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By: MySpace e Facebook asfixiam Project Playlist a pedido da RIAA | Remixtures

MySpace e Facebook asfixiam Project Playlist a pedido da RIAA | Remixtures — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:34:40 +0000

[...] de ter demorado algum tempo mais, o Facebook lá acabou por ceder à pressão da RIAA. Afinal de contas, ninguém – nem mesmo Mark [...]

By: Ordreth

Ordreth — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 14:56:37 +0000

i think http://www.songarea.com is a good alternative for facebook and myspace playlists.It doesn’t host music files..

By: Facebook Folds In Face Of Massive Litigation, Bans Project Playlist | Fidicaro.net

Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:33:09 +0000

[...] Facebook remained silent even as music label insiders called them “irresponsible” and suggested litigation against [...]

By: Facbook Folds In Face Of Massive Litigation, To Disable Playlist

Facbook Folds In Face Of Massive Litigation, To Disable Playlist — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:44:32 +0000

[...] music service Project Playlist. Last Friday MySpace banned Project Playlist. But Facebook remained silent even as music label insiders called them “irresponsible” and suggested litigation against [...]

By: Music Ally | Blog Archive » MySpace bans Project Playlist… then Sony BMG signs a deal with it

Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:07:06 +0000

[...] Separate reports suggested that Facebook had been getting similar pressure, but had refused to remove Project Playlist from its service. [...]

By: Jameel G

Jameel G — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:00:01 +0000

At least there is http://www.flashwidgetz.com. They are still small so I doubt they will be blocked anytime soon.

By: obvious

obvious — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:41:29 +0000

Imeem should acquire Project Playlist to make them legitimate. The other option would be to watch Project Playlist self-implode. Either way, I agree, it’s not about the labels.

By: Brad

Brad — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:54:33 +0000

You should update Playlists’ funding to $23million. They raised a new round recently at that amount which should give them elbow room.

http://www.thes...raises-20m-what

By: Louwrens Oberholzer

Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:17:03 +0000

Nice post

By: Some Good News For Project Playlist - A Deal With Sony BMG

Some Good News For Project Playlist - A Deal With Sony BMG — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:20:56 +0000

[...] looks like embattled music service Project Playlist has someone other than Facebook in their [...]

By: TM

TM — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:30:11 +0000

Perhaps they’ll flood the market with hi-quality ISRC tagged files and PP will be designed to tabulate aggregate plays and submit reports like radio does.

By: bdb

bdb — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:22:35 +0000

Not true anymore, Mike. Project Playlist has moved to a model where they mirror and host most of the actual song files played with their widget on the Limelight CDN. If I were the labels, and I was trying to shut PP down, I’d start by using the DMCA to induce Limelight to take down their content.

By: rich

rich — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:58:30 +0000

Not only that. It is not a download service, it is a streaming service…

Facebook is not sreaming the playlist any more than the microsoft windows your computer is running on is.

By: thesubjective

thesubjective — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:43:07 +0000

Assuming FB “needs” a music solution, acquiring an existing player whose widgets are already heavily installed on FB (like PP) and has a deal with the labels (no like PP) would be the easiest path, it would seem that by dragging their feet FB is propping up PP and giving them much needed leverage to negotiate with the labels to get those deals. If FB takes them down, PP has little value to anyone. By supporting PP, FB is I am sure also getting favorable terms for a potential acquisition of PP. Remember that the labels truly need a stake in FB music much more than FB “needs” a music app. The labels want FB to pay some cash advances but I bet would be happy for the equity. PP is simply being used a conduit of negotiations between FB and the labels. If those talks break down and the labels don’t deal, FB can save face, wash it’s hands and come out looking like a hero by supporting their developer community. PP, until they get more traffic to their own site, have no choice but to hope for a FB acquisition. The real question comes down to if the future FBmusic wants to take on the liability of a solution which allows user uploads, and thus stores and streams rich media, or would prefer a solution like PP which simply enables discovering to links to third party streams. Clearly the later is ideal but will the labels go for it? With no mechanical royalty to collect on, not sure how the labels or publishers will make off like bandits in that scenario.

By: Socialmediamojo

Socialmediamojo — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:41:10 +0000

Actually, imeem is the biggest competitor to myspace music, and they were blocked by myspace almost 2 years ago. Since then imeem has become legal and I think there have been enough user complaints that imeem has been unblocked.

Projectplaylist originally sprang up as a clone of imeem but they avoided letting users upload music directly to their servers. When myspace blocked imeem, projectplaylist was the big beneficiary. In countries where myspace wasn’t the dominant online social network PP failed to take off and imeem remained #1

By: Yahoo

Yahoo — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:26:34 +0000

Конкурс для блоггеров от DRUGREVENUE с призовым фондом в 3000 долларов, спешите

By: Gary Heimstead

Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:45:49 +0000

In the 70’s and 80’s, HBO, Showtime, TBS, all of them were screaming because people were buying dishes and “stealing” their signals. The FCC said they had an obligation to secure their signals if they were going to use the Public airways to transport them. I know the music industry isn’t uploading their content to the private sites/directories that Project Playlist draws from, even though it’s being transported over the internet, but come on, secure your music if you don’t like it. That way I don’t have to listen to you whine… geez they’re pathetic…

By: Em

Em — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:35:47 +0000

Well said.

By: Very

Very — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:55:47 +0000

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By: Nick ONeill

Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:02:35 +0000

Stare ‘em down and go hard FB … everybody likes a fight … I seriously don’t see anything significant happening to Facebook on this one. FB has a pretty solid team of lawyers.

By: Joel Strellner

Joel Strellner — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:44:49 +0000

No, the DMCA protects him. Sites cannot be held liable for their users comments.

By: links for 2008-12-20 « 個人的な雑記

links for 2008-12-20 « 個人的な雑記 — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:03:10 +0000

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By: GREEDIS THEWORD

GREEDIS THEWORD — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:37:54 +0000

money for nothing..wait did i just copyright infringe by saying that? probably…jeez..project playlist is another “promotional” tool for recording artists and respected money sucking reps..now they are losing another way to possibly get more promotion, i can’t understand why if i have a playlist that promotes an artist..why can’t i ask them for money? how many purchases or downloads are started because of someone else having an artist/song that someone hears and likes?? should work both ways..i mean…nobody knows what i wipe my rear end with unless they ask me or i show them the package…..

By: Frank Abrams

Frank Abrams — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:46:57 +0000

Facebook is well on its way to establishing a new low standard as being totally devoid of business sense. Very low appreciation or respect of users, communities, early adopters, influencers ++

They closed, without notice, my Sinatra fan page that had 90,000 + fans w. songs that I host. no downloads allowed. details in this note:

http://www.face..._id=37979173957

I remember AOL and getting a CD in the mail every day; meaning I’m not impressed and doubt they have 1$ in net profit to date. I’m betting on google and microsoft.

I have a lot of stats on facebook user behavior in pages and groups inc. advertising, conversion, monetization — as I said I’m not impressed.

By: George

George — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:08:42 +0000

It seems that the biggest issue of this internet 2.0 generation will be copyright related. I’m not saying that Facebook is right at all, more that I think more needs to be done in this area. Just a thought, I’m not a smart guy.