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		<title>By: Blame the VCs : The Drama 2.0 Show</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2512423</link>
		<dc:creator>Blame the VCs : The Drama 2.0 Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with an impressive portfolio that includes stakes in Web 2.0 powerhouses like Seesmic and DanceJam, explained why the VCs aren&#8217;t to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MYBlogLog &#187; Ignoring Downturns Is Unhealthy And Dangerous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2510272</link>
		<dc:creator>MYBlogLog &#187; Ignoring Downturns Is Unhealthy And Dangerous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here we go again. As soon as people get tired of blaming the venture capitalists for the downturn and layoffs, they start to point the finger at bloggers and journalists who write [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ignoring Downturns Is Unhealthy And Dangerous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2510114</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignoring Downturns Is Unhealthy And Dangerous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here we go again. As soon as people get tired of blaming the venture capitalists for the downturn and layoffs, they start to point the finger at bloggers and journalists who write [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Some Of These Layoffs Aren&#8217;t Really Layoffs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2505822</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Of These Layoffs Aren&#8217;t Really Layoffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this now? Based on the CEOs I&#8217;ve spoken with, it isn&#8217;t just about cutting costs in preparation for a downturn. Some CEOs see this as a once-in-a-startup opportunity to get rid of the deadwood in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this now? Based on the CEOs I&#8217;ve spoken with, it isn&#8217;t just about cutting costs in preparation for a downturn. Some CEOs see this as a once-in-a-startup opportunity to get rid of the deadwood in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2502492</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. It&#039;s not all doom and gloom out there. The rules of the game have not changed.  Maybe this video is an apt rejoinder.
http://sanjaydattatri.blogspot.com/2008/10/its-not-all-doom-and-gloom-out-there.html
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQCyBAixEc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. It&#8217;s not all doom and gloom out there. The rules of the game have not changed.  Maybe this video is an apt rejoinder.<br />
<a href="http://sanjaydattatri.blogspot.com/2008/10/its-not-all-doom-and-gloom-out-there.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://sanjaydattatri.blogspot.com/2008/10/its-not-all-doom-and-gloom-out-there.html'>http://sanjayda...-out-there.html</a><br />
<a href="http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQCyBAixEc" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQCyBAixEc'>http://in.youtu...h?v=0oQCyBAixEc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pavan K</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2501765</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly does seem like there is a big web 2.0 bubble which we all need to be concerned about.  But that that makes it all the more interesting.  Everyone has been building in a hope that &quot;they will [then] come&quot;.  Just like during the bust, but this time everyone was thinking it is possible to monetize on network effects, on the long tail, by default.

Instead, we all have to think about offering the maximum value to our customers.  If the customer benefits, we all benefit in the long term.  Nobody can sit in their bubble safely, because it will be prodded at profusely, for some time to come.

Fair enough we cannot blame the VC&#039;s.  We cannot blame the Banks, nor the Government(s).  We just have to bare the brunt and innovate.  Difficult when there is no money, but apparently the best startups are those that rise through a recession.  Makes sense when being down and out triggers creativity...

If you believe in your product, have customers that validate your plan, and that represent your mass markets - then the lights are still green if you want them to be.  If you are scared, then improve your plans, get a job, or even better blow your savings in McDonalds or Vegas with Jen.  

Ps @ Jen - Fast Food Chains will not revive the economy (or your health), nor will Vegas, but passion and innovation just might, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly does seem like there is a big web 2.0 bubble which we all need to be concerned about.  But that that makes it all the more interesting.  Everyone has been building in a hope that &#8220;they will [then] come&#8221;.  Just like during the bust, but this time everyone was thinking it is possible to monetize on network effects, on the long tail, by default.</p>
<p>Instead, we all have to think about offering the maximum value to our customers.  If the customer benefits, we all benefit in the long term.  Nobody can sit in their bubble safely, because it will be prodded at profusely, for some time to come.</p>
<p>Fair enough we cannot blame the VC&#8217;s.  We cannot blame the Banks, nor the Government(s).  We just have to bare the brunt and innovate.  Difficult when there is no money, but apparently the best startups are those that rise through a recession.  Makes sense when being down and out triggers creativity&#8230;</p>
<p>If you believe in your product, have customers that validate your plan, and that represent your mass markets &#8211; then the lights are still green if you want them to be.  If you are scared, then improve your plans, get a job, or even better blow your savings in McDonalds or Vegas with Jen.  </p>
<p>Ps @ Jen &#8211; Fast Food Chains will not revive the economy (or your health), nor will Vegas, but passion and innovation just might, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Pavan K</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2501705</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what?</description>
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		<title>By: The Prickly Prince From Microsoft Strikes Again &#124; Holly Swanson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2501170</link>
		<dc:creator>The Prickly Prince From Microsoft Strikes Again &#124; Holly Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and products, focusing as much as possible on the positive, and trying to defocus the mobs from blaming the venture capitalists for what&#8217;s happening in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jen Mallery</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2500899</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Mallery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every side of the argument has their valid points ... 

But consider this: If every company AND each of us individually conserved money, the economy will for-sure continue to go down in the dumps and we all would be jobless. When that happens we&#039;re going to be blaming ourselves for telling everyone to conserve.

I have to agree that companies and startups have to somewhat cut-down on costs to survive ... but the rest of us in our personal lives have to go out there and spend money on stuff (e.g. Vegas, new car, clothes, fast food, etc.) to get this economy going again.

So who wants to go to Vegas?    =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every side of the argument has their valid points &#8230; </p>
<p>But consider this: If every company AND each of us individually conserved money, the economy will for-sure continue to go down in the dumps and we all would be jobless. When that happens we&#8217;re going to be blaming ourselves for telling everyone to conserve.</p>
<p>I have to agree that companies and startups have to somewhat cut-down on costs to survive &#8230; but the rest of us in our personal lives have to go out there and spend money on stuff (e.g. Vegas, new car, clothes, fast food, etc.) to get this economy going again.</p>
<p>So who wants to go to Vegas?    =)</p>
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		<title>By: A Very Tough Day &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2500577</link>
		<dc:creator>A Very Tough Day &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But We Have to Change Change is painful, but necessary. Late in Charles Darwin&#8217;s life, when he was busy rejecting the application of his principles to social policy, he explained that &#8220;it is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent… it is the one that is the most adaptable to change.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But We Have to Change Change is painful, but necessary. Late in Charles Darwin&#8217;s life, when he was busy rejecting the application of his principles to social policy, he explained that &#8220;it is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent… it is the one that is the most adaptable to change.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2500298</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doron - Amen! Hopefully the Entrepreneurs like you and I will be able to take some of these lemons and make lemonade

@ MA - While VC&#039;s are certainly not to blame for the downturn they do need to take some responsibility for contributing to it&#039;s future impact. Investing in a company that doesn&#039;t have a plan for generating revenue-- or maybe i should say-- investing in MULTIPLE companies without a plan, in my opinion, is just plain irresponsible. 

Furthermore, this type of funding trend has served only to breed a type of entrepreneur who focuses on the wrong components in building his/her organization. And now as a result, is sadly breeding an organization that is focused only on the &quot;Cash is King&quot; mantra being echoed in the presentations and meetings around the startup community. 

In my experience, the majority of the smart and talented business people I know already understand that yes, Cash IS King. But those same people also know that NOTHING significant happens in business until a sale is made. 

This past week we have seen VC after VC loudly express financial prudence to their portfolios. But i have to wonder, why there wasn&#039;t this much vocalization about developing a plan for revenue? And if there was, why wasn&#039;t it as headline prominent as we are now seeing with current landscape? Was there any doubt inside these firms that eventually a business without a model for sales wouldn&#039;t end up destined for the dead-pool? 

At what point do we hold the free-spending VC&#039;s of the world accountable for contributing to technologies share of mass layoffs, unpaid debts and increase of vacant offices as we move further into this cycle? At some point there has to a be a logical realization that while these risk taker VC&#039;s may not have &quot;caused&quot; any of the immediate economic issues we see -- they sure as shit will be a part of it&#039;s end results.  

So yea Mike,  you may be able to technically say that these arguments are irrational in a cause scenario (and i would agree in some respects). But i don&#039;t think you can deny that the rather large elephant in the room, that no one wants to address, is the misguided priorities behind many of these investments. 

Certainly we all make mistakes and VC&#039;s are no different. But as Einstein once said; 

&quot; The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over while expecting different results.&quot; 

Maybe this should be the new slide (right before the Get Real or Go Home statement) in their presentations. 

Cheers,
ak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doron &#8211; Amen! Hopefully the Entrepreneurs like you and I will be able to take some of these lemons and make lemonade</p>
<p>@ MA &#8211; While VC&#8217;s are certainly not to blame for the downturn they do need to take some responsibility for contributing to it&#8217;s future impact. Investing in a company that doesn&#8217;t have a plan for generating revenue&#8211; or maybe i should say&#8211; investing in MULTIPLE companies without a plan, in my opinion, is just plain irresponsible. </p>
<p>Furthermore, this type of funding trend has served only to breed a type of entrepreneur who focuses on the wrong components in building his/her organization. And now as a result, is sadly breeding an organization that is focused only on the &#8220;Cash is King&#8221; mantra being echoed in the presentations and meetings around the startup community. </p>
<p>In my experience, the majority of the smart and talented business people I know already understand that yes, Cash IS King. But those same people also know that NOTHING significant happens in business until a sale is made. </p>
<p>This past week we have seen VC after VC loudly express financial prudence to their portfolios. But i have to wonder, why there wasn&#8217;t this much vocalization about developing a plan for revenue? And if there was, why wasn&#8217;t it as headline prominent as we are now seeing with current landscape? Was there any doubt inside these firms that eventually a business without a model for sales wouldn&#8217;t end up destined for the dead-pool? </p>
<p>At what point do we hold the free-spending VC&#8217;s of the world accountable for contributing to technologies share of mass layoffs, unpaid debts and increase of vacant offices as we move further into this cycle? At some point there has to a be a logical realization that while these risk taker VC&#8217;s may not have &#8220;caused&#8221; any of the immediate economic issues we see &#8212; they sure as shit will be a part of it&#8217;s end results.  </p>
<p>So yea Mike,  you may be able to technically say that these arguments are irrational in a cause scenario (and i would agree in some respects). But i don&#8217;t think you can deny that the rather large elephant in the room, that no one wants to address, is the misguided priorities behind many of these investments. </p>
<p>Certainly we all make mistakes and VC&#8217;s are no different. But as Einstein once said; </p>
<p>&#8221; The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over while expecting different results.&#8221; </p>
<p>Maybe this should be the new slide (right before the Get Real or Go Home statement) in their presentations. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
ak</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2500207</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vacuuming isn&#039;t prevalent in Europe. Instead most of them use hoovering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vacuuming isn&#8217;t prevalent in Europe. Instead most of them use hoovering.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2499969</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is simple!

VC encouraged companies to burn money to hot up the market. When the market is cooling down, getting cold and even freezing, companies should get themselves warm only enough to survive.

VC was right encouraging burning money, and is correct pushing companies preserving money.

You simple can not beat the climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is simple!</p>
<p>VC encouraged companies to burn money to hot up the market. When the market is cooling down, getting cold and even freezing, companies should get themselves warm only enough to survive.</p>
<p>VC was right encouraging burning money, and is correct pushing companies preserving money.</p>
<p>You simple can not beat the climate.</p>
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		<title>By: Esfandiar</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-2/#comment-2499916</link>
		<dc:creator>Esfandiar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad economic times usually means higer likelihood of lower revenues than expected -- specially for Ad based revenue models.  That in turn means shorter time to refinancing.  That means higher the likelihood that VC&#039;s have to reinvest in their portfolio companies sooner -- just to keep afloat.  

Telling a startup to be frugal, means please don&#039;t all come back right away asking for more money.

http://downturnandstartups.blogspot.com/

Cheers, E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad economic times usually means higer likelihood of lower revenues than expected &#8212; specially for Ad based revenue models.  That in turn means shorter time to refinancing.  That means higher the likelihood that VC&#8217;s have to reinvest in their portfolio companies sooner &#8212; just to keep afloat.  </p>
<p>Telling a startup to be frugal, means please don&#8217;t all come back right away asking for more money.</p>
<p><a href="http://downturnandstartups.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://downturnandstartups.blogspot.com/'>http://downturn...s.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Cheers, E</p>
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		<title>By: suri</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499893</link>
		<dc:creator>suri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead on! This is what makes Silicon Valley what it is.
For all the detractors of this philosophy (summed up in this article) is there another model that would have created a silicon valley? What would that be? Why has it not happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead on! This is what makes Silicon Valley what it is.<br />
For all the detractors of this philosophy (summed up in this article) is there another model that would have created a silicon valley? What would that be? Why has it not happened?</p>
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		<title>By: techNmore.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499796</link>
		<dc:creator>techNmore.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reserve cash is the #1 priority for anyone right now whether business or personal.  It is what makes a company truly healthy or not.  To continue to borrow and have a balance sheet with savings on paper and not physically in the bank is just bad business.

http://www.techNmore.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reserve cash is the #1 priority for anyone right now whether business or personal.  It is what makes a company truly healthy or not.  To continue to borrow and have a balance sheet with savings on paper and not physically in the bank is just bad business.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techNmore.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techNmore.com'>http://www.techNmore.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evan Kuo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499717</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Kuo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent post!</description>
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		<title>By: roman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499685</link>
		<dc:creator>roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually i was an intern... and we were all paid :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually i was an intern&#8230; and we were all paid <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: broadstuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>broadstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Don&#039;t Panic!...&lt;/strong&gt;

Don&#039;t Panic (Courtesy warchild13.com)

Gabe Rivera used to say that Weekends on Techmeme were the time when &quot;bitchmemes&quot; came to the top - and this weekend its been Panic  Bitchmemes galore, mainly aimed at those who dared suggest that the VC&#039;s p...</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t Panic (Courtesy warchild13.com)</p>
<p>Gabe Rivera used to say that Weekends on Techmeme were the time when &#8220;bitchmemes&#8221; came to the top &#8211; and this weekend its been Panic  Bitchmemes galore, mainly aimed at those who dared suggest that the VC&#8217;s p&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JQP</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499582</link>
		<dc:creator>JQP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Me too&quot; blog-wanking-opining around news that has already happened, or been reported upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Me too&#8221; blog-wanking-opining around news that has already happened, or been reported upon.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Bubble</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499559</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Bubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=23230#comment-2499559</guid>
		<description>For those techies out there, the US economy has turned severely downwards and dragged down the entire world economic systems. Depression 2.0 will be inevitable if the US govt cannot come up with the right policies to combat the frozen credit situation. If you think startups can spend the same as before, keep dreaming! For those VCs, I have said before in TC that I was amazed that &quot;me-too&quot; with no-business-model kept getting funded, especially in the social networking areas. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those techies out there, the US economy has turned severely downwards and dragged down the entire world economic systems. Depression 2.0 will be inevitable if the US govt cannot come up with the right policies to combat the frozen credit situation. If you think startups can spend the same as before, keep dreaming! For those VCs, I have said before in TC that I was amazed that &#8220;me-too&#8221; with no-business-model kept getting funded, especially in the social networking areas. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.</p>
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		<title>By: Figmentations &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conventional Wisdom Isn&#8217;t Always Right (or Wrong)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499527</link>
		<dc:creator>Figmentations &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Conventional Wisdom Isn&#8217;t Always Right (or Wrong)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of this is the difference in the &#8220;rules of the game&#8221; that hedge fund managers or venture capitalists play under to make money versus what the rules that the general public is expected [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of this is the difference in the &#8220;rules of the game&#8221; that hedge fund managers or venture capitalists play under to make money versus what the rules that the general public is expected [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Prickly Prince From Microsoft Strikes Again</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499505</link>
		<dc:creator>The Prickly Prince From Microsoft Strikes Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and products, focusing as much as possible on the positive, and trying to defocus the mobs from blaming the venture capitalists for what&#8217;s happening in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and products, focusing as much as possible on the positive, and trying to defocus the mobs from blaming the venture capitalists for what&#8217;s happening in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Engago Team</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499481</link>
		<dc:creator>Engago Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Perfect Storm ahead 
Or
The Great Opportunities?
http://bit.ly/2jra6s
During recession people and companies need to revisit their decions they previously took for normal.
Example Up to 2000 Siebel was hot, but afterwards SalesForce took the lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Perfect Storm ahead<br />
Or<br />
The Great Opportunities?<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/2jra6s" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://bit.ly/2jra6s'>http://bit.ly/2jra6s</a><br />
During recession people and companies need to revisit their decions they previously took for normal.<br />
Example Up to 2000 Siebel was hot, but afterwards SalesForce took the lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Giovanni</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/11/profit-maximization-v-survival-maximization/comment-page-1/#comment-2499427</link>
		<dc:creator>Giovanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, in other words you are just saying that this is the end of the web 2.0, at least of the social-network one, and in general of all those web 2.0 services relying on fremium/advertising model, including some the most successful products of the last years (what about Facebook, you would say that it has a strong business model?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, in other words you are just saying that this is the end of the web 2.0, at least of the social-network one, and in general of all those web 2.0 services relying on fremium/advertising model, including some the most successful products of the last years (what about Facebook, you would say that it has a strong business model?)</p>
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