Comments on: Y Combinator’s FathomDB Takes The Hassle Out Of Managing Your Database http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:28:13 -0800 hourly 1 By: مركز تحميل http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2957225 مركز تحميل Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:32:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2957225 So name dropping EC2 is pure hype, running a database as a service would be cheaper run off dedicating hosting or dedicated hardware, plus the issues with impermanent storage disappear So name dropping EC2 is pure hype, running a database as a service would be cheaper run off dedicating hosting or dedicated hardware, plus the issues with impermanent storage disappear

]]> By: منتديات http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2957211 منتديات Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:25:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2957211 actually now that i think of it, if i pay my Shell host by bandwidth, it would require my host to download the sql results from this service, and then serve it to the end user. actually now that i think of it, if i pay my Shell host by bandwidth, it would require my host to download the sql results from this service, and then serve it to the end user.

]]> By: Lance http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2660589 Lance Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:19:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2660589 agree also freefreebiefinder.com/ agree also

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]]> By: Databases in the cloud : systems.tinuum.net http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2647526 Databases in the cloud : systems.tinuum.net Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:40:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2647526 [...] I really need is for my DB to be up in the cloud somewhere…” and hey presto, Google fessed up this article. Mind you, I neglected to prefix my search with “free”, which I suspect fathomDB [...] [...] I really need is for my DB to be up in the cloud somewhere…” and hey presto, Google fessed up this article. Mind you, I neglected to prefix my search with “free”, which I suspect fathomDB [...]

]]> By: Circlejerk him on your own time, Henry http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2642307 Circlejerk him on your own time, Henry Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:26:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2642307 Shilling for handjobs aint journalism. But it sure seems to be part of the Ycombinator business model. Shilling for handjobs aint journalism.

But it sure seems to be part of the Ycombinator business model.

]]> By: fireplaces http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2641100 fireplaces Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2641100 That's the type of work that lots of small businesses love to offload. Best of luck to them. That’s the type of work that lots of small businesses love to offload. Best of luck to them.

]]> By: FathomDB: Database as a service, in the cloud | Colin Charles Agenda http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2640896 FathomDB: Database as a service, in the cloud | Colin Charles Agenda Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:52:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2640896 [...] This is a Y Combinator company, I first read about this in TechCrunch, and apparently, there was some mention of this during their cloud event last week, where Lew [...] [...] This is a Y Combinator company, I first read about this in TechCrunch, and apparently, there was some mention of this during their cloud event last week, where Lew [...]

]]> By: lemonobrien@yahoo.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2640545 lemonobrien@yahoo.com Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:57:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2640545 are you a child, can't even call me an asshole? We ned to shoot people like you and make america better. no games, no bs. just guns and butter. are you a child, can’t even call me an asshole? We ned to shoot people like you and make america better. no games, no bs. just guns and butter.

]]> By: lemonobrien@yahoo.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2640542 lemonobrien@yahoo.com Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:51:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2640542 retard.... you never actually delete in a database. you mark it for delete. you're just stupid and have never worked in production. retard…. you never actually delete in a database. you mark it for delete.

you’re just stupid and have never worked in production.

]]> By: Cloud Computing Labeled “The New Dotcom”…03.01.09 « The Proverbial Lone Wolf Librarian’s Weblog http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2640358 Cloud Computing Labeled “The New Dotcom”…03.01.09 « The Proverbial Lone Wolf Librarian’s Weblog Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:53:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2640358 [...] in the cloud straight from a laptop’s camera—no uploading required. FathomDB is putting a relational database in the cloud (on Amazon’s EC2), and Diomede Storage is offering its own cloud service with a twist: online [...] [...] in the cloud straight from a laptop’s camera—no uploading required. FathomDB is putting a relational database in the cloud (on Amazon’s EC2), and Diomede Storage is offering its own cloud service with a twist: online [...]

]]> By: H.K. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2640343 H.K. Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:36:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2640343 Not extremely innovative but I can see a few markets/businesses that might opt for this. The admin service is nice for some people but I wonder if anyone will buy it just for that. As long as we are still getting ma.gnolia type stories coming out I'll be checking <a href="http://www.justaskgemalto.com/" rel="nofollow">This</a> site for digital security info. Not extremely innovative but I can see a few markets/businesses that might opt for this. The admin service is nice for some people but I wonder if anyone will buy it just for that. As long as we are still getting ma.gnolia type stories coming out I’ll be checking This site for digital security info.

]]> By: Y CombinatorのFathomDBがデータベース管理のルーチンワークを肩代わり | KGRAND ONLINE NEWS http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2640311 Y CombinatorのFathomDBがデータベース管理のルーチンワークを肩代わり | KGRAND ONLINE NEWS Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:59:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2640311 [...] InformationFathomDBInformation provided by CrunchBase[原文へ]（翻訳：Namekawa, [...] [...] InformationFathomDBInformation provided by CrunchBase[原文へ]（翻訳：Namekawa, [...]

]]> By: http://www.digiwu.com » Blog Archive » “The Cloud Is The New Dotcom” (Video Highlights) http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639999 http://www.digiwu.com » Blog Archive » “The Cloud Is The New Dotcom” (Video Highlights) Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:49:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639999 [...] in the cloud straight from a laptop’s camera—no uploading required. FathomDB is putting a relational database in the cloud (on Amazon’s EC2), and Diomede Storage is offering its own cloud service with a twist: online [...] [...] in the cloud straight from a laptop’s camera—no uploading required. FathomDB is putting a relational database in the cloud (on Amazon’s EC2), and Diomede Storage is offering its own cloud service with a twist: online [...]

]]> By: “The Cloud Is The New Dotcom” (Video Highlights) http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639994 “The Cloud Is The New Dotcom” (Video Highlights) Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:39:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639994 [...] in the cloud straight from a laptop’s camera—no uploading required. FathomDB is putting a relational database in the cloud (on Amazon’s EC2), and Diomede Storage is offering its own cloud service with a twist: online [...] [...] in the cloud straight from a laptop’s camera—no uploading required. FathomDB is putting a relational database in the cloud (on Amazon’s EC2), and Diomede Storage is offering its own cloud service with a twist: online [...]

]]> By: PhilD http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639924 PhilD Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:02:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639924 PHPMyAdmin + mytop + nagios big frickin whoop. good luck with that. PHPMyAdmin + mytop + nagios

big frickin whoop. good luck with that.

]]> By: Janes http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639803 Janes Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:00:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639803 Best of luck to all those that put in all the hard work and man hours to get it going.. maybe when they get their pricings up it’ll make sense in the sense that they’re undercutting my provider.. actually now that i think of it, if i pay my Shell host by bandwidth, it would require my host to download the sql results from this service, and then serve it to the end user. http://www.kisalt.net/hs Best of luck to all those that put in all the hard work and man hours to get it going.. maybe when they get their pricings up it’ll make sense in the sense that they’re undercutting my provider.. actually now that i think of it, if i pay my Shell host by bandwidth, it would require my host to download the sql results from this service, and then serve it to the end user.

http://www.kisalt.net/hs

]]> By: PaulM http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639778 PaulM Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:41:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639778 Databases as a Service eh I tend to agree with @RBS on this. Running MySQL in EC2 requires using either the Elastic Block Store (EBS) or having sufficient slaves to survive the failure of one or more EC2 virtual machines. Unfortunately their pricing model is pay as you go... that is not going to work for databases, they will need to be up 24x7. Are your queries going to wait 5 mins whilst an EC2 instance fires up? EC2 is better used as peak demand or on demand computing, for 24x7 use a dedicated hosting service. So name dropping EC2 is pure hype, running a database as a service would be cheaper run off dedicating hosting or dedicated hardware, plus the issues with impermanent storage disappear. Have Fun Databases as a Service eh
I tend to agree with @RBS on this.
Running MySQL in EC2 requires using either the Elastic Block Store (EBS) or having sufficient slaves to survive the failure of one or more EC2 virtual machines.
Unfortunately their pricing model is pay as you go… that is not going to work for databases, they will need to be up 24×7.
Are your queries going to wait 5 mins whilst an EC2 instance fires up?

EC2 is better used as peak demand or on demand computing, for 24×7 use a dedicated hosting service.
So name dropping EC2 is pure hype, running a database as a service would be cheaper run off dedicating hosting or dedicated hardware, plus the issues with impermanent storage disappear.

Have Fun

]]> By: Leto http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639754 Leto Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:53:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639754 I kicked the tires and, you are truely a lemon. I kicked the tires and, you are truely a lemon.

]]> By: ming http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639746 ming Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:47:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639746 Cloud computing/storage is way too premature an unstable. I predict startups that offer/rely (Amazon is not a startup) on Cloud computing will be out of business in 2 years. I say, lets revisit this cloud thing in 2015. Cloud computing/storage is way too premature an unstable.

I predict startups that offer/rely (Amazon is not a startup) on Cloud computing will be out of business in 2 years.

I say, lets revisit this cloud thing in 2015.

]]> By: Wow, what an asshat http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639739 Wow, what an asshat Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:41:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639739 Dude, I hope you are one hell of a coder because you're certainly not going to get by on your sterling personality. Oh, wait, I bet your an "entrepreneur," right? You've thrown off all the social mores associated with working for The Man because you're above all the sheep and you can speak what you really feel unlike the rest of the masses. Maybe the dude was a fucking marketing guy? I hear they still visit TC from time to time. I've also heard that they can occasionally land a job without knowing how to write a simple join statement. Dude, I hope you are one hell of a coder because you’re certainly not going to get by on your sterling personality. Oh, wait, I bet your an “entrepreneur,” right? You’ve thrown off all the social mores associated with working for The Man because you’re above all the sheep and you can speak what you really feel unlike the rest of the masses.

Maybe the dude was a fucking marketing guy? I hear they still visit TC from time to time. I’ve also heard that they can occasionally land a job without knowing how to write a simple join statement.

]]> By: Ycombinator Cruddy PR release + TC Coverage = Weak Ass Advertorial http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639738 Ycombinator Cruddy PR release + TC Coverage = Weak Ass Advertorial Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:41:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639738 And so, it has come to this. Ladies and gentlemen, if you were wondering whether TC is financially struggling, the answer is a gigantic YES! How do I know this? Because you are reading another crappy Ycombinator PR news release signifying absolutely nothing newsworthy whatsoever, yet covered by TC in a most shilling manner. Why are you reading this? Because Ycombinator is in all likelihood providing some sort of "remuneration" (money, goods or services, or most likely credits to Arrington) in exchange for the coverage. So incredibly small town. So obvious. So shortsighted. So ultimately Ycombinator. And so, it has come to this.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you were wondering whether TC is financially struggling, the answer is a gigantic YES!

How do I know this? Because you are reading another crappy Ycombinator PR news release signifying absolutely nothing newsworthy whatsoever, yet covered by TC in a most shilling manner.

Why are you reading this? Because Ycombinator is in all likelihood providing some sort of “remuneration” (money, goods or services, or most likely credits to Arrington) in exchange for the coverage.

So incredibly small town. So obvious. So shortsighted.

So ultimately Ycombinator.

]]> By: Daves http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639675 Daves Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:23:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639675 This is just a frontend to Mysql. Not impressed. This is just a frontend to Mysql. Not impressed.

]]> By: rbs http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639651 rbs Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:31:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639651 As a DBA I see this as something that I will have to end up supporting after the dev who got mgmt to buy off on it is long gone, and we realize that the company is paying for something that we could have done and supported in-house with our existing infrastructure. It's great idea for companies who don't have DBA's, and dev's are given Carte blanche to create servers in prod without concern for growth controls, though. As a DBA I see this as something that I will have to end up supporting after the dev who got mgmt to buy off on it is long gone, and we realize that the company is paying for something that we could have done and supported in-house with our existing infrastructure.

It’s great idea for companies who don’t have DBA’s, and dev’s are given Carte blanche to create servers in prod without concern for growth controls, though.

]]> By: brian http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639643 brian Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:05:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639643 Totally agree...my company was looking for something similar... although this does not seem to be new. Do they provide support for mobile DB services too?? http://www.livbit.com Totally agree…my company was looking for something similar… although this does not seem to be new.

Do they provide support for mobile DB services too??

http://www.livbit.com

]]> By: Rahsun http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/27/y-combinators-fathomdb-takes-the-hassle-out-of-managing-your-database/comment-page-1/#comment-2639605 Rahsun Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:43:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=46628#comment-2639605 I can see the benefits of this service. It seems to make sense. I think the highlights could be: 1) You don't have to worry about backups. Giving you peace of mind. That's also time you save not having to create a system or script to do it. 2) The thought of scaling your database is not a burden. You easily grow as you need to and they take care of that cruft associated. Unless you enjoy setting up clusters and such (then stay away). 3) Wherever or whoever you host your app with - you have access to your database. So if I don't like Linode you can switch to EC2 or whatever and your database and connections remain the same. I think the admin tool is a nice to have, but it doesn't sell the service. Also, I think I would like to see a bit more detail on HOW the backups and scaling are being done. Maybe have a version of this presentation for more savvy people. This includes explanation of scaling. The presentation mentioned scaling "up to 256 times bigger". That is a bit vague. 256 times bigger than what? I can see the benefits of this service. It seems to make sense. I think the highlights could be:

1) You don’t have to worry about backups. Giving you peace of mind. That’s also time you save not having to create a system or script to do it.

2) The thought of scaling your database is not a burden. You easily grow as you need to and they take care of that cruft associated. Unless you enjoy setting up clusters and such (then stay away).

3) Wherever or whoever you host your app with – you have access to your database. So if I don’t like Linode you can switch to EC2 or whatever and your database and connections remain the same.

I think the admin tool is a nice to have, but it doesn’t sell the service.

Also, I think I would like to see a bit more detail on HOW the backups and scaling are being done. Maybe have a version of this presentation for more savvy people.

This includes explanation of scaling. The presentation mentioned scaling “up to 256 times bigger”. That is a bit vague. 256 times bigger than what?

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