Comments on: The Fourth YouTuber http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:13:48 -0800 hourly 1 By: H. Elwood Gilliland III http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-3030099 H. Elwood Gilliland III Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:01:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-3030099 Banks wouldn't help me. But, thanks for the sane response. Banks wouldn’t help me. But, thanks for the sane response.

]]> By: H. Elwood Gilliland III http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-3030093 H. Elwood Gilliland III Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:56:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-3030093 I didn't hand it over. I said "1%" I didn’t hand it over. I said “1%”

]]> By: Compliance reminder if your MUD uses OLC - Top Mud Sites Forum http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2810728 Compliance reminder if your MUD uses OLC - Top Mud Sites Forum Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:36:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2810728 [...] Re: Compliance reminder if your MUD uses OLC Some perspective for those who don't know who this guy is: Herbert Elwood Gilliland III Andrew Webspace The Fourth YouTuber [...] [...] Re: Compliance reminder if your MUD uses OLC Some perspective for those who don’t know who this guy is: Herbert Elwood Gilliland III Andrew Webspace The Fourth YouTuber [...]

]]> By: H. Elwood Gilliland III http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2539223 H. Elwood Gilliland III Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:55:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2539223 My mother died when I was 8 years old. My mother died when I was 8 years old.

]]> By: ifearzombies http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2534697 ifearzombies Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:22:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2534697 I invented internet porn. Back in 1995 I said, damn I wish I could get my porn without anyone seeing me. So, I will take one million dollars or a lifetime of free porn. I invented internet porn. Back in 1995 I said, damn I wish I could get my porn without anyone seeing me.

So, I will take one million dollars or a lifetime of free porn.

]]> By: Eric http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2534696 Eric Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:21:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2534696 That BK commercial with Herb from the 80s was awesome! Are you mad because you didn't invent that too? That BK commercial with Herb from the 80s was awesome! Are you mad because you didn’t invent that too?

]]> By: Alan Levine http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2534267 Alan Levine Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:19:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2534267 I was before all of them- here is the proof http://flickr.com/photos/cogdog/3030013508/ I was before all of them- here is the proof

http://flickr.c...dog/3030013508/

]]> By: Trucuri http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2531734 Trucuri Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:02:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2531734 :)) :) )

]]> By: E un trend » zoso's blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2531651 E un trend » zoso's blog Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:59:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2531651 [...] numele pe teza care semna nasterea motorului de cautare pentru ca era prea ocupat, acum, avem si inventatorul YouTube. Maine o sa apara si prietenul ascuns al lui Bill Gates, care o sa spuna ca el i-a zis lui Gates ca [...] [...] numele pe teza care semna nasterea motorului de cautare pentru ca era prea ocupat, acum, avem si inventatorul YouTube. Maine o sa apara si prietenul ascuns al lui Bill Gates, care o sa spuna ca el i-a zis lui Gates ca [...]

]]> By: It’s All About Execution « Tom O’Keefe (TOKiBiz) http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2530511 It’s All About Execution « Tom O’Keefe (TOKiBiz) Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:30:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2530511 [...] Techcrunch reported there is a “Fourth YouTuber” who is looking to sue the company for stealing his idea. The reasons are given in the [...] [...] Techcrunch reported there is a “Fourth YouTuber” who is looking to sue the company for stealing his idea. The reasons are given in the [...]

]]> By: Yasser http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529976 Yasser Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:10:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529976 Herbert just got pawned! Btw Check out http://www.jobstaxi/com New Jobs. Garage Games. Infinity Ward. Funny Or Die. KickApps. Gracenote. Herbert just got pawned!

Btw
Check out http://www.jobstaxi/com
New Jobs. Garage Games. Infinity Ward. Funny Or Die. KickApps. Gracenote.

]]> By: Mohib http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529949 Mohib Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:34:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529949 Haha. To Keron: Seems like the same idea Dread Zeppelin made cover band to the Led Zeppelin and Robert Plant really liked it !!! :D Haha. To Keron: Seems like the same idea Dread Zeppelin made cover band to the Led Zeppelin and Robert Plant really liked it !!! :D

]]> By: Herb Gilliland http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-2529926 Herb Gilliland Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:59:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529926 MLS: The only proof I have is a) the testimony of Chad, b) minor psychological observations which point to an obscure beginning, c) the anecdotal evidence of my professor, Don Marinelli, co-creator of the Synthetic Interview, and my friends in college, and d) phone records that show calls made to me from Paypal and Google in two separate time periods. I'm not here to enter into petty lawsuits, I'm just sharing my story for others to know. Maybe someone in a different situation will come into my life, or our collective lives, and figure out a way to fix this issue -- like an idea registry -- or by providing an organization for pro-bono IP for ordinary citizens -- or by investing in me. MLS: The only proof I have is a) the testimony of Chad, b) minor psychological observations which point to an obscure beginning, c) the anecdotal evidence of my professor, Don Marinelli, co-creator of the Synthetic Interview, and my friends in college, and d) phone records that show calls made to me from Paypal and Google in two separate time periods. I’m not here to enter into petty lawsuits, I’m just sharing my story for others to know. Maybe someone in a different situation will come into my life, or our collective lives, and figure out a way to fix this issue — like an idea registry — or by providing an organization for pro-bono IP for ordinary citizens — or by investing in me.

]]> By: Herb Gilliland http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-2529924 Herb Gilliland Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:56:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529924 MLS: it's not just a matter of implementation. It's a matter of connections to established business people, who are willing to back you fiscally. I specifically didn't buy this one because I wanted to find an investor first. Without saying anything, no one else came up with it. When I was homeless, I thought long and hard about the situation I was in. I realized I must have had a holier-than-thou attitude, solely because I knew YouTube would be this successful. In fact, Hurley sold it for only $500M less than I originally quoted it (I said, sell it to Google for $2.1B, he sold it for $1.6B). Why keep it inside any longer? Find someone, say whatever it took to convince them, and help the world! Simple, right? The 1% is merely an attempt to get success from it, since I knew it would be successful. Think of all the websites that depend on your free labor: do you want to live a world like that? On your behalf, I have been convincing them to figure out ways to pay back the users -- like in the Ad revenue sharing program -- because the system, the way it is, obviously only benefits the few and not the many. In a system like that, we depend on the decisions of individuals, not groups, to run the world of business. We need a world of business than depends on the decisions of groups, so that the group can police the individual. I love individual rights, but I think individuality is something that is packaged and sold. No one is more than 2% different than me, even if they were born without eye-sockets or have a tentacle growing out of their forehead. Since this is scientifically provable, and since we have tons of historic evidence that suggests that the capitalistic system, at its current level of regulation, benefits only 1% of the 6 billion Earthlings, how can I hijack that system to help the other 99%? This was one way. Maybe next time I will make a dollar -- maybe Chad will send me some cash -- I don't know. I know that the first thing I would do after cashing the check, is fly to San Bruno to say thanks and share whatever other observations I could make. California has done this to me my entire life: somewhat willingly, but often beyond my will or intention. At least I'm trying to take a proactive approach to the ongoing idea harvesting that occurs in the corporate world. MLS: it’s not just a matter of implementation. It’s a matter of connections to established business people, who are willing to back you fiscally. I specifically didn’t buy this one because I wanted to find an investor first. Without saying anything, no one else came up with it. When I was homeless, I thought long and hard about the situation I was in. I realized I must have had a holier-than-thou attitude, solely because I knew YouTube would be this successful. In fact, Hurley sold it for only $500M less than I originally quoted it (I said, sell it to Google for $2.1B, he sold it for $1.6B). Why keep it inside any longer? Find someone, say whatever it took to convince them, and help the world! Simple, right? The 1% is merely an attempt to get success from it, since I knew it would be successful. Think of all the websites that depend on your free labor: do you want to live a world like that? On your behalf, I have been convincing them to figure out ways to pay back the users — like in the Ad revenue sharing program — because the system, the way it is, obviously only benefits the few and not the many. In a system like that, we depend on the decisions of individuals, not groups, to run the world of business. We need a world of business than depends on the decisions of groups, so that the group can police the individual. I love individual rights, but I think individuality is something that is packaged and sold. No one is more than 2% different than me, even if they were born without eye-sockets or have a tentacle growing out of their forehead. Since this is scientifically provable, and since we have tons of historic evidence that suggests that the capitalistic system, at its current level of regulation, benefits only 1% of the 6 billion Earthlings, how can I hijack that system to help the other 99%? This was one way. Maybe next time I will make a dollar — maybe Chad will send me some cash — I don’t know. I know that the first thing I would do after cashing the check, is fly to San Bruno to say thanks and share whatever other observations I could make.

California has done this to me my entire life: somewhat willingly, but often beyond my will or intention. At least I’m trying to take a proactive approach to the ongoing idea harvesting that occurs in the corporate world.

]]> By: Herb Gilliland http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-2529917 Herb Gilliland Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:48:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529917 I won't be using the American Injustice System anytime soon: I doubt anything would come of it. It's really up to the moral fiber of Chad, Steve and whomever would influence them to help the researcher who came up with the brand. They know what happened, it's up to them to decide if they want to keep hiding the truth -- that they aren't the independent thinkers they make themselves out to be -- or if they want to garner my future support and, frankly, heal a wound. As for the repeated question 'Why didn't you register the domain?' -- I explained several times that the $10 for the domain is not the $100k to start-up or $8M .. that took connections that I did not have and could not garner in the first 7 years. I own about 12 domains. Why keep buying them if nothing comes of it? You can have the best site in the world but it won't matter because of a dozen reasons, most of which are fiscal. I won’t be using the American Injustice System anytime soon: I doubt anything would come of it. It’s really up to the moral fiber of Chad, Steve and whomever would influence them to help the researcher who came up with the brand.

They know what happened, it’s up to them to decide if they want to keep hiding the truth — that they aren’t the independent thinkers they make themselves out to be — or if they want to garner my future support and, frankly, heal a wound.

As for the repeated question ‘Why didn’t you register the domain?’ — I explained several times that the $10 for the domain is not the $100k to start-up or $8M .. that took connections that I did not have and could not garner in the first 7 years. I own about 12 domains. Why keep buying them if nothing comes of it? You can have the best site in the world but it won’t matter because of a dozen reasons, most of which are fiscal.

]]> By: Mommy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529902 Mommy Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:31:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529902 Herbie, all I have to say is.. You are shit out of luck. That is all. Herbie, all I have to say is.. You are shit out of luck. That is all.

]]> By: Scott http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529836 Scott Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:04:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529836 It's interesting when someone comes out of the wordwork several years after the fact and claims credit for an idea. But after reading the comments, and seeing this guy claim credit for the idea of the Hummer H3 (I told them to make it smaller), the name for Windows Vista, "subtly influcing" games such as spore... I'm sorry, but I think you're just giving credibility to a crackpot. It’s interesting when someone comes out of the wordwork several years after the fact and claims credit for an idea.

But after reading the comments, and seeing this guy claim credit for the idea of the Hummer H3 (I told them to make it smaller), the name for Windows Vista, “subtly influcing” games such as spore… I’m sorry, but I think you’re just giving credibility to a crackpot.

]]> By: Eric Vorheese http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529808 Eric Vorheese Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:37:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529808 Herb, You're claiming that since you gave Chad the idea, he should give you 1% of his success. Here's a twist - what if Youtube failed? What if Chad lost evertyhing and became homeless? If he came to you and asked you to take 1% of his loss, would you take it? would you pay him 1% of the millions he lost? Obviously, the above is an exercise in futility, but the point is this - you really need to let this go. From your comments, you seem to have an extremely deep sense of entitlement when in fact, the only ppl who are entitled to anything are those who have worked for it. Just talking about something doesn't entitle one to anything. You really need to grasp the importance of this concept. I know the other's are joking about this but the bottomline is an idea is nothing, without its execution. You need to take this to heart so that the NEXT time you have an idea, you can take steps to execute it. Pls dont provide more fodder for the peanut gallery with this futile experiment. Let this go and spend your energies towards better things in life - like working on NEW ideas and bringing them to fruition. Herb,

You’re claiming that since you gave Chad the idea, he should give you 1% of his success.

Here’s a twist – what if Youtube failed? What if Chad lost evertyhing and became homeless? If he came to you and asked you to take 1% of his loss, would you take it? would you pay him 1% of the millions he lost?

Obviously, the above is an exercise in futility, but the point is this – you really need to let this go. From your comments, you seem to have an extremely deep sense of entitlement when in fact, the only ppl who are entitled to anything are those who have worked for it. Just talking about something doesn’t entitle one to anything. You really need to grasp the importance of this concept.

I know the other’s are joking about this but the bottomline is an idea is nothing, without its execution. You need to take this to heart so that the NEXT time you have an idea, you can take steps to execute it.

Pls dont provide more fodder for the peanut gallery with this futile experiment. Let this go and spend your energies towards better things in life – like working on NEW ideas and bringing them to fruition.

]]> By: Justine http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529785 Justine Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:55:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529785 btw, I made a nice video for Herbert: http://tastyblogsnack.com/2008/11/10/i-invented-youtube/ btw, I made a nice video for Herbert:

http://tastyblo...vented-youtube/

]]> By: Mircea @ MyTestBox.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-2529729 Mircea @ MyTestBox.com Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:55:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529729 Sorry, but that is just stupid. To let the domain name as a sittig duck for everyone to grab it's, like I said, stupid. When you find a good domain name available YOU BUY IT! Then, you can transfer it to whoever you wish... Sorry, but that is just stupid. To let the domain name as a sittig duck for everyone to grab it’s, like I said, stupid. When you find a good domain name available YOU BUY IT!
Then, you can transfer it to whoever you wish…

]]> By: Mircea @ MyTestBox.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-2529727 Mircea @ MyTestBox.com Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:51:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529727 Why didn'y you just registered the domain name Youtube.com?? Wasn't that expensive even at that time... How much would have cost to register/trademark/copyright the name? Were you THAT bankrupt? Why didn’y you just registered the domain name Youtube.com?? Wasn’t that expensive even at that time…

How much would have cost to register/trademark/copyright the name? Were you THAT bankrupt?

]]> By: Mircea @ MyTestBox.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-1/#comment-2529721 Mircea @ MyTestBox.com Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:47:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529721 Did you record those conversations? Do you have the exchanged emails? How can you tell somebody an idea you know it could be big without at least taking some precautionary measures?? The same thing happened with that so called Google founder...he didn't keep any proofs...well, if you are that negligent then you should keep the mouth shout. Sorry... Another question is you are talking now?? Why not when Youtube was standalone? Why not right after Youtube was bought?? Did you record those conversations? Do you have the exchanged emails? How can you tell somebody an idea you know it could be big without at least taking some precautionary measures??

The same thing happened with that so called Google founder…he didn’t keep any proofs…well, if you are that negligent then you should keep the mouth shout. Sorry…
Another question is you are talking now?? Why not when Youtube was standalone? Why not right after Youtube was bought??

]]> By: Tripflare http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529702 Tripflare Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:34:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529702 Mike, You getting desperate for hits, posting sit like this. Must be a slow news day. Cheers Shane Mike,

You getting desperate for hits, posting sit like this.

Must be a slow news day.

Cheers
Shane

]]> By: James http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529687 James Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:01:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529687 I think Herb Gilliland is actually an Alternate Reality Game Character. He has a stupid response to everything which has led me to this more-than-probable conclusion. I think Herb Gilliland is actually an Alternate Reality Game Character. He has a stupid response to everything which has led me to this more-than-probable conclusion.

]]> By: London Boy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/the-fourth-youtuber/comment-page-2/#comment-2529550 London Boy Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:10:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=27098#comment-2529550 Everyone on this message board owes me $1m as i came up with the idea of an online message board the day i was born. I just forgot to do anything about it but still...... Anyone know a good lawyer - i've got a few suits to file....... Everyone on this message board owes me $1m as i came up with the idea of an online message board the day i was born. I just forgot to do anything about it but still……

Anyone know a good lawyer – i’ve got a few suits to file…….

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