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		<title>By: cfur</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2512581</link>
		<dc:creator>cfur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I don&#039;t see any evidence anyone learned anything last time around.</description>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-2/#comment-2512186</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We do not take pleasure in seeing companies fail.&quot; - TechCrunch

That&#039;s like saying race car fans don&#039;t like the multi-car pileups, or hockey fans hate the fights.  Let&#039;s just be honest about it.  Geeks have &quot;i-told-you-so&quot; type personalities, and as such, love to hear about other people&#039;s failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We do not take pleasure in seeing companies fail.&#8221; &#8211; TechCrunch</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying race car fans don&#8217;t like the multi-car pileups, or hockey fans hate the fights.  Let&#8217;s just be honest about it.  Geeks have &#8220;i-told-you-so&#8221; type personalities, and as such, love to hear about other people&#8217;s failures.</p>
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		<title>By: miles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2511535</link>
		<dc:creator>miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t write this:

&quot;Sorry. I really don’t know what I wrote. Must be the four Red Bulls I had this morning.
Please disregard.&quot;

That was someone faking to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t write this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry. I really don’t know what I wrote. Must be the four Red Bulls I had this morning.<br />
Please disregard.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was someone faking to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Spanishgringo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-2/#comment-2511230</link>
		<dc:creator>Spanishgringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, keep up the good work.

I do not think that TC is sensationalizing the downturn, nor are you making the deadpool or layoff tracker any type of sport.

Other people, however, will enjoy the &quot;sport&quot; of tracking the downturn, but you cannot help that.  As to why they see the sport in it I do not know, but I suspect it mostly comes from people who:
(a) worked at a startup and saw a lot of stupidity and arrogance in the 2.0 bubble
(b) never jumped into 2.0 and are experiencing schadenfreude looking at what&#039;s happening to the &quot;others&quot; who went ahead and dove into 2.0
(c) never understood how AdSense could support and prosper as widespread VC-evenutually-IPO-or-acquisition opportunity .  Most 2.0 sites seemed to be purely based on AdSense or some &quot;future advertising opportunity&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, keep up the good work.</p>
<p>I do not think that TC is sensationalizing the downturn, nor are you making the deadpool or layoff tracker any type of sport.</p>
<p>Other people, however, will enjoy the &#8220;sport&#8221; of tracking the downturn, but you cannot help that.  As to why they see the sport in it I do not know, but I suspect it mostly comes from people who:<br />
(a) worked at a startup and saw a lot of stupidity and arrogance in the 2.0 bubble<br />
(b) never jumped into 2.0 and are experiencing schadenfreude looking at what&#8217;s happening to the &#8220;others&#8221; who went ahead and dove into 2.0<br />
(c) never understood how AdSense could support and prosper as widespread VC-evenutually-IPO-or-acquisition opportunity .  Most 2.0 sites seemed to be purely based on AdSense or some &#8220;future advertising opportunity&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Almost Famous &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-2/#comment-2511122</link>
		<dc:creator>Almost Famous &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That kind of attention can lead startups to dither like publicly traded companies before making hard decisions &#8212; when our only competitive advantage is speed. And it has prompted some startups to turn on blogs just for covering the news. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That kind of attention can lead startups to dither like publicly traded companies before making hard decisions &#8212; when our only competitive advantage is speed. And it has prompted some startups to turn on blogs just for covering the news. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Page</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-2/#comment-2511002</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t shoot the messenger? Hah! But this messenger gets paid lots of money to be the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t shoot the messenger? Hah! But this messenger gets paid lots of money to be the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: RefundLocator.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510990</link>
		<dc:creator>RefundLocator.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If possible please send the comment back to me.  i will get the message and understand.  my comments mean alot to me.  i did manage to get a snipet from backtype but im still missin a chunk. thanks in advance.

and to all the phantom haters i will stack the relevancy of my comments against any of ya&#039;all anyday.
look below somebodies been talking about you fools!
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/magazine/16-11/st_essay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If possible please send the comment back to me.  i will get the message and understand.  my comments mean alot to me.  i did manage to get a snipet from backtype but im still missin a chunk. thanks in advance.</p>
<p>and to all the phantom haters i will stack the relevancy of my comments against any of ya&#8217;all anyday.<br />
look below somebodies been talking about you fools!<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/magazine/16-11/st_essay" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/magazine/16-11/st_essay'>http://www.wire.../16-11/st_essay</a></p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-2/#comment-2510954</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually visited TechCrunch to read about any Tech companies doing layoffs. It helps me know how the market is reacting, and in being able to correctly adapt to it. Do keep it up as it&#039;s very helpful!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually visited TechCrunch to read about any Tech companies doing layoffs. It helps me know how the market is reacting, and in being able to correctly adapt to it. Do keep it up as it&#8217;s very helpful!!</p>
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		<title>By: Envy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510903</link>
		<dc:creator>Envy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s not &quot;phantom comment hackers&quot; removing your comments,  its the ADMINS of this site removing your spam comments....  How can you build the next best,  killing google, search thing.... when you don&#039;t know the difference between a &quot;Hacker&quot; and a site admin... you fucktard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s not &#8220;phantom comment hackers&#8221; removing your comments,  its the ADMINS of this site removing your spam comments&#8230;.  How can you build the next best,  killing google, search thing&#8230;. when you don&#8217;t know the difference between a &#8220;Hacker&#8221; and a site admin&#8230; you fucktard</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-2/#comment-2510886</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay seriously. This is dumb.

Were ANY of you around for &quot;The Bust&quot;? Hell, at least Web 1.0 at left a pretty strong foundation behind. Web 2.0 will leave, at best: Facebook, MySpace, LinkedIn and YouTube. The rest of it&#039;s legacy? A bunch of the crappiest ideas that mainstream America never, ever bought. You think Twitter is changing the world? Not even close. Sure, it had it&#039;s day in the sun, but nowadays it&#039;s clogged with a bunch of self-obsessed morons who think the rest of us give a shit about the type of cappuchino they just drank. That, and PR people scrambling to add &quot;Web 2.0&quot; to their resumes, since their agencies have just now realized that they&#039;re more fucked than they were in 2001.

TechCrunch has actually provided a little value to the Web 2.0 disaster. They take a look at all your crappy ideas, and if they like it, you have a tiny shred of hope one of the Web 1.0 survivors might shell out $20 mil for you once everyone realizes you haven&#039;t a prayer at positive revenue.

TechCrunch gets it, even if many of you are still living in a bubble.

99% of this last generation of start-ups, whether you&#039;ve realized it or not, are now deadpools. Maybe that&#039;s why you&#039;re so offended by TC&#039;s coverage.  Even if you have money in the bank, even if you&#039;ve slashed your workforce to &quot;weather the downturn&quot;, you&#039;re dead. You will never regain the momentum lost. As soon as your uniques flatten off from the lack of marketing and innovation, your VCs will look at ways to minimize their losses. You think because you got the money that you absolutely get to keep it?? Think again.

TechCrunch is doing you a favor by giving you as much advance warning as possible. To reference Jack Nicholson,,,, &quot;You want the truth? (Maybe) You can&#039;t handle the truth.&quot;

Web 2.0 will go down in tech history as a period of pure hype. So, so little substance. None of you are &quot;changing the world,&quot; as at least one commenter has claimed in this thread. 

Yet, little do most of you know, there are now a few underground tech movements doing just that. There are things in the works that will make all you little Harvard MBAs run scared back to your midwestern hometowns. You don&#039;t get tech. You were trying to sell ice to Eskimos, and for awhile you had Sand Hill snowed. But that&#039;s changing fast. 

The geeks are returning to the Valley en masse and have plans to retake control. The VCs know &#039;em. They made them money before. They&#039;ll make them money again. You all? Didn&#039;t. Web 2.0 is dead. Thank God.

(Now, can y&#039;all get the hell off the 101 please?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay seriously. This is dumb.</p>
<p>Were ANY of you around for &#8220;The Bust&#8221;? Hell, at least Web 1.0 at left a pretty strong foundation behind. Web 2.0 will leave, at best: Facebook, MySpace, LinkedIn and YouTube. The rest of it&#8217;s legacy? A bunch of the crappiest ideas that mainstream America never, ever bought. You think Twitter is changing the world? Not even close. Sure, it had it&#8217;s day in the sun, but nowadays it&#8217;s clogged with a bunch of self-obsessed morons who think the rest of us give a shit about the type of cappuchino they just drank. That, and PR people scrambling to add &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; to their resumes, since their agencies have just now realized that they&#8217;re more fucked than they were in 2001.</p>
<p>TechCrunch has actually provided a little value to the Web 2.0 disaster. They take a look at all your crappy ideas, and if they like it, you have a tiny shred of hope one of the Web 1.0 survivors might shell out $20 mil for you once everyone realizes you haven&#8217;t a prayer at positive revenue.</p>
<p>TechCrunch gets it, even if many of you are still living in a bubble.</p>
<p>99% of this last generation of start-ups, whether you&#8217;ve realized it or not, are now deadpools. Maybe that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re so offended by TC&#8217;s coverage.  Even if you have money in the bank, even if you&#8217;ve slashed your workforce to &#8220;weather the downturn&#8221;, you&#8217;re dead. You will never regain the momentum lost. As soon as your uniques flatten off from the lack of marketing and innovation, your VCs will look at ways to minimize their losses. You think because you got the money that you absolutely get to keep it?? Think again.</p>
<p>TechCrunch is doing you a favor by giving you as much advance warning as possible. To reference Jack Nicholson,,,, &#8220;You want the truth? (Maybe) You can&#8217;t handle the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Web 2.0 will go down in tech history as a period of pure hype. So, so little substance. None of you are &#8220;changing the world,&#8221; as at least one commenter has claimed in this thread. </p>
<p>Yet, little do most of you know, there are now a few underground tech movements doing just that. There are things in the works that will make all you little Harvard MBAs run scared back to your midwestern hometowns. You don&#8217;t get tech. You were trying to sell ice to Eskimos, and for awhile you had Sand Hill snowed. But that&#8217;s changing fast. </p>
<p>The geeks are returning to the Valley en masse and have plans to retake control. The VCs know &#8216;em. They made them money before. They&#8217;ll make them money again. You all? Didn&#8217;t. Web 2.0 is dead. Thank God.</p>
<p>(Now, can y&#8217;all get the hell off the 101 please?)</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510857</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Arrington, for standing your ground. If you&#039;ll notice, that those critics are basically PR hype machines for boosting VC investments. I&#039;m sure they&#039;d disagree, but that&#039;s what they are in essence. 

A lot of these startups are absolute rubbish and when they fail, people can learn from those mistakes if they are aware of them.

Long Live the DEADPOOL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Arrington, for standing your ground. If you&#8217;ll notice, that those critics are basically PR hype machines for boosting VC investments. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d disagree, but that&#8217;s what they are in essence. </p>
<p>A lot of these startups are absolute rubbish and when they fail, people can learn from those mistakes if they are aware of them.</p>
<p>Long Live the DEADPOOL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510790</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first: mike isn&#039;t the one doing the layoffs (afaik), others are.  so i agree, it&#039;s rather short-sighted to blame him / TC and &quot;shoot the messenger&quot;.  they are simply reporting what is happening.

second: and &quot;what is happening&quot; in the startup scene is useful information that other entrepreneurs &amp; investors should be aware of, in order to adjust their strategies accordingly.

third: personally i don&#039;t think the &quot;downturn&quot; is as bad as most folks are making it out to be, at least for the smaller / newer end of the startup world.  tho the rest of the economy may be in tough times (some might say catastrophic), overall e-commerce &amp; internet advertising growth is likely still growing at ~20-30% annually, or flat at worst.  display advertising will be hurt most, but PPC advertising won&#039;t be affected that much, and it&#039;s possible since it&#039;s a more measurable form of advertising it could even benefit from a pullback in &#039;traditional&#039; advertising.

lastly, i would say there&#039;s a little bit of theater being created here by later-stage companies and investors who have troubled business models / portfolio companies.  the churn &amp; upheaval in *mostly* uncorrelated markets is excellent cover for people to dump and/or make excuses for their losers.  while this is a bit of a head-fake, it&#039;s not unusual or unexpected.  it&#039;s also probably not too much of an exaggeration to suggest that some investors may even be trying to use the bad news as leverage for future negotiations.

however, let me be clear about one thing -- for companies that DO have their shit together and have solid business models &amp; good prospects for growth &amp; revenue -- i would not suggest you get too frightened.  in fact, one could argue that the few companies that have a clue should press for leverage themselves, since they may be few &amp; far between.

so if you ARE executing &amp; making money &amp; know your metrics, don&#039;t be fooled into raising capital on too disadvantageous terms.  it&#039;s fine to have some extra dry powder in a tough market, but set your own terms -- the VCs are probably at least as desperate as anyone else out there to invest in good companies.

all that aside: layoffs &amp; fucked companies do happen. SSDD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first: mike isn&#8217;t the one doing the layoffs (afaik), others are.  so i agree, it&#8217;s rather short-sighted to blame him / TC and &#8220;shoot the messenger&#8221;.  they are simply reporting what is happening.</p>
<p>second: and &#8220;what is happening&#8221; in the startup scene is useful information that other entrepreneurs &amp; investors should be aware of, in order to adjust their strategies accordingly.</p>
<p>third: personally i don&#8217;t think the &#8220;downturn&#8221; is as bad as most folks are making it out to be, at least for the smaller / newer end of the startup world.  tho the rest of the economy may be in tough times (some might say catastrophic), overall e-commerce &amp; internet advertising growth is likely still growing at ~20-30% annually, or flat at worst.  display advertising will be hurt most, but PPC advertising won&#8217;t be affected that much, and it&#8217;s possible since it&#8217;s a more measurable form of advertising it could even benefit from a pullback in &#8216;traditional&#8217; advertising.</p>
<p>lastly, i would say there&#8217;s a little bit of theater being created here by later-stage companies and investors who have troubled business models / portfolio companies.  the churn &amp; upheaval in *mostly* uncorrelated markets is excellent cover for people to dump and/or make excuses for their losers.  while this is a bit of a head-fake, it&#8217;s not unusual or unexpected.  it&#8217;s also probably not too much of an exaggeration to suggest that some investors may even be trying to use the bad news as leverage for future negotiations.</p>
<p>however, let me be clear about one thing &#8212; for companies that DO have their shit together and have solid business models &amp; good prospects for growth &amp; revenue &#8212; i would not suggest you get too frightened.  in fact, one could argue that the few companies that have a clue should press for leverage themselves, since they may be few &amp; far between.</p>
<p>so if you ARE executing &amp; making money &amp; know your metrics, don&#8217;t be fooled into raising capital on too disadvantageous terms.  it&#8217;s fine to have some extra dry powder in a tough market, but set your own terms &#8212; the VCs are probably at least as desperate as anyone else out there to invest in good companies.</p>
<p>all that aside: layoffs &amp; fucked companies do happen. SSDD.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthLocator.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510758</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthLocator.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone&#039;s been cherry picken comments from here again.   what goes around comes around, suit yourself.  what happened to democracy?  i now feel like a reporter at a john mccain rally being quarantined by the secret service from mingling with the crowd.  

Nothing worse than  &quot;phantom comment hackers.&quot;

FakeLocator.com-spill the real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone&#8217;s been cherry picken comments from here again.   what goes around comes around, suit yourself.  what happened to democracy?  i now feel like a reporter at a john mccain rally being quarantined by the secret service from mingling with the crowd.  </p>
<p>Nothing worse than  &#8220;phantom comment hackers.&#8221;</p>
<p>FakeLocator.com-spill the real</p>
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		<title>By: oregonnerd</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510738</link>
		<dc:creator>oregonnerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world don&#039;t you know it&#039;s all your fault?  After all, McCaine and Obama are.
--Glenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world don&#8217;t you know it&#8217;s all your fault?  After all, McCaine and Obama are.<br />
&#8211;Glenn</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510608</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article:

&gt;&gt; &quot;We do not take pleasure in seeing companies fail.&quot;

Give me a break.  TechCrunch loves reporting on failed companies.  Of course it&#039;s politically incorrect to say &quot;we enjoy seeing companies fail&quot;.  No one will say it.  But TechCrunch writers are human, and humans often take pleasure in others failures.  It makes some people feel better about themselves, when others fail.  I&#039;m not saying TechCrunch likes all failures.  But of course, they enjoy some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; &#8220;We do not take pleasure in seeing companies fail.&#8221;</p>
<p>Give me a break.  TechCrunch loves reporting on failed companies.  Of course it&#8217;s politically incorrect to say &#8220;we enjoy seeing companies fail&#8221;.  No one will say it.  But TechCrunch writers are human, and humans often take pleasure in others failures.  It makes some people feel better about themselves, when others fail.  I&#8217;m not saying TechCrunch likes all failures.  But of course, they enjoy some.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510544</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, I may not have expressed myself correctly, i meant to say that techcrunch is great and I would want it to report facts just as I would any other media outlet, and not filter info for fear it would affect markets/stock valuations... so if a company lays off employees or if a company goes out of business, i would like to know... 
long live Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, I may not have expressed myself correctly, i meant to say that techcrunch is great and I would want it to report facts just as I would any other media outlet, and not filter info for fear it would affect markets/stock valuations&#8230; so if a company lays off employees or if a company goes out of business, i would like to know&#8230;<br />
long live Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Shan Sinha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510536</link>
		<dc:creator>Shan Sinha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike- 

And if someone hasn&#039;t said it before, the coverage of layoffs is valuable to those of us who are actually hiring at the moment.  It&#039;s not as if every company in the world is only laying off.  It gives us an opportunity to find some potentially great folks!

If you are affected by this downturn and you happen to be a great engineer still looking for a great startup to work at, please contact me!

Shan
shans ( a t ) docverse ( d o t ) com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike- </p>
<p>And if someone hasn&#8217;t said it before, the coverage of layoffs is valuable to those of us who are actually hiring at the moment.  It&#8217;s not as if every company in the world is only laying off.  It gives us an opportunity to find some potentially great folks!</p>
<p>If you are affected by this downturn and you happen to be a great engineer still looking for a great startup to work at, please contact me!</p>
<p>Shan<br />
shans ( a t ) docverse ( d o t ) com</p>
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		<title>By: douchery</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-/#comment-2510523</link>
		<dc:creator>douchery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I have to go beat the monkey and suck on my douche bag...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I have to go beat the monkey and suck on my douche bag&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Henley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510522</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please do not mention the NY Times.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Henley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510521</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course. Could you give us all an example now of unbiased, objective, sensible journalism, in the US?
Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course. Could you give us all an example now of unbiased, objective, sensible journalism, in the US?<br />
Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Henley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-/#comment-2510511</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto. Ditto,
Michael, is there anyway you can block this a**hole&#039;s IP address. Many TC readers would appreciate your effort...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto. Ditto,<br />
Michael, is there anyway you can block this a**hole&#8217;s IP address. Many TC readers would appreciate your effort&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510506</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason. You suck!
What is wrong with you? Are you on medication?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason. You suck!<br />
What is wrong with you? Are you on medication?</p>
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		<title>By: jason goldberg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510505</link>
		<dc:creator>jason goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not responsible for some/all the posts here. It depends. I am not sure.
So, what the heck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not responsible for some/all the posts here. It depends. I am not sure.<br />
So, what the heck!</p>
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		<title>By: antje wilsch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-2510503</link>
		<dc:creator>antje wilsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing VC backed companies vs. non-funded start-ups is one thing. If VC backed comapnies were a bellweather of ALL start-ups then that might make more sense, but tracking funded companies shows that VCs in general tend to follow trends they self-perpetuate, so i wouldn&#039;t lump VC backed start-ups and regular start-ups together as indicators of what&#039;s going on in the start-up world as a whole. VC backed companies have a lot more resources. But non-funded companies might have more at stake (ie they don&#039;t have the security of millions in the bank and thus try that much harder). And again VC backed companies only account for &gt;1% of all start-up companies who actually seek funding.

Comparing layoffs at large companies is much diff than tracking layoffs of either (VC backed ofr non-funded start-ups) because it could be indicative the markets as a whole. Or - could be indicative of bad management &amp; planning.

So while &quot;deadpool&quot; and &quot;layoff trackers&quot; might sound harsh, the data supplied in each, taken in context &amp; relevancy, is helpful to all start-ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing VC backed companies vs. non-funded start-ups is one thing. If VC backed comapnies were a bellweather of ALL start-ups then that might make more sense, but tracking funded companies shows that VCs in general tend to follow trends they self-perpetuate, so i wouldn&#8217;t lump VC backed start-ups and regular start-ups together as indicators of what&#8217;s going on in the start-up world as a whole. VC backed companies have a lot more resources. But non-funded companies might have more at stake (ie they don&#8217;t have the security of millions in the bank and thus try that much harder). And again VC backed companies only account for &gt;1% of all start-up companies who actually seek funding.</p>
<p>Comparing layoffs at large companies is much diff than tracking layoffs of either (VC backed ofr non-funded start-ups) because it could be indicative the markets as a whole. Or &#8211; could be indicative of bad management &amp; planning.</p>
<p>So while &#8220;deadpool&#8221; and &#8220;layoff trackers&#8221; might sound harsh, the data supplied in each, taken in context &amp; relevancy, is helpful to all start-ups.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Goldberg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/22/ignoring-downturns-is-unhealthy-and-dangerous/comment-page-/#comment-2510501</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOOOOOhhhhh!!!!  &quot;RACISM&quot;  The typical obtuse come back of very small, retarded onanists adolescent minds,,, like &#039;lolhead&#039; and &#039;matt&#039; who obviously believe that blacks should be invisible and beyond any comment, reproach, jokes, etc.
So, nobody, nobody!! is allowed to ask ANYTHING about Barack Obama&#039;s background, associations, upbringing, etc. OOOOOhhhh NOOOOO... IT IS RACISM!!! 
In a perverse, liberal/socialist way, it is like saying that blacks are not humans like the rest of us.  
You idiots make me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOOOOhhhhh!!!!  &#8220;RACISM&#8221;  The typical obtuse come back of very small, retarded onanists adolescent minds,,, like &#8216;lolhead&#8217; and &#8216;matt&#8217; who obviously believe that blacks should be invisible and beyond any comment, reproach, jokes, etc.<br />
So, nobody, nobody!! is allowed to ask ANYTHING about Barack Obama&#8217;s background, associations, upbringing, etc. OOOOOhhhh NOOOOO&#8230; IT IS RACISM!!!<br />
In a perverse, liberal/socialist way, it is like saying that blacks are not humans like the rest of us.<br />
You idiots make me sick.</p>
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