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	<title>Comments on: Nokia Comes With (Illegal) Music In Vietnam?</title>
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		<title>By: almeda</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2549156</link>
		<dc:creator>almeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol if you’re in Vietnam you’ll know that everything is going even crazier. There are some rumors that RIAV had some hackers hack into Nokia’s music store on Nhacso.net. Quite interesting thou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol if you’re in Vietnam you’ll know that everything is going even crazier. There are some rumors that RIAV had some hackers hack into Nokia’s music store on Nhacso.net. Quite interesting thou.</p>
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		<title>By: tuan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2534373</link>
		<dc:creator>tuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually RIAV does represent the marjority of the artists in Vietnam. FPT has already admitted publicly that they were in violation of copyright laws. Any music content in distributor in Vietnam must secure rights form RIAV as well as VCPMC. FPT is in the process of seeking these rights but have not yet entered into an agreement with RIAV or VCPMC. 

Only a small number of artists have not signed with RIAV and have ownership of  their distribution rights. FPT/Nhacso does not have rights for the majority of their music library. 

Although Vietnam is an developing country, there are organizations such as RIAV and POPS.vn (the first music website to offer licensed music) which are trying to support artists&#039; creativity by respecting intellectual property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually RIAV does represent the marjority of the artists in Vietnam. FPT has already admitted publicly that they were in violation of copyright laws. Any music content in distributor in Vietnam must secure rights form RIAV as well as VCPMC. FPT is in the process of seeking these rights but have not yet entered into an agreement with RIAV or VCPMC. </p>
<p>Only a small number of artists have not signed with RIAV and have ownership of  their distribution rights. FPT/Nhacso does not have rights for the majority of their music library. </p>
<p>Although Vietnam is an developing country, there are organizations such as RIAV and POPS.vn (the first music website to offer licensed music) which are trying to support artists&#8217; creativity by respecting intellectual property.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Marketing Vietnam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Nokia and FPT Manage Online Reputation?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2533988</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Marketing Vietnam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Nokia and FPT Manage Online Reputation?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heard the case, try to search &#8220;FPT Nokia music&#8221; in Google the top result returned with Techcrunch post. Of course many local online newspapers copied and pasted the news but how Techcrunch cared about a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] heard the case, try to search &#8220;FPT Nokia music&#8221; in Google the top result returned with Techcrunch post. Of course many local online newspapers copied and pasted the news but how Techcrunch cared about a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Truc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2532580</link>
		<dc:creator>Truc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is true for the publishing side of licensing here in VN...and many companies do this, except for POPS.vn. http://www.banquyenamnhac.vn/tintuc.php?tn=view&amp;id=137

who got the rights for the largest library in Vietnam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is true for the publishing side of licensing here in VN&#8230;and many companies do this, except for POPS.vn. <a href="http://www.banquyenamnhac.vn/tintuc.php?tn=view&amp;id=137" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.banquyenamnhac.vn/tintuc.php?tn=view&amp;id=137'>http://www.banq...view&amp;id=137</a></p>
<p>who got the rights for the largest library in Vietnam.</p>
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		<title>By: Truc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2532576</link>
		<dc:creator>Truc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, RIAV does have the right to grant licenses to Content Providers. RIAV is headed by all the major labels in Vietnam, including Benh Thanh Audio, Saigon Vafaco, Phuong Nam, etc. These majors have all granted RIAV the right to represent their library. Thus, to have a full complete library, Nokia, either, should have worked with RIAV directly or another content provider who has the rights to sublicense to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, RIAV does have the right to grant licenses to Content Providers. RIAV is headed by all the major labels in Vietnam, including Benh Thanh Audio, Saigon Vafaco, Phuong Nam, etc. These majors have all granted RIAV the right to represent their library. Thus, to have a full complete library, Nokia, either, should have worked with RIAV directly or another content provider who has the rights to sublicense to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kun Kon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2532527</link>
		<dc:creator>Kun Kon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nettra.com.vn/vn/index.aspx &gt;&gt;&gt;  UBND TP Hà Nội vừa ban hành quy định mới về thu hồi đất, giao đất, cho thuê đất, chuyển mục đích sử dụng đất để thực hiện dự án đầu tư làm nhà ở tại điểm dân cư nông thôn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nettra.com.vn/vn/index.aspx" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.nettra.com.vn/vn/index.aspx'>http://www.nett...n/vn/index.aspx</a> &gt;&gt;&gt;  UBND TP Hà Nội vừa ban hành quy định mới về thu hồi đất, giao đất, cho thuê đất, chuyển mục đích sử dụng đất để thực hiện dự án đầu tư làm nhà ở tại điểm dân cư nông thôn.</p>
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		<title>By: Chhai</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2532265</link>
		<dc:creator>Chhai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most if not all music sites in VN violate copyright anyway. I didn&#039;t think nobody would ever attempt take anybody to court.

When I bought my Nokia phone in VN, they copy any song I want ( including English songs) into my memory card for me for free! So is this the &quot;Nokia distribution&quot; they are talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most if not all music sites in VN violate copyright anyway. I didn&#8217;t think nobody would ever attempt take anybody to court.</p>
<p>When I bought my Nokia phone in VN, they copy any song I want ( including English songs) into my memory card for me for free! So is this the &#8220;Nokia distribution&#8221; they are talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: TanNg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531964</link>
		<dc:creator>TanNg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuz RIAV do not own most of the music copyright. In fact, artists own it directly, and NhacSo (FPT) have signed many contract with those artists. So NhacSo have full legal right to distribute most but not all the music.

RIAV just make a noise by telling everyone that they will file the lawsuit. They did this several times before but withought any success. RIAV is kind of organization that use sue to earn tactics, they do no business but looking around whether there is business deal with music and try to threaten other with lawsuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuz RIAV do not own most of the music copyright. In fact, artists own it directly, and NhacSo (FPT) have signed many contract with those artists. So NhacSo have full legal right to distribute most but not all the music.</p>
<p>RIAV just make a noise by telling everyone that they will file the lawsuit. They did this several times before but withought any success. RIAV is kind of organization that use sue to earn tactics, they do no business but looking around whether there is business deal with music and try to threaten other with lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: macromike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531672</link>
		<dc:creator>macromike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Nokia dealing with FPT in the first place? And how come that RIAV won&#039;t win a lawsuite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Nokia dealing with FPT in the first place? And how come that RIAV won&#8217;t win a lawsuite?</p>
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		<title>By: Dealyzer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531634</link>
		<dc:creator>Dealyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning Vietnam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning Vietnam!</p>
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		<title>By: TaiTran</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531632</link>
		<dc:creator>TaiTran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Robin,

This is a nice coverage. We&#039;re looking forward to more updates from international perspective.

Regards,
TaiTran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Robin,</p>
<p>This is a nice coverage. We&#8217;re looking forward to more updates from international perspective.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
TaiTran</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Wauters</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531625</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Wauters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird, I fixed that before I posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird, I fixed that before I posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Tien Nguyen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531624</link>
		<dc:creator>Tien Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If somebody has &quot;legal music&quot; in Vietnam it probably means they pay for some songs (like 10?), and tell everyone that they are in the process of getting license for the rest (doesn&#039;t come in package). This is also true for nhacso. Quite interesting i&#039;ll meet the ex-founder of nhacso tomorrow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If somebody has &#8220;legal music&#8221; in Vietnam it probably means they pay for some songs (like 10?), and tell everyone that they are in the process of getting license for the rest (doesn&#8217;t come in package). This is also true for nhacso. Quite interesting i&#8217;ll meet the ex-founder of nhacso tomorrow</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531602</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol if you&#039;re in Vietnam you&#039;ll know that everything is going even crazier. There are some rumors that RIAV had some hackers hack into Nokia&#039;s music store on Nhacso.net. Quite interesting thou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol if you&#8217;re in Vietnam you&#8217;ll know that everything is going even crazier. There are some rumors that RIAV had some hackers hack into Nokia&#8217;s music store on Nhacso.net. Quite interesting thou.</p>
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		<title>By: LOL</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531601</link>
		<dc:creator>LOL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Robin...

I am German and I don&#039;t even like your english ;)

come on...

&quot;Vietnam’s Recording Association of Vietnam (RIAV) has reportedly filed a $3 million lawsuit[...]&quot;

How about:

&quot;THE Recording Association of Vietnam (RIAV) has reportedly filed a $3 million lawsuit[...]&quot;

Simple as that...and much better...

cu

j</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Robin&#8230;</p>
<p>I am German and I don&#8217;t even like your english <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>come on&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Vietnam’s Recording Association of Vietnam (RIAV) has reportedly filed a $3 million lawsuit[...]&#8221;</p>
<p>How about:</p>
<p>&#8220;THE Recording Association of Vietnam (RIAV) has reportedly filed a $3 million lawsuit[...]&#8221;</p>
<p>Simple as that&#8230;and much better&#8230;</p>
<p>cu</p>
<p>j</p>
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		<title>By: VN</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531578</link>
		<dc:creator>VN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The music copyright is still in the stone-age in Vietnam, so there are no such global deal.

Also the RIVA is just some thing on the paper, they do not have ability to distribute the digital music, so working with FPT is the only choice left for NOKIA. So bad that FPT wasn&#039;t have full-license for all music that they sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music copyright is still in the stone-age in Vietnam, so there are no such global deal.</p>
<p>Also the RIVA is just some thing on the paper, they do not have ability to distribute the digital music, so working with FPT is the only choice left for NOKIA. So bad that FPT wasn&#8217;t have full-license for all music that they sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Home Biss</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531577</link>
		<dc:creator>Home Biss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, what the f*ck is wrong with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, what the f*ck is wrong with you?</p>
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		<title>By: ALi R Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531556</link>
		<dc:creator>ALi R Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tell the truth, There is no Law about Copyrights in underdeveloped and most of the Asian countries. In Pakistan you can Get windows XP or Vista for just Half a Dollar. Pirated Software are sold on Streets without any danger of Police...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tell the truth, There is no Law about Copyrights in underdeveloped and most of the Asian countries. In Pakistan you can Get windows XP or Vista for just Half a Dollar. Pirated Software are sold on Streets without any danger of Police&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hotmealer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/12/nokia-comes-with-illegal-music-in-vietnam/comment-page-1/#comment-2531540</link>
		<dc:creator>hotmealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buuuullllll ssshhhhhhhiiiiiiiittttttt

fuck off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buuuullllll ssshhhhhhhiiiiiiiittttttt</p>
<p>fuck off</p>
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