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	<title>Comments on: The Cotsakos Touch: Me-Three Social Network Moli Implodes</title>
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		<title>By: vexed</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2632857</link>
		<dc:creator>vexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ding... we have a winner....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ding&#8230; we have a winner&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: vexed</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2632855</link>
		<dc:creator>vexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, the partner list on the right is the same team that helped destroy MOLI...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, the partner list on the right is the same team that helped destroy MOLI&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peanut</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2624901</link>
		<dc:creator>Peanut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised. Look at SocialTrak for example, they offer the same service and have boot strapped everything using Elgg, got the public to help beta test and with $0 funding achieved what Moli have.

Open Source software like Elgg will change how we all look at social networking I think it future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised. Look at SocialTrak for example, they offer the same service and have boot strapped everything using Elgg, got the public to help beta test and with $0 funding achieved what Moli have.</p>
<p>Open Source software like Elgg will change how we all look at social networking I think it future.</p>
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		<title>By: Say it With Clay &#171; Suite 110</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2613287</link>
		<dc:creator>Say it With Clay &#171; Suite 110</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s a proven fact that no successful social networking site has ever launched without at least one full-time clay animator on staff. We were just following [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s a proven fact that no successful social networking site has ever launched without at least one full-time clay animator on staff. We were just following [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Im Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2564607</link>
		<dc:creator>Im Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL</description>
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		<title>By: Long Beach Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2538287</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Beach Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paid Search-PPC goes a long way when you just pushing eyeballs on to a home page. Clearly nothing stuck to the wall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paid Search-PPC goes a long way when you just pushing eyeballs on to a home page. Clearly nothing stuck to the wall</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2535482</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heath - 
   Duh.
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heath &#8211;<br />
   Duh.<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2534560</link>
		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question that I have been pondering about this:  

How on earth does a social network get 2 million hits on it&#039;s site, and then no one returns only a few weeks later?!?!?  Seriously, the law of averages says that two months after people visited, some would return, just out of curiosity.  

Does anyone think that they were faking all of that traffic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question that I have been pondering about this:  </p>
<p>How on earth does a social network get 2 million hits on it&#8217;s site, and then no one returns only a few weeks later?!?!?  Seriously, the law of averages says that two months after people visited, some would return, just out of curiosity.  </p>
<p>Does anyone think that they were faking all of that traffic?</p>
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		<title>By: Art Vandalay</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2533808</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Vandalay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is Doug Nassaur when you need him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Doug Nassaur when you need him?</p>
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		<title>By: SavvyTecher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2531845</link>
		<dc:creator>SavvyTecher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is newsshook a word?

Web or Bust is correct, and its a bad economy.  Certainly one where companies are trying to watch their spending.  However, spending upwards of 30 million on a site that really doesn&#039;t appear to have any distinguishing characteristics and the best thing you can say is also the worst thing...they had a top 1000 site but to have that fast a falloff down to the 60,000th in a month shows they really were all smoke.

Did you work there, Web?  You seem a little defensive...that is, after all, their style: http://www.sabrinadent.com/2008/01/29/oh-moli-you-heartbreaker-you/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is newsshook a word?</p>
<p>Web or Bust is correct, and its a bad economy.  Certainly one where companies are trying to watch their spending.  However, spending upwards of 30 million on a site that really doesn&#8217;t appear to have any distinguishing characteristics and the best thing you can say is also the worst thing&#8230;they had a top 1000 site but to have that fast a falloff down to the 60,000th in a month shows they really were all smoke.</p>
<p>Did you work there, Web?  You seem a little defensive&#8230;that is, after all, their style: <a href="http://www.sabrinadent.com/2008/01/29/oh-moli-you-heartbreaker-you/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.sabrinadent.com/2008/01/29/oh-moli-you-heartbreaker-you/'>http://www.sabr...artbreaker-you/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Web or Bust</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2531767</link>
		<dc:creator>Web or Bust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As with all startups...it is clear that the full story isn&#039;t known here.  Everyone in this business that has been around for awhile knows that &quot;things aren&#039;t always what they appear&quot;.   And the reporter didn&#039;t try very hard to get any comment from the company.  Too bad she had to go back 10 years to get her tabloid newshook.  Companies with come and go and we will see a lot more in the next year...Moli isn&#039;t the first nor the last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with all startups&#8230;it is clear that the full story isn&#8217;t known here.  Everyone in this business that has been around for awhile knows that &#8220;things aren&#8217;t always what they appear&#8221;.   And the reporter didn&#8217;t try very hard to get any comment from the company.  Too bad she had to go back 10 years to get her tabloid newshook.  Companies with come and go and we will see a lot more in the next year&#8230;Moli isn&#8217;t the first nor the last.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2531563</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how a social network with that type of funding didn&#039;t gain any traction, why did usership fall off so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how a social network with that type of funding didn&#8217;t gain any traction, why did usership fall off so much?</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2531359</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Cotsakos isn&#039;t giving up yet: http://www.penningtonventures.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Cotsakos isn&#8217;t giving up yet: <a href="http://www.penningtonventures.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.penningtonventures.com/'>http://www.penn...onventures.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SavvyTecher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530895</link>
		<dc:creator>SavvyTecher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the part you missed - the company was around for 2 years and went through $26 million that they did have.  That&#039;s well over one-million per month in spending.  Someone got rich, and it wasn&#039;t the laid-off employees or the low-level investors.  Probably the third party advertising that was feeding their growth.

Couldn&#039;t happen to a better &quot;wantrepreneur&quot;.  Let&#039;s see who else gives that guy money for another investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the part you missed &#8211; the company was around for 2 years and went through $26 million that they did have.  That&#8217;s well over one-million per month in spending.  Someone got rich, and it wasn&#8217;t the laid-off employees or the low-level investors.  Probably the third party advertising that was feeding their growth.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t happen to a better &#8220;wantrepreneur&#8221;.  Let&#8217;s see who else gives that guy money for another investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Web2.0 Bubble Burst</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530819</link>
		<dc:creator>Web2.0 Bubble Burst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.fuckedstartups.com/2008/11/11/near-timecom-fucked/

The only thing you missed about near-time is that not only did everyone get laid off, they voided all contracts and stole everyone’s severance. Each employee had a guaranteed 4 weeks pay for severance and they just stole it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.fuckedstartups.com/2008/11/11/near-timecom-fucked/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.fuckedstartups.com/2008/11/11/near-timecom-fucked/'>http://www.fuck...timecom-fucked/</a></p>
<p>The only thing you missed about near-time is that not only did everyone get laid off, they voided all contracts and stole everyone’s severance. Each employee had a guaranteed 4 weeks pay for severance and they just stole it</p>
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		<title>By: Mogilny</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530818</link>
		<dc:creator>Mogilny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florida is a tax haven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida is a tax haven.</p>
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		<title>By: Mogilny</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530813</link>
		<dc:creator>Mogilny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Selling user profiles to advertisers while their tag line was &quot;Control Your Privacy&quot;.  They trademarked that, check the screen shot.  Douchebag alert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Selling user profiles to advertisers while their tag line was &#8220;Control Your Privacy&#8221;.  They trademarked that, check the screen shot.  Douchebag alert.</p>
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		<title>By: biscuits</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530796</link>
		<dc:creator>biscuits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness, Erick, your writing skills are really poor.  Can&#039;t say I&#039;m much impressed by your analytic skills either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness, Erick, your writing skills are really poor.  Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m much impressed by your analytic skills either.</p>
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		<title>By: mahalo bruddah</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530788</link>
		<dc:creator>mahalo bruddah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>social network for swingers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>social network for swingers?</p>
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		<title>By: Anti Matter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530786</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@William Pietri 

Yeah I see your point. But I saw it as a contradiction as it appeared to be either or. However you explained yourself well when you stated &quot;It’s true that failing to innovate sufficiently is also, in some sense, a big mistake&quot;.

Do not pay attention to the homo who pretends to me. HeShe seems to have become a huge fan of me whenever I post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@William Pietri </p>
<p>Yeah I see your point. But I saw it as a contradiction as it appeared to be either or. However you explained yourself well when you stated &#8220;It’s true that failing to innovate sufficiently is also, in some sense, a big mistake&#8221;.</p>
<p>Do not pay attention to the homo who pretends to me. HeShe seems to have become a huge fan of me whenever I post.</p>
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		<title>By: SocialLocator.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530785</link>
		<dc:creator>SocialLocator.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a simple case of a business cashing out.  there allowed to do that.

DeadLocator.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a simple case of a business cashing out.  there allowed to do that.</p>
<p>DeadLocator.com</p>
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		<title>By: shonuffharlem</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530722</link>
		<dc:creator>shonuffharlem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lar lose stock options in collapse of Moli.
LAR
GET
ANGRYYYYYY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lar lose stock options in collapse of Moli.<br />
LAR<br />
GET<br />
ANGRYYYYYY!</p>
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		<title>By: William Pietri</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530693</link>
		<dc:creator>William Pietri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anti Matter: I believe that&#039;d technically be a redundancy, not a contradiction. 

However, the case I was trying to draw attention to is not a pure 10x innovation, but one where a major or dominant player has a weak or declining user experience, creating an opportunity where none existed. I was thinking of Friendster, which lost their first-mover advantage that way, or Twitter, which came dangerously close. Poor execution can bring a competitor&#039;s need for innovation down from an order of magnitude to a small increment.

It&#039;s true that failing to innovate sufficiently is also, in some sense, a big mistake. One could certainly say in retrospect that the other search engines failed to invest sufficiently in innovation to prevent the rise of Google. But that&#039;s a much harder failure to spot at the time, whereas any well-run business should be able to spot their product getting worse or users getting dissatisfied with what&#039;s there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anti Matter: I believe that&#8217;d technically be a redundancy, not a contradiction. </p>
<p>However, the case I was trying to draw attention to is not a pure 10x innovation, but one where a major or dominant player has a weak or declining user experience, creating an opportunity where none existed. I was thinking of Friendster, which lost their first-mover advantage that way, or Twitter, which came dangerously close. Poor execution can bring a competitor&#8217;s need for innovation down from an order of magnitude to a small increment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that failing to innovate sufficiently is also, in some sense, a big mistake. One could certainly say in retrospect that the other search engines failed to invest sufficiently in innovation to prevent the rise of Google. But that&#8217;s a much harder failure to spot at the time, whereas any well-run business should be able to spot their product getting worse or users getting dissatisfied with what&#8217;s there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anti Matter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530685</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;my best friends are hubris-filled Internet pseudo-moguls and wantrepreneurs&quot; -- You have wayyyyyyy too much time to waste....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;my best friends are hubris-filled Internet pseudo-moguls and wantrepreneurs&#8221; &#8212; You have wayyyyyyy too much time to waste&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Bubble</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/11/the-cotsakos-touch-me-three-social-network-moli-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-2530679</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Bubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said before, there are too many &quot;me-too&quot; duplicates in this Web 2.0 bubble. I would be surprised this is only the beginning. Too much money to burn. Probably from liquidity excess from housing bubble and Wall Street leveraging. Now, taxpayers are paying the dues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said before, there are too many &#8220;me-too&#8221; duplicates in this Web 2.0 bubble. I would be surprised this is only the beginning. Too much money to burn. Probably from liquidity excess from housing bubble and Wall Street leveraging. Now, taxpayers are paying the dues.</p>
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