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		<title>By: Zattoo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2569560</link>
		<dc:creator>Zattoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to the Hollywood storyline: a 4.8 earthquark hit Copenhagen then Stein Bagger touched down from LA. 

The first earthquark this size ever!! Any good Hollywood screenwriter will make the connection....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to the Hollywood storyline: a 4.8 earthquark hit Copenhagen then Stein Bagger touched down from LA. </p>
<p>The first earthquark this size ever!! Any good Hollywood screenwriter will make the connection&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: 6ctwitams</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2566619</link>
		<dc:creator>6ctwitams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I can have that 170M...s I might not be threatened just with 30times guns from fraud people in habitual practice like Him...I could be their deadliest treat at 100times....But with my face on IT business..I&#039;m afraid business as usual could never be a fraud but suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I can have that 170M&#8230;s I might not be threatened just with 30times guns from fraud people in habitual practice like Him&#8230;I could be their deadliest treat at 100times&#8230;.But with my face on IT business..I&#8217;m afraid business as usual could never be a fraud but suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Portable TV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Portable TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm....super sorry.....great.....does that cut it for $170MM in lies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;.super sorry&#8230;..great&#8230;..does that cut it for $170MM in lies?</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2565218</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge, there&#039;s no way that&#039;s the reason. Arrington thinks like these people. He knows the real reason. So what is it Mike??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge, there&#8217;s no way that&#8217;s the reason. Arrington thinks like these people. He knows the real reason. So what is it Mike??</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2565212</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If executive compensation is based on purported company income, the *executives* have lots of incentive to falsify earnings.
What&#039;s good for the goose is not good for the gander in this case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If executive compensation is based on purported company income, the *executives* have lots of incentive to falsify earnings.<br />
What&#8217;s good for the goose is not good for the gander in this case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roundup: Layoffs hit Flickr, Apple&#8217;s 3D desktop, and more &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2565177</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundup: Layoffs hit Flickr, Apple&#8217;s 3D desktop, and more &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] executive Stein Bagger turned himself in to California police after disappearing in Dubai. Now Bagger tells the Danish press that he&#8217;s sorry for making up $170 million worth of revenue.  Energy secretary candidate is a big fan of efficiency and tech &#8212; Berkeley physicist Steven [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] executive Stein Bagger turned himself in to California police after disappearing in Dubai. Now Bagger tells the Danish press that he&#8217;s sorry for making up $170 million worth of revenue.  Energy secretary candidate is a big fan of efficiency and tech &#8212; Berkeley physicist Steven [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2565006</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He would not say who threatened him, but told that they would have money from him. &quot;

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/06/it-factorys-bagger-arrested-in-california-after-worldwide-manhunt/

Well, in your last post about him, you claimed that he had paid a motorcycle gang(Hell&#039;s Angels) to beat the crap out of somebody he didn&#039;t like.

Don&#039;t you see them trying to extort him for years after doing so in exchange for not telling anybody about it?

I can believe he was threatened. I can even see that gang being mad at you personally for mentioning them on a forum that sees 1.7 million readers. They&#039;re like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He would not say who threatened him, but told that they would have money from him. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/06/it-factorys-bagger-arrested-in-california-after-worldwide-manhunt/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/06/it-factorys-bagger-arrested-in-california-after-worldwide-manhunt/'>http://www.tech...ldwide-manhunt/</a></p>
<p>Well, in your last post about him, you claimed that he had paid a motorcycle gang(Hell&#8217;s Angels) to beat the crap out of somebody he didn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you see them trying to extort him for years after doing so in exchange for not telling anybody about it?</p>
<p>I can believe he was threatened. I can even see that gang being mad at you personally for mentioning them on a forum that sees 1.7 million readers. They&#8217;re like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2565004</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;90% of IT Factory’s revenues may have been nothing but lies&quot;

Mike, this is Chris @ Culver City, why would you ever report more than you make?

That&#039;s asking the IRS to come overtax you for 90% over your real earnings???

Aside from the fact that he was probably on crack at the time, what would motivate people to pay more in taxes by over-reporting earnings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;90% of IT Factory’s revenues may have been nothing but lies&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike, this is Chris @ Culver City, why would you ever report more than you make?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s asking the IRS to come overtax you for 90% over your real earnings???</p>
<p>Aside from the fact that he was probably on crack at the time, what would motivate people to pay more in taxes by over-reporting earnings?</p>
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		<title>By: アメリカで自首したデンマークのCEO、「詐欺は脅されてやった。今は後悔している」</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564991</link>
		<dc:creator>アメリカで自首したデンマークのCEO、「詐欺は脅されてやった。今は後悔している」</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] デンマークを代表するテクノロジー系スタートアップだったIT Factoryの末路は大いに注目を集める話題になっているが（ハリウッドで映画化されるかも）、 詳細が次第に明らかになってきた。去る11月末、有名なCEO、Stein Baggerがドバイで失踪した。やがて、Baggerは行き詰まった会社と妻子を置き去りにして、ニューヨークに逃亡したことが判明した。Baggerはその後友達から車とクレジットカードを借り、はるばる地上を走ってカリフォルニアにやってきた。で、なぜか、その直後に地元の警察に自首した。デンマークのメディアはBaggerに接触してインタビュー（英語への翻訳はこちら）することに成功している。 「いったいなぜ4年間に$170M（1億7000万ドル）にも上るの巨額の粉飾決算（IT Factoryの売り上げの90%は粉飾だったのではないかと疑われている）をしたのか？」というのが最初の質問だった。彼は、「自分や自分の家族を殺すと脅されていた。25回から30回も銃を突きつけられて脅された」と述べた。しかし相手の名前は明らかにしなかった。脅した相手は金を取ろうとしていたという。こういうことをする連中はみんな捕まってから後悔するわけだが。[原文へ]（翻訳：Namekawa, U）  ShowListings(&quot;arc3&quot;);  ShowListings(&quot;arc2&quot;);      AddClipsUrl = &#039;http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20081212it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/&#039;; AddClipsTitle = &#039;アメリカで自首したデンマークのCEO、「詐欺は脅されてやった。今は後悔している」&#039;; AddClipsId = &#039;2CBE02C952CFE&#039;; AddClipsBcolor=&#039;#78BE44&#039;; AddClipsNcolor=&#039;#D1E9C0&#039;; AddClipsTcolor=&#039;#666666&#039;; AddClipsType=&#039;1&#039;; AddClipsVerticalAlign=&#039;middle&#039;;    次の投稿へ 前の投稿へ     トラックバック [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] デンマークを代表するテクノロジー系スタートアップだったIT Factoryの末路は大いに注目を集める話題になっているが（ハリウッドで映画化されるかも）、 詳細が次第に明らかになってきた。去る11月末、有名なCEO、Stein Baggerがドバイで失踪した。やがて、Baggerは行き詰まった会社と妻子を置き去りにして、ニューヨークに逃亡したことが判明した。Baggerはその後友達から車とクレジットカードを借り、はるばる地上を走ってカリフォルニアにやってきた。で、なぜか、その直後に地元の警察に自首した。デンマークのメディアはBaggerに接触してインタビュー（英語への翻訳はこちら）することに成功している。 「いったいなぜ4年間に$170M（1億7000万ドル）にも上るの巨額の粉飾決算（IT Factoryの売り上げの90%は粉飾だったのではないかと疑われている）をしたのか？」というのが最初の質問だった。彼は、「自分や自分の家族を殺すと脅されていた。25回から30回も銃を突きつけられて脅された」と述べた。しかし相手の名前は明らかにしなかった。脅した相手は金を取ろうとしていたという。こういうことをする連中はみんな捕まってから後悔するわけだが。[原文へ]（翻訳：Namekawa, U）  ShowListings(&#8221;arc3&#8243;);  ShowListings(&#8221;arc2&#8243;);      AddClipsUrl = &#8216;http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20081212it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/&#8217;; AddClipsTitle = &#8216;アメリカで自首したデンマークのCEO、「詐欺は脅されてやった。今は後悔している」&#8217;; AddClipsId = &#8216;2CBE02C952CFE&#8217;; AddClipsBcolor=&#8217;#78BE44&#8242;; AddClipsNcolor=&#8217;#D1E9C0&#8242;; AddClipsTcolor=&#8217;#666666&#8242;; AddClipsType=&#8217;1&#8242;; AddClipsVerticalAlign=&#8217;middle&#8217;;    次の投稿へ 前の投稿へ     トラックバック [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tech-PR</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564852</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech-PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This shows how a recession can be bring out a beast within us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shows how a recession can be bring out a beast within us!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564788</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In America, investment loss is considered capital loss.  You write this off as a business loss or as an income loss in your tax filing.  There&#039;s no need for violence.

The government takes taxes to provide protection to any human in the event situation like this occur.  

The people who are threatening might be laundering money.  That&#039;s a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In America, investment loss is considered capital loss.  You write this off as a business loss or as an income loss in your tax filing.  There&#8217;s no need for violence.</p>
<p>The government takes taxes to provide protection to any human in the event situation like this occur.  </p>
<p>The people who are threatening might be laundering money.  That&#8217;s a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564781</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds pretty rough. It&#039;s too bad that threatening people with guns isn&#039;t illegal in Denmark, or else he could have called the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds pretty rough. It&#8217;s too bad that threatening people with guns isn&#8217;t illegal in Denmark, or else he could have called the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564779</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mob justice is ugly.  This is a good example from the comments seen so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mob justice is ugly.  This is a good example from the comments seen so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Bjørn Petersen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564758</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Bjørn Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the question is: Are these crocodile or real tears?

There is a new episode of this every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the question is: Are these crocodile or real tears?</p>
<p>There is a new episode of this every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Foxinni</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564704</link>
		<dc:creator>Foxinni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about this being danish. But someone compiled a funny version of what Baggers facebook feed might look like.

Check it out here:
http://www.whattheblog.dk/stein-baggers-facebook-feed/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about this being danish. But someone compiled a funny version of what Baggers facebook feed might look like.</p>
<p>Check it out here:<br />
<a href="http://www.whattheblog.dk/stein-baggers-facebook-feed/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.whattheblog.dk/stein-baggers-facebook-feed/'>http://www.what...-facebook-feed/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex Capehart</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564701</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Capehart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way this is unfolding you could open the movie with Stefan (Mr. Gizmondo) crashing his Ferrari in Malibu. 

Not to make light of this financial bilking but 10 to 1 they would use &quot;Hollywood OS&quot; on every laptop screen shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way this is unfolding you could open the movie with Stefan (Mr. Gizmondo) crashing his Ferrari in Malibu. </p>
<p>Not to make light of this financial bilking but 10 to 1 they would use &#8220;Hollywood OS&#8221; on every laptop screen shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Minott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/12/it-factorys-bagger-super-sorry-for-the-massive-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-2564696</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Minott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does sound like a hollywood movie.  I wonder how many other CEOs will go on the lamb come 2009.  There could be alot of cooked books in this economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does sound like a hollywood movie.  I wonder how many other CEOs will go on the lamb come 2009.  There could be alot of cooked books in this economy.</p>
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