Comments on: LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commercials In Apps, Get Paid http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:34:07 -0800 hourly 1 By: LiveRail Brings Ads Into iPhone Apps (Great.) - PSFK http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2975632 LiveRail Brings Ads Into iPhone Apps (Great.) - PSFK Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:31:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2975632 [...] TechCrunch: LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commercials in Apps, Get Paid [...] [...] TechCrunch: LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commercials in Apps, Get Paid [...]

]]> By: sj b http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2512507 sj b Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:44:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2512507 what about mashing up programs with advertising mashed into it? what about mashing up programs with advertising mashed into it?

]]> By: Jake http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2512445 Jake Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:54:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2512445 From what I understood, free apps are a good way to draw attention to your developing skills and to the apps that you have to pay for? I guess I viewed it as "free publicity" for the developers. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. I understand the developers need to eat and need to have an income, and I'm OK with that as long as it doesn't hurt the user experience too bad. Jake NoteScribe: Premier <a HREF="http://www.notescribe.net" rel="nofollow">Note Taking Software</a> From what I understood, free apps are a good way to draw attention to your developing skills and to the apps that you have to pay for? I guess I viewed it as “free publicity” for the developers. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how it goes. I understand the developers need to eat and need to have an income, and I’m OK with that as long as it doesn’t hurt the user experience too bad.

Jake
NoteScribe: Premier Note Taking Software

]]> By: Free iPhone 3G Apps http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2512283 Free iPhone 3G Apps Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:34:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2512283 ..and then AT&T will step in with crazy data charges for people who stream video ads. And here we go again ;) - Kevan / Free-iPhone-3G-Apps.com ..and then AT&T will step in with crazy data charges for people who stream video ads.

And here we go again ;)

- Kevan / Free-iPhone-3G-Apps.com

]]> By: informednetworker.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2512207 informednetworker.com Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:10:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2512207 <strong>LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commercials In Apps, Get Paid...</strong> Since the launch of Apple's App Store, developers have faced an ongoing dillema: "For Free, or Not For Free"? Putting a price on an application to generate some revenue obviously adds a significant barrier to entry, especially when there are so man... LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commercials In Apps, Get Paid…

Since the launch of Apple’s App Store, developers have faced an ongoing dillema: “For Free, or Not For Free”? Putting a price on an application to generate some revenue obviously adds a significant barrier to entry, especially when there are so man…

]]> By: StationStops http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2512150 StationStops Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:57:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2512150 Under the Apple iPhone developer best practices documentation, the goal is to make the app load as quickly as possible, as typically an iPhone app is only used for a few seconds at a time. This concept throws everything we know about how iPhone users use apps out the window for the almighty dollar. The App Store has done a tremendous job at sales, marketing, and fulfillment - just charge a couple bucks for your app and keep your users happy with no ads! Under the Apple iPhone developer best practices documentation, the goal is to make the app load as quickly as possible, as typically an iPhone app is only used for a few seconds at a time.

This concept throws everything we know about how iPhone users use apps out the window for the almighty dollar.

The App Store has done a tremendous job at sales, marketing, and fulfillment – just charge a couple bucks for your app and keep your users happy with no ads!

]]> By: WIRELESS « Daily Marauder http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511920 WIRELESS « Daily Marauder Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:59:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511920 [...] allowing developers to implement it with a minimal amount of effort and only a few lines of code. (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-pai... [...] [...] allowing developers to implement it with a minimal amount of effort and only a few lines of code. (http://www.tech...in-apps-get-pai... [...]

]]> By: Gee http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511753 Gee Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:03:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511753 Wow I was just thinking about this the other day... it might work well is some kinds of apps like long games where a break is nice anyway...? I guess that is still debatable. But as someone who ha created a couple free apps (http://www.rotzy.com is one), its so hard for us to monetize the app without something like ads. I'm leaning towards AdMob's static ads right now but even that can get in the way for people who absolutely hate ads. Remember, it takes tens to hundreds of hours to create these "free" apps too! Wow I was just thinking about this the other day… it might work well is some kinds of apps like long games where a break is nice anyway…? I guess that is still debatable. But as someone who ha created a couple free apps (http://www.rotzy.com is one), its so hard for us to monetize the app without something like ads. I’m leaning towards AdMob’s static ads right now but even that can get in the way for people who absolutely hate ads.

Remember, it takes tens to hundreds of hours to create these “free” apps too!

]]> By: LiveRail Brings Ads Into iPhone Apps (Great.) | PSFK - Trends, Ideas & Inspiration http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511708 LiveRail Brings Ads Into iPhone Apps (Great.) | PSFK - Trends, Ideas & Inspiration Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:16:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511708 [...] LiveRail iPhone AdManager from LiveRail Inc. on Vimeo. TechCrunch: LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commercials in Apps, Get Paid [...] [...] LiveRail iPhone AdManager from LiveRail Inc. on Vimeo. TechCrunch: LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commercials in Apps, Get Paid [...]

]]> By: Hello? http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511615 Hello? Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:47:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511615 Do you adfree, costfree people eat? Who works to provide you with that? Why do you feel so entitled that you should get other people's work for free? Until food, shelter and computers are free, you "no-cost software" people will either be living off the tailcoats of VCs with more dollars than brains or large corporations finding creative ways of swindling you. I wonder why we just had to bail Wall Street out... so much for free. Perhaps we should go back to the honesty of a good wage paid for solid work. Do you adfree, costfree people eat? Who works to provide you with that? Why do you feel so entitled that you should get other people’s work for free?

Until food, shelter and computers are free, you “no-cost software” people will either be living off the tailcoats of VCs with more dollars than brains or large corporations finding creative ways of swindling you. I wonder why we just had to bail Wall Street out… so much for free. Perhaps we should go back to the honesty of a good wage paid for solid work.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511579 Ryan Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:18:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511579 how about graphical or textual ads at first and see how it goes.. ryan @ http://12tb.com how about graphical or textual ads at first and see how it goes..

ryan @
http://12tb.com

]]> By: Updates on iPhone « Digital News blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511458 Updates on iPhone « Digital News blog Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:17:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511458 [...] LiveRail is a recentlyreleased advertising platform for iPhone, that allows iPhone application developers to embed brief video ads into their applications, and generate revenues: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-pai... [...] [...] LiveRail is a recentlyreleased advertising platform for iPhone, that allows iPhone application developers to embed brief video ads into their applications, and generate revenues: http://www.tech...in-apps-get-pai... [...]

]]> By: Charmaine Chen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511316 Charmaine Chen Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:13:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511316 wonderful article!:) wonderful article!:)

]]> By: Sergiu Biris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511266 Sergiu Biris Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:52:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511266 Congratulations to LiveRail being the first on the market with this! Very impressive as it's a big step towards monetizing mobile content. Great job! Congratulations to LiveRail being the first on the market with this! Very impressive as it’s a big step towards monetizing mobile content. Great job!

]]> By: Sergiu Biriş » Blog Archive » LiveRail - video advertising pentru iPhone http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511261 Sergiu Biriş » Blog Archive » LiveRail - video advertising pentru iPhone Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:45:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511261 [...] lanseaza prima platforma de video advertising pentru iPhone. Si tot pentru prima oara ajunge pe TechCrunch (it was about time!). Felicitari Mark, Andrei, Fedo & Co!! Postat de Sergiu Categoria: [...] [...] lanseaza prima platforma de video advertising pentru iPhone. Si tot pentru prima oara ajunge pe TechCrunch (it was about time!). Felicitari Mark, Andrei, Fedo & Co!! Postat de Sergiu Categoria: [...]

]]> By: manny.b http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511221 manny.b Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:28:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511221 If it means free apps this is really great as long as somebody can create an app that stops the ads or the users own kill switch should be installed. If it means free apps this is really great as long as somebody can create an app that stops the ads or the users own kill switch should be installed.

]]> By: Panos Karageorgakis http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511191 Panos Karageorgakis Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:53:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511191 I agree with Neil and I think that's the most profound reason ads are not welcome - they cost money to users. If I was to open an app while not on WiFi, and discovered that I'm being charged by downloading an ad, I would probably delete the app right away and never go back at it. Not to mention that users should be notified by such behavior, not by reading the terms of use of an app but by moving all such apps into a new category named "Adware". So there would be paid apps, free apps and adware apps and I bet people would still prefer free over adware. I also agree with other people's comments that I don't see Apple staying out of this, by either changing the SDK to specifically ban such behavior or ban such apps from the App Store. Finally, I don't see anything really impressive in this technology, unless transcoding videos to a lower resolution is something totally new and high-tech. The most challenging issue about these ads would be relevance, and if Apple would permit this behavior then I, as a developer would surely trust King Google rather than a novice in the area. I agree with Neil and I think that’s the most profound reason ads are not welcome – they cost money to users. If I was to open an app while not on WiFi, and discovered that I’m being charged by downloading an ad, I would probably delete the app right away and never go back at it.

Not to mention that users should be notified by such behavior, not by reading the terms of use of an app but by moving all such apps into a new category named “Adware”. So there would be paid apps, free apps and adware apps and I bet people would still prefer free over adware. I also agree with other people’s comments that I don’t see Apple staying out of this, by either changing the SDK to specifically ban such behavior or ban such apps from the App Store.

Finally, I don’t see anything really impressive in this technology, unless transcoding videos to a lower resolution is something totally new and high-tech. The most challenging issue about these ads would be relevance, and if Apple would permit this behavior then I, as a developer would surely trust King Google rather than a novice in the area.

]]> By: Neil http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511168 Neil Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:19:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511168 Free should mean free! Free of costs and free of ads! As data downloads (the ads) cost the user money, the app is no longer free! Unless you are on an unlimited plan the free version will cost you a lot more than the $2 or $3 most of the apps cost. Free should mean free! Free of costs and free of ads! As data downloads (the ads) cost the user money, the app is no longer free!
Unless you are on an unlimited plan the free version will cost you a lot more than the $2 or $3 most of the apps cost.

]]> By: LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commericals In Apps, Get Paid http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511126 LiveRail Lets iPhone Developers Put Commericals In Apps, Get Paid Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:14:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511126 [...] the rest of this great post here Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and [...] [...] the rest of this great post here Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and [...]

]]> By: Brad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511079 Brad Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:26:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511079 its pathetic how techcrunch doesn't have a semi-unified voice on things. arrington will bash a lot of shit, and for whatever reason whoever wrote this review is giving 100x credit to a simple idea. 'this is some serious technology, chipotle down the st, blah blah'. companies have been trying to pull this shit for years and there is absolutely zero indication that this company is better put to pull it off before someone else, heck i'd bet you admob already offers something like this. sheesh, i find myself following techrunch out of habit rather than looking for intelligent stuff. so, yes, you got me hooked, but not in the good way. its pathetic how techcrunch doesn’t have a semi-unified voice on things.
arrington will bash a lot of shit, and for whatever reason whoever wrote this review is giving 100x credit to a simple idea.

‘this is some serious technology, chipotle down the st, blah blah’. companies have been trying to pull this shit for years and there is absolutely zero indication that this company is better put to pull it off before someone else, heck i’d bet you admob already offers something like this.

sheesh, i find myself following techrunch out of habit rather than looking for intelligent stuff. so, yes, you got me hooked, but not in the good way.

]]> By: javaguy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511063 javaguy Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:14:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511063 Smart idea. Smart idea.

]]> By: kj http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511034 kj Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:52:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511034 typo in headline typo in headline

]]> By: bobby_d http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511024 bobby_d Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:44:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511024 err.. offer and adfree version @ a reasonable price point. err.. offer and adfree version @ a reasonable price point.

]]> By: bobby_d http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511023 bobby_d Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:42:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511023 well couldn't iphone developers offer both? An ad supported version to offset development costs, and let users try out the product. Afterwords, offer an adfree version, so users can directly access their game experience (deleting the few lines of live rail embed code). Ppl need to let go of the 'no ad' entitlement mentality. The problem with most ads are they aren't very creative, and offer nothing to the end user. However, if ads were better produced, and entertained as well as advertise, it'd be a win-win, instead of a zero-sum game--but I digress. well couldn’t iphone developers offer both? An ad supported version to offset development costs, and let users try out the product. Afterwords, offer an adfree version, so users can directly access their game experience (deleting the few lines of live rail embed code).

Ppl need to let go of the ‘no ad’ entitlement mentality. The problem with most ads are they aren’t very creative, and offer nothing to the end user. However, if ads were better produced, and entertained as well as advertise, it’d be a win-win, instead of a zero-sum game–but I digress.

]]> By: Aaron Richard http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/liverail-lets-iphone-developers-put-commericals-in-apps-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-2511018 Aaron Richard Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:38:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23942#comment-2511018 *wanted. Damnit. Use Disqus, TC. *wanted. Damnit. Use Disqus, TC.

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