Comments on: Facebook Lets App Developers Swap Content With Custom Tags http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/ Startup and Technology News Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:05:19 -0800 hourly 1 By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="542760467">Jeff Stevens</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2612829 Jeff Stevens Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:48:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2612829 this is cool... this is cool…

]]> By: Strategic Internet Marketing http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2597130 Strategic Internet Marketing Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:33:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2597130 With this kind of "mindset" facebook is going to grow faster and make the app developers' job easier. With this kind of “mindset” facebook is going to grow faster and make the app developers’ job easier.

]]> By: William http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2594440 William Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:22:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2594440 Micah I agree with you. The Elephant in the room If you are an Open Source Developer or Content creator (If you are a member of either service you are a content creator) you should not use Facebook. By using Facebook you are essentially raising the value of their company and their application Facebook is a closed source content silos that does not allow you to control the content that you create. Facebook does not put the content creator/members at the top of their pyramids when thinking about revenue models. Facebook puts their Facebook first above the members and communities that have given them value and revenue. If you are a developer you may be able to make some money by creating applications for Facebook ; but I do not believe that Facebook will ever allow your application to eat into their user base or their revenue. Because Facebook is a closed source companies that have the ability to literally cut you off by changing the code/api or by using their proprietary knowledge to build an application that you can not possibly compete with. As a coder understand that when you build and extend Facebooks propitiatory platforms that you undermine the longevity of the Open Internet. Content owners and Developers do not help closed source companies (Facebook) in their goal of creating another closed source content trap that will extract hundreds of Millions on dollars from their member and developer communities and give nothing back in return. Micah
I agree with you.

The Elephant in the room

If you are an Open Source Developer or Content creator (If you are a member of either service you are a content creator) you should not use Facebook.

By using Facebook you are essentially raising the value of their company and their application Facebook is a closed source content silos that does not allow you to control the content that you create.

Facebook does not put the content creator/members at the top of their pyramids when thinking about revenue models. Facebook puts their Facebook first above the members and communities that have given them value and revenue.

If you are a developer you may be able to make some money by creating applications for Facebook ; but I do not believe that Facebook will ever allow your application to eat into their user base or their revenue. Because Facebook is a closed source companies that have the ability to literally cut you off by changing the code/api or by using their proprietary knowledge to build an application that you can not possibly compete with.

As a coder understand that when you build and extend Facebooks propitiatory platforms that you undermine the longevity of the Open Internet.

Content owners and Developers do not help closed source companies (Facebook) in their goal of creating another closed source content trap that will extract hundreds of Millions on dollars from their member and developer communities and give nothing back in return.

]]> By: Facebook Uygulama Geliştircilere İçerik Takas İmkanı tanımaya başladı « Bay Bedava - Netten Başlıklar http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2593420 Facebook Uygulama Geliştircilere İçerik Takas İmkanı tanımaya başladı « Bay Bedava - Netten Başlıklar Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:46:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2593420 [...] Kaynak Tags: applicaiton, Facebook, içerik, uygulama [...] [...] Kaynak Tags: applicaiton, Facebook, içerik, uygulama [...]

]]> By: William http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2593345 William Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:42:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2593345 The Elephant in the room If you are an Open Source Developer or Content creator (If you are a member of either service you are a content creator) you should not use Facebook. By using Facebook you are essentially raising the value of their company and their application Facebook is a closed source content silos that does not allow you to control the content that you create. Facebook does not put the content creator/members at the top of their pyramids when thinking about revenue models. Facebook puts their Facebook first above the members and communities that have given them value and revenue. If you are a developer you may be able to make some money by creating applications for Facebook ; but I do not believe that Facebook will ever allow your application to eat into their user base or their revenue. Because Facebook is a closed source companies that have the ability to literally cut you off by changing the code/api or by using their proprietary knowledge to build an application that you can not possibly compete with. As a coder understand that when you build and extend Facebooks propitiatory platforms that you undermine the longevity of the Open Internet. Content owners and Developers do not help closed source companies (Facebook) in their goal of creating another closed source content trap that will extract hundreds of Millions on dollars from their member and developer communities and give nothing back in return. The Elephant in the room

If you are an Open Source Developer or Content creator (If you are a member of either service you are a content creator) you should not use Facebook.

By using Facebook you are essentially raising the value of their company and their application Facebook is a closed source content silos that does not allow you to control the content that you create.

Facebook does not put the content creator/members at the top of their pyramids when thinking about revenue models. Facebook puts their Facebook first above the members and communities that have given them value and revenue.

If you are a developer you may be able to make some money by creating applications for Facebook ; but I do not believe that Facebook will ever allow your application to eat into their user base or their revenue. Because Facebook is a closed source companies that have the ability to literally cut you off by changing the code/api or by using their proprietary knowledge to build an application that you can not possibly compete with.

As a coder understand that when you build and extend Facebooks propitiatory platforms that you undermine the longevity of the Open Internet.

Content owners and Developers do not help closed source companies (Facebook) in their goal of creating another closed source content trap that will extract hundreds of Millions on dollars from their member and developer communities and give nothing back in return.

]]> By: Facebook、カスタムタグでアプリ開発者間のコンテンツ交換を可能に http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2593118 Facebook、カスタムタグでアプリ開発者間のコンテンツ交換を可能に Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:46:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2593118 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: CC http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2593062 CC Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:43:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2593062 Can someone explain to me why this is better than just using an fb:ref tag? Can someone explain to me why this is better than just using an fb:ref tag?

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="227302595">Rudolf Olah</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2593003 Rudolf Olah Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:33:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2593003 Facebook and its apps would be more useful if they weren't closed to the rest of the web and to other social networks. Facebook and its apps would be more useful if they weren’t closed to the rest of the web and to other social networks.

]]> By: Matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592953 Matt Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:57:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592953 Are you really comparing FB Connect to OpenID? From implementation to experience to identity control Facebook Connect trumps "OpenID" in every conceivable way. Facebook is a utility, a place where normal people build a normal network and conduct normal activity around their normal lives... OpenID is a geeky sausage fest with no clear direction, leadership, or mainstream utility. Nobody is able to go to "OpenID" and create a profile, a friend-list, etc... the whole "Open" movement is a joke behind the scenes... none of those people give a fuck about openness... it's nothing but an ego-train and it will eventually derail, leaving anyone who relied on the "Open" infrastructure just as ass-out as some 2 bit developer who violated FB terms of use and paid the price. Were Facebook as "Open" as 112 geeks (yourself likely included) demanded it should be then 140 Million people would have their private lives spewed all over the web in a matter of seconds. 112 vs 140,000,000 ... hmmm... all of a sudden it's a no-brainer, eh? I agree with most of what you said (except the part about custom tags being like Twitter apps), but that little, seemingly-innocuous aside you threw in about OpenID was quite worthy of a rant. :-D Are you really comparing FB Connect to OpenID? From implementation to experience to identity control Facebook Connect trumps “OpenID” in every conceivable way. Facebook is a utility, a place where normal people build a normal network and conduct normal activity around their normal lives… OpenID is a geeky sausage fest with no clear direction, leadership, or mainstream utility. Nobody is able to go to “OpenID” and create a profile, a friend-list, etc… the whole “Open” movement is a joke behind the scenes… none of those people give a fuck about openness… it’s nothing but an ego-train and it will eventually derail, leaving anyone who relied on the “Open” infrastructure just as ass-out as some 2 bit developer who violated FB terms of use and paid the price. Were Facebook as “Open” as 112 geeks (yourself likely included) demanded it should be then 140 Million people would have their private lives spewed all over the web in a matter of seconds. 112 vs 140,000,000 … hmmm… all of a sudden it’s a no-brainer, eh?

I agree with most of what you said (except the part about custom tags being like Twitter apps), but that little, seemingly-innocuous aside you threw in about OpenID was quite worthy of a rant. :-D

]]> By: lelord http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592949 lelord Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:54:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592949 http://www.facepink.com - the free facebook sex social netwok http://www.facepink.com – the free facebook sex social netwok

]]> By: Matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592933 Matt Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:41:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592933 Perhaps *you* don't care about Facebook apps anymore... You can liken Facebook apps to the web itself... most of it is "spammy crap", but the good stuff rises to the top, is useful as hell, and is here to stay a while. Perhaps *you* don’t care about Facebook apps anymore… You can liken Facebook apps to the web itself… most of it is “spammy crap”, but the good stuff rises to the top, is useful as hell, and is here to stay a while.

]]> By: Micah http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592925 Micah Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:31:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592925 Heh, I think it's a step in the wrong direction...for the Web as a whole. I think it makes sense for Facebook, but I'm a little scared that they're reinventing (and making proprietary) the entire Web, one piece at a time. FB Apps (with FBML, FBJS, etc.) were the start. Up next was FB Connect (instead of OpenID). Now, this tag-swapping stuff is eerily similar to the mashups you see everywhere else (like Twitter apps). Concentrating all this development effort around Facebook really bothers me. They've shown time and again that they're willing to change all the rules at a moment's notice, breaking existing apps and leaving developers out in the cold. Heh, I think it’s a step in the wrong direction…for the Web as a whole. I think it makes sense for Facebook, but I’m a little scared that they’re reinventing (and making proprietary) the entire Web, one piece at a time.

FB Apps (with FBML, FBJS, etc.) were the start. Up next was FB Connect (instead of OpenID). Now, this tag-swapping stuff is eerily similar to the mashups you see everywhere else (like Twitter apps).

Concentrating all this development effort around Facebook really bothers me. They’ve shown time and again that they’re willing to change all the rules at a moment’s notice, breaking existing apps and leaving developers out in the cold.

]]> By: Joshua Davis http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592872 Joshua Davis Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:55:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592872 I think this is a step in the right direction, because who really has time to use, let alone keep track of all the apps out there? I can't wait till the time comes when all you have is 4 or 5 main apps (Blog, Photo, Video, Chat, etc.) that have the ability to add more features by plugging in other apps. Sub-apps if you will. Anyone want to create an app to keep track of all my apps? lol. I think this is a step in the right direction, because who really has time to use, let alone keep track of all the apps out there? I can’t wait till the time comes when all you have is 4 or 5 main apps (Blog, Photo, Video, Chat, etc.) that have the ability to add more features by plugging in other apps. Sub-apps if you will.

Anyone want to create an app to keep track of all my apps? lol.

]]> By: J. C. McClore http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592869 J. C. McClore Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:54:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592869 I love how Facebook is obsessed with perfecting their App feature. Bear in mind this feature brings in no revenue to them, nor is it central to their business. I mean seriously, are 150 million people registered with Facebook because of the amazing 3rd party Apps they host? Why don't they start taking themselves seriously are build a revenue model? They're acting like they have 40 billion dollars in the bank and are churning a hefty profit year in and year out and have all the time in the world to make these poop-bit alterations to perfect the site. I love how Facebook is obsessed with perfecting their App feature.

Bear in mind this feature brings in no revenue to them, nor is it central to their business.

I mean seriously, are 150 million people registered with Facebook because of the amazing 3rd party Apps they host?

Why don’t they start taking themselves seriously are build a revenue model? They’re acting like they have 40 billion dollars in the bank and are churning a hefty profit year in and year out and have all the time in the world to make these poop-bit alterations to perfect the site.

]]> By: Questionmark http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592861 Questionmark Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:49:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592861 I have a question: does anyone still care about Facebook ? I have a question: does anyone still care about Facebook ?

]]> By: John C. McClore http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592859 John C. McClore Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:44:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592859 They should stop dicking around with their Mickey-Mouse App feature and start figuring out a revenue model. They should stop dicking around with their Mickey-Mouse App feature and start figuring out a revenue model.

]]> By: Trutoon http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592851 Trutoon Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:34:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592851 Here is a cool website to create personalized avatars with your own face for facebook, myspace etc. Check it out http://www.trutoon.com Here is a cool website to create personalized avatars with your own face for facebook, myspace etc. Check it out http://www.trutoon.com

]]> By: Ashu http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592845 Ashu Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:28:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592845 This sounds interesting, especially to leverage and use the content of well developed apps. This sounds interesting, especially to leverage and use the content of well developed apps.

]]> By: Peter Epstein http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592844 Peter Epstein Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:28:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592844 This is some good and well-needed innovation by Facebook. Seems in general like facebook apps are dying, but this should help boost the app market by having developers collaborating amongst eachother. Peter Epstein www.thewebwar.com/facebook This is some good and well-needed innovation by Facebook. Seems in general like facebook apps are dying, but this should help boost the app market by having developers collaborating amongst eachother.

Peter Epstein
http://www.thew...ar.com/facebook

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="713909967">Chad Estes</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592837 Chad Estes Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:18:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592837 Good applications are most commonly not found by browsing but by recommendations from friends. There are also some fun and valuable applications out there today which are branded and therefore don't have the annoying mix-match of advertisements which look like valid facebook functions embedded within it. Good applications are most commonly not found by browsing but by recommendations from friends. There are also some fun and valuable applications out there today which are branded and therefore don’t have the annoying mix-match of advertisements which look like valid facebook functions embedded within it.

]]> By: Holden Page http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592825 Holden Page Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:08:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592825 He didn't answer his own question, he gave an example relating to his question. He didn’t answer his own question, he gave an example relating to his question.

]]> By: Holden Page http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592823 Holden Page Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:07:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592823 This would be awesome, if like you know, I didn't have to dig through three fourths the apps to find a good one... :) This would be awesome, if like you know, I didn’t have to dig through three fourths the apps to find a good one… :)

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="619450277">Jon Lee</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592821 Jon Lee Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:04:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592821 Answer your own questions much? Answer your own questions much?

]]> By: Marin http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/13/facebook-lets-app-developers-swap-content-with-custom-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-2592792 Marin Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:34:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=37452#comment-2592792 Just a quick question: since the redesign, does anyone care about Facebook apps? I think I may have a music or video playing app on there, but most are spammy crap. Of course, the Whopper Sacrifice app is incredible. Just a quick question: since the redesign, does anyone care about Facebook apps? I think I may have a music or video playing app on there, but most are spammy crap. Of course, the Whopper Sacrifice app is incredible.

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