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	<title>Comments on: Google&#8217;s PowerMeter Project: For When The Web&#8217;s Data Is Not Enough</title>
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		<title>By: Power Meter Empowers Electricity Users &#124; SunSationalGreen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2695466</link>
		<dc:creator>Power Meter Empowers Electricity Users &#124; SunSationalGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google PowerMeter Homepage [+] Google&#8217;s PowerMeter: When Web Data is Not Enough by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2680094</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Day by day Google is Creating some Vast Innovative techniques, Thaks to Google.

http://www.piedaterredc.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day by day Google is Creating some Vast Innovative techniques, Thaks to Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajkumar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2648712</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajkumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a lot of Information from this site.

http://kkhobbies.blogspot.com/</description>
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		<title>By: Google begins infiltration of energy market: For good or for awesome? &#124; ThinkSketchDesign</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2641993</link>
		<dc:creator>Google begins infiltration of energy market: For good or for awesome? &#124; ThinkSketchDesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] surprised that in Tech Crunch&#8217;s article on the Google’s PowerMeter Project, they don&#8217;t speculate that this is a huge first step for Google to enter the energy market.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] surprised that in Tech Crunch&#8217;s article on the Google’s PowerMeter Project, they don&#8217;t speculate that this is a huge first step for Google to enter the energy market.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KTG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2624790</link>
		<dc:creator>KTG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how the economics and privacy issues all coordinate together.  I guess aggregating the statistics could be useful for society.  We figured out Al Gore&#039;s mansion used a lot of electricity.  Sounds like a privacy issue that will appearing on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justaskgemalto.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; security site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how the economics and privacy issues all coordinate together.  I guess aggregating the statistics could be useful for society.  We figured out Al Gore&#8217;s mansion used a lot of electricity.  Sounds like a privacy issue that will appearing on <a href="http://www.justaskgemalto.com/" rel="nofollow">This</a> security site.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Henshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2624093</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Henshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With PowerMeter, Google is validating the valuable role of energy monitoring in empowering end users with the information they need to take control of their personal energy consumption. I work with Fat Spaniel Technologies (www.fatspaniel.com), and we absolutely support Google’s stated principle that “open protocols and standards should serve as the cornerstone of smart grid projects” (from their blog). Last year we announced the industry’s first open energy monitoring solution – the Fat Spaniel Insight Platform™.  We believe that in order to provide users with a complete energy solution, it must be an open platform that can monitor all devices and systems and distill the data into usable information. As such, Fat Spaniel will extend its open, standardized interface to Google’s PowerMeter once it is publicly released.  We currently provide the monitoring technology for more than 2,000 renewable energy plants across 17 countries today, and we think that Google’s validation of the energy monitoring market will help spread the technology for adoption across all energy systems universally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With PowerMeter, Google is validating the valuable role of energy monitoring in empowering end users with the information they need to take control of their personal energy consumption. I work with Fat Spaniel Technologies (www.fatspaniel.com), and we absolutely support Google’s stated principle that “open protocols and standards should serve as the cornerstone of smart grid projects” (from their blog). Last year we announced the industry’s first open energy monitoring solution – the Fat Spaniel Insight Platform™.  We believe that in order to provide users with a complete energy solution, it must be an open platform that can monitor all devices and systems and distill the data into usable information. As such, Fat Spaniel will extend its open, standardized interface to Google’s PowerMeter once it is publicly released.  We currently provide the monitoring technology for more than 2,000 renewable energy plants across 17 countries today, and we think that Google’s validation of the energy monitoring market will help spread the technology for adoption across all energy systems universally.</p>
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		<title>By: Google’s PowerMeter Project: For When The Web’s Data Is Not Enough &#171; :: Will Scully-Power :: The Datarati :: Data, Analytics &#38; Optimisation in the World of Advertising!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2622903</link>
		<dc:creator>Google’s PowerMeter Project: For When The Web’s Data Is Not Enough &#171; :: Will Scully-Power :: The Datarati :: Data, Analytics &#38; Optimisation in the World of Advertising!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough...     No Comments so far  Leave a comment   RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI     Leave a comment Click here to cancel reply. Line and paragraph breaks automatic, e-mail address never displayed, HTML allowed: &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; title=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;abbr title=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;acronym title=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;b&gt; &lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;cite&gt; &lt;code&gt; &lt;del datetime=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;em&gt; &lt;i&gt; &lt;q cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;strike&gt; &lt;strong&gt; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Troast</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2622715</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Troast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really not much different than Google Analytics vs Omniture or Coremetrics. You&#039;d better offer something pretty darn powerful to compete against free. While lots is happening in smart metering (which is really about utilities gaining individual home control) and there are good devices like the TED available now, the user interfaces are generally weak. On this alone, Google can own the aggregation of  the data. The real issue is how long true smart metering will take to become ubiquitous. Some are saying a long long time. I wrote on my blog today about just how byzantine our utility is--someone still needs to drive here in a truck to read the meter. http://www.energycircle.com/blog/2009/02/11/google-powermetercoming-soon-electricity-monitoringhere-now/
Let&#039;s also remember that so far this entire discussion is about electricity only. The real key will be how PowerMeter, over time, integrates the other key energy inputs like natural gas, heating oil, propane and even renewables. 
Our team put together an educational video on the TED and the BlueLine monitors, and particularly the behavioral change that results from seeing energy use data in real time. We definitely support the notion of the kind of savings the Google testers are achieving:  http://www.energycircle.com/store/electricity-monitors#BuyersGuide</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really not much different than Google Analytics vs Omniture or Coremetrics. You&#8217;d better offer something pretty darn powerful to compete against free. While lots is happening in smart metering (which is really about utilities gaining individual home control) and there are good devices like the TED available now, the user interfaces are generally weak. On this alone, Google can own the aggregation of  the data. The real issue is how long true smart metering will take to become ubiquitous. Some are saying a long long time. I wrote on my blog today about just how byzantine our utility is&#8211;someone still needs to drive here in a truck to read the meter. <a href="http://www.energycircle.com/blog/2009/02/11/google-powermetercoming-soon-electricity-monitoringhere-now/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.energycircle.com/blog/2009/02/11/google-powermetercoming-soon-electricity-monitoringhere-now/'>http://www.ener...toringhere-now/</a><br />
Let&#8217;s also remember that so far this entire discussion is about electricity only. The real key will be how PowerMeter, over time, integrates the other key energy inputs like natural gas, heating oil, propane and even renewables.<br />
Our team put together an educational video on the TED and the BlueLine monitors, and particularly the behavioral change that results from seeing energy use data in real time. We definitely support the notion of the kind of savings the Google testers are achieving:  <a href="http://www.energycircle.com/store/electricity-monitors#BuyersGuide" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.energycircle.com/store/electricity-monitors#BuyersGuide'>http://www.ener...ors#BuyersGuide</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie Bahl</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2622283</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie Bahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a momentum booster. Google’s entrance into the smart grid conversation is great news all around, just as President Obama is turning up the volume on its importance as well. No one company or entity can tackle all the challenges around building the smart grid and populating it with smart meters. Google’s entrance into the conversation is not only a great complementary effort in providing consumers the tools they need to take charge of their energy consumption; it validates the issue. When Google speaks, people listen.
 
It’s a piece of a larger platform approach—one that Tendril’s building out—that adds the necessary elements of consumer and utility control, in addition to device-level information, that enables a real-time dialogue between consumers and their energy provider. It’s great to see quickening momentum among vendors, utilities and consumers as we drive 21st century energy efficiency on the road to energy independence.
 
Information is the key to change. Having Google throw their weight to drive real change is a huge win for the industry, for Tendril and for consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a momentum booster. Google’s entrance into the smart grid conversation is great news all around, just as President Obama is turning up the volume on its importance as well. No one company or entity can tackle all the challenges around building the smart grid and populating it with smart meters. Google’s entrance into the conversation is not only a great complementary effort in providing consumers the tools they need to take charge of their energy consumption; it validates the issue. When Google speaks, people listen.</p>
<p>It’s a piece of a larger platform approach—one that Tendril’s building out—that adds the necessary elements of consumer and utility control, in addition to device-level information, that enables a real-time dialogue between consumers and their energy provider. It’s great to see quickening momentum among vendors, utilities and consumers as we drive 21st century energy efficiency on the road to energy independence.</p>
<p>Information is the key to change. Having Google throw their weight to drive real change is a huge win for the industry, for Tendril and for consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Eau Claire Wisconsin Business &#38; Technology News</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2622105</link>
		<dc:creator>Eau Claire Wisconsin Business &#38; Technology News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google Does it Again! PowerMeter Smart Grid...&lt;/strong&gt;

There has been a lot of talk lately about Smart Grids and what they can do for us and the planet. Never heard of it? Just click on the link to learn more. 
The goal is to reduce the consumption of electricity which is good for everyone and at the same ...</description>
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<p>There has been a lot of talk lately about Smart Grids and what they can do for us and the planet. Never heard of it? Just click on the link to learn more.<br />
The goal is to reduce the consumption of electricity which is good for everyone and at the same &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Mathieson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621926</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Mathieson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also an awesome device called &quot;Ewgeco&quot; currently in private beta.  It not only monitors your electricity, but also water &amp; gas usage.  Check it out: http://www.ewgeco.com/

(Disclaimer: I may be biased; we write the web app that interacts with the hardware device and presents information in the same way as Google&#039;s PowerMeter.  For electricity, water *and* gas usage.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also an awesome device called &#8220;Ewgeco&#8221; currently in private beta.  It not only monitors your electricity, but also water &amp; gas usage.  Check it out: <a href="http://www.ewgeco.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.ewgeco.com/'>http://www.ewgeco.com/</a></p>
<p>(Disclaimer: I may be biased; we write the web app that interacts with the hardware device and presents information in the same way as Google&#8217;s PowerMeter.  For electricity, water *and* gas usage.)</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1254708141">Taehoon Kim</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621870</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1254708141">Taehoon Kim</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a cool post</description>
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		<title>By: B. Ackles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621806</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Ackles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*for-profit philanthropic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*for-profit philanthropic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: B. Ackles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621789</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Ackles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone who want&#039;s to know why Google.org is a philanthropic arm. Please read the following...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/technology/14google.html

I hope Google puts pressure on utility companies to reinvent themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone who want&#8217;s to know why Google.org is a philanthropic arm. Please read the following&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/technology/14google.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/technology/14google.html'>http://www.nyti...y/14google.html</a></p>
<p>I hope Google puts pressure on utility companies to reinvent themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Ackles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621783</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Ackles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out &quot;The Wattson&quot; by DIY Kyoto. 
http://www.diykyoto.com/uk/wattson/about

There&#039;s a related article on this subject by Wired.
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-08/st_thompson

The world thanks you for your installation...;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out &#8220;The Wattson&#8221; by DIY Kyoto.<br />
<a href="http://www.diykyoto.com/uk/wattson/about" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.diykyoto.com/uk/wattson/about'>http://www.diyk...k/wattson/about</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a related article on this subject by Wired.<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-08/st_thompson" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-08/st_thompson'>http://www.wire...-08/st_thompson</a></p>
<p>The world thanks you for your installation&#8230;;)</p>
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		<title>By: Green Building : Jetson Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Building : Jetson Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google PowerMeter Aims to Inform Energy Users...&lt;/strong&gt;

Google is testing a prototype product that they&#039;ve dubbed the PowerMeter, which is designed to convey energy use information to energy users. PowerMeter is premised on the famous phrase by......</description>
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<p>Google is testing a prototype product that they&#8217;ve dubbed the PowerMeter, which is designed to convey energy use information to energy users. PowerMeter is premised on the famous phrase by&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, 

Kind of difficult to out sell &quot;free&quot;.  Anyway, I&#039;m over my irritation with Google.  Here&#039;s some info that might be of interest.  Its very difficult for utilities to do real-time meter reading so that they can monitor your meters, much less things in your house.  They simply can&#039;t cover their entire territories with IP networks and the other technologies like power line carrier and peer-to-peer narrowband wireless simply don&#039;t cut it.  In fact, the most popular automated meter reading system is drive-by and it isn&#039;t even that inexpensive.  Utilities don&#039;t really want to rely on anyone else&#039;s network either.  My company has had success with residential for very small municipal utilities that put in their own wireless networks -- and when we meter electric, gas, water -- and control air conditioning and water heaters during peak periods. Then it easily pays for itself - 1 city had a 1 year ROI and 0 unhappy customers.  Meter reading is too cheap for it to provide the needed ROI to install the equipment.  However, it saves utilities a bundle if energy usage is curtailed when their cost of energy is high.  

Google&#039;s solution doesn&#039;t include for free the hard part - getting the data from the meter to their system, its more of an API that they hope utilities will choose or be forced to use to share the user&#039;s usage so they can present it.  I suppose some home owners will buy a device that sends data directly to Google.

I wouldn&#039;t discount this information being valuable to advertisers -- the window retrofit and appliance markets are very big and with your load profile - I could figure out if you needed new windows, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, </p>
<p>Kind of difficult to out sell &#8220;free&#8221;.  Anyway, I&#8217;m over my irritation with Google.  Here&#8217;s some info that might be of interest.  Its very difficult for utilities to do real-time meter reading so that they can monitor your meters, much less things in your house.  They simply can&#8217;t cover their entire territories with IP networks and the other technologies like power line carrier and peer-to-peer narrowband wireless simply don&#8217;t cut it.  In fact, the most popular automated meter reading system is drive-by and it isn&#8217;t even that inexpensive.  Utilities don&#8217;t really want to rely on anyone else&#8217;s network either.  My company has had success with residential for very small municipal utilities that put in their own wireless networks &#8212; and when we meter electric, gas, water &#8212; and control air conditioning and water heaters during peak periods. Then it easily pays for itself &#8211; 1 city had a 1 year ROI and 0 unhappy customers.  Meter reading is too cheap for it to provide the needed ROI to install the equipment.  However, it saves utilities a bundle if energy usage is curtailed when their cost of energy is high.  </p>
<p>Google&#8217;s solution doesn&#8217;t include for free the hard part &#8211; getting the data from the meter to their system, its more of an API that they hope utilities will choose or be forced to use to share the user&#8217;s usage so they can present it.  I suppose some home owners will buy a device that sends data directly to Google.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t discount this information being valuable to advertisers &#8212; the window retrofit and appliance markets are very big and with your load profile &#8211; I could figure out if you needed new windows, etc.</p>
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		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621647</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am working on a startup that does just this minus the in home units.  This is simply Google trying to score some of the funds that come out the bailout.  

I am sure this is to just help their lobbyists sell the idea to get the funds as in home units are not cost effective and several established utility related companies have been working on this for years. The only way is if Google will buy these companies, thus maybe the ability to get Government funds for this. 

Join the club Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am working on a startup that does just this minus the in home units.  This is simply Google trying to score some of the funds that come out the bailout.  </p>
<p>I am sure this is to just help their lobbyists sell the idea to get the funds as in home units are not cost effective and several established utility related companies have been working on this for years. The only way is if Google will buy these companies, thus maybe the ability to get Government funds for this. </p>
<p>Join the club Google.</p>
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		<title>By: A few quick links&#8230; &#124; Aid Worker Daily</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621612</link>
		<dc:creator>A few quick links&#8230; &#124; Aid Worker Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also from Techcrunch: You will soon be able to monitor your home energy usage through Google&#8217;s PowerMeter Project. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also from Techcrunch: You will soon be able to monitor your home energy usage through Google&#8217;s PowerMeter Project. [...]</p>
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		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621563</link>
		<dc:creator>ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA &#171; Daily Marauder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] website, promotes the adoption of smart electricity meters in homes across the world. (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] website, promotes the adoption of smart electricity meters in homes across the world. (<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough'>http://www.tech...a-is-not-enough</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Googleの電力メータープロジェクト：ネット上に存在しないデータを獲得するためのGoogle的手法</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621531</link>
		<dc:creator>Googleの電力メータープロジェクト：ネット上に存在しないデータを獲得するためのGoogle的手法</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621518</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another similar product is The Energy Detective with the Footprints software.

http://www.theenergydetective.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another similar product is The Energy Detective with the Footprints software.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theenergydetective.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.theenergydetective.com'>http://www.thee...gydetective.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: ThinkSketch</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThinkSketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As solar technology steadily improves, and as stimulus money gets channeled into the green power industry, soon a significant percentage of power will come from individuals and small power farms.  Hard to imagine now?  Sound greenwashed?  Solar panels already pay for themselves after just a few years.  In ten years crowdsourced power will be a completely new market and Google (as usual) is putting themselves in the position to be the manager of that market.  This is big stuff.
More: http://thinksketch.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/google-begins-infiltration-of-energy-market-for-good-or-for-awesome/
-ThinkSketch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As solar technology steadily improves, and as stimulus money gets channeled into the green power industry, soon a significant percentage of power will come from individuals and small power farms.  Hard to imagine now?  Sound greenwashed?  Solar panels already pay for themselves after just a few years.  In ten years crowdsourced power will be a completely new market and Google (as usual) is putting themselves in the position to be the manager of that market.  This is big stuff.<br />
More: <a href="http://thinksketch.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/google-begins-infiltration-of-energy-market-for-good-or-for-awesome/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://thinksketch.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/google-begins-infiltration-of-energy-market-for-good-or-for-awesome/'>http://thinkske...or-for-awesome/</a><br />
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL stop it! You are sooo wrong... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL stop it! You are sooo wrong&#8230; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Google begins infiltration of energy market: For good or for awesome? &#171; ThinkSketch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/10/googles-powermeter-project-for-when-the-webs-data-is-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-2621511</link>
		<dc:creator>Google begins infiltration of energy market: For good or for awesome? &#171; ThinkSketch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] surprised that in Tech Crunch&#8217;s article on the Google’s PowerMeter Project, they don&#8217;t speculate that this is a huge first step for Google to enter the energy market.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] surprised that in Tech Crunch&#8217;s article on the Google’s PowerMeter Project, they don&#8217;t speculate that this is a huge first step for Google to enter the energy market.  [...]</p>
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