Comments on: ArenaFest Aims To Bring Social Networking, Unsigned Bands (And Lacrosse!) To Live Events

By: Kirt

Kirt — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:58:04 +0000

I am an artist, who is on Sellaband and I would like to clarify: There are many artists that are still under the $50,000 mark, so $3 million have been invested in artists and 1.5 million have been used to record albums. Please do your research before commenting.

By: Bob Slayer

Bob Slayer — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:14:14 +0000

A late reply to Shannon’s comment

It is not simply pay to play – the bands get a lot more out of it – an album for starters – that is non recoupable (i.e. they do not have to pay back the recording budget out of record sales)

The figures add up
$10,000 goes on printing and sending the album out to all the believers – $5k for Sellaband and $5k as a contribution towards marketing – so the production budget is around 30k which as you point out is about right to be able to make a top recording…

SellaBand has its detractors and sceptics – and they are right SellaBand is not the whole solution for bands – but for a proactive artist this can make the difference between breaking even on a record and making money… and maybe starting some momentum which will see an artist achieve much larger things.

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By: Will Higgins

Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:26:48 +0000

Yea yea, lacrosse, cool! Fastest growing eh? Cool, I guess. What about rugby!?

By: Shannon Barrett

Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:49:04 +0000

I’m sure that ArenaFest will make plenty of money but as someone in a working and currently unsigned band their idea is nothing new. For band it’s called Pay-to-Play.

Here’s how it usually works – the company rolls into town spamming all the local bands via myspace, etc. The bands are then given 200 tickets to sell to their fans. In Dallas, most unsigned bands are hard pressed to get folks to come out for $10 let alone $27. Adding a sports component tweaks the model but ultimately it’s the same thing. The bands are doing the legwork of bringing out people.

My point is that most of these “we help unsigned bands” deals are scams that actually don’t benefit the artists. Dallas has had several of these sort of outfits roll through town – by the second year most of the bands get wise to it and avoid it like the plague. The bands that are actually playing out at the local venues on a regular basis see this thing a mile-away and don’t even bother.

Also the numbers for Sellaband seem really screwy to me. Unsigned bands can make an amazing record for $25,000. Even if you add another $10,000 for an affordable producer you’re looking at $35k. With Sellabands numbers they’ve got some crazy math happening: 3 million / 30 albums = $100,000 per album. That is insanely expensive for an “unsigned” band… i’ve not seen their contract but I would bet that the band is not seeing even have of that $100k.

And to clarify, I’m not a bitter failed musician angry at the world. I’m just a failed musician who is also has a techy day job.

By: Pavan K

Pavan K — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:16:15 +0000

Anything that gets people more interactive, and more importantly – active, is a very good thing.

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acai berry diet — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:39:33 +0000

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By: MerchantEyes

MerchantEyes — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:30:36 +0000

Imo this will only work it the music is good and well advertised. The side-events will not fill the arena I am afraid. Every event would need a top act of name and fame to attract the crowds this initiative needs.

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By: tom

tom — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:06:23 +0000

They will find out that the only people who will show up besides the contestants will be their small group of friends, hardly enough to fill an “arena”.

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Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:10:15 +0000

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By: Will

Will — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:13:21 +0000

considering that I played lacrosse in highscool and college, as well as in a band, this is friggin awesome!

By: Mrs. Cleaver

Mrs. Cleaver — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:31:43 +0000

I have to say there is a pronounced new tone at Techcrunch. I would call it mature and reflective, versus the old headlines which were sensational, shallow and impetuous. So, I turn on the RSS feed again (big deal).

Whatever you’re doing Eric, taking Prozac or something, this is a lot better. Leave the fake controversy creation to the monologues on talk radio. This is a place for serious geeks, not fanboys and wannabees.

By: worthy

worthy — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:37:00 +0000

Even that I don’t like flash, this one is pretty cool.

But guys, get rid of those flash entries!

By: Abhishek

Abhishek — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:12:26 +0000

I think its a great idea

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