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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;This Sure Feels Like A Recession&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2541012</link>
		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;This Sure Feels Like A Recession&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] weekend a guy in Silicon Valley who got laid off went back and killed the CEO and two others.  Personal recession and major workplace [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How-To: The Art Of Laying People Off &#124; FuckedStartups</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2540795</link>
		<dc:creator>How-To: The Art Of Laying People Off &#124; FuckedStartups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of AllTop.com) wrote an excellent post (here) on how to lay people off without getting yourself kill [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Could have been avoided...</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-2539157</link>
		<dc:creator>Could have been avoided...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In exchange for no severance pay, he gave them all severance packages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In exchange for no severance pay, he gave them all severance packages.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2538602</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this economy, the headhunters must be pounding down their doors.  Without guns, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this economy, the headhunters must be pounding down their doors.  Without guns, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-2537684</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banning guns is against the constitution of the United States. What you have suggested is blatantly un-American. 

If you want security and safety, lock yourself inside a prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning guns is against the constitution of the United States. What you have suggested is blatantly un-American. </p>
<p>If you want security and safety, lock yourself inside a prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Board Member</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2537333</link>
		<dc:creator>Board Member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, please, please, please, please stop this speculation and libel. Sid Agrawal, the CEO of SiPort, was a warm and compassionate man. Ask any of the hundreds of people who knew him in the Valley. Brian Pugh and Marilyn Lewis were warm, engaging people, full of life just a few days ago.

Your posts here are doing real harm to people who are coping to deal with this tragedy.

Bad things do happen to good people. This is one of those times.

Please put the victims&#039; families and the surviving employees families in your prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, please, please, please, please stop this speculation and libel. Sid Agrawal, the CEO of SiPort, was a warm and compassionate man. Ask any of the hundreds of people who knew him in the Valley. Brian Pugh and Marilyn Lewis were warm, engaging people, full of life just a few days ago.</p>
<p>Your posts here are doing real harm to people who are coping to deal with this tragedy.</p>
<p>Bad things do happen to good people. This is one of those times.</p>
<p>Please put the victims&#8217; families and the surviving employees families in your prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: sergey another blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; does economic crisis reach the IT ?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2537310</link>
		<dc:creator>sergey another blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; does economic crisis reach the IT ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: treader</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2537277</link>
		<dc:creator>treader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to add: Dear Mr. Arrington - since your website is doing well, I wonder whether you might moderate the comments you receive. I daresay with &quot;discussions&quot; like the above, you run the risk of losing not a few readers, but also reputation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to add: Dear Mr. Arrington &#8211; since your website is doing well, I wonder whether you might moderate the comments you receive. I daresay with &#8220;discussions&#8221; like the above, you run the risk of losing not a few readers, but also reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: treader</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2537273</link>
		<dc:creator>treader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please boys and girls, desist with the remarks about minorities, or save the juicy tidbits at least for the white pointy-hooded personal gatherings. I&#039;m sure many of Indian, Chinese etc abstraction are simply appalled by many of the comments above. Some of the remarks are simply ridiculous: a great many native-born &quot;white&quot; U.S. Americans aren&#039;t even in command of the English language; it seems absurd to complain about the linguistic traits of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please boys and girls, desist with the remarks about minorities, or save the juicy tidbits at least for the white pointy-hooded personal gatherings. I&#8217;m sure many of Indian, Chinese etc abstraction are simply appalled by many of the comments above. Some of the remarks are simply ridiculous: a great many native-born &#8220;white&#8221; U.S. Americans aren&#8217;t even in command of the English language; it seems absurd to complain about the linguistic traits of others.</p>
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		<title>By: ABC</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2537250</link>
		<dc:creator>ABC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark

You make the solution seem so simple.  And Wu doesn&#039;t represent all of the Chinese people.  Each individual is different and unique, and there are just as many wackos of any other type of race.  You should keep your opinion, however accurately they might or might not be, because it wreaks of bigotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark</p>
<p>You make the solution seem so simple.  And Wu doesn&#8217;t represent all of the Chinese people.  Each individual is different and unique, and there are just as many wackos of any other type of race.  You should keep your opinion, however accurately they might or might not be, because it wreaks of bigotry.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536948</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H1Bs has nothing to do with this - After a while immigrants blend into american thoughtsphere and act in similar ways. Few wks back, an Indian hedge fund manager killed his entire family in LA area. We all go nuts in a while, filled with sadness and anger, and easy availability of guns makes such incidents possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H1Bs has nothing to do with this &#8211; After a while immigrants blend into american thoughtsphere and act in similar ways. Few wks back, an Indian hedge fund manager killed his entire family in LA area. We all go nuts in a while, filled with sadness and anger, and easy availability of guns makes such incidents possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536936</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is true - Indians talk more than Chinese and the reasons are two fold:
1) They can speak better English and hence can articulate their thoughts better.
2) Cultural reasons - Indians are like Italians in some sense - they talk about everything - including religion and politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true &#8211; Indians talk more than Chinese and the reasons are two fold:<br />
1) They can speak better English and hence can articulate their thoughts better.<br />
2) Cultural reasons &#8211; Indians are like Italians in some sense &#8211; they talk about everything &#8211; including religion and politics.</p>
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		<title>By: ha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536679</link>
		<dc:creator>ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there are no H1 B&#039;s Silicon Valley would be 10-20 years behind. Since your white kids donno how to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there are no H1 B&#8217;s Silicon Valley would be 10-20 years behind. Since your white kids donno how to read.</p>
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		<title>By: ha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-/#comment-2536676</link>
		<dc:creator>ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Strange, 
                I am sure you are a chinese immigrant.Let me tell you one thing , if you learnt immigration. The CEO was himself a Immigrant , a Indian.There are TONS of immigrants in silicon valley , infact they are majority in Silicon Valley. No immigrant is such a fool to get lured by some companies bad offer, since there are other companies and many options for them.
Also, stop condemning a dead person and give the man some respect. You are shameless person to say that the guy deserves it. Just imagine what his family might have gone through.
Also, u have no idea of that persons credibility, since ur knowledge is just 10%. So stop your nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Strange,<br />
                I am sure you are a chinese immigrant.Let me tell you one thing , if you learnt immigration. The CEO was himself a Immigrant , a Indian.There are TONS of immigrants in silicon valley , infact they are majority in Silicon Valley. No immigrant is such a fool to get lured by some companies bad offer, since there are other companies and many options for them.<br />
Also, stop condemning a dead person and give the man some respect. You are shameless person to say that the guy deserves it. Just imagine what his family might have gone through.<br />
Also, u have no idea of that persons credibility, since ur knowledge is just 10%. So stop your nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: gun control</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-2536490</link>
		<dc:creator>gun control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better gun control...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better gun control&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thread Pool</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-2536385</link>
		<dc:creator>Thread Pool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you meant to link to this: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you meant to link to this:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_'>http://en.wikip...org/wiki/Troll_</a>(Internet)</p>
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		<title>By: They are in a better place right now.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536298</link>
		<dc:creator>They are in a better place right now.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lord works in mysterious ways.</description>
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		<title>By: Abhishek Shrestha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536288</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek Shrestha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, i second that. Its true these guys just know how to talk, and talk anything (no sense but keep jabbing around). More so the indian media, they just think they are the world&#039;s most powerful county. But there are good guys too in this country.. but overall its more show than go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, i second that. Its true these guys just know how to talk, and talk anything (no sense but keep jabbing around). More so the indian media, they just think they are the world&#8217;s most powerful county. But there are good guys too in this country.. but overall its more show than go.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536270</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or simply stop hiring Chinese. They can&#039;t speak English very well so when they get upset, they cant use words to articulate their feelings (remember Ocean&#039;s Eleven and the acrobat in the vault?). So the resentment cannot find an outlet and gets bottled up over a period of time. The result is passive aggressive behavior, insecurity, craftiness, gamesmanship, victim syndrome, backstabbing, superiority complex, and, once in a while, triple homicide. I am pretty sure that the families of these men have to put up with a lot at home. Another big problem is that the community does not seem interested in discussing these issues openly.  &quot;He was such a nice and gentle guy.&quot; How many times have we heard that? Engineers in general are not very good at communication and when you add lack of English knowledge, well, in high pressure situations (and startups deal with them on a daily basis), things can get really really messed up. Companies that hire Chinese should go out of their way to help them improve their communication skills. Remember, with Chinese, things are never what they seem. Management should always be proactive. The effort can be worth it because there are some really smart Chinese programmers out there who can make all the difference to a startup. They can be match winners. But for jobs like QA, well, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or simply stop hiring Chinese. They can&#8217;t speak English very well so when they get upset, they cant use words to articulate their feelings (remember Ocean&#8217;s Eleven and the acrobat in the vault?). So the resentment cannot find an outlet and gets bottled up over a period of time. The result is passive aggressive behavior, insecurity, craftiness, gamesmanship, victim syndrome, backstabbing, superiority complex, and, once in a while, triple homicide. I am pretty sure that the families of these men have to put up with a lot at home. Another big problem is that the community does not seem interested in discussing these issues openly.  &#8220;He was such a nice and gentle guy.&#8221; How many times have we heard that? Engineers in general are not very good at communication and when you add lack of English knowledge, well, in high pressure situations (and startups deal with them on a daily basis), things can get really really messed up. Companies that hire Chinese should go out of their way to help them improve their communication skills. Remember, with Chinese, things are never what they seem. Management should always be proactive. The effort can be worth it because there are some really smart Chinese programmers out there who can make all the difference to a startup. They can be match winners. But for jobs like QA, well, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: H1B H1B</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536233</link>
		<dc:creator>H1B H1B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well give out more H1Bs and this is the result. I want to know who wants to start a shootout at the Googleplex. (kill Larry page and sergey Brin first)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well give out more H1Bs and this is the result. I want to know who wants to start a shootout at the Googleplex. (kill Larry page and sergey Brin first)</p>
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		<title>By: Layoff Roundup : JOBMATCHBOX</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536227</link>
		<dc:creator>Layoff Roundup : JOBMATCHBOX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Developer Gets Fired, Goes Postal, Kills Three&#8217; (Silicon Alley Insider)  &#8216;A Sad Day In Sillicon Valley&#8217; (Tech [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Developer Gets Fired, Goes Postal, Kills Three&#8217; (Silicon Alley Insider)  &#8216;A Sad Day In Sillicon Valley&#8217; (Tech [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Europe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-1/#comment-2536085</link>
		<dc:creator>Europe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is soooo great - Chris, you should have a TV show with this. Nobody could fake such a bulls***. I still have tears of laughter roll down my cheeks. Go get a life, maybe start reading a newspaper or a book (no, not a Spiderman comic book). And - psst: the Brits are about to get you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is soooo great &#8211; Chris, you should have a TV show with this. Nobody could fake such a bulls***. I still have tears of laughter roll down my cheeks. Go get a life, maybe start reading a newspaper or a book (no, not a Spiderman comic book). And &#8211; psst: the Brits are about to get you!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron C.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/15/a-sad-day-in-silicon-valley/comment-page-2/#comment-2536080</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn right. You better cut down on the slanty eye jokes and the fake Chinese accent or you might be next. 

Incidentally, the day of the shooting was a HAPPY day for Silicon Valley CEO&#039;s, because every one of them went to bed that day thinking &quot;Thank God it wasn&#039;t me! Thank God it wasn&#039;t me!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn right. You better cut down on the slanty eye jokes and the fake Chinese accent or you might be next. </p>
<p>Incidentally, the day of the shooting was a HAPPY day for Silicon Valley CEO&#8217;s, because every one of them went to bed that day thinking &#8220;Thank God it wasn&#8217;t me! Thank God it wasn&#8217;t me!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11:11: you&#039;re a fuckturd</description>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this specific indident aside, what guessit said is actually a very real and prevalent problem as I too have come across many such Indians. It&#039;s a sad fact that certain management teams are either too overworked or overwhelmed by huge teams to separate the brown-nosers from the workers. and  also in America being loud and obnoxious seems to get you far while if you put your head down and work, people start to think that you must be plotting the next Columbine. It&#039;s screwed up backarsewords thinking like these that&#039;s the cost of extreme individuality and merciless capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this specific indident aside, what guessit said is actually a very real and prevalent problem as I too have come across many such Indians. It&#8217;s a sad fact that certain management teams are either too overworked or overwhelmed by huge teams to separate the brown-nosers from the workers. and  also in America being loud and obnoxious seems to get you far while if you put your head down and work, people start to think that you must be plotting the next Columbine. It&#8217;s screwed up backarsewords thinking like these that&#8217;s the cost of extreme individuality and merciless capitalism.</p>
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