Comments on: Never Mind That $1.7 Billion Loss, Jonathan Schwartz Has A New Plan To Save Sun http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:25:51 -0800 hourly 1 By: joe smith http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2540137 joe smith Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:14:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2540137 Jonathon is an idiot pure and simple. The new 7000 series a fucking joke! They will fail he will fail and they absolutely suck and the industry knows it. HP had record profits, Jonathon blames the economy, same customer set as HP. What a freakin moron! They are completely lost as a company. sinking and losing! Jonathon give your 15 million back you suck ass.... Asshole Jonathon is an idiot pure and simple. The new 7000 series a fucking joke!
They will fail he will fail and they absolutely suck and the industry knows it. HP had record profits, Jonathon blames the economy, same customer set as HP. What a freakin moron! They are completely lost as a company. sinking and losing! Jonathon give your 15 million back you suck ass…. Asshole

]]> By: Wow http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2533828 Wow Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:42:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2533828 This is the funniest thing I have ever seen. Oh. My. God! You nailed it. This is the funniest thing I have ever seen. Oh. My. God! You nailed it.

]]> By: Raguram http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2523197 Raguram Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:11:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2523197 another test super another test super

]]> By: Raguram http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2523194 Raguram Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:09:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2523194 test test test test

]]> By: Anya http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2522189 Anya Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:00:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2522189 Thank you!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: » Blog Archive » Sun’s Schwartz and his Failsafe moment http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2521657 » Blog Archive » Sun’s Schwartz and his Failsafe moment Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:46:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2521657 [...] His strategy of marshalling the company’s assets and harnessing the viral nature of open source dynamics has maintained Sun’s relationships with developers, but nowhere has there been the kind of [...] [...] His strategy of marshalling the company’s assets and harnessing the viral nature of open source dynamics has maintained Sun’s relationships with developers, but nowhere has there been the kind of [...]

]]> By: Schwartz and his Failsafe moment http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2520982 Schwartz and his Failsafe moment Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:11:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2520982 [...] His strategy of marshalling the company’s assets and harnessing the viral nature of open source dynamics has maintained Sun’s relationships with developers, but nowhere has there been the kind of [...] [...] His strategy of marshalling the company’s assets and harnessing the viral nature of open source dynamics has maintained Sun’s relationships with developers, but nowhere has there been the kind of [...]

]]> By: Avatar http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2520560 Avatar Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:48:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2520560 of course i was rambling. but my notes on it are no less truth even so. ;) of course i was rambling. but my notes on it are no less truth even so. ;)

]]> By: babiboi http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2520556 babiboi Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:43:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2520556 it involves open source...? it involves open source…?

]]> By: Nick O'Neill http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2520192 Nick O'Neill Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:14:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2520192 I thought you hadn't had a slow news day since you started Techcrunch ;) I thought you hadn’t had a slow news day since you started Techcrunch ;)

]]> By: Victor Shamanovsky http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2520003 Victor Shamanovsky Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:09:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2520003 Brilliant Brilliant

]]> By: Nakodari http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519748 Nakodari Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:11:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519748 Haha Mike. Nice Reply ! Haha Mike. Nice Reply !

]]> By: Nonsense http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519718 Nonsense Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:55:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519718 Steve Gilmor sucks ass. Steve Gilmor sucks ass.

]]> By: inthewoods http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519559 inthewoods Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:23:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519559 That's what happens when you put a guy in charge who's last success was destroying Sun's meager software business. That’s what happens when you put a guy in charge who’s last success was destroying Sun’s meager software business.

]]> By: Raskin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519531 Raskin Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:42:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519531 lol. Actually, Daniel Kemp IS Jon Heder. lol. Actually, Daniel Kemp IS Jon Heder.

]]> By: Melvin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519423 Melvin Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:39:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519423 Never mind that its market cap is only $4 billion, despite having three times as much annual revenues and $2 billion in cash. ^^^^ They should begin with buying their own stocks... Never mind that its market cap is only $4 billion, despite having three times as much annual revenues and $2 billion in cash.

^^^^

They should begin with buying their own stocks…

]]> By: Anne http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519362 Anne Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:07:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519362 A significant loss in a quarter full of acquisitions isn't necessarily the end of Sun. They have had a busy year. It is worth noting to compare to the NEXT quarter, when it will be possible to see if the losses continue or if Sun begins to gain again. A single quarter of data doesn't give you enough of a picture to speculate, and while the next quarter's numbers will give a better picture only the fiscal year-end numbers will really matter. A significant loss in a quarter full of acquisitions isn’t necessarily the end of Sun. They have had a busy year.

It is worth noting to compare to the NEXT quarter, when it will be possible to see if the losses continue or if Sun begins to gain again.

A single quarter of data doesn’t give you enough of a picture to speculate, and while the next quarter’s numbers will give a better picture only the fiscal year-end numbers will really matter.

]]> By: Gayle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519299 Gayle Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:43:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519299 :D :D :D :D :D :D

]]> By: Kage http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519298 Kage Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:42:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519298 I was just about to put that. You guys should start with the writeup first and then show the video, it really messes up the front page. I was just about to put that. You guys should start with the writeup first and then show the video, it really messes up the front page.

]]> By: Martijn Vreugde http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519295 Martijn Vreugde Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:35:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519295 Hey guys, you need more room in you main colum, the youTube video doesn't fit when it gets to your new section that begins from the second post. Love the site guys Hey guys, you need more room in you main colum, the youTube video doesn’t fit when it gets to your new section that begins from the second post.

Love the site guys

]]> By: Boris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519290 Boris Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:26:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519290 Or, maybe, your just rambling. Fuck. Or, maybe, your just rambling.

Fuck.

]]> By: Avatar http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519282 Avatar Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:14:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519282 WOW. i knew Sun was not doing well but this is abysmal. so they just got 2 billion into debt?. and even if they got 12 billion dlls in revenue. what is their gross profit performance from that?. even with their success with OpenOffice. i have to wonder if the cost they took with OpenOffice 3 development, launch and support does not cost way more than what staroffice is going to be able to produce in a year?. more now than ever with competition from ThinkFree, iWork, Zoho and Even Google Docs for the post MS Office Market (that is what?, around 10-15%?) ugh... if Javafx fails to deliver this year and general java use continues to diminish in the consumer desktop and in the enterprise as it has been doing for the last 3 years. Sun could be well done for by 2010. maybe google will buy them by then if it turns to be a bargain. but then again maybe i am just being pessimistic and they are actually doing great. WOW. i knew Sun was not doing well but this is abysmal. so they just got 2 billion into debt?. and even if they got 12 billion dlls in revenue. what is their gross profit performance from that?. even with their success with OpenOffice. i have to wonder if the cost they took with OpenOffice 3 development, launch and support does not cost way more than what staroffice is going to be able to produce in a year?. more now than ever with competition from ThinkFree, iWork, Zoho and Even Google Docs for the post MS Office Market (that is what?, around 10-15%?) ugh… if Javafx fails to deliver this year and general java use continues to diminish in the consumer desktop and in the enterprise as it has been doing for the last 3 years. Sun could be well done for by 2010. maybe google will buy them by then if it turns to be a bargain. but then again maybe i am just being pessimistic and they are actually doing great.

]]> By: Daniel Kemp http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519276 Daniel Kemp Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:59:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519276 My Point {seesmic_video:{"url_thumbnail":{"value":"http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/i329b741nn_th1.jpg"}"title":{"value":"My Point "}"videoUri":{"value":"http://www.seesmic.com/video/qxeITdUFuB"}}} My Point {seesmic_video:{”url_thumbnail”:{”value”:”http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/i329b741nn_th1.jpg”}”title”:{”value”:”My Point ”}”videoUri”:{”value”:”http://www.seesmic.com/video/qxeITdUFuB”}}}

]]> By: Napoleon Dynamite http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519272 Napoleon Dynamite Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:54:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519272 I'm gonna sue you, for infringing on my look I’m gonna sue you, for infringing on my look

]]> By: Erick Schonfeld http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/never-mind-that-17-billion-loss-jonathan-schwartz-has-a-new-plan-to-save-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-2519263 Erick Schonfeld Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:39:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=25628#comment-2519263 I clearly say it's from two weeks ago. What's your point? I clearly say it’s from two weeks ago. What’s your point?

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