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	<title>Comments on: Tesla Wants A Piece Of The Hypothetical Auto Bailout Fund</title>
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		<title>By: The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tesla Worth More Than Half A Billion Dollars After Daimler Investment</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tesla Worth More Than Half A Billion Dollars After Daimler Investment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and the post money valuation is $550 million. Our source also says that Tesla’s application for $350 million in federal loans has been informally approved and will also be announced [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tesla Worth More Than Half A Billion Dollars After Daimler Investment &#124; CHARGED's Digital Lifestyle at Work or Play</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tesla Worth More Than Half A Billion Dollars After Daimler Investment &#124; CHARGED's Digital Lifestyle at Work or Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 02:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the post money valuation is $550 million. Our source also says that Tesla&#8217;s application for $350 million in federal loans has been informally approved and will also be announced [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tesla Worth A Half Billion Dollars After Daimler Investment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tesla Worth A Half Billion Dollars After Daimler Investment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the post money valuation is $550 million. Our source also says that Tesla&#8217;s application for $350 million in federal loans has been informally approved and will also be announced [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cleantech Crunched &#171; Clean Tech News</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/18/tesla-wants-a-piece-of-the-hypothetical-auto-bailout-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2678146</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleantech Crunched &#171; Clean Tech News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - for all intents and purposes looking for a bailout. But at least they&#8217;re shipping now, sort of. 100 cars I think? Good money, if the margin is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Voltron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voltron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to know how this car has been functioning, Jason. You had it four days. I had mine for a week and the motor completely failed. 

It&#039;s a dangerous defect because the car just stops driving. On the freeway, it could be a death trap, because the regenerative braking slows the car down much more quickly than a conventional car.

The car is a lemon. It was very fun to drive for the few days I had it, but clearly, Musk is more about having a car look great than be safe.

Anyone driving one of these is a beta tester. It&#039;s one thing to beta test a new piece of software, but you don&#039;t drive software at freeway speeds.

Also, the car is nowhere as near as energy efficient as claimed. It&#039;s really false advertising. The battery and its charger runs constantly even when the car is off and regardless of whether it has been driven for days.

Customer service is abyssmal. I think I am seeing a company that will implode. It makes sense that Musk, whose Paypal is quite anti-customer and whose SpaceX, whose rockets explode on takeoff, show us where he is going with Tesla.

No regard for the customers, and products that explode. Scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to know how this car has been functioning, Jason. You had it four days. I had mine for a week and the motor completely failed. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a dangerous defect because the car just stops driving. On the freeway, it could be a death trap, because the regenerative braking slows the car down much more quickly than a conventional car.</p>
<p>The car is a lemon. It was very fun to drive for the few days I had it, but clearly, Musk is more about having a car look great than be safe.</p>
<p>Anyone driving one of these is a beta tester. It&#8217;s one thing to beta test a new piece of software, but you don&#8217;t drive software at freeway speeds.</p>
<p>Also, the car is nowhere as near as energy efficient as claimed. It&#8217;s really false advertising. The battery and its charger runs constantly even when the car is off and regardless of whether it has been driven for days.</p>
<p>Customer service is abyssmal. I think I am seeing a company that will implode. It makes sense that Musk, whose Paypal is quite anti-customer and whose SpaceX, whose rockets explode on takeoff, show us where he is going with Tesla.</p>
<p>No regard for the customers, and products that explode. Scary.</p>
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		<title>By: kristie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send your comments to your Senators and Representatives in Washington.  Innovators like Tesla are doing more for advancing change in the automotive industry than the old &quot;Detroit&quot; dinosaurs.  The American public should never have had to bail out the auto industry and the refusal of auto execs to retool and bring non-oil and gas dependent vehicles to the market place is reprehensible.  I say bail out Tesla so it can continue its efforts.  And if we must bail out the auto industry, make them devote two-thirds of their production to fully electric consumer cars.  They can license the technology from Tesla if need be.  So, whether you agree with me or not, write Washington DC and let them know what you want!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send your comments to your Senators and Representatives in Washington.  Innovators like Tesla are doing more for advancing change in the automotive industry than the old &#8220;Detroit&#8221; dinosaurs.  The American public should never have had to bail out the auto industry and the refusal of auto execs to retool and bring non-oil and gas dependent vehicles to the market place is reprehensible.  I say bail out Tesla so it can continue its efforts.  And if we must bail out the auto industry, make them devote two-thirds of their production to fully electric consumer cars.  They can license the technology from Tesla if need be.  So, whether you agree with me or not, write Washington DC and let them know what you want!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of information on how to build an electric car, including cost cutting measures and design tips, can be found on Frank Didik&#039;s website at: www.didik.com/didik_ev.htm.   In particular, check out the section entitled   &quot;How to Build an Electric Car&quot;,  &quot;Didik Turtle or How to build a two person electric vehicle in 14 hours&quot; and  &quot;Critical and accurate assessment of electric vehicles&quot;.     He is the first to truly mention the pro&#039;s and con&#039;s of electric cars and an excellent history directory of electric cars, starting in the 1800&#039;s.   Many years ago, Didik was the found of the Electric Car Society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of information on how to build an electric car, including cost cutting measures and design tips, can be found on Frank Didik&#8217;s website at: <a href="http://www.didik.com/didik_ev.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.didik.com/didik_ev.htm'>http://www.didi...om/didik_ev.htm</a>.   In particular, check out the section entitled   &#8220;How to Build an Electric Car&#8221;,  &#8220;Didik Turtle or How to build a two person electric vehicle in 14 hours&#8221; and  &#8220;Critical and accurate assessment of electric vehicles&#8221;.     He is the first to truly mention the pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s of electric cars and an excellent history directory of electric cars, starting in the 1800&#8217;s.   Many years ago, Didik was the found of the Electric Car Society.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike Eze: Dr. Strangelove &#38; Loving the Recession &#124; Nuanda.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/18/tesla-wants-a-piece-of-the-hypothetical-auto-bailout-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2553876</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike Eze: Dr. Strangelove &#38; Loving the Recession &#124; Nuanda.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yes, bailouts. Plural. Apparently, the auto industry had pangs of jealousy when the financial companies started getting some help, and now they want in on the action. The Big Three - GM, Ford, and Chrysler - are asking for billion in cheap loans from the government. (Tesla, the barely-5-year-old electric car company, wants a 0 million slice.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yes, bailouts. Plural. Apparently, the auto industry had pangs of jealousy when the financial companies started getting some help, and now they want in on the action. The Big Three &#8211; GM, Ford, and Chrysler &#8211; are asking for billion in cheap loans from the government. (Tesla, the barely-5-year-old electric car company, wants a 0 million slice.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: update newsCalacanis Rips NY Times’ Stross Over Tesla Editorial &#124; 82123</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/18/tesla-wants-a-piece-of-the-hypothetical-auto-bailout-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2551739</link>
		<dc:creator>update newsCalacanis Rips NY Times’ Stross Over Tesla Editorial &#124; 82123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a functioning concept car&#8221; and suggests it would be foolish of the government to grant it a loan under a 2007 Federal loan program designed specifically to encourage development of vehicles that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Calacanis Rips NY Times’ Stross Over Tesla Editorial &#124; News Information Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calacanis Rips NY Times’ Stross Over Tesla Editorial &#124; News Information Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a functioning concept car&#8221; and suggests it would be foolish of the government to grant it a loan under a 2007 Federal loan program designed specifically to encourage development of vehicles that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Calacanis Rips NY Times&#8217; Stross Over Tesla Editorial</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/18/tesla-wants-a-piece-of-the-hypothetical-auto-bailout-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2551539</link>
		<dc:creator>Calacanis Rips NY Times&#8217; Stross Over Tesla Editorial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a functioning concept car&#8221; and suggests it would be foolish of the government to grant it a loan under a 2007 Federal loan program designed specifically to encourage development of vehicles that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Remortgage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remortgage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we really need a new american car company?</description>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/18/tesla-wants-a-piece-of-the-hypothetical-auto-bailout-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2544649</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you guys being so ignorant about this issue. We need a new American car company. with new socially responsible management, Tesla&#039;s technology is the best in the world. I&#039;d rather give a billion to  Tesla, let them take over a GM plant in Detroit, and start building $20k electric cars, with tax breaks for those who buy them. We could actually save the economy and the planet instead of letting them waste away while we argue over who&#039;s richer or more stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you guys being so ignorant about this issue. We need a new American car company. with new socially responsible management, Tesla&#8217;s technology is the best in the world. I&#8217;d rather give a billion to  Tesla, let them take over a GM plant in Detroit, and start building $20k electric cars, with tax breaks for those who buy them. We could actually save the economy and the planet instead of letting them waste away while we argue over who&#8217;s richer or more stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Loans and More Loans&#8230; Please Do Not Use the Word Bailout &#124; Only Hybrids</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/18/tesla-wants-a-piece-of-the-hypothetical-auto-bailout-fund/comment-page-1/#comment-2543555</link>
		<dc:creator>Loans and More Loans&#8230; Please Do Not Use the Word Bailout &#124; Only Hybrids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] loan (very frugal of them!), while GM and Chrysler did not disclose how much they want (found via TechCrunch). Ford plans on applying (or has already done so) by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] loan (very frugal of them!), while GM and Chrysler did not disclose how much they want (found via TechCrunch). Ford plans on applying (or has already done so) by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ex Teslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex Teslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG Sorry to have to say this.. Elon Musk and his FAT EGO do not deserve any funds.    He is the one that took the company down the path of destruction.     He is just worried now cause his soon to be ex wife is going to rape his accounts for half he owns.     SORRY TESLA..... too bad so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG Sorry to have to say this.. Elon Musk and his FAT EGO do not deserve any funds.    He is the one that took the company down the path of destruction.     He is just worried now cause his soon to be ex wife is going to rape his accounts for half he owns.     SORRY TESLA&#8230;.. too bad so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: michael koontz</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael koontz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CREATE A FAMILY CEDAN/ASK 4 GOVERNMENT INTEREST/FUNDING/WAVE OF FUTURE TRANSPORTATION...............THE TIME IS TOO SEEK THE INTEREST OFF THIS COUNTRY/4 NEW DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE TECH.......NOT A BAILOUT.......!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CREATE A FAMILY CEDAN/ASK 4 GOVERNMENT INTEREST/FUNDING/WAVE OF FUTURE TRANSPORTATION&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;THE TIME IS TOO SEEK THE INTEREST OFF THIS COUNTRY/4 NEW DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE TECH&#8230;&#8230;.NOT A BAILOUT&#8230;&#8230;.!</p>
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		<title>By: vonnb</title>
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		<dc:creator>vonnb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say give Tesla and other &quot;new&quot; car companies $1 billion each. We have thrown a trillion at these finance fools and Detroit is going to burn thru whatever cash the government gives them. Give Tesla $1 billion and maybe they can realize economies of scale and bring the tech to the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say give Tesla and other &#8220;new&#8221; car companies $1 billion each. We have thrown a trillion at these finance fools and Detroit is going to burn thru whatever cash the government gives them. Give Tesla $1 billion and maybe they can realize economies of scale and bring the tech to the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Martin was referring to the fact that GM has said that it will be out of cash by January. And that even if they received the full $25B, with their current burn rate of $2B per month (GM&#039;s estimates), that they&#039;ll be in exactly the same situation in a little over two years---unless they find some miracle that will pull them out of their current tailspin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Martin was referring to the fact that GM has said that it will be out of cash by January. And that even if they received the full $25B, with their current burn rate of $2B per month (GM&#8217;s estimates), that they&#8217;ll be in exactly the same situation in a little over two years&#8212;unless they find some miracle that will pull them out of their current tailspin.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yeah I think they do, a fast, trendy, eco friendly car. People go nuts for the Prius and it&#039;s not even that eco-friendly compared to good diesels or that fast. I think need to sell it in Europe, would sell loads here.

Though they have two problems - they need to spend a lot of R&amp;D, but funding is probably tight and they are basically selling a luxury product in a down market which is hard (though Apple seem ok so far)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yeah I think they do, a fast, trendy, eco friendly car. People go nuts for the Prius and it&#8217;s not even that eco-friendly compared to good diesels or that fast. I think need to sell it in Europe, would sell loads here.</p>
<p>Though they have two problems &#8211; they need to spend a lot of R&amp;D, but funding is probably tight and they are basically selling a luxury product in a down market which is hard (though Apple seem ok so far)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Tom I&#039;m able to get 200 miles on a charge fairly easily with my Tesla Roadster. My commute is five miles a day, and with another trip or two thrown in a day (i.e. lunch,dinner, meeting, movie, whatever) that means I can charge it every 4-5 days. 

I just had my charger put in yesterday and with the low speed charger it takes 6-8 hours for a full charge and with high-speed charger it takes 3-4 hours. 

I actually think I&#039;ll never have to buy/drive another car since I only do two or three road trips a year (i.e. San Diego), and when I do I can us my old Mini Cooper. 

95% of folks drive less than 100 miles a day... so the Tesla 2.0 at 60k and 3.0 at 30k would do the trick. Additionally, battery life is getting better and better, so my guess is they will be able to get the range from 220+ to 350-400+ in two years. When the car gets to 400 miles a charge and under 50k then it really starts to make sense because the gas savings of 2-3k a year pays for the additional 15k of the car (or something like that).

As a customer of the Tesla for four days I can tell you the car is a dream (as it should be for 120k) and a lot of fun. as much fun as it is, it&#039;s not a toy either.... it&#039;s very practical. It has a trunk, it&#039;s comfortable, and it&#039;s got more range than I&#039;ll every use.

Nothing would be better than our country getting off foreign oil. That&#039;s the number one reason I bought (second would be the environment, third would be it&#039;s a sexy car). we can&#039;t be involved with the backwards, human-rights violators in the middle east who repress the basic rights of women, gays, and journalists/bloggers.

Getting an EV is a political statement for me. We have to kick the oil habit.

all the best, jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Tom I&#8217;m able to get 200 miles on a charge fairly easily with my Tesla Roadster. My commute is five miles a day, and with another trip or two thrown in a day (i.e. lunch,dinner, meeting, movie, whatever) that means I can charge it every 4-5 days. </p>
<p>I just had my charger put in yesterday and with the low speed charger it takes 6-8 hours for a full charge and with high-speed charger it takes 3-4 hours. </p>
<p>I actually think I&#8217;ll never have to buy/drive another car since I only do two or three road trips a year (i.e. San Diego), and when I do I can us my old Mini Cooper. </p>
<p>95% of folks drive less than 100 miles a day&#8230; so the Tesla 2.0 at 60k and 3.0 at 30k would do the trick. Additionally, battery life is getting better and better, so my guess is they will be able to get the range from 220+ to 350-400+ in two years. When the car gets to 400 miles a charge and under 50k then it really starts to make sense because the gas savings of 2-3k a year pays for the additional 15k of the car (or something like that).</p>
<p>As a customer of the Tesla for four days I can tell you the car is a dream (as it should be for 120k) and a lot of fun. as much fun as it is, it&#8217;s not a toy either&#8230;. it&#8217;s very practical. It has a trunk, it&#8217;s comfortable, and it&#8217;s got more range than I&#8217;ll every use.</p>
<p>Nothing would be better than our country getting off foreign oil. That&#8217;s the number one reason I bought (second would be the environment, third would be it&#8217;s a sexy car). we can&#8217;t be involved with the backwards, human-rights violators in the middle east who repress the basic rights of women, gays, and journalists/bloggers.</p>
<p>Getting an EV is a political statement for me. We have to kick the oil habit.</p>
<p>all the best, jason</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tesla asking for Fed bailout money is ludricous. What a joke.</description>
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		<title>By: Tesla wants piece of potential auto bailout — R.R. Perry: The Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tesla wants piece of potential auto bailout — R.R. Perry: The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zach Weisman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach Weisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>losers</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony Felder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Felder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. You forgot &quot;a few F-list Hollywood celebrities&quot;
The Tesla company is failing already. They are hoping for a &quot;mini&quot; bailout and, sadly, they might get it from the liberals in Congress. But it will be too little, too late.
Many of TC readers are annoyed by these &quot;negative&quot; comments, but they are in denial...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. You forgot &#8220;a few F-list Hollywood celebrities&#8221;<br />
The Tesla company is failing already. They are hoping for a &#8220;mini&#8221; bailout and, sadly, they might get it from the liberals in Congress. But it will be too little, too late.<br />
Many of TC readers are annoyed by these &#8220;negative&#8221; comments, but they are in denial&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Bubba and Joe. Please READ my comment before offering yours. 
In your rush to post a comment, you both are actually proven my points.
Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Bubba and Joe. Please READ my comment before offering yours.<br />
In your rush to post a comment, you both are actually proven my points.<br />
Thank you.</p>
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