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		<title>By: GPS technologies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Location-based Iphone Ad Startup Apploop Closes Down</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2649027</link>
		<dc:creator>GPS technologies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Location-based Iphone Ad Startup Apploop Closes Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mobile advertising startup AppLoop has shut down, according to Techcrunch.  The company launched last June, timed to coincide with the 3G iPhone release, and provided a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2589480</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any other simple rss app generator out there? Or a tutorial?</description>
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		<title>By: AppLoop Has Shut Down &#124; FuckedStartups</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2587374</link>
		<dc:creator>AppLoop Has Shut Down &#124; FuckedStartups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8230;we’re hearing rumors that the startup is in trouble, and they appear to hold some truth. For one, the company’s website has been down for the past two days. Worse, a quick glance on Twitter suggests that the service’s downtime is also causing iPhone apps using AppLoop libraries to crash.  TechCrunch reports it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8230;we’re hearing rumors that the startup is in trouble, and they appear to hold some truth. For one, the company’s website has been down for the past two days. Worse, a quick glance on Twitter suggests that the service’s downtime is also causing iPhone apps using AppLoop libraries to crash.  TechCrunch reports it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why the TechCrunch Economy Will Faulter &#124; Venture Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2586666</link>
		<dc:creator>Why the TechCrunch Economy Will Faulter &#124; Venture Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now, we’re hearing rumors that the startup is in trouble, and they appear to hold some truth. For one, the company’s website has been down for the past two days. Worse, a quick glance on Twitter suggests that the service’s downtime is also causing iPhone apps using AppLoop libraries to crash.[From Is AppLoop Fading Already?] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now, we’re hearing rumors that the startup is in trouble, and they appear to hold some truth. For one, the company’s website has been down for the past two days. Worse, a quick glance on Twitter suggests that the service’s downtime is also causing iPhone apps using AppLoop libraries to crash.[From Is AppLoop Fading Already?] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Igor Faletski</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2586503</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor Faletski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already have a giant in this space called Google DoubleClick, which will simply incorporate new features into its platform as they are proven. A lot of muscle and funding is needed to grow a new company here. Plus, being both the publisher and the ad network is tough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already have a giant in this space called Google DoubleClick, which will simply incorporate new features into its platform as they are proven. A lot of muscle and funding is needed to grow a new company here. Plus, being both the publisher and the ad network is tough.</p>
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		<title>By: Location-based iPhone ad startup AppLoop closes down&#160;&#124;&#160;GPS Obsessed</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2586478</link>
		<dc:creator>Location-based iPhone ad startup AppLoop closes down&#160;&#124;&#160;GPS Obsessed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mobile advertising startup AppLoop has shut down, according to Techcrunch.  The company launched last June, timed to coincide with the 3G iPhone release, and provided a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Apploop now Rests in Peace &#124; Startup Meme - Technology Startup and Latest Tech News</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2585559</link>
		<dc:creator>Apploop now Rests in Peace &#124; Startup Meme - Technology Startup and Latest Tech News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a platform for mobile advertising and tracking platform has given up to tough economic times. The founder, Eric Kerr confirmed the company’s shutdown for financial [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2585144</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess San Francisco didn&#039;t work out after all! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess San Francisco didn&#8217;t work out after all! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Davide Di Cillo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584827</link>
		<dc:creator>Davide Di Cillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m doing something similar to them giving to young artists the possibility of publishing and selling backgrounds for iphone, contained in dedicated applications, one for each artists ( http://www.artforiphone.com ).

I wonder what are the legal problems they incurred in, if related so some patent infringement or to the revenue sharing process.

In my experience with them i can only say that i wanted to use their services about a month a go but it was impossible to get in touch with them. they never answered to any of my emails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m doing something similar to them giving to young artists the possibility of publishing and selling backgrounds for iphone, contained in dedicated applications, one for each artists ( <a href="http://www.artforiphone.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.artforiphone.com'>http://www.artforiphone.com</a> ).</p>
<p>I wonder what are the legal problems they incurred in, if related so some patent infringement or to the revenue sharing process.</p>
<p>In my experience with them i can only say that i wanted to use their services about a month a go but it was impossible to get in touch with them. they never answered to any of my emails.</p>
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		<title>By: questions</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584800</link>
		<dc:creator>questions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this sort of weird to anybody?  Just disappearing in the middle of the night?  Not posting a message on the website?  That takes 3 seconds.  They also stated legal problems.  anybody know what those might be? or any more detailed information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this sort of weird to anybody?  Just disappearing in the middle of the night?  Not posting a message on the website?  That takes 3 seconds.  They also stated legal problems.  anybody know what those might be? or any more detailed information?</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="26203821">Kyle Kilby</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584742</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="26203821">Kyle Kilby</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why a company would just peace out without waving goodbye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why a company would just peace out without waving goodbye</p>
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		<title>By: AppLoopは既にサービス停止？</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584729</link>
		<dc:creator>AppLoopは既にサービス停止？</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ［原文へ］ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="16404762">James Gillmore</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584728</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="16404762">James Gillmore</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm</description>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="521469533">Miguel Menchu</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584719</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="521469533">Miguel Menchu</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very skeptical about this whole ad-supported revenue model. The idea of displaying ads based on ones location sounds appealing at first glance, but not every time I walk through Times Square am I in the mood - nor have the time - to get myself a fancy new toothbrush. Such technology could be perhaps more effective if the phone was aware that 1. I actually had time to go shopping 2. I actually wanted/needed to spend some money. I think services that are rich in traffic but hard to monetize on should be coupled with some other service that can subsidize the whole thing in exchange for the user base. Think tourism. Think social actions. Think peer pressure. Enough with this behavior-learning location-aware BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very skeptical about this whole ad-supported revenue model. The idea of displaying ads based on ones location sounds appealing at first glance, but not every time I walk through Times Square am I in the mood &#8211; nor have the time &#8211; to get myself a fancy new toothbrush. Such technology could be perhaps more effective if the phone was aware that 1. I actually had time to go shopping 2. I actually wanted/needed to spend some money. I think services that are rich in traffic but hard to monetize on should be coupled with some other service that can subsidize the whole thing in exchange for the user base. Think tourism. Think social actions. Think peer pressure. Enough with this behavior-learning location-aware BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Huh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584690</link>
		<dc:creator>Huh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should cut them a break Robin!  Not every startup that doesn&#039;t get funding gives half a shit whether or not you know what happened if they have to shut down. Now, I can&#039;t wait till boot camp! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should cut them a break Robin!  Not every startup that doesn&#8217;t get funding gives half a shit whether or not you know what happened if they have to shut down. Now, I can&#8217;t wait till boot camp! <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BlogReader</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584685</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the legal reasons?  Let me guess: someone has a patent for &quot;matching a person with GPS coordinates and nearby businesses&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584679</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind, robin shut down my nobody&#039;s there on sunday theory</description>
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		<title>By: Robin Wauters</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584676</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Wauters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Service is effectively deadpooled, see post update.</description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584675</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a developer I can say with almost 100% certainty, that it&#039;s not intentional</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a developer I can say with almost 100% certainty, that it&#8217;s not intentional</p>
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		<title>By: Oy Vey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584667</link>
		<dc:creator>Oy Vey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their site is not just down, it is serving a blank / empty page.  Why not simply put a message that they are experiencing technical difficulties?  Poor business sense.

Give me a &quot;D&quot;; give me an &quot;E&quot;; give me and &quot;A&quot;, ...

DEADPOOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their site is not just down, it is serving a blank / empty page.  Why not simply put a message that they are experiencing technical difficulties?  Poor business sense.</p>
<p>Give me a &#8220;D&#8221;; give me an &#8220;E&#8221;; give me and &#8220;A&#8221;, &#8230;</p>
<p>DEADPOOL</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584660</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, that should have said I&#039;m developing new apps for Android and the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, that should have said I&#8217;m developing new apps for Android and the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584659</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoot, that&#039;s even worse. With all the VC available in SF, if they couldn&#039;t get any, that means something.

I myself am developing mobile apps for G1 and Android outside of my day job. If I don&#039;t secure VC, I will not restart a company in Cali. There are too many expenses like the franchise tax, ect... for individual people to bare a without large investment from multiple sources.

I shut my last business down about a month ago before the end of the year.

At any rate, through experience I have learned not to do a 2 man business. If others don&#039;t believe in your business plan neither will customers. It doesn&#039;t matter how good the idea or concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, that&#8217;s even worse. With all the VC available in SF, if they couldn&#8217;t get any, that means something.</p>
<p>I myself am developing mobile apps for G1 and Android outside of my day job. If I don&#8217;t secure VC, I will not restart a company in Cali. There are too many expenses like the franchise tax, ect&#8230; for individual people to bare a without large investment from multiple sources.</p>
<p>I shut my last business down about a month ago before the end of the year.</p>
<p>At any rate, through experience I have learned not to do a 2 man business. If others don&#8217;t believe in your business plan neither will customers. It doesn&#8217;t matter how good the idea or concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584655</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they don&#039;t have employees, genius. it is a 2 man operation without any outside funding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they don&#8217;t have employees, genius. it is a 2 man operation without any outside funding</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584646</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, you should know that in America, people generally don&#039;t work on New Years or on weekends.

Perhaps they are paranoid and won&#039;t give employees shell access at home.

Then again, perhaps they ran out of money, and are using remote employees that are simply unavailable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, you should know that in America, people generally don&#8217;t work on New Years or on weekends.</p>
<p>Perhaps they are paranoid and won&#8217;t give employees shell access at home.</p>
<p>Then again, perhaps they ran out of money, and are using remote employees that are simply unavailable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/04/is-apploop-fading-already/comment-page-1/#comment-2584631</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that Techcrunch calls every website that is launched a startup.  These early stage sites should have a different classification.  I would suggest &quot;project&quot;. It isn&#039;t at startup that has failed it is a &quot;project&quot; that was trying to become a startup then a viable company that has failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that Techcrunch calls every website that is launched a startup.  These early stage sites should have a different classification.  I would suggest &#8220;project&#8221;. It isn&#8217;t at startup that has failed it is a &#8220;project&#8221; that was trying to become a startup then a viable company that has failed.</p>
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