Comments on: As IM Finally Begins To Open Up, Yahoo And Microsoft Cling To The Stone Age http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:02:46 -0800 hourly 1 By: GNC-2009-02-10 #450 Back In Honolulu | Geek News Central http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2702275 GNC-2009-02-10 #450 Back In Honolulu | Geek News Central Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:00:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2702275 [...] Email Address Services New York Magazine talks to Twitter Firefox no Bundling with Windows please New IM Wars? Online Book-Keeping TweetDeck and AlertThingy Head to Head STS 119 delayed More Worm Attacks 3 Apps [...] [...] Email Address Services New York Magazine talks to Twitter Firefox no Bundling with Windows please New IM Wars? Online Book-Keeping TweetDeck and AlertThingy Head to Head STS 119 delayed More Worm Attacks 3 Apps [...]

]]> By: Pourquoi Facebook est devenu votre logiciel de chat par défaut, et pourquoi MSN et Yahoo sont devenus ses principaux concurrents « Toujours Connecté http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2678234 Pourquoi Facebook est devenu votre logiciel de chat par défaut, et pourquoi MSN et Yahoo sont devenus ses principaux concurrents « Toujours Connecté Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:23:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2678234 [...] fait Imo.im, de chatter avec des personnes inscrites sur des logiciels de messagerie concurrents. Un article de Techcrunch montre d’ailleurs comment Microsoft et Yahoo freinent pour le moment l’intégration de [...] [...] fait Imo.im, de chatter avec des personnes inscrites sur des logiciels de messagerie concurrents. Un article de Techcrunch montre d’ailleurs comment Microsoft et Yahoo freinent pour le moment l’intégration de [...]

]]> By: Little Girl http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2640488 Little Girl Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:59:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2640488 Great picture! Great picture!

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Open Instant Messaging may lead to new revolution in filesharing http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2624109 P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Open Instant Messaging may lead to new revolution in filesharing Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:35:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2624109 [...] though they are still holdouts, major progress is being made in this area, as reported by Jason Kincaid in Techcrunch, who also gives a short history of the [...] [...] though they are still holdouts, major progress is being made in this area, as reported by Jason Kincaid in Techcrunch, who also gives a short history of the [...]

]]> By: Cassandra http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2623625 Cassandra Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:20:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2623625 trillian? trillian?

]]> By: Jonathan Wong http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2623126 Jonathan Wong Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:16:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2623126 Windows Live messenger makes money out of advertising and it also is the largest IM network in the world with around 500m active users. What incentive does it have to open up and allow sanctioned third party access to their network of users? Will Meebo be sharing advertising revenue with Microsoft or Yahoo? Windows Live messenger makes money out of advertising and it also is the largest IM network in the world with around 500m active users.

What incentive does it have to open up and allow sanctioned third party access to their network of users? Will Meebo be sharing advertising revenue with Microsoft or Yahoo?

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="582167477">Zafarali Ahmed</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621871 Zafarali Ahmed Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:07:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621871 in the future ;) in the future ;)

]]> By: scanner http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621766 scanner Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:26:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621766 Hehehe, is that Steve Ballmer with long hair in the caveman picture? Hehehe, is that Steve Ballmer with long hair in the caveman picture?

]]> By: enetbaron http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621601 enetbaron Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:26:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621601 Check out EnetBaron.com Check out EnetBaron.com Check out EnetBaron.com

Check out EnetBaron.com

]]> By: IM makes money http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621532 IM makes money Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:49:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621532 MSN and Yahoo make tons of money on IM, which is exacty why they don't open up since it would cannibalize their revenue MSN and Yahoo make tons of money on IM, which is exacty why they don’t open up since it would cannibalize their revenue

]]> By: Lost Guy http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621376 Lost Guy Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:06:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621376 i fail to see how it will make them more money. i fail to see how it will make them more money.

]]> By: internetv http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621284 internetv Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:41:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621284 i think IM is better for the lazy ones (just like me :p) i think IM is better for the lazy ones (just like me :p)

]]> By: Ray Cromwell http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621263 Ray Cromwell Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:17:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621263 Opening up to me means adopting a standard protocol, like IETF XMPP, not making bilateral deals to connect proprietary APIs. Messaging on the web won't be "open" until it is federated just like email, and to some extent, IRC, and the companies involved give up control of the protocol to a public standards body. Opening up to me means adopting a standard protocol, like IETF XMPP, not making bilateral deals to connect proprietary APIs.

Messaging on the web won’t be “open” until it is federated just like email, and to some extent, IRC, and the companies involved give up control of the protocol to a public standards body.

]]> By: GuiasLocal.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621206 GuiasLocal.com Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:34:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621206 I was reading this article on Facebook and Meebo, and I was amused. Does anyone see what I see in regards to this Facebook innovation with Meebo. It is AOL from the 90's, without charging customers. In the 80's a game called Habitat which AOL purchased played an influential impact on today's virtual communities. It is funny as Facebook innovates they are going back to where it all started with AOL. I like Facebook, they are cool, although I'm waiting for the day when I log in it will say " Welcome" "You've Got Facebook". My opinion on Yahoo and MSN, they are more focused on mobile platform innovation. There is more money in this sector. I was reading this article on Facebook and Meebo, and I was amused. Does anyone see what I see in regards to this Facebook innovation with Meebo. It is AOL from the 90’s, without charging customers. In the 80’s a game called Habitat which AOL purchased played an influential impact on today’s virtual communities. It is funny as Facebook innovates they are going back to where it all started with AOL. I like Facebook, they are cool, although I’m waiting for the day when I log in it will say ” Welcome” “You’ve Got Facebook”. My opinion on Yahoo and MSN, they are more focused on mobile platform innovation. There is more money in this sector.

]]> By: Jared http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621201 Jared Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:29:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621201 Consolidating/centralizing IM is so long overdue. Consolidating/centralizing IM is so long overdue.

]]> By: Nano http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621101 Nano Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:35:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621101 Jabber is decentralised just like e-mail. ISPs, companies and even individual users can have their own jabber servers and there won't be any big centralised networks anymore. No 'jokers' who put stuff like 'all your private communication belogs to us and we're free to use it as we please'. Old IM is dead. Jabber is decentralised just like e-mail. ISPs, companies and even individual users can have their own jabber servers and there won’t be any big centralised networks anymore. No ‘jokers’ who put stuff like ‘all your private communication belogs to us and we’re free to use it as we please’.
Old IM is dead.

]]> By: jamEs - modsuperstar.ca http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621087 jamEs - modsuperstar.ca Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:12:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621087 AIM and Skype are virtually non existent in Canada. It's pretty much MSN and GTalk here. AIM and Skype are virtually non existent in Canada. It’s pretty much MSN and GTalk here.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621012 Sarah Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:35:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621012 At least I am on IM all the time. Yahoo, MSN but lately I am trying Digsby to integrate everything like Yahoo, MSN, Gmail, FB and Twitter all in one application. At least I am on IM all the time. Yahoo, MSN but lately I am trying Digsby to integrate everything like Yahoo, MSN, Gmail, FB and Twitter all in one application.

]]> By: AMD Talk » As IM Finally Begins To Open Up, Yahoo And Microsoft Cling To The … http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621009 AMD Talk » As IM Finally Begins To Open Up, Yahoo And Microsoft Cling To The … Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:31:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621009 [...] Joseph Tartakoff wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptLast week Meebo and Facebook teamed to launch the first integration of Facebook Connect + Chat, allowing Meebo users to chat with their … [...] [...] Joseph Tartakoff wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptLast week Meebo and Facebook teamed to launch the first integration of Facebook Connect + Chat, allowing Meebo users to chat with their … [...]

]]> By: Jason Beaner http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621008 Jason Beaner Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:30:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621008 Hey, some people just like the Stone age, thats jsut the way it is dude. RT www.privacy-center.vze.com Hey, some people just like the Stone age, thats jsut the way it is dude.

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]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="585714687">Hugh Isaacs II</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2621007 Hugh Isaacs II Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:30:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2621007 The issue with this argument is that you're only talking 3rd party client support which isn't really opening up. Microsoft is adding Jabber support to Windows Live Messenger in the future, which means Yahoo will also be getting Jabber support, and AOL is adding Jabber support to AIM. Facebook IM already runs on Jabber and will support federation in the future. and Google Talk is also running Jabber with federation. Federation is what makes IM open, not 3rd party client support that essentially just keeps us in the stone age only being able to IM people on the same network. The issue with this argument is that you’re only talking 3rd party client support which isn’t really opening up.

Microsoft is adding Jabber support to Windows Live Messenger in the future, which means Yahoo will also be getting Jabber support, and AOL is adding Jabber support to AIM.

Facebook IM already runs on Jabber and will support federation in the future.

and Google Talk is also running Jabber with federation.

Federation is what makes IM open, not 3rd party client support that essentially just keeps us in the stone age only being able to IM people on the same network.

]]> By: riffic http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2620930 riffic Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:49:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2620930 I do not agree this is too little too late. This is the perfect opportunity for these networks to federate, with the XMPP protocol, and utilize their existing subscriber base while extending their user's capability to communicate with users on other networks. Google seems to be leading the way on this point. I do not agree this is too little too late. This is the perfect opportunity for these networks to federate, with the XMPP protocol, and utilize their existing subscriber base while extending their user’s capability to communicate with users on other networks. Google seems to be leading the way on this point.

]]> By: smartbabesaresexy http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2620883 smartbabesaresexy Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:02:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2620883 The problem is that unlike SMS, IM doesn't really make money for any of the providers. They use it as a way to increase stickiness. So there is very little economic incentive for them to open up. Anjali Sen The problem is that unlike SMS, IM doesn’t really make money for any of the providers. They use it as a way to increase stickiness. So there is very little economic incentive for them to open up.

Anjali Sen

]]> By: Charles Ames http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2620868 Charles Ames Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:29:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2620868 Opening up SMS was smart because carriers charge per message -- everybody wins. But what's the incentive for free chat networks to open up? Seriously, why? Opening up SMS was smart because carriers charge per message — everybody wins. But what’s the incentive for free chat networks to open up? Seriously, why?

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="697705028">fb697705028</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/09/as-im-finally-begins-to-open-up-yahoo-and-microsoft-cling-to-the-stone-age/comment-page-1/#comment-2620862 fb697705028 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:06:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=42524#comment-2620862 From what I observe I used to have loads of people logged in on MSN and Yahoo Messenger. Now a lot of them seem to have given up with MSN and use Facebook chat instead. I am not a big fan of Facebook chat for long conversations but it is great for a quick chat. From what I observe I used to have loads of people logged in on MSN and Yahoo Messenger. Now a lot of them seem to have given up with MSN and use Facebook chat instead. I am not a big fan of Facebook chat for long conversations but it is great for a quick chat.

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