in this sector. Congratulations to you on joining into this business, Mr. Rivers, welcome. I mean it. I know first hand how difficult it is, and how much fun it can be. 

All of us, TuneCore, CD Baby, we&#039;re all building businesses that aim to get the artists into the stores without making them sign their lives away by entangling them into vicious contracts. Good. I don&#039;t want anyone to lose sight of how noble that cause is. Anyone willing to try and build a company without exploiting musicians is a good guy in my book.

You&#039;re trying a bold strategy, I admit, and I&#039;m really curious to see how it goes, especially if you scale. Should be interesting.

Do I think TuneCore strikes the perfect balance of fair price and awesome product? Well, sure, but I&#039;m biased. Do we need improvement? Every company does, and we&#039;re working on it. So it&#039;s a race, like any industry, and the consumer is the the judge and the ultimate winner. 

So as I say to everyone else in this space, best of luck: may the better model and the best service win. 

--Peter
peter@tunecore.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to see more companies offering independent artists digital distribution&#8211;just goes to show how much demand there is in this sector. Congratulations to you on joining into this business, Mr. Rivers, welcome. I mean it. I know first hand how difficult it is, and how much fun it can be. </p>
<p>All of us, TuneCore, CD Baby, we&#8217;re all building businesses that aim to get the artists into the stores without making them sign their lives away by entangling them into vicious contracts. Good. I don&#8217;t want anyone to lose sight of how noble that cause is. Anyone willing to try and build a company without exploiting musicians is a good guy in my book.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re trying a bold strategy, I admit, and I&#8217;m really curious to see how it goes, especially if you scale. Should be interesting.</p>
<p>Do I think TuneCore strikes the perfect balance of fair price and awesome product? Well, sure, but I&#8217;m biased. Do we need improvement? Every company does, and we&#8217;re working on it. So it&#8217;s a race, like any industry, and the consumer is the the judge and the ultimate winner. </p>
<p>So as I say to everyone else in this space, best of luck: may the better model and the best service win. </p>
<p>&#8211;Peter<br />
<a href="mailto:peter@tunecore.com">peter@tunecore.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dashiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dashiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - I work at RouteNote with Steve; I don&#039;t want to exacerbate the argument here, but we&#039;re in the same industry and we know how much admin work it takes to check incoming music and properly process payments from sales partners. It&#039;s not something we can afford to do for free, or something we can fit in around a day job that pays our rent.

Free is always going to be the best deal for artists, no argument there, but it isn&#039;t unfair to expect some recompense for doing a good job, and getting paid for your work means that you have a truly sustainable business model.

As well as working in music distribution, I am also pretty conversant with online advertising rates, and to generate enough traffic to pay five people&#039;s wages is not a small undertaking. 

Assuming a $30K salary for each employee (not unreasonable) you&#039;d need 375million pageviews annually at a $0.40 CPM to generate that kind of revenue. That&#039;s without paying the artists whose music is onsite a cent for all the streams of their music. Myspace achieved it, because they were innovators, but now that there are other models established, with existing major record label partnerships, how are WaMusic going to distinguish themselves against competitors like Spotify and Last FM?

No hard feelings here guys, we&#039;re all trying to find ways into a market that&#039;s tough enough without slinging mud... race you to an IPO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; I work at RouteNote with Steve; I don&#8217;t want to exacerbate the argument here, but we&#8217;re in the same industry and we know how much admin work it takes to check incoming music and properly process payments from sales partners. It&#8217;s not something we can afford to do for free, or something we can fit in around a day job that pays our rent.</p>
<p>Free is always going to be the best deal for artists, no argument there, but it isn&#8217;t unfair to expect some recompense for doing a good job, and getting paid for your work means that you have a truly sustainable business model.</p>
<p>As well as working in music distribution, I am also pretty conversant with online advertising rates, and to generate enough traffic to pay five people&#8217;s wages is not a small undertaking. </p>
<p>Assuming a $30K salary for each employee (not unreasonable) you&#8217;d need 375million pageviews annually at a $0.40 CPM to generate that kind of revenue. That&#8217;s without paying the artists whose music is onsite a cent for all the streams of their music. Myspace achieved it, because they were innovators, but now that there are other models established, with existing major record label partnerships, how are WaMusic going to distinguish themselves against competitors like Spotify and Last FM?</p>
<p>No hard feelings here guys, we&#8217;re all trying to find ways into a market that&#8217;s tough enough without slinging mud&#8230; race you to an IPO?</p>
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		<title>By: H.K.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2648562</link>
		<dc:creator>H.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indie music is gaining a lot of steam. That market segment must be growing rapidly, those trying to build support for it are growing exponentially it seems.  This is a significant gamble, but if this segment gets half as big as foretasted it will be worth the risk.  Before I purchased something off one of these sites I&#039;d check it out at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justaskgemalto.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; digital security site though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indie music is gaining a lot of steam. That market segment must be growing rapidly, those trying to build support for it are growing exponentially it seems.  This is a significant gamble, but if this segment gets half as big as foretasted it will be worth the risk.  Before I purchased something off one of these sites I&#8217;d check it out at <a href="http://www.justaskgemalto.com/" rel="nofollow">This</a> digital security site though.</p>
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		<title>By: iTunesとAmazonへの音楽販売代理サービスのWaTunes、無料化を決断 &#124; KGRAND ONLINE NEWS</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2648548</link>
		<dc:creator>iTunesとAmazonへの音楽販売代理サービスのWaTunes、無料化を決断 &#124; KGRAND ONLINE NEWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] InformationWaTunesInformation provided by CrunchBase[原文へ]（翻訳：Namekawa, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] InformationWaTunesInformation provided by CrunchBase[原文へ]（翻訳：Namekawa, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neno Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2648046</link>
		<dc:creator>Neno Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply Mr Rivers.</description>
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		<title>By: mark russell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2648003</link>
		<dc:creator>mark russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to try this out                                                  </description>
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		<title>By: mark russell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2648002</link>
		<dc:creator>mark russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gives options, which is good.</description>
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		<title>By: mark russell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2648001</link>
		<dc:creator>mark russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gives options, which is good.</description>
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		<title>By: farmhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2647797</link>
		<dc:creator>farmhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best of luck to them, although it seems a bit like they&#039;re winging it on the revenue side, and haven&#039;t exactly figured that minor detail out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best of luck to them, although it seems a bit like they&#8217;re winging it on the revenue side, and haven&#8217;t exactly figured that minor detail out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sruli Broocker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/06/watunes-sells-your-music-on-itunes-and-amazon-free-of-charge/comment-page-1/#comment-2647524</link>
		<dc:creator>Sruli Broocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really amazing to see a service like this for independent music producers.  Do they have anything like this for independent filmmakers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really amazing to see a service like this for independent music producers.  Do they have anything like this for independent filmmakers?</p>
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