Comments on: Appcelerator Releases New Preview Of Open Source Developer Platform Titanium, Adds Bells And Whistles

By: Timber

Timber — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:55:23 +0000

The open source model struggles to compete with proprietary because our current system has many protections for the proprietary model. Thus, they allow closed source to thrive because they can enforce their ridiculous licenses on the consumer.

However the internet would not be what it is today if it were not for open source. FOSS has allowed users to have blogs (wordpress), CMS (drupal, Joomla), e-commerce (Magento, Ubercart, Virtuemart, osCommerce), CRMs (SugarCRM, vTiger), Project Tracking systems (Trac, RedMine), Forums (PHPBB, Punbb, SMF) and the ability to MODIFY these systems. It has allowed for more affordable web hosting through LAMP (all open source technologies).

If the Internet was all closed, it would suck. Only big companies would be able to participate, and the rest of us would be consumers unable to pay the entry fee.

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Appcelerator heads to the desktop « rand($thoughts); — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:50:19 +0000

[...] Culpepper from Appcelerator writes: “Titanium on the other hand is a desktop app platform that’s based on WebKit that [...]

By: Titanium, la alternativa Open Source para Adobe AIR « El Blog de Linkertux

Titanium, la alternativa Open Source para Adobe AIR « El Blog de Linkertux — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:45:55 +0000

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By: Steve Nordquist

Steve Nordquist — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:32:11 +0000

Oh sure, so now that’s -one- Open Source key web application, other than the corpus of W3C work and forked Adobe that isn’t key to the Darth Family’s Key Web Objectives…. No wait…the true key IETF/RFC standards are Free as in running-through-hospitals-with-live-firearms-is-Required. Add those beads to your socks, and then you can go out claiming an enforceable license.

I want to break Flash in the way Flash breaks clients; as in, problems-with-the-liquid-graphite-cooling broken. But this kind of runs things through a three-star banquet kitchen, and that’s OK. Go Appcelerator peeps!

By: ylluminate

ylluminate — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:28:57 +0000

So worst case scenario for Adobe is to open AIR… At least it seems to me.

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Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:12:50 +0000

[...] Appcelerator Releases New Preview Of Open Source Developer Platform Titanium, Adds Bells And Whistle… This morning, Mountain View-based startup Appcelerator is taking the wraps off its second Preview Release for Titanium, an open-source developer platform meant to compete with Adobe AIR and the likes for building rich internet, mobile and desktop applications. [...]

By: Marshall Culpepper

Marshall Culpepper — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:55:17 +0000

Any runtime you want — you’re able to bundle any javascript or 3rd party libraries with your app at your discretion. In our Developer app you can choose between a number of popular JS frameworks pre-baked like jQuery, Mootools, YUI, etc. Flash, Silverlight, and pretty much any “native” browser widgets have all been demoed in Titanium apps, so there’s no reason you couldn’t write your Titanium App in Flex, for example

By: Abhijeet Vijayakar

Abhijeet Vijayakar — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:18:47 +0000

For apps that don’t require the user to install anything, what runtime do they use? Is Flash output supported?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:17:44 +0000

None of those are “key” as in, there is a major dependency on them. All great apps, but they’re not the only ones in their respective categories.

Applications that are open source can be really good, but unfortunately the term is way overhyped and given too lofty of a status. Things need to just work and if a private company makes something great there is nothing wrong with that.

By: Marshall Culpepper

Marshall Culpepper — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:49:28 +0000

@Sekhar
Google gears has some similarities (and in fact, we made use of some Gears APIs in our first release), but the scope of the project is pretty limited when compared to Titanium.

Gears is mainly a browser plugin aimed at delivering some native functionality to Javascript — DB, Desktop, Workers, etc. You can basically consider Gears to be an early HTML5 implementation for browsers who aren’t up-to-snuff yet.

Titanium on the other hand is a desktop app platform that’s based on WebKit that delivers all of the APIs and services you would expect: Filesystem, Notifications, Menuing, Custom chromed windows, integration with popular languages (Javascript, Python, Ruby), Media, and others. On top of the APIs that we expose, Titanium is at it’s core a microkernel that exposes a pluggable module and binding system. This allows 3rd party developers to introduce their own functionality using C++, or any of the languages listed above. On top of that, we round out the platform with a development tool for interacting/testing/deploying your app, and we provide a redistributable runtime.

There is nothing wrong with Gears, but it’s scope is fairly limited to basic functionality in a “browser-only” world. Our approach breaks free of the browser, and uses open source and extensibility to hopefully provide a great web-tech based desktop platform.

Hope that helps =)

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KillerStartups.com - TitaniumApp.com - Desktop Apps Made Easy — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:45:49 +0000

TitaniumApp.com – Desktop Apps Made Easy…

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By: Sekhar Ravinutala

Sekhar Ravinutala — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:31:21 +0000

Looks similar to Google Gears, which is open source.

By: till

till — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:29:09 +0000

Firefox!

By: till

till — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:27:16 +0000

Please explain? License paranoia?

By: Original Sin

Original Sin — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:47:47 +0000

Anderson Mccutcheon, you’re trolling, right?

By: Ammar Mardawi

Ammar Mardawi — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:44:00 +0000

Developing cross platform desktop applications is not easy. The choices usually were C/C++, Java, and .NET.

C/C++ requires longer time but ends up with a neat app. .NET is not really cross-platform (mono for desktop will never work). And Java got many problems for desktop apps, starting with the GUI toolkits available, and ending with the most basic things.

I’m really excited about Adobe AIR as it is gaining momentum and even more excited to see other alternatives; specially open source ones.

Good luck for Appcelerator!

By: jeff haynie

jeff haynie — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:21:44 +0000

@Darren as robin said you don’t have to distribute requiring a pre-installed anything. in the way, nothing different than any normal app.

By: william

william — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:03:13 +0000

for real?, that’s deep….

By: Robin Wauters

Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:52:31 +0000

The way I understood it is that the developer can choose to develop something that requires the user to install something, or not.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:20:14 +0000

good article

By: Darren

Darren — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:53 +0000

This will fail… how are you supposed to get your customers to install the basic package to use it?

By: Trips

Trips — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:34:32 +0000

Definitely. See: TC et al.

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People Over Process » Links for February 24th through February 25th — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:01:08 +0000

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By: kripken

kripken — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:47:38 +0000

Apache, Firefox, MediaWiki (Wikipedia), lighttpd, etc. etc.

By: Sash

Sash — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:20:19 +0000

WordPress !