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		<title>By: mujde ar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 02:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: otel</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks you..</description>
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		<description>Thank You..</description>
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		<title>By: KOPN Tech Radio &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News Bytes for 2/9/2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aviary releases Raven, a web-based vector drawing tool [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raven looks insanely cool, BUT... I don&#039;t think it was the *first* vector graphics editor for the web. I&#039;d like to think that DoInk.com can lay claim to that... we&#039;ve been in a public alpha for a number of months now (flying under the radar) and have a decidedly different audience than Aviary. Still, our editor is a fairly robust vector graphics editor that compiles out to SWF!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven looks insanely cool, BUT&#8230; I don&#8217;t think it was the *first* vector graphics editor for the web. I&#8217;d like to think that DoInk.com can lay claim to that&#8230; we&#8217;ve been in a public alpha for a number of months now (flying under the radar) and have a decidedly different audience than Aviary. Still, our editor is a fairly robust vector graphics editor that compiles out to SWF!</p>
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		<title>By: büro mobilyaları</title>
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		<dc:creator>büro mobilyaları</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks you..</description>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wouldn&#039;t of course.

But how many people have $500 (or whatever) for illustrator or $2000 for the whole CS suite?

You should heed your own advice and think it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wouldn&#8217;t of course.</p>
<p>But how many people have $500 (or whatever) for illustrator or $2000 for the whole CS suite?</p>
<p>You should heed your own advice and think it through.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the contribution Captain Obvious.</description>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/06/aviary-encroaches-on-adobe-illustrator-with-raven-the-first-vector-graphics-editor-for-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2620025</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when/if you do become a threat, Adobe will likely just buy you up. ;-)

How ironic would that be?

The suite is awesome BTW keep up the great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when/if you do become a threat, Adobe will likely just buy you up. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How ironic would that be?</p>
<p>The suite is awesome BTW keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: dsfsddsdf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Initially I didn&#039;t think they could do it, I went as far as to call the 3d editor vaporware. But I was wrong, these guys rock. They have hired some of the flash guys around and should be considered serious contenders in this space. Best of luck to to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initially I didn&#8217;t think they could do it, I went as far as to call the 3d editor vaporware. But I was wrong, these guys rock. They have hired some of the flash guys around and should be considered serious contenders in this space. Best of luck to to them.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you use Aviary if you have access to Illustrator? 

Think before you post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you use Aviary if you have access to Illustrator? </p>
<p>Think before you post.</p>
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		<title>By: Aviary Releases Vector Drawing Application &#124; Republic of Code</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aviary Releases Vector Drawing Application &#124; Republic of Code</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 06:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://tinyurl.com/ahzvtb


I use Inkscape (free, cross-platform, and open source) for working with vector graphics.

Doing bitmap-to-vector tracing *well* is a hard problem. I use Vector Magic to do that (and that’s all it does). It has both a web version and a desktop version.</description>
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<p>I use Inkscape (free, cross-platform, and open source) for working with vector graphics.</p>
<p>Doing bitmap-to-vector tracing *well* is a hard problem. I use Vector Magic to do that (and that’s all it does). It has both a web version and a desktop version.</p>
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		<title>By: Occidentalism 2007 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is it time to forget Adobe Illustrator and go with Raven?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occidentalism 2007 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is it time to forget Adobe Illustrator and go with Raven?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 04:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kindle 2.0 + Kindle Top News Trends &#171; Amazon Kindle, Books, Kindle 2.0 - Amazon Kindle Review</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Amazon set to unveil new Kindle at Feb 9 Conference? 401 News articles - This definitely qualified as news and spread quickly and far. My experience was that it had spread pretty wide within the first 24 hours. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Amazon set to unveil new Kindle at Feb 9 Conference? 401 News articles &#8211; This definitely qualified as news and spread quickly and far. My experience was that it had spread pretty wide within the first 24 hours. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OnWebDev</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, amazing! I was blown away with Pixlr, the Photoshop look-a-like online image editor, but this is much more complex. An online vector editor? Great work Aviary team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, amazing! I was blown away with Pixlr, the Photoshop look-a-like online image editor, but this is much more complex. An online vector editor? Great work Aviary team!</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder why adobe wouldn&#039;t consider acquiring Aviary and rebranding their efforts as online counterparts to the Creative Suite.  would make strategic and business sense for both companies IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder why adobe wouldn&#8217;t consider acquiring Aviary and rebranding their efforts as online counterparts to the Creative Suite.  would make strategic and business sense for both companies IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Muchnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Muchnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony isn&#039;t lost on us (and I&#039;m sure Adobe).

However, if you really think about it, what we do actually promotes the capabilities of Flash every time someone uses our apps and also, anyone we train in how to use our editors will ultimately become a ripe candidate to move on to more professional tools.

Adobe certainly won&#039;t be losing existing customers who are willing to pay for desktop applications. If anything they might be gaining more customers who have been trained online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony isn&#8217;t lost on us (and I&#8217;m sure Adobe).</p>
<p>However, if you really think about it, what we do actually promotes the capabilities of Flash every time someone uses our apps and also, anyone we train in how to use our editors will ultimately become a ripe candidate to move on to more professional tools.</p>
<p>Adobe certainly won&#8217;t be losing existing customers who are willing to pay for desktop applications. If anything they might be gaining more customers who have been trained online.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Muchnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Muchnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not intentional - we&#039;ll be expanding the shortcuts soon. We try to keep them consistent with Adobe as this will help train people to move between programs with little problem (which is beneficial not just to the end user, but to Adobe and us as well, as it means that a user can upgrade to Illustrator or perform a quick operation online without needing to relearn behavior).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not intentional &#8211; we&#8217;ll be expanding the shortcuts soon. We try to keep them consistent with Adobe as this will help train people to move between programs with little problem (which is beneficial not just to the end user, but to Adobe and us as well, as it means that a user can upgrade to Illustrator or perform a quick operation online without needing to relearn behavior).</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Muchnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Muchnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi whoopie,

The target audience are all amateur designers (people who would want to try out design) but do not have access or the money to try out professional design tools.

There are 15x the number of hobbyist designers than there are professional designers.

It&#039;s our company mission to make creation accessible to everyone and we&#039;d rather start with the non-professional population where we see plenty of market opportunity.

Our decision to develop web apps instead of installable desktop apps is a function of our mission to be accessible: We want to remove all barriers to creation. If there is nothing to install for an end-user, they are so much more likely to begin creating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi whoopie,</p>
<p>The target audience are all amateur designers (people who would want to try out design) but do not have access or the money to try out professional design tools.</p>
<p>There are 15x the number of hobbyist designers than there are professional designers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s our company mission to make creation accessible to everyone and we&#8217;d rather start with the non-professional population where we see plenty of market opportunity.</p>
<p>Our decision to develop web apps instead of installable desktop apps is a function of our mission to be accessible: We want to remove all barriers to creation. If there is nothing to install for an end-user, they are so much more likely to begin creating.</p>
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