Comments on: Skip The Double-Talk: Zapproved Turns Decisions Into ‘Yes’ Or ‘No’ Questions http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:06:26 -0800 hourly 1 By: Barb http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2671873 Barb Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:51:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2671873 Wow....I cannot believe that you do not see the benefit here. I have a heck of a time tracking our software developer when I have approved something in test to be moved to production and it never happens and a week later they tell me they did not get the email. Well now there is a tool to archive all the responses and it also nags the approver if they do not get it done by the date. I am going to use this when I am working on government contracts. Now I have something I can show them that they approved that scaffold engineering without having to go through hundreds (maybe thousands) of emails for the project. Wonderful project management tool. Sign up for the free time before you criticize! Outlook is really a poor project management tool. So much for having project management professionals on here. Oh yeah....the person that wrote an app but did not publish it. BS on that comment. You do not sound real creative. Wow….I cannot believe that you do not see the benefit here. I have a heck of a time tracking our software developer when I have approved something in test to be moved to production and it never happens and a week later they tell me they did not get the email. Well now there is a tool to archive all the responses and it also nags the approver if they do not get it done by the date. I am going to use this when I am working on government contracts. Now I have something I can show them that they approved that scaffold engineering without having to go through hundreds (maybe thousands) of emails for the project. Wonderful project management tool. Sign up for the free time before you criticize! Outlook is really a poor project management tool. So much for having project management professionals on here.
Oh yeah….the person that wrote an app but did not publish it. BS on that comment. You do not sound real creative.

]]> By: Powerful Simplicity « Zapproved Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2572881 Powerful Simplicity « Zapproved Blog Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:46:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2572881 [...] Its simple structure and process, not just its operation, is also powerful. It allows people to adopt it and adapt it easily. “It’s a simple concept, but it’s one that could easily help companies… by streamlining the decision-making process,” said TechCrunch’s Jason Kincaid in his post. [...] [...] Its simple structure and process, not just its operation, is also powerful. It allows people to adopt it and adapt it easily. “It’s a simple concept, but it’s one that could easily help companies… by streamlining the decision-making process,” said TechCrunch’s Jason Kincaid in his post. [...]

]]> By: ido http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2568626 ido Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:16:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2568626 agree. how is this service any different or useful than what MS already uses??? agree. how is this service any different or useful than what MS already uses???

]]> By: Group Decision-making…made easy » Hiconomics http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2568462 Group Decision-making…made easy » Hiconomics Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:46:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2568462 [...] Worth a try… read more here and here. [...] [...] Worth a try… read more here and here. [...]

]]> By: Evny http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2568150 Evny Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:20:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2568150 Exactly.... I can't believe this gets covered... Its an online poll... big deal... Exactly…. I can’t believe this gets covered…

Its an online poll… big deal…

]]> By: Steve Bomber http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567874 Steve Bomber Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:34:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567874 I wrote a similar application in the time it took you to read this comment. I wrote a similar application in the time it took you to read this comment.

]]> By: Matthew http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567870 Matthew Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:32:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567870 As per another comment above, the site is for stupid chimps... @Christos --good intentions... trying to understand the reasons behind this post. Just a waste of time. As per another comment above, the site is for stupid chimps…

@Christos –good intentions… trying to understand the reasons behind this post. Just a waste of time.

]]> By: Victor http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567862 Victor Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:28:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567862 ... the site is for chimps. Stupid chimps. … the site is for chimps. Stupid chimps.

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="762488660">Christos Kallinteris</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567857 Christos Kallinteris Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:21:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567857 The Tech industry must be in even more trouble than we thought if TC is reduced to writing about this and calling it innovation. Maybe it's time for a Silicon Valley bailout. This is worse than a solution looking for a problem: It's snake-oil looking for a dupe. Well known snake oil at that so your dupe better have been born on Mars, yesterday. As Jen said: Outlook does this already. I'm sure Lotus does too. Even if they didn't you could just ask people to reply with yes/no answers and you'd get the same result: a lot of arguing. Because if you were in a position to enforce a yes/no answer you're probably in a position to just decide on the issue unilaterally and be done with it. Not to mention it's shoddy communication anyway: a plain yes answer may have merit but a no without a reason is not getting you anywhere. Yes a lot of arguing is for argument's sake but a lot of objections are reasonable and some can be addressed unless of course you were stupid enough to insist on a yes/no answer. OK. That's enough. I want the last 5 minutes of my life back. Who do I sue? Chris The Tech industry must be in even more trouble than we thought if TC is reduced to writing about this and calling it innovation. Maybe it’s time for a Silicon Valley bailout.

This is worse than a solution looking for a problem: It’s snake-oil looking for a dupe. Well known snake oil at that so your dupe better have been born on Mars, yesterday.

As Jen said: Outlook does this already. I’m sure Lotus does too. Even if they didn’t you could just ask people to reply with yes/no answers and you’d get the same result: a lot of arguing.

Because if you were in a position to enforce a yes/no answer you’re probably in a position to just decide on the issue unilaterally and be done with it.

Not to mention it’s shoddy communication anyway: a plain yes answer may have merit but a no without a reason is not getting you anywhere. Yes a lot of arguing is for argument’s sake but a lot of objections are reasonable and some can be addressed unless of course you were stupid enough to insist on a yes/no answer.

OK. That’s enough. I want the last 5 minutes of my life back. Who do I sue?

Chris

]]> By: Jen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567711 Jen Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567711 Um. MS Outlook has voting buttons that already do this exact same thing. Um. MS Outlook has voting buttons that already do this exact same thing.

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="537534124">Caner Bayraktar</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567685 Caner Bayraktar Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567685 Fail Fail

]]> By: Screen Sleuth http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567665 Screen Sleuth Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:06:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567665 Kind of expensive for what it is, but an interesting idea. Efficient for the simpler decisions, but not as much so for more complex decision-making. Kind of expensive for what it is, but an interesting idea. Efficient for the simpler decisions, but not as much so for more complex decision-making.

]]> By: cameron http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567663 cameron Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:02:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567663 FAIL FAIL

]]> By: Snurt http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567662 Snurt Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:01:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567662 Useless for dealing with small numbers of well organized efficient types. Hugely useful in dealing with indecisive jerks, like those who have to approve a press release, a corporate event, or agree to a kitchen remodel schedule, because it forces an unambiguous decision and makes clear to everyone who hasn't yet cast their vote. As a small business owner a decision today is worth more and costs me less than a decision tomorrow. And the audit trail heads off future arguments. See the money trail? This one is a winner. Useless for dealing with small numbers of well organized efficient types.

Hugely useful in dealing with indecisive jerks, like those who have to approve a press release, a corporate event, or agree to a kitchen remodel schedule, because it forces an unambiguous decision and makes clear to everyone who hasn’t yet cast their vote. As a small business owner a decision today is worth more and costs me less than a decision tomorrow. And the audit trail heads off future arguments.

See the money trail? This one is a winner.

]]> By: Karter http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567642 Karter Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:34:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567642 This is the worst app I've seen generate news - contrary to what it actually is - and I was one of the many who read the headlines / article - signed up and got disappointed. It doesn't look like these guys are vc funded. This is the worst app I’ve seen generate news – contrary to what it actually is – and I was one of the many who read the headlines / article – signed up and got disappointed.

It doesn’t look like these guys are vc funded.

]]> By: WildZBill http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567625 WildZBill Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:11:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567625 Deny Deny

]]> By: HmmConvenient http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567619 HmmConvenient Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:04:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567619 Ok, so this is the type of nonsense that gets funded? Are You Serious? Ok, so this is the type of nonsense that gets funded? Are You Serious?

]]> By: Metricsman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567613 Metricsman Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:53:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567613 u gotta be kidding. This is news-worthy? This is a business? Totally lame, and totally misses the point on decision making. u gotta be kidding. This is news-worthy? This is a business?

Totally lame, and totally misses the point on decision making.

]]> By: Maksim http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567607 Maksim Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:46:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567607 This actually sounds like a step backwards for human developers. After all, part of the difference between being human versus being a computer, is that humans can say more than yes/no based on a summation of some factors. If whoever is conducting the survey wants to just classify ideas as negative or positive, he should just build a simulator, and run it on his desktop. If he's sending them out to get input, a yes/no answer is pretty crummy input. This actually sounds like a step backwards for human developers. After all, part of the difference between being human versus being a computer, is that humans can say more than yes/no based on a summation of some factors. If whoever is conducting the survey wants to just classify ideas as negative or positive, he should just build a simulator, and run it on his desktop. If he’s sending them out to get input, a yes/no answer is pretty crummy input.

]]> By: Cipper Tech http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567601 Cipper Tech Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:39:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567601 I love this simple tool, cool. I love this simple tool, cool.

]]> By: Jason Z http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567583 Jason Z Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:15:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567583 Zapproved {seesmic_video:{"url_thumbnail":{"value":"http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/VqflcmvhzD_th1.jpg"}"title":{"value":"Zapproved  "}"videoUri":{"value":"http://www.seesmic.com/video/KOBFWEl9iT"}}} Zapproved {seesmic_video:{”url_thumbnail”:{”value”:”http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/VqflcmvhzD_th1.jpg”}”title”:{”value”:”Zapproved  ”}”videoUri”:{”value”:”http://www.seesmic.com/video/KOBFWEl9iT”}}}

]]> By: PanMan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/15/skip-the-double-talk-zapproved-turns-decisions-into-yes-or-no-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-2567577 PanMan Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:05:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=33435#comment-2567577 I'd say another risk is that both proponents and opponents of a certain goal start their own polls, with different wording. IT's easy to come up with an example: * Should we try to save the earth? (YAY) * Should we put big breaks on the economy for some unproven ecologystudies (NAY!). I’d say another risk is that both proponents and opponents of a certain goal start their own polls, with different wording. IT’s easy to come up with an example:
* Should we try to save the earth? (YAY)
* Should we put big breaks on the economy for some unproven ecologystudies (NAY!).

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