Comments on: The LeapFish Chronicles: “Admitting To Click Fraud Is An Interesting Business Model.” http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:29:47 -0800 hourly 1 By: Fuck You http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3117789 Fuck You Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:39:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3117789 Next time I'm in Pleasanton I'm going to stop by and fuck you up Behnam Behrouzi.... I'm a man of my word Next time I’m in Pleasanton I’m going to stop by and fuck you up Behnam Behrouzi….

I’m a man of my word

]]> By: sara http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3091206 sara Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:27:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3091206 I think that Leapfish is a good idea. I really do believe it will take off. I bought an ad space. Now my company’s name is on top of 3 search engines and will always be there. Yeah, people may not like the sales people. All sales people are scumbags. But if you don’t see the genius behind the way Leapfish works, then you’re an idiot. People are lazy, if they can get all their info from one place and visit their Facebook friends too, then that’s where they’ll go. It’s the new remote control. You can’t sell genius to dim wits. If you guys don’t “get it”, then save the ad space for the rest of us who do “get it” and let us reap the rewards. Only truly stupid people will focus on a stupid sales rep and not be able to comprehend the big picture. I think that Leapfish is a good idea. I really do believe it will take off. I bought an ad space. Now my company’s name is on top of 3 search engines and will always be there. Yeah, people may not like the sales people. All sales people are scumbags. But if you don’t see the genius behind the way Leapfish works, then you’re an idiot. People are lazy, if they can get all their info from one place and visit their Facebook friends too, then that’s where they’ll go. It’s the new remote control. You can’t sell genius to dim wits. If you guys don’t “get it”, then save the ad space for the rest of us who do “get it” and let us reap the rewards. Only truly stupid people will focus on a stupid sales rep and not be able to comprehend the big picture.

]]> By: Why Leapfish permanent ads is a bad idea for searcher and advertiser « eBuyersWorld http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3080078 Why Leapfish permanent ads is a bad idea for searcher and advertiser « eBuyersWorld Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:10:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3080078 [...] http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interest... [...] [...] http://www.tech...-is-an-interest... [...]

]]> By: Rob Shore http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3067926 Rob Shore Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:44:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3067926 Leapfish? Shady? Here is where I chronicled my experience: http://shorespeak.com/blog/2009/09/a-brief-tale-of-sleaze/ Fortunately my bullshit detector went off in time! Leapfish? Shady? Here is where I chronicled my experience: http://shorespe...tale-of-sleaze/
Fortunately my bullshit detector went off in time!

]]> By: SaltLamps http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3065512 SaltLamps Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:48:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3065512 Just got a call from these guys, the fast-talking sales guy wouldn't let me get a word in edge-wise or even ask questions. Wanted to list our website for salt lamps (http://www.ionicsalts.com)...."the next big thing in search engines", blah blah blah. Thanks for the heads up, I won't bother with them. Just got a call from these guys, the fast-talking sales guy wouldn’t let me get a word in edge-wise or even ask questions. Wanted to list our website for salt lamps (http://www.ionicsalts.com)….“the next big thing in search engines”, blah blah blah.

Thanks for the heads up, I won’t bother with them.

]]> By: LeapFish 2.0 Claims To Solve The Real Time Search. But Will They Survive Beyond 2009? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3065063 LeapFish 2.0 Claims To Solve The Real Time Search. But Will They Survive Beyond 2009? Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:32:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3065063 [...] and minds of the technology and online marketing crowd they were focused on their business more and got caught with their “pants down” by the same TechChrunch. After firing the employee who engage in the alleged click fraud described by TechChrunch, the [...] [...] and minds of the technology and online marketing crowd they were focused on their business more and got caught with their “pants down” by the same TechChrunch. After firing the employee who engage in the alleged click fraud described by TechChrunch, the [...]

]]> By: Dr. Len Schwartz http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3062405 Dr. Len Schwartz Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:18:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3062405 This was a very interesting article. What they did, if not illegal, it's very unethical. I wouldn't want anything to do with a company that acts the way leapfish did. This was a very interesting article. What they did, if not illegal, it’s very unethical. I wouldn’t want anything to do with a company that acts the way leapfish did.

]]> By: Gladys http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3033996 Gladys Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:07:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3033996 Like many people (for all the fire I see) I had a really bad experience with leapfish, their sales department and their customer service department. So for those in the same ship and those who are still thinking about joining leapfish please consider this: *They use an over aggressive "soliciting" Sales department *They give you statistics and facts that do not correspond to reality (or are not from their own website) *They tell you at the beginning of their pitch call that it is a one time fee for your keywords and omit the 5% yearly recurring fee *They can’t give you a traffic number for your keyword through their site (and that’s exactly what they’re selling to you). *And they will charge your credit card without your authorization, not even if you ask to see a contract or terms of service beforehand, they will ask for your credit card in order to do that or "to save your spot" and then charge it anyway. Customer Service is just an extension of the sales department and they use intimidation tactics and threaten litigation which is illegal too; so If you are trying to solve a problem with them I strongly recommend you record the phone conversations. (let them know you are doing this beforehand so you can legally use them to defend your case) They will initially refuse to give your money back even if there is a wrong doing on their part or you changed your mind or want to reverse the transaction even minutes after it’s processed by them. If you have a complaint there are several things you can do and I’ll try to enlist some in here, but will encourage you to post more if you have any other: *Make a click fraud complaint at Google. *Report it to your Better Business Bureau *make an FTC complaint http://www.FTCcomplaintassistant.gov *Make a complaint to the Attourney General *Call your Credit Card and ask them to hold the payment, and also file a complaint through them. *Leave Reviews on Alexa and explain your case http://alexa.com/siteinfo/leapfish.com#reviews *Keep a copy of every communication you send and receive from them, specially of the ones you send if they refuse to answer. *Forward all your email communications and complaints to: Leapfish CEO Ben Behrouzi ben.behrouzi@dotnextinc.com *Let your voice be heard, twitter, blog, talk about it in facebook, digg articles that relate to your situation, but do something and not go unheard. And finally do not let this go unresolved. Go forward with this and fight for your money and your rights. Like many people (for all the fire I see) I had a really bad experience with leapfish, their sales department and their customer service department.

So for those in the same ship and those who are still thinking about joining leapfish please consider this:

*They use an over aggressive “soliciting” Sales department
*They give you statistics and facts that do not correspond to reality (or are not from their own website)
*They tell you at the beginning of their pitch call that it is a one time fee for your keywords and omit the 5% yearly recurring fee
*They can’t give you a traffic number for your keyword through their site (and that’s exactly what they’re selling to you).
*And they will charge your credit card without your authorization, not even if you ask to see a contract or terms of service beforehand, they will ask for your credit card in order to do that or “to save your spot” and then charge it anyway.

Customer Service is just an extension of the sales department and they use intimidation tactics and threaten litigation which is illegal too; so If you are trying to solve a problem with them I strongly recommend you record the phone conversations. (let them know you are doing this beforehand so you can legally use them to defend your case)

They will initially refuse to give your money back even if there is a wrong doing on their part or you changed your mind or want to reverse the transaction even minutes after it’s processed by them.

If you have a complaint there are several things you can do and I’ll try to enlist some in here, but will encourage you to post more if you have any other:

*Make a click fraud complaint at Google.
*Report it to your Better Business Bureau
*make an FTC complaint http://www.FTCc...ntassistant.gov
*Make a complaint to the Attourney General
*Call your Credit Card and ask them to hold the payment, and also file a complaint through them.
*Leave Reviews on Alexa and explain your case http://alexa.co...ish.com#reviews
*Keep a copy of every communication you send and receive from them, specially of the ones you send if they refuse to answer.
*Forward all your email communications and complaints to: Leapfish CEO Ben Behrouzi ben.behrouzi@dotnextinc.com
*Let your voice be heard, twitter, blog, talk about it in facebook, digg articles that relate to your situation, but do something and not go unheard.

And finally do not let this go unresolved. Go forward with this and fight for your money and your rights.

]]> By: Di http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-3033635 Di Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:31:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3033635 Leap Fish has very misleading practices They quote the keyword traffic for the world not for their site. You can not get their traffic count. They make you think your going to get the traffic from google. They tell you that it is a virtual contract and you cannot get your money back. They do not tell you that there is a 5% yearly processing fee. If you ever have to pleasure of talking to Micheal, their manager, you will want to reach out and touch him with the phone. ! Leap fish may do well in the future but one tends to think that if they are not on the up and up from the get go, they'll be another company that bites the dust.... Leap Fish has very misleading practices
They quote the keyword traffic for the world not for their site. You can not get their traffic count. They make you think your going to get the traffic from google. They tell you that it is a virtual contract and you cannot get your money back. They do not tell you that there is a 5% yearly processing fee. If you ever have to pleasure of talking to Micheal, their manager, you will want to reach out and touch him with the phone. ! Leap fish may do well in the future but one tends to think that if they are not on the up and up from the get go, they’ll be another company that bites the dust….

]]> By: Leapfish.com is it worth it? A rip off? Let the numbers do the talking. « eBuyersWorld http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3025081 Leapfish.com is it worth it? A rip off? Let the numbers do the talking. « eBuyersWorld Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:08:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3025081 [...] leapfish click fraud [...] [...] leapfish click fraud [...]

]]> By: Anthony http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-3024291 Anthony Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:28:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-3024291 I was just called by someone at Leapfish who say they were looking for an Internet Marketing Speaker to feature on their website at no cost. When I called back, he then proceeded to explain to me what a meta search engine was and had me run various searches. I did not want to be rude or appear arrogant, but I reminded him that he contacted me saying he was looking for an expert and that I knew very well how search engines worked. He then proceeded to talk about "owning keywords" at which point, I asked him to get to the point. He then asked me to run another search for another term so he could explain more. I told him he would have to explain without asking me to use the web, at which point he stumbled and I told him that I did not appreciate his misleading message as he has indicated he was looking for a speaker on his voice mail. I found this post by doing a follow up search on Leapfish. Stay AWAY from this company... FAR away. I was just called by someone at Leapfish who say they were looking for an Internet Marketing Speaker to feature on their website at no cost. When I called back, he then proceeded to explain to me what a meta search engine was and had me run various searches. I did not want to be rude or appear arrogant, but I reminded him that he contacted me saying he was looking for an expert and that I knew very well how search engines worked. He then proceeded to talk about “owning keywords” at which point, I asked him to get to the point. He then asked me to run another search for another term so he could explain more. I told him he would have to explain without asking me to use the web, at which point he stumbled and I told him that I did not appreciate his misleading message as he has indicated he was looking for a speaker on his voice mail.

I found this post by doing a follow up search on Leapfish. Stay AWAY from this company… FAR away.

]]> By: Dan Murphy http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-1/#comment-2976913 Dan Murphy Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:52:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2976913 If you think that lame site is any good, you must have an ego problem of massive proportions. If you think that lame site is any good, you must have an ego problem of massive proportions.

]]> By: Chad Young http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2972594 Chad Young Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:22:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2972594 I'm not sure about Leapfish.com but the way I understand how they work is you pay for one of the top 3 spots on a keyword and it is yours for life. For instance if I wanted to get the #1 position for the keyword "silk flowers" it would cost me approximately $4,800 one time fee and then only 5% per year to retain this keyword. Now, if the search engine grows you will have competition for these keyword however only 3 spots are sold for each keyword, this in turn makes the keyword more valuable as Leapfish gets more users. They told me I would be able to lease or sell my spot if I chose to and they explained it to my like buying domains back in the day that sold for mega money. This is a very big risk if you buy a lot of keywords because who knows what the company will do, it could just fizzle out after the initial hype is done. I'm not sure but it seems like it's easier to be safe than to take a risk but risk can pay off big sometimes and do you think this may be the next big thing in search or do you think it's another way to make a quick buck? I’m not sure about Leapfish.com but the way I understand how they work is you pay for one of the top 3 spots on a keyword and it is yours for life. For instance if I wanted to get the #1 position for the keyword “silk flowers” it would cost me approximately $4,800 one time fee and then only 5% per year to retain this keyword. Now, if the search engine grows you will have competition for these keyword however only 3 spots are sold for each keyword, this in turn makes the keyword more valuable as Leapfish gets more users. They told me I would be able to lease or sell my spot if I chose to and they explained it to my like buying domains back in the day that sold for mega money. This is a very big risk if you buy a lot of keywords because who knows what the company will do, it could just fizzle out after the initial hype is done. I’m not sure but it seems like it’s easier to be safe than to take a risk but risk can pay off big sometimes and do you think this may be the next big thing in search or do you think it’s another way to make a quick buck?

]]> By: Dustin http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2953845 Dustin Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:16:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2953845 Here are some keywords they are bidding on in Google: bloggers blogging rss how to make money with a blog blog review paid review money blog small business money blogging blogs getting paid to blog making money blogging Have fun! But remember click fraud is illegal or something. Here are some keywords they are bidding on in Google:

bloggers
blogging rss
how to make money with a blog
blog review
paid review
money blog
small business money
blogging blogs
getting paid to blog
making money blogging

Have fun!
But remember click fraud is illegal or something.

]]> By: Silicon Valley Protector http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2921989 Silicon Valley Protector Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:22:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2921989 Leapfish.com is a sales "Boiler Room" scam! My friend used to work for them and he quit because he felt that Leapfish.com "keywords" ad revenue model is shady (base on potential future web traffic that might not exist, goto http://www.compete.com and checkout leapfish.com unique visitor which is only 166,398). To sell overpriced ad keywords without website traffics to back them up are worthless and is a scam. In short, they are selling a product that don't exist........ The Leapfish sales team environment is just like a scene of that "Boiler Room" movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbIRedOqDwE Fast talking telesales people calling on real estate agents, insurance agents and scam these people into buying worthless keyword ads...... Leapfish does not even have a CRM system to manage the sales team. Red flag. Scott Leese, VP of Sales is a fake and incompetent because what kind of company that has 50 salespeople or more that do not use a CRM system? A "Boiler Room" salesteam. So that's why you hear Leapfish victims complaint that they get multiple sales call from several Leapfish salespeople because their is no way to keep track of all the sales calls. Leapfish.com and Behnam Behrouzi give Silicon Valley and startups a bad name..... Leapfish.com and Behnam Behrouzi should be put of of business immediately before Leapfish will scam million of dollars out of the public and goes bankrupt just like ePerks.com (Another Behnam Behrouzi's startup that went bankrupt and scammed millions from real estate and insurance agents....probably took the money from that scam to start Leapfish.com) At Google, type "leapfish scam", "eperks scam", "Behnam Behrouzi scam" and you will see a long history of scam, deceits against the public......... Stay way from Leapfish.com and tell the public about it. Leapfish.com is a sales “Boiler Room” scam!

My friend used to work for them and he quit because he felt that Leapfish.com “keywords” ad revenue model is shady (base on potential future web traffic that might not exist, goto http://www.compete.com and checkout
leapfish.com unique visitor which is only 166,398).

To sell overpriced ad keywords without website traffics to back them up are worthless and is a scam. In short, they are selling a product
that don’t exist……..

The Leapfish sales team environment is just like a scene of that “Boiler Room” movie:

http://www.yout...h?v=TbIRedOqDwE

Fast talking telesales people calling on real estate agents, insurance agents and scam these people into buying worthless keyword ads……
Leapfish does not even have a CRM system to manage the sales team. Red flag.
Scott Leese, VP of Sales is a fake and incompetent because what kind of company that has 50 salespeople or more that do not use a CRM system? A “Boiler Room” salesteam.
So that’s why you hear Leapfish victims complaint that they get multiple sales call from several Leapfish salespeople because their is no way to keep track of
all the sales calls.

Leapfish.com and Behnam Behrouzi give Silicon Valley and startups a bad name…..

Leapfish.com and Behnam Behrouzi should be put of of business immediately before
Leapfish will scam million of dollars out of the public and goes bankrupt just like ePerks.com (Another Behnam Behrouzi’s startup that went bankrupt and scammed millions from real estate and insurance agents….probably took the money from that scam to start
Leapfish.com)

At Google, type “leapfish scam”, “eperks scam”, “Behnam Behrouzi scam” and you will see a long history of scam, deceits against the public………

Stay way from Leapfish.com and tell the public about it.

]]> By: Debora http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2908161 Debora Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:16:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2908161 Greetings, Ok I will admit it from the start I am blond and I fell for it. I was contacted August 5th 09 and bought 2 words for my site that has only been up a few months. The same evening something just didn't feel right that's when I found out that I was scammed. So the same evening I called and tried to put a stop on the 1,479.00 charge without much luck I was told they could block it for a month but they would just summit it again next month and I said OK to the sale I would have to pay it.The next day Aug 6th I went the bank, the police station and the Better Business Bureau all without much success. Of course I emailed them and got no response.Is there any thing else I can do to try and get my money back?I really can't afford to lose this money just starting out. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Be Well, debora Greetings,
Ok I will admit it from the start I am blond and I fell for it. I was contacted August 5th 09 and bought 2 words for my site that has only been up a few months. The same evening something just didn’t feel right that’s when I found out that I was scammed. So the same evening I called and tried to put a stop on the 1,479.00 charge without much luck I was told they could block it for a month but they would just summit it again next month and I said OK to the sale I would have to pay it.The next day Aug 6th I went the bank, the police station and the Better Business Bureau all without much success. Of course I emailed them and got no response.Is there any thing else I can do to try and get my money back?I really can’t afford to lose this money just starting out. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Be Well, debora

]]> By: Matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2905163 Matt Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:07:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2905163 This, from an "anonymous" poster who doesn't even link to his own website... Yeah, that gives your post a lot of credibility. This, from an “anonymous” poster who doesn’t even link to his own website…

Yeah, that gives your post a lot of credibility.

]]> By: Matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2905131 Matt Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:03:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2905131 I received a cold call yesterday. "David" seemed pleasant enough and tried applying a little pressure to sell me an advertising position. "Keywords going fast... flying out the door...", etc. I did find his statistics off from the Alexa reports regarding ranking, traffic, and other claims. I actually like the website idea, but the costs quoted and the "maintenance" fee could not be justified for their site. I also do not find the claim of "proprietary" hyper-threading technology credible. Considering the past history of the owner of the website, I hardly find the cost of advertising with them worth the risk. I received a cold call yesterday. “David” seemed pleasant enough and tried applying a little pressure to sell me an advertising position. “Keywords going fast… flying out the door…”, etc.

I did find his statistics off from the Alexa reports regarding ranking, traffic, and other claims.

I actually like the website idea, but the costs quoted and the “maintenance” fee could not be justified for their site. I also do not find the claim of “proprietary” hyper-threading technology credible.

Considering the past history of the owner of the website, I hardly find the cost of advertising with them worth the risk.

]]> By: Search Google, Yahoo and MSN from the same portal http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2892023 Search Google, Yahoo and MSN from the same portal Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:03:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2892023 [...] TechCrunch Article [...] [...] TechCrunch Article [...]

]]> By: Joyce Robertson http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2860745 Joyce Robertson Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:46:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2860745 They are a fraud, I bought a key word and haven't had any clicks other than my own for 2 months. It is a SCAM, they will never be Google someday like they claim. Even their web-site is for sale. They are a fraud, I bought a key word and haven’t had any clicks other than my own for 2 months. It is a SCAM, they will never be Google someday like they claim. Even their web-site is for sale.

]]> By: LeapFish Affiliate Program http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2850447 LeapFish Affiliate Program Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:59:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2850447 [...] did not go far enough nor were they sincere in apologizing for overly aggressive sales person who committed click fraud trying to “scare” potential client into advertising with LeapFish. While LeapFish reacted by firing the employee, the LeapFish blamed TechCrunch for misrepresenting [...] [...] did not go far enough nor were they sincere in apologizing for overly aggressive sales person who committed click fraud trying to “scare” potential client into advertising with LeapFish. While LeapFish reacted by firing the employee, the LeapFish blamed TechCrunch for misrepresenting [...]

]]> By: anonymous http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2839739 anonymous Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:48:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2839739 Just purchased a few keywords for my business last month and I must admit I felt very uneasy about spending almost $5000 on a search site I've never heard of. Then I stumbled onto Techcruch and hearing all this negative feedback made me feel even worst. One month later, I must admit I can't be any happier. I checked my traffic today and it seems I'm receiving almost as much traffic as I did with google. I've also been asking every customer how they found me and 1 out of 5 would say leapfish. 1 out of 5 of course is not the best but considering how long leapfish has been around I think its doing fine, and hopefully my business will grow as they do also. I usually never leave any comments anywhere but after reading all this negative feedback from people who aren't even customers of leapfish or know anything about the company I had to step in from a customers point of view. Just purchased a few keywords for my business last month and I must admit I felt very uneasy about spending almost $5000 on a search site I’ve never heard of. Then I stumbled onto Techcruch and hearing all this negative feedback made me feel even worst. One month later, I must admit I can’t be any happier. I checked my traffic today and it seems I’m receiving almost as much traffic as I did with google. I’ve also been asking every customer how they found me and 1 out of 5 would say leapfish. 1 out of 5 of course is not the best but considering how long leapfish has been around I think its doing fine, and hopefully my business will grow as they do also. I usually never leave any comments anywhere but after reading all this negative feedback from people who aren’t even customers of leapfish or know anything about the company I had to step in from a customers point of view.

]]> By: Mike Field http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2824398 Mike Field Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:53:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2824398 I own a GPS Fleet Tracking company called geomoto and I just got a call from a guy today trying to charge me $2,500 for the term "GPS Fleet Tracking". I have to admit he did a good job of "selling" me on the benefits that he could provide. One thing he couldn't quite answer though was the metrics and how to qualify my investment with the kind of analytic tools google adwords provides. I have always been a big fan of google adwords as it has been a proven tool to sell our vehicle tracking technology. I will say this though they are VERY pushy to get you to make the impulse buy on the spot. Now that I am reading articles and blogs like this I know why. I think I will stick with google and other proven online marketing tools. Thanks for everyone's input. I think this just helped me save some cash. Checkout our site at www.geomoto.com. I own a GPS Fleet Tracking company called geomoto and I just got a call from a guy today trying to charge me $2,500 for the term “GPS Fleet Tracking”. I have to admit he did a good job of “selling” me on the benefits that he could provide. One thing he couldn’t quite answer though was the metrics and how to qualify my investment with the kind of analytic tools google adwords provides. I have always been a big fan of google adwords as it has been a proven tool to sell our vehicle tracking technology. I will say this though they are VERY pushy to get you to make the impulse buy on the spot. Now that I am reading articles and blogs like this I know why. I think I will stick with google and other proven online marketing tools. Thanks for everyone’s input. I think this just helped me save some cash. Checkout our site at http://www.geomoto.com.

]]> By: Click Fraud Detection Nut http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2803746 Click Fraud Detection Nut Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:50:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2803746 I always report all of my click fraud issues to google, Great post I always report all of my click fraud issues to google, Great post

]]> By: brent http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/02/03/the-leapfish-chronicles-admitting-to-click-fraud-is-an-interesting-business-model/comment-page-3/#comment-2757059 brent Wed, 20 May 2009 04:24:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=41039#comment-2757059 these guys called me today and told me I could buy kw "organic baby" or "Eco baby gear" key words for $900 lifetime offer. Or just the kw " baby" for about 4000 dollars. Their offer sounded good but for one I never heard of them and did my research tonight and found this posting. They sound like a bad company to do business with. Google and yahoo are the best and just stick to what is known practices to seo. Good content, good info, good site, blog, twitted, make a video and your site will get good natural organic listings, they good old fashioned hard work way. Don't waste your hard earned money with these stinkyfish people. I know I won't. :) these guys called me today and told me I could buy kw “organic baby” or “Eco baby gear” key words for $900 lifetime offer. Or just the kw ” baby” for about 4000 dollars. Their offer sounded good but for one I never heard of them and did my research tonight and found this posting. They sound like a bad company to do business with. Google and yahoo are the best and just stick to what is known practices to seo. Good content, good info, good site, blog, twitted, make a video and your site will get good natural organic listings, they good old fashioned hard work way. Don’t waste your hard earned money with these stinkyfish people. I know I won’t. :)

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