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		<title>By: Clica Aqui &#187; Contextualizando : Tendências em Aplicações Sociais para 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clica Aqui &#187; Contextualizando : Tendências em Aplicações Sociais para 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nas redes sociais; d) a consagração dos agregadores de conteúdo, da inteligência coletiva e das conversações on-line como uma mídia; e) a popularização das redes móveis 3G e o surgimento de inúmeros e [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Battelle Starts Searching For His Replacement At FM Publishing &#124; Viningmedia Nieuws</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2750552</link>
		<dc:creator>John Battelle Starts Searching For His Replacement At FM Publishing &#124; Viningmedia Nieuws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] level.&#8221; The blog advertising network is trying to branch out into something called &#8220;conversational marketing,&#8221; which it is also trying at the same time to invent. After shopping the company around last year and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] level.&#8221; The blog advertising network is trying to branch out into something called &#8220;conversational marketing,&#8221; which it is also trying at the same time to invent. After shopping the company around last year and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Battelle Starts Searching For His Replacement At FM Publishing</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2750504</link>
		<dc:creator>John Battelle Starts Searching For His Replacement At FM Publishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] level.&#8221; The blog advertising network is trying to branch out into something called &#8220;conversational marketing,&#8221; which it is also trying at the same time to invent. After shopping the company around last year and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Evolved Advertising: &#8220;Engagement&#8221; &#124; Jason Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2509144</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolved Advertising: &#8220;Engagement&#8221; &#124; Jason Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] morning. The article is about a service that began in 2005 but has finally found it&#8217;s market. Read more about Federated Media &amp; The Conversation Marketing Tool Box Here.  Here is an excerpt:  &#8220;The goal, says Federated Media, isn’t just to track ad impressions [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] morning. The article is about a service that began in 2005 but has finally found it&#8217;s market. Read more about Federated Media &amp; The Conversation Marketing Tool Box Here.  Here is an excerpt:  &#8220;The goal, says Federated Media, isn’t just to track ad impressions [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Linkdump 13 &#124; ettf.net</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2505741</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkdump 13 &#124; ettf.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch&#8217;s post on Federated Media&#8217;s new way of measuring campaigns [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Conversation as marketing &#8212; Vad NU!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conversation as marketing &#8212; Vad NU!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all great. I like conversational marketing, as it&#8217;s called. But only some parts of it. Because fundamental parts are actually cunningly evil in their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Melancon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2503940</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Melancon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy recursive advertisement/news story/&quot;conversation&quot; Batman.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2503209</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This feature might add some transparency to less than reputable numbers reported to clients in previous conversational marketing campaigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This feature might add some transparency to less than reputable numbers reported to clients in previous conversational marketing campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: Fareed Harlie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2503172</link>
		<dc:creator>Fareed Harlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The value in the concept of conversational marketing sounds great, but the reality is that there is too much risk and not enough probability for reward for brands to adopt conversational marketing with this gray area approach.

Risks:
1. How successful of a seeding mechanism is this?  What is the probability that any campaign will actually take off?
2. How much control does a brand have over negative posts and comments?
3. Even if there is some level of control (I doubt there is any systematic or automated approach), will brands, agencies, and advertisers be willing to devote the necessary resources to manage negative postings and comments?

Reward:
1.  Viral Word of Mouth Campaign spreads through trusted sources and results in a 5x performance increase over standard campaigns.

Bottom Line: 
Why would advertisers want to take significant risk if there is low probability for reward?  It doesn&#039;t seem as though placing an ad on an influential/connected/well-read blogger&#039;s site HOPING that other bloggers write a positive post linking to the brand or readers comment is a highly probable way of seeding conversation?  Why will bloggers or readers take these actions and how often will their interests align with the brand in an advertisement?

It seems like you can&#039;t play both sides of wanting seeding for a campaign to be highly successful while not overtly directing bloggers and users how to post and comment.  Not that I am a total fan of pay per post, but it seems to make more sense for brands given that users and brands are on the same page; leaving it up to users to decide what to do is opening yourself up to too much risk and not enough reward.

It would be great to hear a brand&#039;s perspective on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The value in the concept of conversational marketing sounds great, but the reality is that there is too much risk and not enough probability for reward for brands to adopt conversational marketing with this gray area approach.</p>
<p>Risks:<br />
1. How successful of a seeding mechanism is this?  What is the probability that any campaign will actually take off?<br />
2. How much control does a brand have over negative posts and comments?<br />
3. Even if there is some level of control (I doubt there is any systematic or automated approach), will brands, agencies, and advertisers be willing to devote the necessary resources to manage negative postings and comments?</p>
<p>Reward:<br />
1.  Viral Word of Mouth Campaign spreads through trusted sources and results in a 5x performance increase over standard campaigns.</p>
<p>Bottom Line:<br />
Why would advertisers want to take significant risk if there is low probability for reward?  It doesn&#8217;t seem as though placing an ad on an influential/connected/well-read blogger&#8217;s site HOPING that other bloggers write a positive post linking to the brand or readers comment is a highly probable way of seeding conversation?  Why will bloggers or readers take these actions and how often will their interests align with the brand in an advertisement?</p>
<p>It seems like you can&#8217;t play both sides of wanting seeding for a campaign to be highly successful while not overtly directing bloggers and users how to post and comment.  Not that I am a total fan of pay per post, but it seems to make more sense for brands given that users and brands are on the same page; leaving it up to users to decide what to do is opening yourself up to too much risk and not enough reward.</p>
<p>It would be great to hear a brand&#8217;s perspective on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin F</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502943</link>
		<dc:creator>Darin F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Great comedy here.

All this coming from two dudes in pay per post! An industry that is re-defining spam. 

Seriously guys, wake up. You swim in VERY VERY murky water and both your company names are the antithesis of your end results. 

Please save yourself another black-eye and stop trying to pull the cashmere (i.e. well &#039;spun&#039; wool) over the advertiser, they&#039;re not that dumb. 

Kudos MA. Job well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Great comedy here.</p>
<p>All this coming from two dudes in pay per post! An industry that is re-defining spam. </p>
<p>Seriously guys, wake up. You swim in VERY VERY murky water and both your company names are the antithesis of your end results. </p>
<p>Please save yourself another black-eye and stop trying to pull the cashmere (i.e. well &#8217;spun&#8217; wool) over the advertiser, they&#8217;re not that dumb. </p>
<p>Kudos MA. Job well done.</p>
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		<title>By: preetam mukherjee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502881</link>
		<dc:creator>preetam mukherjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude- 

&quot;It is a pioneer in the automation of mobile and web advertsing by creating the only self serve and fully automated marketplace for CPC and CPM advertising .&quot; 

&gt;&gt; you might want to check out http://adsense.google.com and http://adwords.google.com

P.S.: &quot;RegistRATION is free...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude- </p>
<p>&#8220;It is a pioneer in the automation of mobile and web advertsing by creating the only self serve and fully automated marketplace for CPC and CPM advertising .&#8221; </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; you might want to check out <a href="http://adsense.google.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://adsense.google.com'>http://adsense.google.com</a> and <a href="http://adwords.google.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://adwords.google.com'>http://adwords.google.com</a></p>
<p>P.S.: &#8220;RegistRATION is free&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: carlos taboada</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502874</link>
		<dc:creator>carlos taboada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new start-up  Webmob-ad just came out . It is a pioneer in the automation of mobile and web advertsing by creating the only self serve and fully automated marketplace for CPC and CPM advertising . It supports all types text ads, banners and video ads.  PUBLISHERS EARN THE HIGHEST SPLIT OF THE EARNINGS.  
. Register is  FREE. Our matching tools offers a new approach  to real effective personalized targeting.  Please check it out : http://www.webmob-ad.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new start-up  Webmob-ad just came out . It is a pioneer in the automation of mobile and web advertsing by creating the only self serve and fully automated marketplace for CPC and CPM advertising . It supports all types text ads, banners and video ads.  PUBLISHERS EARN THE HIGHEST SPLIT OF THE EARNINGS.<br />
. Register is  FREE. Our matching tools offers a new approach  to real effective personalized targeting.  Please check it out : <a href="http://www.webmob-ad.com." rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.webmob-ad.com'>http://www.webmob-ad.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: lolec</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502840</link>
		<dc:creator>lolec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you dont mind the *Locator.com guy who spam 1 or 2 times a day. But you mind this guy ? ho, he hit here it hurts right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you dont mind the *Locator.com guy who spam 1 or 2 times a day. But you mind this guy ? ho, he hit here it hurts right?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob McMurtrie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502835</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob McMurtrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mike-

Doesn&#039;t good public relations accomplish the same goal without the stain of a money transfer? Sure, paying for a placement guarantees the message comes out exactly how the company wants, but the damage to reputation when the arrangement is revealed (and as your reference to &quot;early efforts&quot; shows, it always seems to be uncovered) is huge. If PR can get you to 80% accuracy in message delivery why risk the downside to get to 100% accuracy (ye old 80/20 rule)? Am I missing something here?

If you are a company looking at this holistically, I&#039;m not sure you need conversational advertising when other slightly more reputable avenues already exist.

Full disclosure: I work for a PR firm. I hope that doesn&#039;t undermine the legitimacy of these observations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mike-</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t good public relations accomplish the same goal without the stain of a money transfer? Sure, paying for a placement guarantees the message comes out exactly how the company wants, but the damage to reputation when the arrangement is revealed (and as your reference to &#8220;early efforts&#8221; shows, it always seems to be uncovered) is huge. If PR can get you to 80% accuracy in message delivery why risk the downside to get to 100% accuracy (ye old 80/20 rule)? Am I missing something here?</p>
<p>If you are a company looking at this holistically, I&#8217;m not sure you need conversational advertising when other slightly more reputable avenues already exist.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I work for a PR firm. I hope that doesn&#8217;t undermine the legitimacy of these observations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502829</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rather push for better standards, higher quality, and more transparency.&quot;

Great point John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rather push for better standards, higher quality, and more transparency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great point John.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502823</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - I am acting VP Marketing for LoudLaunch (LoudLaunch.com).  I promise you that we will never - ever- ask you to join the LoudLaunch publishing network.  When you write about our advertisers, it will be because of significant news - not because we paid you.

Having said that, I think your slam on businesses (like ours) that connect advertisers with publishers who are willing to write about them for compensation is naive.  It has happened in one way or the other in the traditional media world for.. well... forever.  And there will always be a market for this service.  Being a market maker for a valuable service is a great business - and certainly Ted (and others) have the investors to prove it.  

Should publishers disclose?  Yes.  Should they only write about things that will be relevant to their audience and accretive to their business?  Sure.  But don&#039;t discount the potential of these kinds of businesses.  Rather push for better standards, higher quality, and more transparency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; I am acting VP Marketing for LoudLaunch (LoudLaunch.com).  I promise you that we will never &#8211; ever- ask you to join the LoudLaunch publishing network.  When you write about our advertisers, it will be because of significant news &#8211; not because we paid you.</p>
<p>Having said that, I think your slam on businesses (like ours) that connect advertisers with publishers who are willing to write about them for compensation is naive.  It has happened in one way or the other in the traditional media world for.. well&#8230; forever.  And there will always be a market for this service.  Being a market maker for a valuable service is a great business &#8211; and certainly Ted (and others) have the investors to prove it.  </p>
<p>Should publishers disclose?  Yes.  Should they only write about things that will be relevant to their audience and accretive to their business?  Sure.  But don&#8217;t discount the potential of these kinds of businesses.  Rather push for better standards, higher quality, and more transparency.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Federated Media、ブログの対話を広告に変えるツールを公開</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Federated Media、ブログの対話を広告に変えるツールを公開</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chrisco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502782</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to look into this further, but if &quot;conversational advertising&quot; is what it sounds like it is, then it&#039;s the kind of thing that would be a HUGE negative for me (on many levels, from many sides).  Conversation and advertising should be TOTALLY separate, IMHO.  No gray area.  Conversation here.  And advertising WAAAY over here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to look into this further, but if &#8220;conversational advertising&#8221; is what it sounds like it is, then it&#8217;s the kind of thing that would be a HUGE negative for me (on many levels, from many sides).  Conversation and advertising should be TOTALLY separate, IMHO.  No gray area.  Conversation here.  And advertising WAAAY over here.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this looks good, I would use it..

http://gatesandjobs.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this looks good, I would use it..</p>
<p><a href="http://gatesandjobs.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://gatesandjobs.blogspot.com/'>http://gatesand...s.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: preetam mukherjee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502753</link>
		<dc:creator>preetam mukherjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

Interesting. I hadn&#039;t heard about conversational advertising before this, although I&#039;m pretty sure I have seen it happening. 

Now it&#039;s not even close to being mainstream, right? So, why just tracking tools for conversational ads, and not, say for example, creation tools for conversational ads?

Not to step into your back-n-forth with Ted M., but SocialSpark seems to be providing the tools/services for creating these ads, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>Interesting. I hadn&#8217;t heard about conversational advertising before this, although I&#8217;m pretty sure I have seen it happening. </p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s not even close to being mainstream, right? So, why just tracking tools for conversational ads, and not, say for example, creation tools for conversational ads?</p>
<p>Not to step into your back-n-forth with Ted M., but SocialSpark seems to be providing the tools/services for creating these ads, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: buzzdup.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502750</link>
		<dc:creator>buzzdup.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Federated Media Unleashes The Conversation As An Ad...&lt;/strong&gt;

Federated Media (our advertising partner) has been experimenting with “conversational marketing” almost since their launch in 2005. Today they are launching a new marketing toolbox for advertisers which gives them tools to track all the ways users ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Federated Media Unleashes The Conversation As An Ad&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Federated Media (our advertising partner) has been experimenting with “conversational marketing” almost since their launch in 2005. Today they are launching a new marketing toolbox for advertisers which gives them tools to track all the ways users &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502680</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
Perhaps you haven&#039;t been compensated directly in cash for an individual post, but surely you can admit that your posts and comments are influenced by other compensation. 

“Ted, the difference with anything we’ve ever done was that they were placed in ad units, not editorial.”

While I believe you really wanted to see the movie &quot;Wanted&quot; I don&#039;t see how it is relevant to a blog about tech and startups. 

http://urlbrief.com/92314a

What I do see is 200+ free tickets to an early showing in a private theatre (street value of $4,000 give or take) provided to TechCrunch, in exchange for promotion of the advertiser.  This post was in the editorial content of your blog. If not for the free tickets I don’t see how this post would have ever been a subject of relevance to your readers. It is sponsored content, bought and paid for with movie tickets.

Your own quote:
&quot;Why are MySpace and TechCrunch doing this? Just to say thank you to our readers and encourage warm fuzzy, advertisement-clicking feelings in you all.&quot;

Giving things away doesn&#039;t mitigate the fact that value changed hands in exchange for inclusion within the editorial of your blog.

I am not saying this is wrong, to the contrary I think it is great. You disclosed that there was a relationship in the post and you provided the advertiser a great service. As an advertiser I would buy posts like this all day. I just want you to acknowledge that value is value, no matter if it is cash, movie tickets or a video camera. All of this is sponsored content and should be treated as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
Perhaps you haven&#8217;t been compensated directly in cash for an individual post, but surely you can admit that your posts and comments are influenced by other compensation. </p>
<p>“Ted, the difference with anything we’ve ever done was that they were placed in ad units, not editorial.”</p>
<p>While I believe you really wanted to see the movie &#8220;Wanted&#8221; I don&#8217;t see how it is relevant to a blog about tech and startups. </p>
<p><a href="http://urlbrief.com/92314a" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://urlbrief.com/92314a'>http://urlbrief.com/92314a</a></p>
<p>What I do see is 200+ free tickets to an early showing in a private theatre (street value of $4,000 give or take) provided to TechCrunch, in exchange for promotion of the advertiser.  This post was in the editorial content of your blog. If not for the free tickets I don’t see how this post would have ever been a subject of relevance to your readers. It is sponsored content, bought and paid for with movie tickets.</p>
<p>Your own quote:<br />
&#8220;Why are MySpace and TechCrunch doing this? Just to say thank you to our readers and encourage warm fuzzy, advertisement-clicking feelings in you all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Giving things away doesn&#8217;t mitigate the fact that value changed hands in exchange for inclusion within the editorial of your blog.</p>
<p>I am not saying this is wrong, to the contrary I think it is great. You disclosed that there was a relationship in the post and you provided the advertiser a great service. As an advertiser I would buy posts like this all day. I just want you to acknowledge that value is value, no matter if it is cash, movie tickets or a video camera. All of this is sponsored content and should be treated as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502642</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok Ted, enough spamming for today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok Ted, enough spamming for today.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502640</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted, the difference with anything we&#039;ve ever done was that they were placed in ad units, not editorial. And as far as I know we haven&#039;t run these ads since 2007, when criticism was first brought up.

We have our conflicts noted on the about page, and again in any posts where there is a conflict (and there are very few). And we&#039;ve certainly never entertained the notion of taking money for any post, which is the backbone of your ridiculous business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, the difference with anything we&#8217;ve ever done was that they were placed in ad units, not editorial. And as far as I know we haven&#8217;t run these ads since 2007, when criticism was first brought up.</p>
<p>We have our conflicts noted on the about page, and again in any posts where there is a conflict (and there are very few). And we&#8217;ve certainly never entertained the notion of taking money for any post, which is the backbone of your ridiculous business.</p>
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		<title>By: DP.org &#62; FM Agrees, Transparency Starts with a DP</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/federated-media-unleashes-the-conversation-as-an-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-2502636</link>
		<dc:creator>DP.org &#62; FM Agrees, Transparency Starts with a DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;DP.org &gt; FM Agrees, Transparency Starts with a DP...&lt;/strong&gt;

Announcements like this and others demonstrate that sponsored content continues to grow, and it&#039;s nice to see the transparency value behind disclosure policies come into focus for all participants....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>DP.org &gt; FM Agrees, Transparency Starts with a DP&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Announcements like this and others demonstrate that sponsored content continues to grow, and it&#8217;s nice to see the transparency value behind disclosure policies come into focus for all participants&#8230;.</p>
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