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		<title>By: Mark Butler</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-2657603</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

I&#039;m not privy to the contract between TC and FM but I suspect that they only sell the impressions that you send to them.

If that&#039;s the case, the solution to your predicament is pretty simple:

Automate your entire ad sales process. 

Not just 125x125 square buttons but the whole thing. Whatever you can&#039;t sell, send it to FM (or whomever your next partner is).

From my vantage point, FM provides two things that benefit TC:

1. Access to a broader pool of advertisers - esp. the large agencies from Madison Av.

2. An automated self-service system - payments, ad management, reporting etc.

Whilst it may be prohibitively expensive to build out your own sales team to achieve (1), I think you can provide (2) relatively easily. 

Hire a couple of developers to build it or use an off-the-shelf white-labeled self-service system like Trafficspaces, Adready, or even one of the Wordpress plugins (on second thoughts, the Wordpress plugins might not be up to scratch).

&quot;about a third of our revenue comes from ad sales&quot;

I assume that most of these sales are for ad campaigns in the &quot;&gt; $5000&quot; range. By rule of thumb, there is potentially a third of your revenue that is in the &quot;&lt; $5000&quot; range that is being left on the table. 

Understandably, your direct ad sales team/person needs to focus on the bigger tickets but with an automated self-service system, you need not give half of your revenue to Google and FM.

Just my two cents.
Mark
Trafficspaces.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not privy to the contract between TC and FM but I suspect that they only sell the impressions that you send to them.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, the solution to your predicament is pretty simple:</p>
<p>Automate your entire ad sales process. </p>
<p>Not just 125&#215;125 square buttons but the whole thing. Whatever you can&#8217;t sell, send it to FM (or whomever your next partner is).</p>
<p>From my vantage point, FM provides two things that benefit TC:</p>
<p>1. Access to a broader pool of advertisers &#8211; esp. the large agencies from Madison Av.</p>
<p>2. An automated self-service system &#8211; payments, ad management, reporting etc.</p>
<p>Whilst it may be prohibitively expensive to build out your own sales team to achieve (1), I think you can provide (2) relatively easily. </p>
<p>Hire a couple of developers to build it or use an off-the-shelf white-labeled self-service system like Trafficspaces, Adready, or even one of the Wordpress plugins (on second thoughts, the Wordpress plugins might not be up to scratch).</p>
<p>&#8220;about a third of our revenue comes from ad sales&#8221;</p>
<p>I assume that most of these sales are for ad campaigns in the &#8220;&gt; $5000&#8243; range. By rule of thumb, there is potentially a third of your revenue that is in the &#8220;&lt; $5000&#8243; range that is being left on the table. </p>
<p>Understandably, your direct ad sales team/person needs to focus on the bigger tickets but with an automated self-service system, you need not give half of your revenue to Google and FM.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.<br />
Mark<br />
Trafficspaces.com</p>
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		<title>By: Trafficspaces: Self-service Ad Management Platform</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-3/#comment-2657431</link>
		<dc:creator>Trafficspaces: Self-service Ad Management Platform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Arrington of Techcrunch mused about dumping his long term partner Federated Media because his advertisers (who had to go to Federated Media’s site to place ads with Techcrunch) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Arrington of Techcrunch mused about dumping his long term partner Federated Media because his advertisers (who had to go to Federated Media’s site to place ads with Techcrunch) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogging Doesn&#8217;t Create Billionares &#124; Webpreneur</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2620153</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogging Doesn&#8217;t Create Billionares &#124; Webpreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogs to try and discover new means of revenue, particularly when huge blogs like TechCrunch are questioning current revenue streams. I have done the normal thing and stuck a few Google Ads on the side of this page to cover [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogs to try and discover new means of revenue, particularly when huge blogs like TechCrunch are questioning current revenue streams. I have done the normal thing and stuck a few Google Ads on the side of this page to cover [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch to dump Federated Media &#171; Squash</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2617545</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch to dump Federated Media &#171; Squash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that in January this year, Arrington wrote a post which for all intents and purpose, looked like a final warning that Techcrunch was about to give Federated the flick, it seems almost certain the relationship is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that in January this year, Arrington wrote a post which for all intents and purpose, looked like a final warning that Techcrunch was about to give Federated the flick, it seems almost certain the relationship is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gWHIZ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2603669</link>
		<dc:creator>gWHIZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;DIY Scalable Ad&#160;Network...&lt;/strong&gt;

Mike Arrington asks &#8220;Is It Time To Swith Ad Partners?&#8221;
HELL YES! Not just &#8220;HELL YES!&#8221; but think of something far more profane and that is what I meant to say.
Mike, why, in this day and age of falling infrastructure prices would...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>DIY Scalable Ad&nbsp;Network&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Mike Arrington asks &#8220;Is It Time To Swith Ad Partners?&#8221;<br />
HELL YES! Not just &#8220;HELL YES!&#8221; but think of something far more profane and that is what I meant to say.<br />
Mike, why, in this day and age of falling infrastructure prices would&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 2009 Online Advertising Forecast - Dogster, Inc. &#187; Dogster Inc. Company Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2602879</link>
		<dc:creator>2009 Online Advertising Forecast - Dogster, Inc. &#187; Dogster Inc. Company Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ad Networks: The bottom has pretty much fallen out of the large-scale high-end networks. There is still lots of money here, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ad Networks: The bottom has pretty much fallen out of the large-scale high-end networks. There is still lots of money here, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2600303</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@S 

We should talk</description>
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<p>We should talk</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2600295</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TechCrunch already has a Self Service interface.  

http://advertisers.federatedmedia.net/explore/?site=techcrunch

Adready is great, but they have a huge set up fee and still take a % reve share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TechCrunch already has a Self Service interface.  </p>
<p><a href="http://advertisers.federatedmedia.net/explore/?site=techcrunch" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://advertisers.federatedmedia.net/explore/?site=techcrunch'>http://advertis...site=techcrunch</a></p>
<p>Adready is great, but they have a huge set up fee and still take a % reve share.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2600290</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cmon Mike Start Your own Vertical Tech Network! Do it!</description>
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		<title>By: Bloggers Rebel Against Federated Media : Techozi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2599828</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloggers Rebel Against Federated Media : Techozi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was when FM&#8217;s crown jewel TechCrunch gave a hint that they are considering alternatives. Michael Arrington wrote in his blog post, &#8220;I’m nervous about our ad partner Federated Media, which supplies about a third of our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was when FM&#8217;s crown jewel TechCrunch gave a hint that they are considering alternatives. Michael Arrington wrote in his blog post, &#8220;I’m nervous about our ad partner Federated Media, which supplies about a third of our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JillK</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2599157</link>
		<dc:creator>JillK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Go with a large established partner, or buy other blogs and then build your own sales force. You need reach to get size, else a partner that has a brand much reach larger than yours. WSJ could sell ads for you, Glam/Brash, or CNet/CBS. Smaller players like FM will not cut it at your level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Go with a large established partner, or buy other blogs and then build your own sales force. You need reach to get size, else a partner that has a brand much reach larger than yours. WSJ could sell ads for you, Glam/Brash, or CNet/CBS. Smaller players like FM will not cut it at your level.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-2599147</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am on the Glam Network, and can verify that almost all of the ads Glam have run to date are high CPM&#039;s for me. Glam does offer GlamX as an option for Publishers for below the fold, secondary ads, is a new offering to allow publishers to get help on non premium ads space and is a great new service. Glam also offers us technology support, GlamTV, and perks.

Lot of long term happy publishers on their network- so Michael should seriously consider Brash men network.  They will seriously hurt FM and others as they expand men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on the Glam Network, and can verify that almost all of the ads Glam have run to date are high CPM&#8217;s for me. Glam does offer GlamX as an option for Publishers for below the fold, secondary ads, is a new offering to allow publishers to get help on non premium ads space and is a great new service. Glam also offers us technology support, GlamTV, and perks.</p>
<p>Lot of long term happy publishers on their network- so Michael should seriously consider Brash men network.  They will seriously hurt FM and others as they expand men.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2599029</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried NetSheter? You should give them a call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried NetSheter? You should give them a call.</p>
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		<title>By: ¿El Marketing en Buscadores tambien se resiente? &#124; Denken Über</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2599023</link>
		<dc:creator>¿El Marketing en Buscadores tambien se resiente? &#124; Denken Über</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] antes que con sus &#8220;asociados&#8221; (blogs como TechCrunch o Boing Boing) los hizo enojar y tal vez pierdan a TC como nave de batalla en el mercado de tecnologia algo que, más allá del caracter de Michael Arrington es bastante coherente; las agencias que [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] antes que con sus &#8220;asociados&#8221; (blogs como TechCrunch o Boing Boing) los hizo enojar y tal vez pierdan a TC como nave de batalla en el mercado de tecnologia algo que, más allá del caracter de Michael Arrington es bastante coherente; las agencias que [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AliBaba</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2598990</link>
		<dc:creator>AliBaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Closer To The Ideal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sharing ad dollars is the best way to get ad dollars</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2598897</link>
		<dc:creator>Closer To The Ideal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sharing ad dollars is the best way to get ad dollars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Arrington offers this fake criticism of  Federated Media: But as advertising dollars become harder to come by, staying with Federated becomes more costly. The biggest issue is that as a market leader among tech blogs, we end up subsidizing others. An example - an advertiser comes to us with, say, a $100,000 spend. They are referred through to Federated, who if they make the sale gets a 40% cut. That cut is fine. But what Federated then does is spread that $100k around to many different blogs. In the end we may only see a small fraction of it spent on TechCrunch. This works in our favor as well when leads come in from other blogs. But given how much higher profile we are than many of the other blogs in the Federated network, a disproportionate share of leads comes in through us. In effect, we’re subsidizing our competition. As ad dollars become more scarce, the effect of that subsidy is more pronounced. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Arrington offers this fake criticism of  Federated Media: But as advertising dollars become harder to come by, staying with Federated becomes more costly. The biggest issue is that as a market leader among tech blogs, we end up subsidizing others. An example &#8211; an advertiser comes to us with, say, a $100,000 spend. They are referred through to Federated, who if they make the sale gets a 40% cut. That cut is fine. But what Federated then does is spread that $100k around to many different blogs. In the end we may only see a small fraction of it spent on TechCrunch. This works in our favor as well when leads come in from other blogs. But given how much higher profile we are than many of the other blogs in the Federated network, a disproportionate share of leads comes in through us. In effect, we’re subsidizing our competition. As ad dollars become more scarce, the effect of that subsidy is more pronounced. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: miked</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2598769</link>
		<dc:creator>miked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael I know you are brilliant and all but this is clearly a decision you are making because of a bruised ego and not because it makes good business sense.  You have framed the argument in away that leads to only one reasonable conclusion. 

Networks are attractive to large advertisers because they bring scale within a niche market. 

If you have to learn this lesson the hard way then go right ahead.  We will all watch as your ads move from huge brand name companies to less well known and lower paying brands.

How much do you really know about why the big brands spend ALL of the money they do with TechCrunch?  I will bet you that the majority of the money they spend is because you are part of buy that must have the reach that Tech Crunch alone cannot provide.  

But hire yourself a sales team, pay them a bunch of money, go several months with much lower revenues and then have your sales team tell you what I just told you.  What common sense should tell you. 

My guess is that you realized that you need Federated a lot more than they need you and you just cant handle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael I know you are brilliant and all but this is clearly a decision you are making because of a bruised ego and not because it makes good business sense.  You have framed the argument in away that leads to only one reasonable conclusion. </p>
<p>Networks are attractive to large advertisers because they bring scale within a niche market. </p>
<p>If you have to learn this lesson the hard way then go right ahead.  We will all watch as your ads move from huge brand name companies to less well known and lower paying brands.</p>
<p>How much do you really know about why the big brands spend ALL of the money they do with TechCrunch?  I will bet you that the majority of the money they spend is because you are part of buy that must have the reach that Tech Crunch alone cannot provide.  </p>
<p>But hire yourself a sales team, pay them a bunch of money, go several months with much lower revenues and then have your sales team tell you what I just told you.  What common sense should tell you. </p>
<p>My guess is that you realized that you need Federated a lot more than they need you and you just cant handle it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kats</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2598575</link>
		<dc:creator>Kats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you be any more dysfunctional and misguided?  
This is yet another reason why TechCrunch is going down the toilet.
Your complete lack of business scruples makes me question any &#039;news&#039; you might be reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you be any more dysfunctional and misguided?<br />
This is yet another reason why TechCrunch is going down the toilet.<br />
Your complete lack of business scruples makes me question any &#8216;news&#8217; you might be reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: EricIsCool</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-2598426</link>
		<dc:creator>EricIsCool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Could&#039;nt agree with you more mate! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Could&#8217;nt agree with you more mate! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Franklin Winston</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2598116</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much revenue did TC do in 2008?  Does anyone know?</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-2598021</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol. Mediaplanner NYC is John Battelle.

Good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. Mediaplanner NYC is John Battelle.</p>
<p>Good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-2598019</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with eeew. Adbrite is simply disgusting. I can understand why someone without a choice would adop them, but techcrunch? 

No way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with eeew. Adbrite is simply disgusting. I can understand why someone without a choice would adop them, but techcrunch? </p>
<p>No way.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-2598011</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when you start off as a small fry, join an ad network because there&#039;s no way you can do so well by your own damn self.


When you become a market leader, time to cut the cord and branch out on your own as you have now begun to subsidize other small fries.


Interesting. Certainly makes good business sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when you start off as a small fry, join an ad network because there&#8217;s no way you can do so well by your own damn self.</p>
<p>When you become a market leader, time to cut the cord and branch out on your own as you have now begun to subsidize other small fries.</p>
<p>Interesting. Certainly makes good business sense.</p>
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		<title>By: JKatt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-1/#comment-2597941</link>
		<dc:creator>JKatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You lads need to discuss this in private. Michael&#039;s throwing a public tantrum, but get this: When you stop playing The Game, The Game is over.

He&#039;s got some growing up to do.

LOTS.

This is tantamount to public bullying, all-the-while eliciting your competitors to do him a better deal. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve figured this out.

You&#039;ve got an online empire that does NOT have to rely on him, any more than Mister Gates&#039; ultimate future relied on Big Blue.

In both cases, &quot;it was fun (????) while it lasted.&quot; But right away, the first time I saw the Federated website, I knew that you were building the online equivalent that Billy Ziff, et al., did with paper publishing back in the day.

Go do it. Be fruitful and multiply.

MA&#039;s arrogance will always be his downfall.

sigh~jk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lads need to discuss this in private. Michael&#8217;s throwing a public tantrum, but get this: When you stop playing The Game, The Game is over.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got some growing up to do.</p>
<p>LOTS.</p>
<p>This is tantamount to public bullying, all-the-while eliciting your competitors to do him a better deal. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve figured this out.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got an online empire that does NOT have to rely on him, any more than Mister Gates&#8217; ultimate future relied on Big Blue.</p>
<p>In both cases, &#8220;it was fun (????) while it lasted.&#8221; But right away, the first time I saw the Federated website, I knew that you were building the online equivalent that Billy Ziff, et al., did with paper publishing back in the day.</p>
<p>Go do it. Be fruitful and multiply.</p>
<p>MA&#8217;s arrogance will always be his downfall.</p>
<p>sigh~jk</p>
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		<title>By: GiveUpInternet.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/16/is-it-time-to-switch-ad-partners/comment-page-2/#comment-2597919</link>
		<dc:creator>GiveUpInternet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i read the comments, i hate blogging...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i read the comments, i hate blogging&#8230;</p>
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