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	<title>Comments on: Confirmed: Microsoft Gives Up On MSN Groups, Hands It Off To Multiply</title>
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		<title>By: Ø´Ø§Øª Ù�ØµØ±Ù�Ù�</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-3052646</link>
		<dc:creator>Ø´Ø§Øª Ù�ØµØ±Ù�Ù�</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the clean look and the non-intrusive ads. I needed something extremely user friendly for those in the group that are not</description>
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		<title>By: Loretta</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2653029</link>
		<dc:creator>Loretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just stopped by to see what was said about BlastGroups.com. I just moved my team from a forum to a BlastGroups. 

I like the clean look and the non-intrusive ads. I needed something extremely user friendly for those in the group that are not up-to-speed on using group sites. It&#039;s working well so far. I hope it stays around.

I looked at many,  many group sites before settling in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stopped by to see what was said about BlastGroups.com. I just moved my team from a forum to a BlastGroups. </p>
<p>I like the clean look and the non-intrusive ads. I needed something extremely user friendly for those in the group that are not up-to-speed on using group sites. It&#8217;s working well so far. I hope it stays around.</p>
<p>I looked at many,  many group sites before settling in.</p>
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		<title>By: Raewyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raewyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been trying to migrate to Multiply since Jan 16.  I thought they would have all the bugs and glitches sorted by then - lol!

The problem with my migration is instead of continuing where it left off it started from the beginning ... THREE times.

I now have three copies of my GENERAL board (largest board) and Multiply cannot migrate the remaining 21 smaller boards because the group is now at capacity.

I have been fighting to get the remaining boards migrated and now they are saying Sunday 1st March is the final day of migrations.

Unfortunately I used MSN Groups to back up seven years worth of studies and didn&#039;t migrate anywhere else since I thought I would have no problems migrating to Multiply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to migrate to Multiply since Jan 16.  I thought they would have all the bugs and glitches sorted by then &#8211; lol!</p>
<p>The problem with my migration is instead of continuing where it left off it started from the beginning &#8230; THREE times.</p>
<p>I now have three copies of my GENERAL board (largest board) and Multiply cannot migrate the remaining 21 smaller boards because the group is now at capacity.</p>
<p>I have been fighting to get the remaining boards migrated and now they are saying Sunday 1st March is the final day of migrations.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I used MSN Groups to back up seven years worth of studies and didn&#8217;t migrate anywhere else since I thought I would have no problems migrating to Multiply.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim A.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2634153</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for protesting, the site was eliminated.</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Dudley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2633683</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Dudley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re not pleased with Multiply, there are options - as long as you have a copy of your forum data.  See http://sdudley.com/MSNGroups</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not pleased with Multiply, there are options &#8211; as long as you have a copy of your forum data.  See <a href="http://sdudley.com/MSNGroups" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://sdudley.com/MSNGroups'>http://sdudley.com/MSNGroups</a></p>
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		<title>By: CraftyMatthew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2628863</link>
		<dc:creator>CraftyMatthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creating multiple IDs and applying to numerous groups with an ad for your website in your application is Spamming.  The people at BigTent had no intention of actively participating in any MSN groups, merely wanted to Spam the groups with ads for their service.  Rather slimy.


Why did you wait untiul there was less than a week left to migrate your groups to ask all these questions when it has been 4 months that we&#039;ve known about MSN closing groups?  It is too late to request migration to Yuku.  You&#039;d better hurry if you want to try migrating to Multiply and Aimoo as MSN groups close on Saturday.  You&#039;d better request the migrations today, and yes, you may migrate to both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating multiple IDs and applying to numerous groups with an ad for your website in your application is Spamming.  The people at BigTent had no intention of actively participating in any MSN groups, merely wanted to Spam the groups with ads for their service.  Rather slimy.</p>
<p>Why did you wait untiul there was less than a week left to migrate your groups to ask all these questions when it has been 4 months that we&#8217;ve known about MSN closing groups?  It is too late to request migration to Yuku.  You&#8217;d better hurry if you want to try migrating to Multiply and Aimoo as MSN groups close on Saturday.  You&#8217;d better request the migrations today, and yes, you may migrate to both.</p>
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		<title>By: QG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2625992</link>
		<dc:creator>QG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CM

Thanks for the message, I&#039;ll look into Yuku.  

Can I ask what you meant when you said bigtent are spammers?  I did get a message from Bigtent (on MSN) telling me about bigtent, which I found helpful.  Technically that one email was unsolicated, but still very helpful at the time. 

I made a group on bigtent to see what it was like.  I have not recieved anything since that I would call spam?

There group system seems too advanced meanly to get a few emails to send spam out to ... can you tell me more?

One more thing, can I migrate my group to many sites to see which is best.

Also, it is very important to me that the subject-matter is not made public (i.e. to web-crawling) do you know which sites  meet this requirement?

thanks

QG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CM</p>
<p>Thanks for the message, I&#8217;ll look into Yuku.  </p>
<p>Can I ask what you meant when you said bigtent are spammers?  I did get a message from Bigtent (on MSN) telling me about bigtent, which I found helpful.  Technically that one email was unsolicated, but still very helpful at the time. </p>
<p>I made a group on bigtent to see what it was like.  I have not recieved anything since that I would call spam?</p>
<p>There group system seems too advanced meanly to get a few emails to send spam out to &#8230; can you tell me more?</p>
<p>One more thing, can I migrate my group to many sites to see which is best.</p>
<p>Also, it is very important to me that the subject-matter is not made public (i.e. to web-crawling) do you know which sites  meet this requirement?</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>QG</p>
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		<title>By: Crafty Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2625623</link>
		<dc:creator>Crafty Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multiply can provide messed up migrations.  Lefora claims they can migrate, but they do not.  Aimoo migrations read only archives, but only partially igrates your group.

Although Yuku can not migrate custom pages and photo albums, they do provide easy instructions to save those to your computer.  They are the only servcie fully migrating message boards onto usable forums with all the message baords you had on MSN, all the messages intact, including the graphics.  they have migrated 2 of my groups very well, a third is nealry done, and the 4th will be done soon.

Bigtent is run by Spammers.  They have Spammed countless MSN groups, and hardly anyone from MSN has moved their groups there.  Most have moved to Yuku, Multiply, Aimoo, Proboards, Shutterfly, World Groups, Google and a few others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multiply can provide messed up migrations.  Lefora claims they can migrate, but they do not.  Aimoo migrations read only archives, but only partially igrates your group.</p>
<p>Although Yuku can not migrate custom pages and photo albums, they do provide easy instructions to save those to your computer.  They are the only servcie fully migrating message boards onto usable forums with all the message baords you had on MSN, all the messages intact, including the graphics.  they have migrated 2 of my groups very well, a third is nealry done, and the 4th will be done soon.</p>
<p>Bigtent is run by Spammers.  They have Spammed countless MSN groups, and hardly anyone from MSN has moved their groups there.  Most have moved to Yuku, Multiply, Aimoo, Proboards, Shutterfly, World Groups, Google and a few others.</p>
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		<title>By: QG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2617570</link>
		<dc:creator>QG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run a MSN group with over 500 members

BigTent looks very good, lots of admin options like customisable application forms (I’ve always wanted to asked members a few simple questions to help me approve their membership) and custom terms/rules which members must agree to before joining (i.e. “I promise to be good and not to post inappropriate material” etc) and even a fee charging subscription service (useful for some groups I suppose for collecting dibs).  Even with all these customisable options it is surprisingly easy to use and seems stable. 

Downside ~ so far Bigtent can’t import old messages from MSN (which Multiply can).  Also the photo sharing is quite limited (only upload one pic at a time!).  I would like to see emoticons option in the message boards too (they are there but only if you know the shortcut i.e. &quot;:-)&quot; results in a smiley face).  Also like Multiply the messages seems to have quite a lot of decorative white space, I’d like to see the messages in a more compact layout which suits long message threads. 

lefora.com (another forum) says that they can import MSN group message boards and members.  A quick look shows that lefora seems  to have a better forum page than Multiply, but I could not see a photo album page.  Also lefora seems to harbour a lot of advertisement space (lots of blinking areas enticing me to download this and that) which I didn&#039;t like much!!!  If Bigtent has advertising on it somewhere, it must be very discrete, as I can’t recall seeing any! 

For me BigTent is the winning ticket, but why-o-why can&#039;t they solve the problem of importing the MSN message boards and preferably the member list directly from MSN!  They have an option to allow you to invite members from a list (which you will need to make yourself in the form of a spread sheet etc) but not directly from MSN!!  BigTent I urge you to solve this before the February switch over, then you would win hands down!!!!!

The final problem with all these new groups (i.e. multiply, Bigtent, lefora) is that none of them seem to offer a customisable &quot;list&quot; option that was present in MSN.  I used to use lists to organise meetings, i.e. who is coming, when, and have they paid up etc! 

My quandary is this, my MSN group has over 500 members, 4000 messages and 100’s of photos and 10s of “list” pages … thus do I go with the less good (IMO) Multiply and preserve the message and photo archive, or do I start a new group on Bigtent and lose the message and photo archive?  Do I use both ~ multiply as a back up and Bigtent going forward?  I’m not happy with any of these choices!!!

Huff! 

QG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run a MSN group with over 500 members</p>
<p>BigTent looks very good, lots of admin options like customisable application forms (I’ve always wanted to asked members a few simple questions to help me approve their membership) and custom terms/rules which members must agree to before joining (i.e. “I promise to be good and not to post inappropriate material” etc) and even a fee charging subscription service (useful for some groups I suppose for collecting dibs).  Even with all these customisable options it is surprisingly easy to use and seems stable. </p>
<p>Downside ~ so far Bigtent can’t import old messages from MSN (which Multiply can).  Also the photo sharing is quite limited (only upload one pic at a time!).  I would like to see emoticons option in the message boards too (they are there but only if you know the shortcut i.e. &#8220;:-)&#8221; results in a smiley face).  Also like Multiply the messages seems to have quite a lot of decorative white space, I’d like to see the messages in a more compact layout which suits long message threads. </p>
<p>lefora.com (another forum) says that they can import MSN group message boards and members.  A quick look shows that lefora seems  to have a better forum page than Multiply, but I could not see a photo album page.  Also lefora seems to harbour a lot of advertisement space (lots of blinking areas enticing me to download this and that) which I didn&#8217;t like much!!!  If Bigtent has advertising on it somewhere, it must be very discrete, as I can’t recall seeing any! </p>
<p>For me BigTent is the winning ticket, but why-o-why can&#8217;t they solve the problem of importing the MSN message boards and preferably the member list directly from MSN!  They have an option to allow you to invite members from a list (which you will need to make yourself in the form of a spread sheet etc) but not directly from MSN!!  BigTent I urge you to solve this before the February switch over, then you would win hands down!!!!!</p>
<p>The final problem with all these new groups (i.e. multiply, Bigtent, lefora) is that none of them seem to offer a customisable &#8220;list&#8221; option that was present in MSN.  I used to use lists to organise meetings, i.e. who is coming, when, and have they paid up etc! </p>
<p>My quandary is this, my MSN group has over 500 members, 4000 messages and 100’s of photos and 10s of “list” pages … thus do I go with the less good (IMO) Multiply and preserve the message and photo archive, or do I start a new group on Bigtent and lose the message and photo archive?  Do I use both ~ multiply as a back up and Bigtent going forward?  I’m not happy with any of these choices!!!</p>
<p>Huff! </p>
<p>QG</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2603112</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BigTent Groups is a great home for MSN Groups. They have forums, photos, reviews, files, email capability, and member management. Here&#039;s a blog post about how to move your group over: http://blog.bigtent.com/2009/01/19/bigtent-welcomes-msn-groups-leaders/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigTent Groups is a great home for MSN Groups. They have forums, photos, reviews, files, email capability, and member management. Here&#8217;s a blog post about how to move your group over: <a href="http://blog.bigtent.com/2009/01/19/bigtent-welcomes-msn-groups-leaders/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.bigtent.com/2009/01/19/bigtent-welcomes-msn-groups-leaders/'>http://blog.big...groups-leaders/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ciara</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2601465</link>
		<dc:creator>ciara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey wdc xxx




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		<title>By: Crafty Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2600793</link>
		<dc:creator>Crafty Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MoveMSNGroups is a feature of Lefora.  They have no idea what they are doing, and Lefora is administrated by idiots.  Avoid at all costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MoveMSNGroups is a feature of Lefora.  They have no idea what they are doing, and Lefora is administrated by idiots.  Avoid at all costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Crafty Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2569158</link>
		<dc:creator>Crafty Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aimoo migrations are a waste of time.  They only migrate your group as a read only archive.  Even private groups are migrated as public archives, which are NOT deleted even if you close our new Aimoo group.  Discussions with more than 1000 messages will not open up, discussions do not migrate more than 16 messages.  Their bots do not fully read all of your pages, but only migrate some of them, and picture migrations have been poor as well.

I&#039;ve never heard of MoveMSNGroups.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aimoo migrations are a waste of time.  They only migrate your group as a read only archive.  Even private groups are migrated as public archives, which are NOT deleted even if you close our new Aimoo group.  Discussions with more than 1000 messages will not open up, discussions do not migrate more than 16 messages.  Their bots do not fully read all of your pages, but only migrate some of them, and picture migrations have been poor as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of MoveMSNGroups.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2565668</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also another service, http://movemsngroups.com that offers group exporting.

It&#039;s really a shame for Microsoft to drop the ball like this and leave thousands of people out in the cold.  I wonder if it really will shutdown come Feb 21st, or if they&#039;ll extend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also another service, <a href="http://movemsngroups.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://movemsngroups.com'>http://movemsngroups.com</a> that offers group exporting.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a shame for Microsoft to drop the ball like this and leave thousands of people out in the cold.  I wonder if it really will shutdown come Feb 21st, or if they&#8217;ll extend it.</p>
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		<title>By: ps abbrev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2548973</link>
		<dc:creator>ps abbrev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.aimoo.com/

Has migration bots - you need to make your forum &quot;open&quot; so they can run.  I haven&#039;t tried it yet and I haven&#039;t checked out all the alternatives here, but this one is the only one that offers to let you keep your forum history.  I help run a football forum and our posting history is important to us.

Multiply - at last report, only migrates 7 pages of your old msn forum.  Not good enough really.  And it doesn&#039;t have a proper forum that allows people to follow a conversation or quickly spot which is the current or active conversation.  You can get all blog posts to your &quot;inbox&quot; but I cannot find any tools to sort out the resulting chaos from the very active support forum.   There&#039;s no threading or grouping by conversation.  Sucks.  If I want a social network - I&#039;d use facebook or something else.

Oh and most deadly sin - multiply crawls.  Unless you&#039;re a uni student with an ultra fast connection - forget it.  Oh and twenty million clicks to get to bit you want, where as I used to do it with one click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.aimoo.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.aimoo.com/'>http://www.aimoo.com/</a></p>
<p>Has migration bots &#8211; you need to make your forum &#8220;open&#8221; so they can run.  I haven&#8217;t tried it yet and I haven&#8217;t checked out all the alternatives here, but this one is the only one that offers to let you keep your forum history.  I help run a football forum and our posting history is important to us.</p>
<p>Multiply &#8211; at last report, only migrates 7 pages of your old msn forum.  Not good enough really.  And it doesn&#8217;t have a proper forum that allows people to follow a conversation or quickly spot which is the current or active conversation.  You can get all blog posts to your &#8220;inbox&#8221; but I cannot find any tools to sort out the resulting chaos from the very active support forum.   There&#8217;s no threading or grouping by conversation.  Sucks.  If I want a social network &#8211; I&#8217;d use facebook or something else.</p>
<p>Oh and most deadly sin &#8211; multiply crawls.  Unless you&#8217;re a uni student with an ultra fast connection &#8211; forget it.  Oh and twenty million clicks to get to bit you want, where as I used to do it with one click.</p>
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		<title>By: JT Snow</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2533870</link>
		<dc:creator>JT Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also heard other MSN Groups are migrating their groups over to BlastGroups (http://www.blastgroups.com) .

It&#039;s a platform that lets you create your own free group website. While they don&#039;t have a migration tool, it&#039;s very easy to create a group site and invite your existing group members.  

You can try it out here: 

http://www.blastgroups.com/create_group_website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also heard other MSN Groups are migrating their groups over to BlastGroups (<a href="http://www.blastgroups.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.blastgroups.com'>http://www.blastgroups.com</a>) .</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a platform that lets you create your own free group website. While they don&#8217;t have a migration tool, it&#8217;s very easy to create a group site and invite your existing group members.  </p>
<p>You can try it out here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.blastgroups.com/create_group_website" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.blastgroups.com/create_group_website'>http://www.blas...e_group_website</a></p>
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		<title>By: Windows Live Wave 3 revealed with a dash of social networking &#124; Microsoft News Tracker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2533286</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Live Wave 3 revealed with a dash of social networking &#124; Microsoft News Tracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Windows Live Groups user forums were launched as a replacement for the old MSN Groups which got sold off to Multiply. Officially, Groups is a &quot;a place for groups to collaborate online, includes a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Windows Live Groups user forums were launched as a replacement for the old MSN Groups which got sold off to Multiply. Officially, Groups is a &quot;a place for groups to collaborate online, includes a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2532305</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belinda .... may I add another free phpbb based forum host for those msn groups looking for a message board based group.  The advertising is acceptable, no pop up windows or flashing adds.  Has alot of forum features found in the admin control panel.  Not hard to learn but have to start design layout of front page from scratch.  All previous msn threads will be lost.  As with other free forum hosts - no photo storage area .... have to use photobucket or similar storage link area.

http://www.forumarena.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belinda &#8230;. may I add another free phpbb based forum host for those msn groups looking for a message board based group.  The advertising is acceptable, no pop up windows or flashing adds.  Has alot of forum features found in the admin control panel.  Not hard to learn but have to start design layout of front page from scratch.  All previous msn threads will be lost.  As with other free forum hosts &#8211; no photo storage area &#8230;. have to use photobucket or similar storage link area.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forumarena.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.forumarena.com/'>http://www.forumarena.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft madness: kill MSN Groups : Internet Business</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft madness: kill MSN Groups : Internet Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in their wisdom, have decided to shut down their long-standing MSN Groups feature, and are asking users to move their groups to Multiply.com before February 9th, when MSN Groups [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in their wisdom, have decided to shut down their long-standing MSN Groups feature, and are asking users to move their groups to Multiply.com before February 9th, when MSN Groups [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Randow</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2516485</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Randow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OnlineGroups.Net invites MSN Groups Managers to evaluate our online groups sites, as a destination for migrating MSN Groups. We provide good old-fashioned email groups with a web forum interface. They support file-sharing, photo galleries and chat. Public groups are free with unlimited members, posts and storage, and you can have multiple groups on a free site with no ads.
  http://blog.onlinegroups.net/2008/10/28/onlinegroupsnet-welcomes-msn-group-managers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OnlineGroups.Net invites MSN Groups Managers to evaluate our online groups sites, as a destination for migrating MSN Groups. We provide good old-fashioned email groups with a web forum interface. They support file-sharing, photo galleries and chat. Public groups are free with unlimited members, posts and storage, and you can have multiple groups on a free site with no ads.<br />
  <a href="http://blog.onlinegroups.net/2008/10/28/onlinegroupsnet-welcomes-msn-group-managers/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.onlinegroups.net/2008/10/28/onlinegroupsnet-welcomes-msn-group-managers/'>http://blog.onl...group-managers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Belinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

Simply brilliant platform in which to disccuss a single topic, &quot;The recent anouncement to close MSN groups&quot;. 

BUT..... very black and white, If I want black and white, I&#039;ll read a good book.

I&#039;ve been with MSN myself since 2002, first as a chatter then a chat room host in MSN Chats, then as a Group moderator and then a Group owner, with MSN groups. I&#039;m now an owner of several groups that cover a variety of topics. Through ownership I discovered a creative flair and used that to create interesting pages and topic threads. With the click of a mouse you could easily acess and comment on any board or begin a thread of your own. 

I also grew socialy from a lost single soul to being married. I also attributed this to MSN. 

I met and married another chat host in 2003 at a double wedding of 4 chatters from 3 different states of Australia, both couples will notch up 6 happy years next April. We even married at a historic water pumping station that provided town water to the local town aptly named Walka Water Works [WWW] for short. 

I taught myself HTML &amp; now maintain a website. I owe it all to MSN chats &amp; groups. We used MSN groups as an interactive platform to promote our personal website.

I will really miss the social network I had with friends &amp; those I&#039;ve met personaly and kept in touch with through these various groups. Not all my contacts want to join get another network. They are already complaining about having too many accounts with various networks: Live Spaces, Facebook, Google, Yahoo, and a multitude of other networks each with it&#039;s own purpose. 

The only thing I can see MSN has really achieved after all these years is spread us all out.... I thought communities were about bringing people together?

I refer back to when &quot;Chats&quot; closed it was as if a bomb had hit, people who visited more than one chat room had to join various chat servers to stay in touch with the various chat groups they belonged to. Yet others lost contact because of computer crashes with all the new software that was need to chat in the various servers, if they were not in your IM they became lost souls, I&#039;m hope &amp; pray that some of those lost souls found new friends. It&#039;s not easy to find old friends back when their personal ID&#039;s &amp; nick names changed with each network, because your usual name was already taken....

What will happen with our MSN groups now.... They will be spread further afield

Great Community Spirt Microsoft !!!

There have been some great comments above, I&#039;ve clicked a few group suggestion links  and I&#039;m still looking for that one that will be closest to what we are leaving behind... It&#039;s wonderful to have a place to air our opinions... If only someone would hear them. 

Opinions on migration

I migrated one of my smaller groups (3 pages and a couple of boards and a  6 album gallery) to Multiply to test out the process. The transistion went smoothly, took about 15 minutes, but when I logged into Multiply, I had to create an new  a personal account before logging into my group. An email was sent out to all the members to say the group had moved and to apply for membership... I hadn&#039;t even sorted my mess out and there were members knocking on the door to get in.

The entire msn group message threads were dumped in a blog thread, I switched to edit mode and was able to capture HTML coding from some of the posts to edit my Multiply welcome board but anything that was linked to  other boards became a broken link and had to be scraped. 

As all the messages from various boards were all in one complete blog thread... and not being familiar enough with Multiplys editing process to know how to move things. My group at multiply is a bit of a mess. Keep in mind it is only a small group.... I wonder how bigger groups will fair. Ok I know there are help forums but it&#039;s the time needed to rework the group ready to accept members and right in this busy time of the year...

****I&#039;d be interested to know how other&#039;s have coped with their merges.

I might leave some links of possible networks to try out. I have tested them and none offer anything as good as MSN. but it&#039;s a starting point.

Please what is the link to world groups so I might take a look there?

NETWORKS for possible forums &amp; groups

[listed below] 

www.runboard.com
www.yuku.com
http://groups.google.com/
www.ning.com
www.delphiforums.com

Belinda 

:Last one out turn the lights off please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>Simply brilliant platform in which to disccuss a single topic, &#8220;The recent anouncement to close MSN groups&#8221;. </p>
<p>BUT&#8230;.. very black and white, If I want black and white, I&#8217;ll read a good book.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been with MSN myself since 2002, first as a chatter then a chat room host in MSN Chats, then as a Group moderator and then a Group owner, with MSN groups. I&#8217;m now an owner of several groups that cover a variety of topics. Through ownership I discovered a creative flair and used that to create interesting pages and topic threads. With the click of a mouse you could easily acess and comment on any board or begin a thread of your own. </p>
<p>I also grew socialy from a lost single soul to being married. I also attributed this to MSN. </p>
<p>I met and married another chat host in 2003 at a double wedding of 4 chatters from 3 different states of Australia, both couples will notch up 6 happy years next April. We even married at a historic water pumping station that provided town water to the local town aptly named Walka Water Works [WWW] for short. </p>
<p>I taught myself HTML &amp; now maintain a website. I owe it all to MSN chats &amp; groups. We used MSN groups as an interactive platform to promote our personal website.</p>
<p>I will really miss the social network I had with friends &amp; those I&#8217;ve met personaly and kept in touch with through these various groups. Not all my contacts want to join get another network. They are already complaining about having too many accounts with various networks: Live Spaces, Facebook, Google, Yahoo, and a multitude of other networks each with it&#8217;s own purpose. </p>
<p>The only thing I can see MSN has really achieved after all these years is spread us all out&#8230;. I thought communities were about bringing people together?</p>
<p>I refer back to when &#8220;Chats&#8221; closed it was as if a bomb had hit, people who visited more than one chat room had to join various chat servers to stay in touch with the various chat groups they belonged to. Yet others lost contact because of computer crashes with all the new software that was need to chat in the various servers, if they were not in your IM they became lost souls, I&#8217;m hope &amp; pray that some of those lost souls found new friends. It&#8217;s not easy to find old friends back when their personal ID&#8217;s &amp; nick names changed with each network, because your usual name was already taken&#8230;.</p>
<p>What will happen with our MSN groups now&#8230;. They will be spread further afield</p>
<p>Great Community Spirt Microsoft !!!</p>
<p>There have been some great comments above, I&#8217;ve clicked a few group suggestion links  and I&#8217;m still looking for that one that will be closest to what we are leaving behind&#8230; It&#8217;s wonderful to have a place to air our opinions&#8230; If only someone would hear them. </p>
<p>Opinions on migration</p>
<p>I migrated one of my smaller groups (3 pages and a couple of boards and a  6 album gallery) to Multiply to test out the process. The transistion went smoothly, took about 15 minutes, but when I logged into Multiply, I had to create an new  a personal account before logging into my group. An email was sent out to all the members to say the group had moved and to apply for membership&#8230; I hadn&#8217;t even sorted my mess out and there were members knocking on the door to get in.</p>
<p>The entire msn group message threads were dumped in a blog thread, I switched to edit mode and was able to capture HTML coding from some of the posts to edit my Multiply welcome board but anything that was linked to  other boards became a broken link and had to be scraped. </p>
<p>As all the messages from various boards were all in one complete blog thread&#8230; and not being familiar enough with Multiplys editing process to know how to move things. My group at multiply is a bit of a mess. Keep in mind it is only a small group&#8230;. I wonder how bigger groups will fair. Ok I know there are help forums but it&#8217;s the time needed to rework the group ready to accept members and right in this busy time of the year&#8230;</p>
<p>****I&#8217;d be interested to know how other&#8217;s have coped with their merges.</p>
<p>I might leave some links of possible networks to try out. I have tested them and none offer anything as good as MSN. but it&#8217;s a starting point.</p>
<p>Please what is the link to world groups so I might take a look there?</p>
<p>NETWORKS for possible forums &amp; groups</p>
<p>[listed below] </p>
<p><a href="http://www.runboard.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.runboard.com'>http://www.runboard.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.yuku.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.yuku.com'>http://www.yuku.com</a><br />
<a href="http://groups.google.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://groups.google.com/'>http://groups.google.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ning.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.ning.com'>http://www.ning.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.delphiforums.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.delphiforums.com'>http://www.delphiforums.com</a></p>
<p>Belinda </p>
<p>:Last one out turn the lights off please</p>
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		<title>By: Crafty Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crafty Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multiply is horrible.  The migration tool is defective.  MSN&#039;s biggest troll is Support at Multiply, go figure?  I have 5 MSN Groups, and while I&#039;m still researching other services for groups, the site MSN migrated adult groups to, World Groups, is the closest to MSN in setup, and has some of the features of Multiply and Yahoo, all rolled into one, and so far, from what I&#039;ve been able to check out, is easy to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multiply is horrible.  The migration tool is defective.  MSN&#8217;s biggest troll is Support at Multiply, go figure?  I have 5 MSN Groups, and while I&#8217;m still researching other services for groups, the site MSN migrated adult groups to, World Groups, is the closest to MSN in setup, and has some of the features of Multiply and Yahoo, all rolled into one, and so far, from what I&#8217;ve been able to check out, is easy to use.</p>
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		<title>By: beeurd</title>
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		<dc:creator>beeurd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offence, but what&#039;s the point of creating an MSN Group to protest against MSN Groups being deleted?

However, I do love MSN Groups myself, and am struggling to find another site like it to move to. Having checked out Multiply, we have found it to be wholly inadequate for the needs of our group.

Check out http://www.ning.com/ though; I was quite impressed, although it still lacks enough to be unsuitable for our group. We may have to move onto message board software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offence, but what&#8217;s the point of creating an MSN Group to protest against MSN Groups being deleted?</p>
<p>However, I do love MSN Groups myself, and am struggling to find another site like it to move to. Having checked out Multiply, we have found it to be wholly inadequate for the needs of our group.</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.ning.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.ning.com/'>http://www.ning.com/</a> though; I was quite impressed, although it still lacks enough to be unsuitable for our group. We may have to move onto message board software.</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Live Groups kommen im November - MSN Groups werden abgeschoben &#171; blogSquad</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/15/confirmed-microsoft-gives-up-on-msn-groups-hands-it-off-to-multiply/comment-page-1/#comment-2512454</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Live Groups kommen im November - MSN Groups werden abgeschoben &#171; blogSquad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] namens Multiply transferieren, den Microsoft als neuen &#8220;Partner&#8221; anpreist (TechCrunch, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Join this site and show MSN Groups that we&#039;re protesting.
http://groups.msn.com/NoImmigration 

Spread the word!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join this site and show MSN Groups that we&#8217;re protesting.<br />
<a href="http://groups.msn.com/NoImmigration" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://groups.msn.com/NoImmigration'>http://groups.m...m/NoImmigration</a> </p>
<p>Spread the word!</p>
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