Comments on: Box.net Hones In On Businesses With New Social Features http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:32:27 -0800 hourly 1 By: diigo test 1 « Rap Binder: Hip Hop Crime Files http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2630313 diigo test 1 « Rap Binder: Hip Hop Crime Files Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:56:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2630313 [...] Box.net Hones In On Businesses With New Social Features [...] [...] Box.net Hones In On Businesses With New Social Features [...]

]]> By: Rob http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2618770 Rob Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:19:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2618770 @Adrian ... lol, yeah because that NEVER happens to internal organizations, does it? you fool @Adrian … lol, yeah because that NEVER happens to internal organizations, does it? you fool

]]> By: Foo@foo http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2618090 Foo@foo Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:59:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2618090 I'm not a competitor I'm a customer. This space is a non space. It's a joke. And btw setting collaborative work environments is way overrated. They are rare. And I am not paying monthly for the priveledge of maybe sometime needing it. Box has the wrong brand. We don't want commodity boxes. We want collaboration and intelogent organization and management tools. There is no such projct mgt and storage and messaging integration product out there. Give me outlook + ms project + sharepoint in a "box" then I'll bite. Until then this stuff is crap. More tired vc web 1.0 garbage. I hope the coming shakeout takes down everyone one of these idiotic capital inefficient business model du jour ore revenue "companies" run by infants with zero operating skill and boarded by flashy web 1.0 vc wannabes. I’m not a competitor I’m a customer. This space is a non space. It’s a joke.

And btw setting collaborative work environments is way overrated. They are rare. And I am not paying monthly for the priveledge of maybe sometime needing it.

Box has the wrong brand. We don’t want commodity boxes. We want collaboration and intelogent organization and management tools.

There is no such projct mgt and storage and messaging integration product out there. Give me outlook + ms project + sharepoint in a “box” then I’ll bite. Until then this stuff is crap.

More tired vc web 1.0 garbage. I hope the coming shakeout takes down everyone one of these idiotic capital inefficient business model du jour ore revenue “companies” run by infants with zero operating skill and boarded by flashy web 1.0 vc wannabes.

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1218568">fb1218568</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617591 fb1218568 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:22:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617591 I'd have to recommend Dropbox. I've been using dropbox at socialmedia for the past three months or so and it's been great. It integrates seamlessly with the file system on my mac. It's one of the few products out there that just works. Install and go. I’d have to recommend Dropbox.

I’ve been using dropbox at socialmedia for the past three months or so and it’s been great. It integrates seamlessly with the file system on my mac.

It’s one of the few products out there that just works. Install and go.

]]> By: Adrian Eden http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617403 Adrian Eden Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:19:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617403 No disrespect to any of the parties involved with Box.net or any of the Business's that use their service, but do you really want all of your very private business communications, spreadsheets, and data on a third party file hosting service? A lot of data could go missing or end up in the wrong hands. Just my 2 cents, and I wish you all the best! No disrespect to any of the parties involved with Box.net or any of the Business’s that use their service, but do you really want all of your very private business communications, spreadsheets, and data on a third party file hosting service?

A lot of data could go missing or end up in the wrong hands.

Just my 2 cents, and I wish you all the best!

]]> By: im a box competitor http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617384 im a box competitor Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:05:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617384 Its sad how box competitors have to anonymously bash the product, and without much substance either. If you have a legitimate criticism, say it publicly and associate yourself with it, or at least have a better product to compete with. Its sad how box competitors have to anonymously bash the product, and without much substance either.

If you have a legitimate criticism, say it publicly and associate yourself with it, or at least have a better product to compete with.

]]> By: Palou Alou http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617370 Palou Alou Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:53:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617370 Just use DROP.IO ... they already have all of these bases covered plus it's about 100 times easier to use. Box.net is so painful to use and look at it make me wish I was blinded by a shell in World War I ala 'Johnny Got His Gun' (my company signed up for an account, great idea guys). Online collaboration isn't hard to come by and it certainly shouldn't be as expensive as box.net. Other companies are doing it better, smarter and cheaper (ahem... drop.io...) Anyway, once Gdrive comes along, box.net and yousendit are gone, instantly. It's the same with all of these companies that are about storage and not sharing. The question is always, "Why can't Google come along, do exactly what you're doing and sink your business?" Box.net, if you're listening, you should start thinking up a good answer because those low thuds you hear from over the hill are Google's lumbering footsteps. It's not '05 anymore. Just use DROP.IO … they already have all of these bases covered plus it’s about 100 times easier to use. Box.net is so painful to use and look at it make me wish I was blinded by a shell in World War I ala ‘Johnny Got His Gun’ (my company signed up for an account, great idea guys).

Online collaboration isn’t hard to come by and it certainly shouldn’t be as expensive as box.net. Other companies are doing it better, smarter and cheaper (ahem… drop.io…)

Anyway, once Gdrive comes along, box.net and yousendit are gone, instantly. It’s the same with all of these companies that are about storage and not sharing. The question is always, “Why can’t Google come along, do exactly what you’re doing and sink your business?” Box.net, if you’re listening, you should start thinking up a good answer because those low thuds you hear from over the hill are Google’s lumbering footsteps. It’s not ‘05 anymore.

]]> By: Mike http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617358 Mike Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:38:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617358 drop.io? (www.drop.io) drop.io? (www.drop.io)

]]> By: Joe Jones http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617332 Joe Jones Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:01:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617332 Too expensive. I'm unsure what it does and what value it provides for $15/mo/user. Too expensive. I’m unsure what it does and what value it provides for $15/mo/user.

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617294 Andy Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:10:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617294 I help set up tech and business operations for startups and small businesses and find box.net to be very a simple and helpful way to get that intranet of collaboration moving. -I've tried wikis and they fail at bad attachment management, and getting non-technical employees to deal with new WYSIWYG formatting or wiki markup language isn't easy. If all team members aren't using it, it fails. -Google docs came close, but still fails because there are always people who prefer to work on the actual office documents. You'll never get a finance person to move their complex model out of excel into Google spreadsheets, marketing people to move away from powerpoint files, and legal people to move away from word's version tracking. -I don't want to try sharepoint, why spend thousands of dollars at a time like this? Box.net is lightweight and simple which goes a LONG way to getting ALL employees to adopt a solution like this, which is why I like it. although it would be nice to create simple spreadsheets or tables as webdocs, I hope they add that in the future. My guess is that some of these comments don't get that it is not about online storage, it is about working together around business documents and information. If you want to share videos or music, I don't think box.net is right for you. I help set up tech and business operations for startups and small businesses and find box.net to be very a simple and helpful way to get that intranet of collaboration moving.
-I’ve tried wikis and they fail at bad attachment management, and getting non-technical employees to deal with new WYSIWYG formatting or wiki markup language isn’t easy. If all team members aren’t using it, it fails.
-Google docs came close, but still fails because there are always people who prefer to work on the actual office documents. You’ll never get a finance person to move their complex model out of excel into Google spreadsheets, marketing people to move away from powerpoint files, and legal people to move away from word’s version tracking.
-I don’t want to try sharepoint, why spend thousands of dollars at a time like this?

Box.net is lightweight and simple which goes a LONG way to getting ALL employees to adopt a solution like this, which is why I like it. although it would be nice to create simple spreadsheets or tables as webdocs, I hope they add that in the future.

My guess is that some of these comments don’t get that it is not about online storage, it is about working together around business documents and information. If you want to share videos or music, I don’t think box.net is right for you.

]]> By: Deano http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617220 Deano Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:40:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617220 Keys to enterprise/org adoption: 1) Auth integration (LDAP/AD/OpenID); 2) NO SIGNUP REQUIREMENT for file URL recipients (shame services that do this, SHAME!); 3) DAV, or "native file" access to integrate with existing storage solutions/internal filesharing protocols; 4) Unified administration of org users, and permissions inheritance 5) Monitoring/usage quotas Whoever gets all five first, wins. And, notice all you "big IT" nerds: security is NOT an absolute requirement (not knocking security, but we're all already pwned so badly by what users do on the sly, it's much higher value to rope them all into a unified solution, and worry about securing that solution later). Keys to enterprise/org adoption:

1) Auth integration (LDAP/AD/OpenID);

2) NO SIGNUP REQUIREMENT for file URL recipients (shame services that do this, SHAME!);

3) DAV, or “native file” access to integrate with existing storage solutions/internal filesharing protocols;

4) Unified administration of org users, and permissions inheritance

5) Monitoring/usage quotas

Whoever gets all five first, wins.

And, notice all you “big IT” nerds: security is NOT an absolute requirement (not knocking security, but we’re all already pwned so badly by what users do on the sly, it’s much higher value to rope them all into a unified solution, and worry about securing that solution later).

]]> By: hank http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617217 hank Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:36:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617217 I am honing in on my knife-sharpening skills. I am honing in on my knife-sharpening skills.

]]> By: cease http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617197 cease Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:20:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617197 why the f does this story take so much real estate on the homepage. this is nothing new. why the f does this story take so much real estate on the homepage. this is nothing new.

]]> By: Daves http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617176 Daves Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:01:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617176 This is like putting lipstick on a pig. Box.net is a heaven for pirates.... who the heck wants to socialize while doing illegal stuff?!? Do you wanna get caught faster or something?!?!? This is like putting lipstick on a pig.

Box.net is a heaven for pirates…. who the heck wants to socialize while doing illegal stuff?!? Do you wanna get caught faster or something?!?!?

]]> By: Thinking Outside the Box.net | MMM http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617173 Thinking Outside the Box.net | MMM Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:00:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617173 [...] starters, it is adding a few social features to the site, adding profile pages for each individual, which should give [...] [...] starters, it is adding a few social features to the site, adding profile pages for each individual, which should give [...]

]]> By: Foo@foo http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617121 Foo@foo Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:06:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617121 Give it up. Box.not is so utterly dumb it hurts to even say it. What the hell is TC thinking covering a f-ing press release. Look web 1.0 companies raised 250m on this space and they all failed. AOL recently killed XDrive after a decade of failure. Look here. Storage is a commodity and it is a commodity that drops in value every year. Without fail. Why do you want to be in this business when EMC and SanDisk can't make money? Running to the enterprise? Get out. Draper what type of stupid last Ditch panic move is that?shut this dog down and claw back your cash and payoff your LPs. Given Drapers awful decade of returns they could use the help. If there us money to be made here MSFT wouldve long figured it out. Groove anyone? The ui and messaging and installed base will not scale period. The business users are parasitic. Don't be fooled into thinking Box will capture paying customers especially among the big iron set. Security? Hah. Yousendit is more than enough for file transfer. So what is Box's value prop? More space than the next guy? I've got all I need with gmail. Collaboration? Not really bc our internal wiki and sharepoint has that covered. Consultants? Hello recession? Drop-Box.net Draper. Save yourself. You need less web 2.0 snakeoil in your portfolio. Give it up. Box.not is so utterly dumb it hurts to even say it. What the hell is TC thinking covering a f-ing press release.

Look web 1.0 companies raised 250m on this space and they all failed. AOL recently killed XDrive after a decade of failure. Look here. Storage is a commodity and it is a commodity that drops in value every year. Without fail. Why do you want to be in this business when EMC and SanDisk can’t make money?

Running to the enterprise? Get out. Draper what type of stupid last Ditch panic move is that?shut this dog down and claw back your cash and payoff your LPs. Given Drapers awful decade of returns they could use the help.

If there us money to be made here MSFT wouldve long figured it out. Groove anyone?

The ui and messaging and installed base will not scale period. The business users are parasitic. Don’t be fooled into thinking Box will capture paying customers especially among the big iron set. Security? Hah.

Yousendit is more than enough for file transfer. So what is Box’s value prop? More space than the next guy? I’ve got all I need with gmail. Collaboration? Not really bc our internal wiki and sharepoint has that covered. Consultants? Hello recession?

Drop-Box.net Draper. Save yourself.

You need less web 2.0 snakeoil in your portfolio.

]]> By: Mike D http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617104 Mike D Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:52:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617104 I was thinking of the same thing. Google Docs is so simple that I am even using it for project management and shut down my Basecamp account. I was thinking of the same thing. Google Docs is so simple that I am even using it for project management and shut down my Basecamp account.

]]> By: lameservice http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2617093 lameservice Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:43:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2617093 The service is so lame it hurts. Please turn of the web 2.0 speil. I would not use box.not if you paid me. The service is so lame it hurts. Please turn of the web 2.0 speil. I would not use box.not if you paid me.

]]> By: Aleksey Korzun http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2616957 Aleksey Korzun Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:10:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2616957 While I have invested in their 'competitor', box.net guys are very good at what they do. Thumbs up! While I have invested in their ‘competitor’, box.net guys are very good at what they do.

Thumbs up!

]]> By: long island girl http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2616949 long island girl Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:01:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2616949 It's good that there is a more improved website for business and enterprise. We'll just hope that it's user friendly and has features that is useful. It’s good that there is a more improved website for business and enterprise. We’ll just hope that it’s user friendly and has features that is useful.

]]> By: Alfonso http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2616943 Alfonso Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:53:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2616943 and what about google docs? and what about google docs?

]]> By: Francois MAROT http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2616909 Francois MAROT Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:25:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2616909 "I’d like to be able to send a direct message"... Isn't that what we call "emails" or "IM" in entreprises ?! ;) “I’d like to be able to send a direct message”…
Isn’t that what we call “emails” or “IM” in entreprises ?! ;)

]]> By: deralaand http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2616907 deralaand Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:23:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2616907 Is there any comparison between box.net and dropbox? I like the absolute simplicity of dropbox. Especially for co-workers that appear to be almost braindead when it comes to computers. Is there any comparison between box.net and dropbox?

I like the absolute simplicity of dropbox. Especially for co-workers that appear to be almost braindead when it comes to computers.

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="505070242">Yasser Ismail</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2616870 Yasser Ismail Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:48:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2616870 Interesting site! cooljobsalways http://tinyurl.com/7uj5ay Interesting site!

cooljobsalways
http://tinyurl.com/7uj5ay

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="543108005">Jim McNelis</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/05/boxnet-hones-in-on-businesses-with-new-social-features/comment-page-1/#comment-2616867 Jim McNelis Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:47:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41456#comment-2616867 As I told the box.net rep: I'll wait for the GDrive. As I told the box.net rep: I’ll wait for the GDrive.

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